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carlos3652 10-15-2010 08:11 AM

Larry Fitz (Rumor)
 
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...or-kansas-city

Is this even worth talking about?

Saulbadguy 10-15-2010 08:14 AM

No.

MMXcalibur 10-15-2010 08:15 AM

Ah, for f**k sakes...here we go.

MIAdragon 10-15-2010 08:15 AM

It's not even a rumor, so no it's not.

Silock 10-15-2010 08:15 AM

No way. Not the Patriot way.

Chiefnj2 10-15-2010 08:17 AM

It's not a rumor, but "yes" in answer to the question.

Ebolapox 10-15-2010 08:18 AM

yeah, and we'll pick up PEYTON MANNING on teh cheep too! CHEIFS 4EVR!

patteeu 10-15-2010 08:19 AM

Less than a rumor (but good for you for adding that to your thread title!).

I don't know if Arizona would give him up for a 1st round pick, but I think it would make all kinds of sense from the Chiefs' end.

Bugeater 10-15-2010 08:20 AM

Why do people think that bleacherreport.com is some kind of credible news source?

Baby Lee 10-15-2010 08:21 AM

I saw Bowe's name and suddenly realized I have replayed that drop in my mind about eleventy billion times this week. It's infusing my psyche on an order of magnitude alongside Baker kicking OOB, or Gonzalez getting shoved OOB in the EZ.

Sofa King 10-15-2010 08:26 AM

Would be awesome, but never gonna happen.

Marcellus 10-15-2010 08:26 AM

It would be awesome but it will NEVER happen.

PunkinDrublic 10-15-2010 08:48 AM

The deal is done!

BigChiefFan 10-15-2010 08:59 AM

You make that move in a heartbeat, Bowe's overrated and Chambers is nearing the end of his NFL career.

arrowheadnation 10-15-2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7089165)
Why do people think that bleacherreport.com is some kind of credible news source?

this.

From what I understand, anybody can be a "reporter" for bleacher report. One of my friends is a "writer" for Bleacher Report.

Red Brooklyn 10-15-2010 09:37 AM

Is it worth talking about? No. Because it's less than a rumor and even if this kind of thing was in the realm of possibility, everyone here (I think) would have pretty much the same response.

So, it would be fun, but it's not worth talking about. Especially not right now.

Bugeater 10-15-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aarowheadnation (Post 7089238)
this.

From what I understand, anybody can be a "reporter" for bleacher report. One of my friends is a "writer" for Bleacher Report.

That's exactly what it is, posting articles from there are the equivalent of posting links to rumors posted on other message boards.

the Talking Can 10-15-2010 09:44 AM

it's not a rumor...it's speculation by intertube reeruns...

Psyko Tek 10-15-2010 09:52 AM

just a rumor

but Scotty bought a delorean
he's gonna go get joe montana in his prime to play for us

The Franchise 10-15-2010 09:57 AM

I know there is no substance to it........


But not for a ****ing 1st round pick. I'd give them a 2nd round pick and a conditional pick in 2012. Use the 1st round pick next year and draft a ****ing QB.

Just for comparisons.....Matt Leinart couldn't get the ball to Fitz. Do you think Matt Cassel could?

Bill Brasky 10-15-2010 09:59 AM

"So no one has said anything about trading for the Cardinals' premier receiver... but maybe they should be."

At least they're admitting it's a pipe dream.

Ebolapox 10-15-2010 09:59 AM

yeah, I'd be all for it if we could get him on the cheap (less than a first), but we all know that they won't take a QB in the first. we're ****ed.

DaneMcCloud 10-15-2010 10:03 AM

LMAO

Yeah, sure. The Cardinals are going to trade the best receiver in the game and their primary offensive weapon.

LMAO

The author of this piece needs to be gang raped.

vailpass 10-15-2010 10:03 AM

Fitz is extremely frustrated in going from pro bowl every year catching balls from HOFer Warner to virtually dissapearing this year due to having broke-dick QBs throwing to him.

Fitz has a no-trade clause which means he can choose which teams he is dealt to and block a trade to any team to which he does not want to go.

Matt Cassel.

Coogs 10-15-2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn (Post 7089306)
Especially not right now.

Trade deadline is Oct. 19th. If we are looking at using a 1st rounder on a WR next April, I would definately look into this type of deal. If not, then nothing to see here.

Inspector 10-15-2010 10:34 AM

Maybe we could get Warner to come along too. You know, to throw the ball at him.

I mean, somebody has to throw him the ball, right?

Bugeater 10-15-2010 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector (Post 7089440)
Maybe we could get Warner to come along too. You know, to throw the ball at him.

I mean, somebody has to throw him the ball, right?

Not necessarily, we could always line one these up under center. :shrug:

http://shop.worldsportinggoods.com/i...hine-Gen11.jpg

Rausch 10-15-2010 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7089173)
It would be awesome but it will NEVER happen.

This.

Molitoth 10-15-2010 10:55 AM

It would be awesome to have Fitz, but it won't matter with Cassel throwing him the ball on 5 yard hitches.

Inspector 10-15-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7089454)
Not necessarily, we could always line one these up under center. :shrug:

http://shop.worldsportinggoods.com/i...hine-Gen11.jpg

That would look pretty good in red and gold about now. I wonder if it can avoid a sack.

Dylan 10-15-2010 11:01 AM

wow... that's great!

johnny961 10-15-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7089173)
It would be awesome but it will NEVER happen.


This. Nice thought though.

patteeu 10-15-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7089358)
I know there is no substance to it........


But not for a ****ing 1st round pick. I'd give them a 2nd round pick and a conditional pick in 2012. Use the 1st round pick next year and draft a ****ing QB.

Just for comparisons.....Matt Leinart couldn't get the ball to Fitz. Do you think Matt Cassel could?

I'd be shocked if the Chiefs use their #1 on a QB next year. My advice is to prepare for disappointment.

patteeu 10-15-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7089370)
LMAO

Yeah, sure. The Cardinals are going to trade the best receiver in the game and their primary offensive weapon.

LMAO

The author of this piece needs to be gang raped.

In your opinion, what price would get the Cardinals to part with Fitzgerald? And what should the Chiefs be willing to give up for him?

MeaTy The Pimp 10-15-2010 11:31 AM

Okay gang...

Dayze 10-15-2010 11:34 AM

i doubt the Chiefs will use a 1st on a QB in the next decade +.


Ineteresting question Patteeu...that's a tough one.

BigCatDaddy 10-15-2010 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7089549)
In your opinion, what price would get the Cardinals to part with Fitzgerald? And what should the Chiefs be willing to give up for him?

Marshall brought back 2 2nd round picks so at the very least you will have to give that up.

You would be better off waiting for another chance at a Boldin like trade for a 3rd and 4th or even better the deal the Pats got giving up a 4th for Moss.

RedThat 10-15-2010 12:32 PM

which wr's are coming out of the draft next year?

patteeu 10-15-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7089657)
Marshall brought back 2 2nd round picks so at the very least you will have to give that up.

You would be better off waiting for another chance at a Boldin like trade for a 3rd and 4th or even better the deal the Pats got giving up a 4th for Moss.

Marshall, Boldin, and Moss were traded by motivated sellers, to varying extents. I don't see any reason for Arizona to be in a hurry to move Fitzgerald so I can't imagine them being willing to take any of the deals you described above. If they were willing to take any of them, the Chiefs should jump on it today, IMO.

DaneMcCloud 10-15-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7089549)
In your opinion, what price would get the Cardinals to part with Fitzgerald?


There is no price. There's no way the Arizona Cardinals trade Larry Fitzgerald.

He's not Randy Moss, a guy with a chip on his shoulder in a contract year that's been a locker room cancer.

It's Larry Fitzgerald. A great team mate, maybe the hardest working receiver in the league who's far from malcontent.

Plus, they just traded away Anquan Boldin. Why in the world would they trade Fitz?


Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7089549)
And what should the Chiefs be willing to give up for him?

I guess the asking price for LF would be three number ones, which is never going to happen.

sedated 10-15-2010 01:42 PM

I agree with Dane. If the Cardinals are dumb enough to trade Fitz for a 1st, or a 1st and a 3rd, or two 2nds, they are stupid and the Chiefs should jump all over it.

There's no reason to trade him. He's not a cancer. He's not destined to be a free agent next year. He SEEMS like the kind of guy that would want to play his whole career in one place (especially after he's already been to a super bowl with that team). And he's their only offensive weapon.

BigCatDaddy 10-15-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7089689)
Marshall, Boldin, and Moss were traded by motivated sellers, to varying extents. I don't see any reason for Arizona to be in a hurry to move Fitzgerald so I can't imagine them being willing to take any of the deals you described above. If they were willing to take any of them, the Chiefs should jump on it today, IMO.

Right, like I said you start at 2 2nds for Marshall and must at least do that and probably more. So it would take a lot, maybe a 1st and 2nd if those picks aren't at the bottom of the round especially now that top picks will actually will have value again once a new CBA is reached.

keg in kc 10-15-2010 01:46 PM

I think it's a done deal. We'll hear it announced right after the trade with New England for Tom Brady goes through.

BigCatDaddy 10-15-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7089705)


I guess the asking price for LF would be three number ones, which is never going to happen.

Wow, I don't think that's ever been done for 1 guy has it? The Hershall Walker trade has so much extra stuff thrown in there it's tough to quantify what part of that he actually brought back IMO.

Cutler basically brought 2 1st and I think it would take a prime Manning, Brady, Rivers, type QB to bring back 3 1st.

But yeah, it would never happen.

patteeu 10-15-2010 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7089705)
There is no price. There's no way the Arizona Cardinals trade Larry Fitzgerald.

He's not Randy Moss, a guy with a chip on his shoulder in a contract year that's been a locker room cancer.

It's Larry Fitzgerald. A great team mate, maybe the hardest working receiver in the league who's far from malcontent.

Plus, they just traded away Anquan Boldin. Why in the world would they trade Fitz?

There's always a price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7089705)
I guess the asking price for LF would be three number ones, which is never going to happen.

There you go. Thanks. I agree that whatever they'd be willing to take, it would be so high that the Chiefs or pretty much anyone else would be foolish to give it up.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-15-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7089454)
Not necessarily, we could always line one these up under center. :shrug:

http://shop.worldsportinggoods.com/i...hine-Gen11.jpg

You gotta' put it in a wheel barrow so Charles or Jones can move and aim it.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-06-2011 10:34 AM

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Cardinals soliciting opinion of WR Larry Fitzgerald as to which QB he wants them to acquire. First recommendation was Kevin Kolb.

KCBOSS1 02-06-2011 11:03 AM

It always cracks me up when guys chime in on a topic and talk about how something is not worth talking about 20 times. Then they'll stay and talk through the whole thread about how the topic is not worth talking about.

KCBOSS1 02-06-2011 11:04 AM

If you don't like the topic, insert something more interesting, Eddie

BigRedChief 02-06-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7089705)
There is no price. There's no way the Arizona Cardinals trade Larry Fitzgerald.

He's not Randy Moss, a guy with a chip on his shoulder in a contract year that's been a locker room cancer.

It's Larry Fitzgerald. A great team mate, maybe the hardest working receiver in the league who's far from malcontent.

Plus, they just traded away Anquan Boldin. Why in the world would they trade Fitz?




I guess the asking price for LF would be three number ones, which is never going to happen.

Depends on the situation. Those attributes you described above could be applied to Tony G when we traded him.

They are re-building. They don't need the best WR in the game right now, but in 3 years.

But, I just don't see us getting him for our #1. The price is going to be higher. And if we draft like we did last year, those picks will make us better in the long term than having Fitz on the team will in the short term.

Brock 02-06-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7410192)
Depends on the situation. Those attributes you described above could be applied to Tony G when we traded him.

ROFL wut

BigRedChief 02-06-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7410198)
ROFL wut

What's so funny? You don't think this is true of Tony G in 2009? Hard worker, not a malcontent, best at his position

He's not Randy Moss, a guy with a chip on his shoulder in a contract year that's been a locker room cancer.

It's Larry Fitzgerald. A great team mate, maybe the hardest working receiver in the league who's far from malcontent

Brock 02-06-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7410210)
What's so funny? You don't think this is true of Tony G in 2009? Hard worker, not a malcontent, best at his position

He's not Randy Moss, a guy with a chip on his shoulder in a contract year that's been a locker room cancer.

It's Larry Fitzgerald. A great team mate, maybe the hardest working receiver in the league who's far from malcontent

Tony Gonzalez was a big ****ing whiner. Always was.

milkman 02-06-2011 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7410210)
What's so funny? You don't think this is true of Tony G in 2009? Hard worker, not a malcontent, best at his position

He's not Randy Moss, a guy with a chip on his shoulder in a contract year that's been a locker room cancer.

It's Larry Fitzgerald. A great team mate, maybe the hardest working receiver in the league who's far from malcontent

Tony is and always has been all about Tony.

When did Tony ever offer to take less pay so that the Chiefs could put more money on the table for other players?

When did Fitzgerald not dedicate his offseason to improving as a player to persue other interests?

When did Fitzgerald ever hold out?

When did Fitzgerald ever say publicly that he wanted to be traded?

Bowser 02-06-2011 11:29 AM

I thought it was pretty much a fact that Tony made no bones about his desire to play for a contender after the '08 season?

DTLB58 02-23-2011 09:31 AM

Bump for this update per rotoworld/via NFL.com...

Larry Fitzgerald has a clause in his contract that will not allow the Cardinals to use the franchise tag on him when his deal runs out in 2012.
Interesting. Reports of the Cardinals as willing to consider a Fitzgerald trade "for the right price" make a lot more sense if he's holding that much leverage. The two sides have touched base on a new deal, but Fitz isn't going to sign the dotted line until he sees a massive upgrade at QB. Pending a new CBA, the Cardinals should have a good feel for Fitz's 2012 intentions by late spring or early summer.

Source: NFL.com Feb 23, 9:05 AM
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...gerald-in-2012

Valiant 02-23-2011 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 7447638)
Bump for this update per rotoworld/via NFL.com...

Larry Fitzgerald has a clause in his contract that will not allow the Cardinals to use the franchise tag on him when his deal runs out in 2012.
Interesting. Reports of the Cardinals as willing to consider a Fitzgerald trade "for the right price" make a lot more sense if he's holding that much leverage. The two sides have touched base on a new deal, but Fitz isn't going to sign the dotted line until he sees a massive upgrade at QB. Pending a new CBA, the Cardinals should have a good feel for Fitz's 2012 intentions by late spring or early summer.

Source: NFL.com Feb 23, 9:05 AM
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...gerald-in-2012

Well if that report is true, it should effectively kill any fitz rumor to the chiefs. He wants a massive upgrade at qb, were boned.

The Franchise 02-23-2011 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 7447777)
Well if that report is true, it should effectively kill any fitz rumor to the chiefs. He wants a massive upgrade at qb, were boned.

Maybe he thinks Matt Cassel is a Franchise QB.

















































ROFL

Lzen 02-23-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7410210)
What's so funny? You don't think this is true of Tony G in 2009? Hard worker, not a malcontent, best at his position

He's not Randy Moss, a guy with a chip on his shoulder in a contract year that's been a locker room cancer.

It's Larry Fitzgerald. A great team mate, maybe the hardest working receiver in the league who's far from malcontent

One thing you forget in this comparison. Tony G. is getting pretty old by NFL standards (will be 35 this Sunday, btw). Larry Fitzgerald is 27. Just sayin.

kcfanXIII 02-23-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 7447777)
Well if that report is true, it should effectively kill any fitz rumor to the chiefs. He wants a massive upgrade at qb, were boned.

Average is a massive upgrade from what they are rolling with in AZ.

Halfcan 02-23-2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7410230)
Tony is and always has been all about Tony.

When did Tony ever offer to take less pay so that the Chiefs could put more money on the table for other players?
When did Fitzgerald not dedicate his offseason to improving as a player to persue other interests?

When did Fitzgerald ever hold out?

When did Fitzgerald ever say publicly that he wanted to be traded?

Why would he have to-the Cheaps have the rock bottom lowest payroll in any sport-(except the lowly Roayls).

Why would the Best TE of All Time have to take a discount??

WebGem 02-23-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7089153)
No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 7089155)
It's not even a rumor, so no it's not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7089159)
It's not a rumor, but "yes" in answer to the question.

lmao

Reerun_KC 02-23-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7089165)
Why do people think that bleacherreport.com is some kind of credible news source?

Same reason people think Whiltock is one?

MoreLemonPledge 02-23-2011 02:08 PM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_I0KlWPiJ0R...320/noyphh.jpg

vailpass 02-23-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 7447943)
Average is a massive upgrade from what they are rolling with in AZ.

When Fitz thinks of QB he thinks of Kurt.

ForeverChiefs58 02-25-2011 05:29 PM

Cardinals “optimistic” about Fizgerald negotiations


Cardinals G.M. Rod Graves says he’s optimistic by nature. That’s why he’s so sunny about a potential contract extension for wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald when there isn’t a lot of reason to think they will get one done by March 4.

“Obviously the window is getting shorter in terms of being able to close something before the end of the [league] year,” Graves said Friday via the team’s official website. “We will see what happens over the next week or week-and-a-half. Again, the objective is to extend his deal.”

Graves confirmed that negotiations were ongoing, but it doesn’t sound like a deal is imminent.

Fitzgerald represents the top of the Cardinals roster.

tk13 08-20-2011 11:18 PM

You have to have good WR's, for sure. But you don't build the team around them. There are plenty of great WR's like Moss, TO, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Steve Largent... didn't win squat. Everybody thought the Steelers were going to go downhill without Santonio Holmes, they ended up going to the Super Bowl without him. Jerry Rice is obviously an exception, but he's Jerry Rice. Of course Fitzgerald might end up being better than half the guys listed there, but even then that won't be enough.


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