Next 4 games
 

@ Indianapolis Colts - Sun, 10/10
@ Houston Texans - Sun, 10/17
Jacksonville Jaguars - Sun, 10/24
Buffalo Bills - Sun, 10/31

I figured that since we're in a bye, sitting at 3-0, I figured it wouldn't hurt to think about what is the possibility of how many wins the Chiefs can obtain within the next 4 games on the schedule.

Of the next 4 games on the schedule, how many wins do you think the Chiefs can obtain, and against who, and why?

Poll forthcoming.

2 for sure. I know we'll lose to Houston...but I cant help but think there's a chance of an upset in Indy. Their run defense is beyond terrible and we are the #1 rushing team.

I'm going to go with 2 but Indy is a toss up.

And poll fail. Should have made it public.

Same line of thinking, but with the bye week and what appears to be very solid coaching this year, I think we get the Colts.

I don't really understand why most people think the Texans are that good. I think they are beatable. I'm more worried about our own division. Division games seem to always be tight games, and seem to count more. I could see us being 5 and 0 and possibly lose to one of the lowly desperate teams.

The kool-aid is strong with this one...

hehehe

I say 2-2. Losing in Indy and Houston, but playing well.

It's like some people are still living in week 1, even though Manning still threw for like 450 yards and 3 TDs. Yeah, the Texans are who they really need to worry about. The Colts? Eh...

LMAO

I'd be happy with 2 wins from that group... I don't have a lot of hope for the road games, but wouldn't be completely surprised if we won one of the road games and one of the home games. Winning 3 of the next 4 would be a big surprise.

I say we split Indy and Houston, and win the other 2.

I am going 3 wins and 1 loss..

Why is everyone so scared of Houston?

nope, we don't lose to Denver

I think we beat the Colts and then celebrate too hard and flop against the Texans.
Then we lose against Jacksonville (because there is always a game the chiefs SHOULD win on paper but don't).
Then win against Buffalo because they are so awful.

I agree I just don't see us being quote good enough to get a win AT houston or Indy. One of the games at least will be close though.

I believe we'll win 2. Honestly Houston presents a bigger threat than Indy IMO. Indy doesn't have that great of a rushing game and they are weak against the run. This bodes much easier for us than the Houston game. Houston has a very balanced rushing and passing attack. And their front seven is very talented. We have a better chance at upset in Indy but I don't know if we'll pull it off. So I'll stick with my two wins over Jax and Buffalo.

Houston just got absolutely trounced by Dallas last weekend.

I went with 2 wins...I'm thinking they'll get a win at Houston but will lay an egg against either Jax or Buffalo, not sure which one though...I'll say Buffalo for now

KC will go 4-0 because our opps haven't figure out what style we'll be bringing and how to counter-act it: Will the Chiefs "O" do multiple 3-and-outs and play it close to the vest, or will they be balls to the wall?

After that short stretch, KC will go 8-1 -- their only loss being to the Titans at home on December 26 due to it being a trap game combined with our players losing a bit of their edge/focus due to the Kwanzah/Hanakkuh/Christmas holiday period.

I think if we are as good as the media is saying then we'll go 3-1 winning at either Indy or Houston but not both and we'll win the two gimmes at Arrowhead.

If we're a pretender then we'll go 1-3.

The fact is that coaching has been a huge part of our success and our coaches can game plan . We have talent and speed. We're healthy. Cassel is our ONLY question mark right now. Will he get carried away throwing int's ? I don't think Haley will allow that to happen.

if we upset Indy...it would be because of the pass, not the run. They'll contain our run enough...

I mean...people keep forgetting...we're great at getting to 3rd and short via the running game...but we can't convert them to save our lives...

our best shot at beating Indy would be to convert 50% of our 3rd downs...

and will that happen?

hell no

Indy 28
KC 13

2

For some reason I believe we will go 2-2, but we will steal a game between the Colts and Texans then drop one at home between the Jags or Bills. But WTF do I know I predicted a 6-10 season this year.

I am just enjoying the ride so far .......

We could still go 6-10









Not Really. McDaniels coaches the Broncos.

kinda.

1 or 2

loss @colts
loss @texans
might beat jacksonville
should beat Buffalo

i expect us to go into the Buffalo game 3-3 .. but hell, with 2 weeks to prepare for the Colts game maybe we pull a Chargers type game out of our butts. :)

We win 3

I'm going to be mindlessly foolishly optimistic and say that we steal one from either Indy or Houston. So I vote 3. What the hell.

3-1...we'll get either the Indy or Houston game and we are NOT losing at home to Buffalo or Jax, it ain't happening.

Realistic: 2-2
Optimistic: 3-1

I remember the last time Maurice Bitch-Name played against us, doing his little ATM dance against the goal post. I hope Smith rips his nuts off and throws them into the club level.

Realistic: 2-2
Optimistic: 3-1

6-0 and FAIL much?
How's that drooling fool of HC of yours doing lately?

This.
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Yeah well Houston absolutely RAPED Indy in week 1

They'll contain the run? They're 28th in the league in rush defense. They allow 150 yards per game.

I don't know what world you're living on, but the whole game isn't played during 3rd and short.

And seeing as how we have the best rushing duo in the league and seeing as how Indy has one of the worst rush defenses in the league...I think we'll manage to win this one running.

you're in for a troubling afternoon my man

Indy wins 12-14 games every year...

they are at home

we are not going to win this game

period.

My thoughts EXACTLY.
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I didn't say that they would lose. But they have a chance to lose if they don't fix their run D.

We'll lose to the Colts. We have a good chance to upset the Texans. We'll beat the Jags and the Bills.

I voted two but there is a possibility that we could come out with 3 wins.

I think we'll be 5-2 with the division lead still in our hands. Even after we lose the next two (if we lose the next two) and are at 3-2 we'll still be in first place.

The Colts lost by 10... Arian Foster had his way with them, but that's it. Schaub wasn't great (didn't have to be, obviously), a couple of sacks.. :shrug: Manning still threw for 450 yards and 3 TDs. The Colts got off to a slow start (down 13-0).

Since then, they've given up 120 yards to the NYG and 47 to the Broncos. Even if they can't stop TJ and JC, Manning has already thrown for 1000 yards and 9 TDs (exactly 3/game).. if they get up by a couple of scores at home, it's going to be really, really hard to play catch up on the road against them.... and so far this year, if anything, Cassel has been a 2nd half QB.

Herm's team should have beaten them with Croyle a few years ago in Indy, so I wouldn't be that surprised if this Chiefs team could beat them, but I really don't think it's a toss up game like some are saying.

I'm gonna say 2 games, 3 would be great. But I don't know if we can beat the Colts, even with our brand new D. But houston is winnable, I'd say 50/50 on that. And we better damn well beat the Bills and Jags.

This. Indy's run D isn't as bad as people and the stats make it out to be. They had a terrible week 1 and have rebounded in weeks 2 and 3.

Yeah? Jamaal Charles > Arian Foster. Thomas Jones > Arian Foster.

And our pass defense is better than Houstons. They are dead last in the league in pass defense. I think we'll fair a big better than Houston.

Think about it. Denver should be thrown out because none of their RBs are worth 2 shits. But Arian Foster ran for 240 on them. Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs ran for 120. What do you think Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones can do?

Ahmad Bradshaw averaged 5.2 against them. Ahmad ****ing Bradshaw.

And the Broncos shouldn't be in this conversation. They couldn't run their way out of a wet paper bag.

Yep.:clap:

The Broncos are an elite passing team that doesn't need the run./knowmo.

I hope you're right. I have that "upset feeling" but looking at it objectively, we may be outgunned here.

I love this team so far, but I keep expecting a collapse. I voted one

^Yup.
When was the last time the Chiefs beat Indy or Jacksonville?

Eh, Bradshaw had 5.9 last week on 2 fewer carries against the Titans, and they're in the middle of the pack in rush defense.

True. I know what you're getting at, my main concern is having to throw the run game out the window if they get off to a slow start.

As far as the Chiefs' pass defense, I wish them luck. It might be better than Houston's, but Manning & his receivers indoors at home is a little different than Rivers in the rain, Seneca Wallace, or Alex Smith.

We beat Indy in 2004 I believe.
The last time we played them we lost 13-10 though in the RCA dome.

I can only hope the score is that close.

Halloween, 2004 at Arrowhead.

I feel very confident that we'll go 2-2 over that stretch.
The real question though is...which two teams will we beat?

We need to win against either Indianapolis or Houston to prove that we're REALLY turning the corner. Beating up on the Jags and Bills won't tell us much. Neither of those two teams are any good.

I personally would like to see us win at Indy, drop the Houston game, drop the Jags game then collect the 2nd win against the Bills.

Beat Jaguars and Bills and either Houston or Indy. 3-1

Just thought I'd throw this in rather than start a thread and be accused of homerism but I got this from the official Chiefs website:


3-0 Playoff Odds

Many of you have asked for the statistics, so here they are.

Over the last five years, 21 of the 27 teams to start 3-0 or better have made the playoffs. That’s a playoff percentage of 77.8%. What’s interesting, however, is that five of the six teams that missed the playoffs did so in the past two seasons.

Since 2005, these are the teams that have missed the playoffs following a 3-0 start…

2009 Broncos (6-0 start; 8-8 record):loser:

2009 Giants (5-0 start; 9-7 record)

2008 Bills (4-0 start; 7-9 record)

2008 Broncos (3-0 start; 8-8 record):loser:

2008 Cowboys (3-0 start; 9-7 record)

2006 Bengals (3-0 start; 8-8 record)


So according to this the worst we should do is 7-9 which is above most of our expectations before the year started.

The Texans haven't even seen a great running game yet. Indys sucks, Redskins sucks, and Dallas only ran the ball 11 times on them. Houston kicked their own ass in that game.
And I don't see them stopping our running attack.
The only threat we have at Indy is Peyton to Collie. Stop that, game over. It's not impossible.

haha...

it's funny how people like to underestimate Peyton Manning...

yeah...stop manning to collie and we win!

haha

Dude, we get it. Manning is your hero and everything around him is golden.

I would love to get one of the next two. I believe we can.

I would flip my guess and say the Bills come in and win, since they should lose big. I say the Chiefs beat Jacksonville since the game is not in Florida.

This thread is getting weirder and weirder. :spock:

2 against Buffalo & Jacksonville. If our defense keeps playing the way they're playing, I just don't see any way we lose those games against 2 mediocre offenses and bad defenses.

I think we have a SHOT against Indy & Houston. For some reason, I just think we have a better shot @ Indy because we have 2 weeks to prepare & get rested, Crennel knows how to contain Manning, we can stop the run, they can't run, we're the best running team, they can't stop the run, and last week their pass defense was god awful. I know they play better D @ home, but IDK...I just think we have a better shot @ Indy than Houston. But I think we'll end up losing both.

No, and I hate to go full drafturbator...but we're not going to beat the Colts @ Indianapolis.

It's a terrible, terrible matchup for us...

We're not going to consistently beat Peyton Manning...and Matt Cassel isn't going to keep us in some sort of a "shootout"...

Now we can make a debate about Houston...I see us losing both but I can at least see us pulling off an upset there...

but we're not going to beat Indy.

Worst Case Scenario:
Indy - Lose
Houston - Lose
Jax - Win
Buffalo - Win

Best Case Scenario:
Indy - Lose
Houston - Win
Jax - Win
Buffalo - Win

Either way I don't see this team beating the Colts @ Indy. Maybe we'd have shot @ KC. But like what was previously said, Cassel won't be able to keep us in the game should it be a shootout. Now, could we learn from Houston's week1 win and run for 200yds and keep Manning off the field? I guess that COULD happen, but better judgement would have me believe that Indy won't allow that to happen again and given who we have at QB, they're going to try and make Cassel beat them while they have those rush ends who are extremely fast off the line on their field turf. We have a DC that has a good record against Manning, but we don't have the players he had in NE, that's for sure.

And I dont know what the Colt's reg season home record is in the past 7-8 years, but I bet it's something ridiculous. Not many teams beat them at their place in the reg season and to be honest I can't remember the last time that's happened (in a game that's mattered, ie: A lot of times the Colts wrap up their division w/ a few weeks left to play and they rest their players for the postseason etc)

2-2, possible upset with Indy.

Jacksonville won't be a easy win, and Buffalo looked better against NE than the previous games...

Wheres the logic here?

Indy run D = Awful

KC Run O = Very Good

Indy Pass D = Decent

KC Pass O = Awful

KC Pass D = Decent enough to make a few stops.
If we run the ball, and Cassel doesn't turn it over, our D gets a few stops. Will be a very close game.

Houston has a better D, and a offense that can score just as much as Indy.

I've watched KC the first three games...

Other than 1 long Charles run...and then garbage time yardage against San Fran when they had basically given up...

What has our running game done for us? Occasionally Charles will move the chains with a long run...TJ sets up in a lot of 3rd and shorts...

but until the gimmick plays against San Fran...we STILL weren't sustaining drives regardless of how well we were running the ball...

We are the worst 3rd down team in football (if I had to guess)...we can't figure out how to convert 3rd and short...

So yeah...lets say we get 4 yards, get 4 yards...what are we going to do on 3rd and 2?

Gain 8 yards...no gain...what are we going to do on 3rd and 2?

THE KEY TO US BEATING THE COLTS is SIMPLE...

Convert 3rd downs.

Can we do it?

Well we haven't done it yet so we'll see I guess...but that's the absolute key to the game...if we punt to them 8 times they are going to win...

Teams like Jacksonville have had success against the Colts in the past because they are great at keeping Peyton off the field...

Can Matt Cassel pick up the 3rd and shorts? If he can, we can pull out an upset...but I certainly doubt it happens.

I really, really like the way you put it.

if they pull out a miracle at indy,anything is possible.

The Texans haven't seen a great run game yet because teams don't want to run the ball on them. Their passing D is so ****ing awful why bother running?

If we are going to pull off an upset, I think it's against the Colts, not the Texans. we Don't match up well with the Texans at all.

I could be wrong though, the Texans always seem to shoot themselves in the foot. They play down to their competition.

I think we have a 70% chance to go 2-2.

10% to go 3-1 or 1-3.

5% chance to go 0-4 or 4-0.

Simple really.

yeah I basically agree with these percentages

We're tied at 22nd in the league on 3rd down% @ 32.5%. Atlanta is #1 at 51%. We were 50% against the 9ers.


PhilFree:arrow:

Ah. Thanks for the stat.

I'm amazed there are teams worse than us on 3rd down...I guess the San Fran game helped right that ship a bit...

We went 1-11 on 3rd downs agaisnt the Chargers, 5-15 against the Browns adnthen 7-14 against the 9ers. It's early in the season for stats to have full meaning IMO but we've improved every game.


PhilFree:arrow:

Buffalo and Jacksonville are a mess. Their QB situationa are poor, neither have a particularly effective offense or defense. I'll be shocked if the Chiefs don't beat both squads, especially considering they are home games.

I think the Chiefs split with Indy/Houston. Crennel is 7-0 against Manning and they'll have two weeks to prepare. Carr & Flowers are playing lights out and the bye week will help out Lewis and Berry tremendously.

Chiefs go 3-1 out of the next four.

Hmmm.. against the Patriots with Romeo Crennel, Manning has thrown 10 interceptions.

Lets go BFlo, BCarr, Berry, and Lewis!

You would think but historically the Chiefs have struggled against Jacksonville. They have only beat the Jags twice.

I voted 2, but am hoping for 3.

Right, but I think this team has different strengths than Vermeil's team, so they should come out ahead.

Plus, Jacksonville is a mess. The two tackles they took last year (Monroe & Eben) are really struggling and I think Crennel takes advantage of them.

I voted 2 but hoping for 3 ....

Voted 2, but hoping for miracles.