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chris 10-10-2010 02:15 PM

WAAAAAAA...it all Cassel/Bowe's fault....Oh really? It was a TEAM losing effort.
 
Two elements that made us 3-0 were not there

1) Running game did not control LoS and eat up time.

2) Special teams did not create strong field position or points.

But go ahead and bash away on only TWO players.

007 10-10-2010 02:16 PM

You're and idiot

DaneMcCloud 10-10-2010 02:17 PM

Shut the **** up, Chris

GloryDayz 10-10-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076648)
Two elements that made us 3-0 were not there

1) Running game did not control LoS and eat up time.

2) Special teams did not create strong field position or points.

But go ahead and bash away on only TWO players.

LOL, what game were YOU watching?

FloridaMan88 10-10-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076648)
Two elements that made us 3-0 were not there

1) Running game did not control LoS and eat up time.

2) Special teams did not create strong field position or points.

But go ahead and bash away on only TWO players.

Do you enjoy being Cassel's jock strap?

Fritz88 10-10-2010 02:18 PM

We are seeing an influx of shitty threads after the game. Mods?

chiefzilla1501 10-10-2010 02:18 PM

I think the only "team" effort we can all agree upon is that everyone collectively thinks you're an idiot.

Sannyasi 10-10-2010 02:18 PM

The running game was good today. And your second point is no kind of argument in your favor; the reason we've had to rely on special teams in the past is precisely because of the ineptitude of our offense.

Chiefs Rool 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

Chris is the new poster boy for abortion.

Stewie 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

Who are you? Indy's defense sucks balls. We couldn't do shit. This coaching staff coaches around Cassel's inability to throw a pass. Bowe is stupid and can't focus.

chris 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 7076674)
The running game was good today. And your second point is no kind of argument in your favor; the reason we've had to rely on special teams in the past is precisely because of the ineptitude of our offense.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

King_Chief_Fan 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076648)
Two elements that made us 3-0 were not there

1) Running game did not control LoS and eat up time.

2) Special teams did not create strong field position or points.

But go ahead and bash away on only TWO players.

Not hard to stop the run when you know a team doesn't have the QB to defend against

</post> 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

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beach tribe 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

God you are Fn STUPID

RustShack 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

Who is this ****tard? The team played great. Cassel didn't.

Bugeater 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

This guy is the biggest douchebag on the board, and that's saying a lot.

teedubya 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

Waaaaa I hope all of your girlfriends **** firemen. Oh and stfu

cdcox 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076648)
Two elements that made us 3-0 were not there

1) Running game did not control LoS and eat up time.

2) Special teams did not create strong field position or points.

But go ahead and bash away on only TWO players.


1) The lack of a passing game made us one dimensional. That directly hurts the performance of the running game.

2) Superior special teams play isn't really sustainable. You can gain some advantages over teams with bad special teams, but if you are playing a team with good special teams, it becomes a non-factor.

Reaper16 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

Ban him.

chris 10-10-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7076671)
I think the only "team" effort we can all agree upon is that everyone collectively thinks you're an idiot.

why confuse ranting/crying with facts??

It gets very , very old.

swayy07 10-10-2010 02:20 PM

http://kiss1047.net/everybody-hates-chris.jpg

King_Chief_Fan 10-10-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076648)
Two elements that made us 3-0 were not there

1) Running game did not control LoS and eat up time.

2) Special teams did not create strong field position or points.

But go ahead and bash away on only TWO players.

\
feeling stupid yet

Bwana 10-10-2010 02:21 PM

:facepalm:

beach tribe 10-10-2010 02:21 PM

YOU are the only one who agrees with you. That should tell you something/

BillSelfsTrophycase 10-10-2010 02:21 PM

I see why your rep is disabled

seclark 10-10-2010 02:21 PM

917 posts. think about what he's saying.
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dirk digler 10-10-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076648)
Two elements that made us 3-0 were not there

1) Running game did not control LoS and eat up time.

2) Special teams did not create strong field position or points.

But go ahead and bash away on only TWO players.

We had over 100 yards rushing so the running game was fine.

The problem was Cassel can't make legit QB throws and obviously Bowe can't catch a cold. If we had either one of those happen we win this game

beach tribe 10-10-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076700)
why confuse ranting/crying with facts??

It gets very , very old.

Then leave. you are obviously an idiot. We do not care.

RustShack 10-10-2010 02:22 PM

No wonder Cassel sucks, he gets on Chiefs planet and posts stupid shit like this.

alnorth 10-10-2010 02:23 PM

Bullcrap. You can point to dropped catches and debatable aggressive calls, and whatever. With all those stops and gifts, we should have won. We would have won with an average QB. Matt Cassel lost that game. No, he doesn't have all the blame, but he has well over half of it. He was so bad out there, if you erase all mistakes from everywhere else, we still probably lose that game because our quarterback is a rancid pile of rat-infested garbage.

SenselessChiefsFan 10-10-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7076679)
Who are you? Indy's defense sucks balls. We couldn't do shit. This coaching staff coaches around Cassel's inability to throw a pass. Bowe is stupid and can't focus.

Indy's defense is pretty good at home.

I think it was much more concern about the pass rush.... but believe what you want.

Valiant 10-10-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Rool (Post 7076677)
Chris is the new poster boy for abortion.

I just figured the LJ nuthugger changed names..

GloryDayz 10-10-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7076670)
We are seeing an influx of shitty threads after the game. Mods?

Yet you read them.... Hmmmm, odd!!!

dj56dt58 10-10-2010 02:23 PM

go die in a ****ing fire and take your butt ****ing buddies Bowe and Cassel with you

007 10-10-2010 02:24 PM

it is unanimous.

Sully 10-10-2010 02:24 PM

Dumb****

WilliamTheIrish 10-10-2010 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7076670)
We are seeing an influx of shitty threads after the game. Mods?

Don't click. Don't reply. This isn't phogtard.net where we cry for the mods.

Chris and KCChiefan88 are obvious mental defectives. Let their thread die an inglorious death.

milkman 10-10-2010 02:25 PM

The fact is, Jamaal Charles averaged 5.4 yards, but his ball secuity was very questionable.

I think the Chiefs lost confidence in him after he nearly lost the ball on one play, and followed that up later when he did actually lose the ball.

The problem is that Jones was producing, so that put the ball in Cassel's hand, and that is a formula for failure.

beach tribe 10-10-2010 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7076756)
it is unanimous.

I believe so....but I'm sure he's right, and we're all wrong.:rolleyes:

King_Chief_Fan 10-10-2010 02:25 PM

Is sensiblechieffan and chris the same person.
2 people this ignorant is very amazing

RealSNR 10-10-2010 02:25 PM

Die of ebola, asshole

alnorth 10-10-2010 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7076761)
Don't click. Don't reply. This isn't phogtard.net where we cry for the mods.

Chris and KCChiefan88 are obvious mental defectives. Let their thread die an inglorious death.

yep, we don't need no damned moderation. See stupid thread, commence beatdown until the stupid threads stop.

herkyhawkeye 10-10-2010 02:26 PM

does it bug any of you that Moeaki doesnt get more throws his way? Im a big homer so take it fwiw, but it seems to me like he should get more throws his way. he catches everything and he gets open.

BigMeatballDave 10-10-2010 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076648)
Two elements that made us 3-0 were not there

1) Running game did not control LoS and eat up time.

2) Special teams did not create strong field position or points.

But go ahead and bash away on only TWO players.

STFU Go have a 3some with your mother and sister. Assbag.

milkman 10-10-2010 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7076736)
Bullcrap. You can point to dropped catches and debatable aggressive calls, and whatever. With all those stops and gifts, we should have won. We would have won with an average QB. Matt Cassel lost that game. No, he doesn't have all the blame, but he has well over half of it. He was so bad out there, if you erase all mistakes from everywhere else, we still probably lose that game because our quarterback is a rancid pile of rat-infested garbage.

Good QBs overcome mistakes.

Matt Cassel just doesn't.

beach tribe 10-10-2010 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7076765)
The fact is, Jamaal Charles averaged 5.4 yards, but his ball secuity was very questionable.

I think the Chiefs lost confidence in him after he nearly lost the ball on one play, and followed that up later when he did actually lose the ball.

The problem is that Jones was producing, so that put the ball in Cassel's hand, and that is a formula for failure.

I guess there's no ?? why the staff leaned on TJ now. He's probably been coughing it up in practice.

HBKChiefs 10-10-2010 02:27 PM

And how about starting off the game by giving Manning great field position? Oh and how about that 4th down conversion attempt? Bad coaching on those two calls. We didn't utilize our run game properly throughout the game even though it was working in the 1st qtr. Special teams didn't get us the field position we have gotten used to this season so far.

But then you also have the piss poor play of Cassel and Bowe drops. Defense played their asses off. It was a team loss but the D played great IMO. The QB was pretty terrible, there is really no way around it.

King_Chief_Fan 10-10-2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkyhawkeye (Post 7076775)
does it bug any of you that Moeaki doesnt get more throws his way? Im a big homer so take it fwiw, but it seems to me like he should get more throws his way. he catches everything and he gets open.

I am a big Moeaki fan.....used way too few times

cdcox 10-10-2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7076774)
yep, we don't need no damned moderation. See stupid thread, commence beatdown until the stupid threads stop.

Economics is a beautiful thing.

beach tribe 10-10-2010 02:28 PM

JC needs to go toTiki Barber school of carrying the football.

chris 10-10-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7076737)
Indy's defense is pretty good at home.

I think it was much more concern about the pass rush.... but believe what you want.

But, but, but, its all Cassel and Bowe's fault.

Def ense played containment; but did not create major pressure on Manning.

ST did not create field position;

OL did not create between Tackle runs;

QB suck

WR drops.

St missed FG.

TEAM did not execute today.

Think what you; I'm glad Y'all are not coaching KC.

alnorth 10-10-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBKChiefs (Post 7076790)
And how about starting off the game by giving Manning great field position? Oh and how about that 4th down conversion attempt?

In order: I'm fine with it, and right call, bad play. In both cases our D bailed us out and largely nullified the impact. If our coaches and receivers are perfect, we force OT if we are very damned lucky. More likely, our defense eventually breaks to Manning in the final minutes from being forced to play all damn day because of Cassel's awesome 3-and-outs.

Our QB is garbage, and he is the primary reason we lost today.

notorious 10-10-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076825)
But, but, but, its all Cassel and Bowe's fault.

Def ense played containment; but did not create major pressure on Manning.

ST did not create field position;

OL did not create between Tackle runs;

QB suck

WR drops.

St missed FG.

TEAM did not execute today.

Think what you; I'm glad Y'all are not coaching KC.


19 ****ing points given up against Indy at HOME.

The offense scored 9 against a shit defense.

You are insane!


JFC

alnorth 10-10-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076825)
But, but, but, its all Cassel and Bowe's fault.

Were they your buddies in college or something? If you are unable to pin the game on Cassel and Bowe, given what happened and how bad they played, then they can never be blamed for a loss. This game is a prime example of a loss via QB. If not this game, then never.

Red Brooklyn 10-10-2010 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7076855)
Were they your buddies in college or something? If you are unable to pin the game on Cassel and Bowe, given what happened and how bad they played, then they can never be blamed for a loss. This game is a prime example of a loss via QB. If not this game, then never.

:clap:

I wish I hadn't handed out too much rep in the last 24hrs...

Great post.

Galileo Humpkins 10-10-2010 02:35 PM

Do you smell of Elmer's glue and have pancake syrup stains scattered about your shirt? If so, I may have avoided you in school.

Bob Dole 10-10-2010 02:36 PM

50% Mark Castle. 45% Bowe. 5% moronic playcalling (we OWNED the edge, so let's run up the middle...)

HBKChiefs 10-10-2010 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7076828)
In order: I'm fine with it, and right call, bad play. In both cases our D bailed us out and largely nullified the impact. If our coaches and receivers are perfect, we force OT if we are very damned lucky. More likely, our defense eventually breaks to Manning in the final minutes from being forced to play all damn day because of Cassel's awesome 3-and-outs.

Our QB is garbage, and he is the primary reason we lost today.

What Im saying about the 4th down attempt is it took 3 precious points off the board for us and the onside kick pretty much gave the Colts 3 points. That's a 6 point swing. You don't give up points to the Colts ever. That 6 point swing changed the early complection of the game.

The Bad Guy 10-10-2010 02:36 PM

You should post a lot less. I thought you were mildly stupid before, now I know you are a full fledged moron.

farmerchief 10-10-2010 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 7076791)
I am a big Moeaki fan.....used way too few times


Yep, only person on the team, I trust, with excellent hands! Maybe he just wasnt open?

Sully 10-10-2010 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076825)
But, but, but, its all Cassel and Bowe's fault.

Def ense played containment; but did not create major pressure on Manning.

ST did not create field position;

OL did not create between Tackle runs;

QB suck

WR drops.

St missed FG.

TEAM did not execute today.

Think what you; I'm glad Y'all are not coaching KC.

Dumb****

The fact that you would even include missed FG in that list tells me all I need to know about your football acumen.
You and saccopoo should go **** each other with broken glass.

DaneMcCloud 10-10-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076825)
But, but, but, its all Cassel and Bowe's fault.

Def ense played containment; but did not create major pressure on Manning.

ST did not create field position;

OL did not create between Tackle runs;

QB suck

WR drops.

St missed FG.

TEAM did not execute today.

Think what you; I'm glad Y'all are not coaching KC.

Word cannot describe your obvious stupidity

BigRichard 10-10-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076825)
But, but, but, its all Cassel and Bowe's fault.

Def ense played containment; but did not create major pressure on Manning.

ST did not create field position;

OL did not create between Tackle runs;

QB suck

WR drops.

St missed FG.

TEAM did not execute today.

Think what you; I'm glad Y'all are not coaching KC.

The D held the Colts to 12 points until late in the 4th Q. If you can not say the D played like all stars your are a complete dumb****.

BigMeatballDave 10-10-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7076737)
Indy's defense is pretty good at home.

I think it was much more concern about the pass rush.... but believe what you want.

Please remove Chris' cock from your mouth.

BigRichard 10-10-2010 02:41 PM

This guy is obviously a troll. You should just ignore this thread and let it die.

beach tribe 10-10-2010 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBKChiefs (Post 7076902)
What Im saying about the 4th down attempt is it took 3 precious points off the board for us and the onside kick pretty much gave the Colts 3 points. That's a 6 point swing. You don't give up points to the Colts ever. That 6 point swing changed the early complection of the game.

It was the Colts on the road. If we would have gotten those, it would have guaranteed the win if we had a QB other than Casshole, and you would be sucking Haley's CarK.

Bob Dole 10-10-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7076765)
The fact is, Jamaal Charles averaged 5.4 yards, but his ball secuity was very questionable.

I think the Chiefs lost confidence in him after he nearly lost the ball on one play, and followed that up later when he did actually lose the ball.

The problem is that Jones was producing, so that put the ball in Cassel's hand, and that is a formula for failure.

95% of NFL running backs would have lost that ball. Freak play where the defender's helmet was planted squarely on the ball.

RealSNR 10-10-2010 02:42 PM

Chris was right there blaming the Dick Vermeil offenses for never winning anything.

Football is a team sport, guys. You win as a team, you lose as a team. If you lose, it's because of the TEAM.

MIAdragon 10-10-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7076656)
You're and idiot

your and idiot, jfc.

MIAdragon 10-10-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 7076934)
95% of NFL running backs would have lost that ball. Freak play where the defender's helmet was planted squarely on the ball.

This.

Valiant 10-10-2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7076843)
19 ****ing points given up against Indy at HOME.

The offense scored 9 against a shit defense.

You are insane!


JFC

Yeah no shit.. Another ****tard that cannot see the mountain because of the trees..

Defense did a great job.. You send more after him and he has more passing lanes.. The defensive coordinator did an amazing job today..

Cassle faced one of the worst defenses today and looked like shit.. He alone made them look better.. Same for our sad ass WRs dropping balls left and right and not getting open against the same crap defense..

We missed a 51yard FG?? BFD, they are never guaranteed..

MadMax 10-10-2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 7076825)
But, but, but, its all Cassel and Bowe's fault.

Def ense played containment; but did not create major pressure on Manning.

ST did not create field position;

OL did not create between Tackle runs;

QB suck

WR drops.

St missed FG.

TEAM did not execute today.

Think what you; I'm glad Y'all are not coaching KC.






Derrrr! Doh!

herkyhawkeye 10-10-2010 02:44 PM

from an outside observer.

You have a quality run game. Your oline is solid.
You have a very good defense. Best cb duo in the league. Hali is coming into his own and your LBers are solid.
Cassel isnt a longterm option. If Croyle is injury prone, take a chance on him.
I had Bowe on my fantasy team last year and was dissappointing. This team is short an average qb and a playmaking wide receiver from being a yearly playoff contender. Future is very bright.

Im a bears fan first and foremost in the nfl but am an Iowa and cfb fanatic. Ive watched Indy wheneer they are on because of Dallas Clark and Bob Sanders. I have never seen how disrupted the Colts offense looked today. You got a great defense. You never want to lose but there was a lot of good to take away from this game.

BigMeatballDave 10-10-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBKChiefs (Post 7076790)
And how about starting off the game by giving Manning great field position? Oh and how about that 4th down conversion attempt? Bad coaching on those two calls. We didn't utilize our run game properly throughout the game even though it was working in the 1st qtr. Special teams didn't get us the field position we have gotten used to this season so far.

But then you also have the piss poor play of Cassel and Bowe drops. Defense played their asses off. It was a team loss but the D played great IMO. The QB was pretty terrible, there is really no way around it.

You are missing the point entirely. If Cassel plays well, none of those other mistakes matter at all.

FloridaMan88 10-10-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7076936)
Chris was right there blaming the Dick Vermeil offenses for never winning anything.

Football is a team sport, guys. You win as a team, you lose as a team. If you lose, it's because of the TEAM.

Do you jerk off to football cliches?

The Chiefs lost because of a shitty passing game, led by $63 million Steve Bono 2.0 and crappy WRs.

RedThat 10-10-2010 02:44 PM

Eh...We lost the game for a variety of reasons. It's just boils down to a lot of things.

I didn't agree with some of the calls Haley made. I thought those calls came back to haunt us...(i.e., the onside kick in the beginning, and going for it on 4th and 2 late in the first qtr in Indy's own end). Those two scenarios ended up in us losing points and giving Indy points.

Just too risky, and I don't think it's worth it to take too many chances against a team like the Colts. I mean don't get me wrong, you have take chances to win, but it's the type of chances we took today that I didn't agree with. We should of approached this game differently. If we were going to take chances, why not go down the field a bit? Yeah I know Cassel is not that great, but you can't neglect the passing game and expect to win. Todays game proved that imo. I thought we ignored it for the most part and relied heavily on the running game which most people thought was the right thing to do since Indy's rushing defense is not that good. Well, the running game didn't work for us and proved to be a little conservative for the most part.

What really agitated me was not capitalizing on the turnover. That right there was the MAIN reason why we lost. And Im not gonna blame Cassel, it was Bowe. So screw that for saying, ..."all Bowe fault", because he proved to be the major contributor into why we lost. He should of caught that pass, there was nothing wrong with the pass, but when Bowe dropped it and started smiling after, that part made me really angry...**** him stupid a**hole, players like him don't make your team better...Haley made a good point benching him last year. I can see why. And I think he should contemplate on doing it again.

Bowe aside, Love the way the defense played. That is how you defend Manning and the Colts. Hali's play changed my opinion about him. I thought he went out and played a great game. So did Dorsey, DJ and Flowers. Crennel is the best off-season acquisition by far.

*Tony Moeaki is going to be special. Kids got game. We need to use him more.

*Btw, Indy got the bounces too...Charles fumble hurt us. We forced a fumble, but they recovered it. When I saw those two things it made me think today wasn't going to be our day.

*Lastly I ****in HATE the Colts w/ a passion.

Red Brooklyn 10-10-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 7076911)
The D held the Colts to 12 points until late in the 4th Q. If you can not say the D played like all stars your are a complete dumb****.

This, goddamnit!!!

Peyton "Jesus ****ing Christ-like God-hands Boy Wonder Face-of-all GOAT" Manning had ZERO goddamn TDs and 1 INT.

COME ON.

Defense was hardly the issue.

KCHawg 10-10-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7076782)
STFU Go have a 3some with your mother and sister. Assbag.

Unpossible, they are the same person..........:D

beach tribe 10-10-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkyhawkeye (Post 7076957)
from an outside observer.

You have a quality run game. Your oline is solid.
You have a very good defense. Best cb duo in the league. Hali is coming into his own and your LBers are solid.
Cassel isnt a longterm option. If Croyle is injury prone, take a chance on him.
I had Bowe on my fantasy team last year and was dissappointing. This team is short an average qb and a playmaking wide receiver from being a yearly playoff contender. Future is very bright.

Im a bears fan first and foremost in the nfl but am an Iowa and cfb fanatic. Ive watched Indy wheneer they are on because of Dallas Clark and Bob Sanders. I have never seen how disrupted the Colts offense looked today. You got a great defense. You never want to lose but there was a lot of good to take away from this game.

That's exactly the way I see it. Smart people in Iowa.

prhom 10-10-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7076798)
Economics is a beautiful thing.

Ha! Adam Smith's "invisible hand" IS at work in this feeding frenzy.


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