NFL Sends Videos to All Teams of Legal/Illegal Hits -- and here it is
see link. The NFL sent this to all teams, instructing all head coaches to show it to all players.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos.../Player-safety |
Damn, that highlight reel was awesome!
JACKED UP! |
Is this guy's first language English? He sounds just like George Bush.
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I guess I understand the NFL's point a little bit more now. There really is no need for the head to head stuff, my problem comes with the shoulder pad to the head hits. Oftentimes the receiver ducks or recoils to avoid the hit and what was meant to be a shoulder pad to chest hit becomes a hit to the head.
Was it just me or were the Browns involved in like half of those videos, never on the good side of it? |
This sucks. I love seeing the kill-shot hits.
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I don't really see how the Ray Lewis hit was much different than the others. He still launched which was one of the buzz words of the video.
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I agree that hits to the head can be "caused" by the receiving player ducking. There is also the fight between offensive and defensive players to get low for leverage and, for the defender, to get under a ducking offensive player wtih the ball in an effort to dislodge the ball and cause a fumble.
The answer is that the NFL does not give a flying f**k about those issues. Their answer, really, is that if you want to do anything more aggressive than "wrapping up" the player, then you better make absolutely goddamn sure you don't hit his head. Forearm shivers to the head are OUT. Shoulders to the head are OUT. Head to anything is OUT. Launching is OUT. And to be honest, while we can all sit here and make comments about putting skirts on players and all that, it doesn't take too many viewings of a Kevin Turner (former Patriots player who now has ALS, or Chris Henry, the Bengals player who died, had an autopsy perofrmed, and became the 50th person diagnosed with a condition caused by repeated severe brain trauma. Quote:
So yeah, ultimately, I'm good with it. |
Flick ball.
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London Fletcher says BWAAAA HAAAA HAAAAAAAAAA!
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Hey, now wait a New York Minute...
Towards the end of that piece, they show Jerrod Page laying a hit on a NY Giants receiver over the middle. They say "This is a good, clean hit." Bullshit. Last year in that game, the ref's called that a personal foul, unnecessary roughness. NY scored a TD on the next play, and turned the whole complexion of the game. So they may say it's clean now,a year later, but it was called a personal foul when it happened. I clearly remember that hit and that day. It killed the Chiefs momentum that day. Talk about revisionist history! |
BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT! That hit that was "clean." according to the video was called as a penalty. Page knocked that guys dick in the dirt "legally." and they still called it a penalty.
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It just shows you how "open to interpretation" alot of this stuff is. Plus, when this stuff is happening at about 100 miles per hour in real time, it makes it 10 times harder to get a call correct. |
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Yep, just as I thought.
Here's the game recap. Read the blurb down about 2/3 before they start talking about Lawrence Tynes: http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=291004012 |
This is so wrong.
What should happen is that after a KO hit, the player should stand over the destroyed victim and look up to the Owner's box for the Thumbs up or Thumbs down to Finish him or show mercy. |
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It was a GREAT hit. But on that day, Page was called for Roughness. And it lead to a NY Giants TD. Turned the whole game. Now they're saying its clean, but it didn't help us that day one bit. |
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Yeah we got flagged for that one. Maybe they need to make this video bigger and send it to the refs so they stop calling unnecessary roughness for any big hit
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdlFOEZmvys
i thought this is what football of the future was going to be like |
1:40- 1:50 mark of the video i posted AWW YOU BLEW IT!
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Either way, it's a matter of inches and split seconds between a dirty and a league approved good clean hit. |
unrelated, the NFL was given some award on head injury awarness and prevention the same day this came out
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I don't think these guys have ANY type of clue how fast football is. They really think defensive players have the time to perfectly aim at an area less than 15 inches. |
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But tell that to Cleveland. Do you think it's fair that 2 guys get concussions and have to leave the game? Hell, if I'm a defender and want to win a game, just knock the top receiver out of the game. Without a suspension, that's well worth the $50,000 fine if it means you win the game. Rodney Harrison is right. Only a suspension is going to make it stop happening. |
I'm sorry, they just made the sport more boring.. I hope the owners counter with open statements of bonus that match monitary fines. If the NFL were really worried about the players, they'd balance-out this effort. How about making crossing routes more than 5 yards down the field (past where the bump is OK) illegal? Yeah, after 5 yards, you can only run directly North or South to catch a pass. That might make the hits being delivered more of a "glancing" blow. How about making these $20M+ QBs (who are so darm smart and valuable) accountable for setting up their WRs for those killer blows. All I'm saying is that it's not always on the defender to, sometimes it's just not worth a hard hit to to catch a ball.
Next up, let's really do the right thing and send out a video of the perils faced by defensive linemen... They get beat on, cut, chopped, and cracked all game long, and their $1M salaries don't warrent any widespread public videos of their careers getting ended... I say let them play, or, if they must, spread the wealth of accountability for safety... |
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Considering how shitty they are at calls that subjective such as PI, and how shitty they are at easy calls such as holding, this should be a treat.
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Like I said, maybe kill shots add a little flavor, but what if the Chiefs are in an important game and a Safety puts on a kill shot on Tony Moeaki and the Chiefs lose the game and lose Moeaki for 3 weeks from a concussion? It's good that the NFL is looking out for these players' long-term health. But as a fan, it's also good to know that there are consequences to knocking a player out. I watched the Steelers-Browns game with a bunch of Browns fans. Nothing is shittier than losing a player for the rest of the game because of a dirty play. If Massaquoi is going to miss time from a dirty hit, I think it's more than fair that the guy who delivered the hit miss time too. |
After watching that I wonder what it was like in NE when they were showing this video and the Merriweather play was shown.
That was probably a bit uncomfortable. That play should warrant suspension. The rest of them were all borderline. |
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Perhaps my years of playing D just makes me want there to be balance. Back when "Air" helmets were new, I remember getting the wind knowked out of me with the crown of one!! Leading with his helmet??? And don't fool yourself, the NFL only worried about money. and if it's not the money brought in by putting butts in the seats or replica shirts on some backs, it by protecting their $20M+ investment. It's not about the players (who can't even take their helmets off on the field for fear of creating an identity of theor own), it's about money... I'm telling you, outlaw crossing routes and slants, and there won't be nearly as many hurt players... Lowers scores perhaps, but less hurt players.. so what are we after, baseball style scores, or baskeball style scores? |
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I get that it's a violent game. I think they should try to reduce concussions but easier said than done. What I'm tired of is kill shots that take offensive players out of games. If you don't act now, what's to stop a defensive player from taking out a defenseless superstar receiver? Like I said, a $50,000 fine for getting an unfair advantage? Most players would gladly fork over that money. |
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The Page hit is a PERFECT example! Page would be sitting out a game or two until the league decides to use it as a prototypical "clean" hit in a example video. BULLHIT! |
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I'm no fan of the kill shot, but I know intimidation is part of the game, and when a WR comes through your box, then dances a jig, I'm not sure that he should remain as cocky the next time he transitions through your AOR again. Even if it's not about attitude, once a players been hit hard, it's hard to just brush it off. And in this day and ages of the WRs all the calls, and all the rules seem to be slanted their way, those kill shots might be as much out of frustration as the evil that lives in all of us... I predict we'll see a 62-58 game in the next 20 years... |
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A receiver running a route focused on the ball doesn't necessarily know what's coming and they get smashed high to separate them from the ball. There is a difference. |
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We're talking about an unnecessary technique. And we're talking about a work hazard. These kill shots are leading to long-term brain injuries. And I don't think it's fair that a kill shot can give a guy a concussion, while the guy delivering the hit gets to finish the game. I think kill shots should be reviewable and that if you're going to knock a player out of the game with an illegal hit, then it's only fair that the defender sit out the rest of the game too. I love hard hits, but I don't think you can claim that we should just forget that 4 guys in just one weekend had concussions for hits that could easily have been avoided. |
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Nice find
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What are they going to do in incidents like Byrd had in the game against KC a few years ago? Our QB, Dave Kreig, stepped up and avoided a sandwich between two jets and Byrd was seriously injured. Would the QB get the flag for getting out of the way? I know this is a tragic example but the new rule is pretty much damage control for a league that has taught hard hitting and aggressive behavior for many years. "The story of his tragic accident and remarkable recovery. Am I going to be paralyzed?" That was the question New York Jets defensive lineman Dennis Byrd kept asking the people around him as he lay in an ambulance, unable to move or even feel his limbs, last November 29. Minutes earlier, the 270-pound lineman had been barreling down the field, intent on sacking the opposing team's quarterback. But just as Byrd lunged, the QB stepped clear. And Byrd slammed instead into 275-pound teammate Scott Mersereau, who was steam-rolling in for the sack from the opposite side. In that tragic second, Byrd hit head-first, shattering a vertebra, one of the 33 bones that make up the spine. "The hit was deafaning," recalls Byrd. "I remember the feeling of slowly falling to the ground.... I tried to take my helmet off, to unsnap the snaps with my hand, and it ... it just wouldn't work right.... At that point, I began to realize that there wasn't any feeling." |
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Right, because toughness is defined by a guy parking his fat ass in a chair behind a computer screen and typing about how other people should get killed on the gridiron and how the NFL is turning them all into pussies by not letting them get JACKED UP. |
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The fine is donated to charity. Obviously, it makes no sense to give rich owners license to have their players generate fines while the more cash poor owners get screwed. Way to go trying to turn the NFL into more like MLB baseball, where the rich owners run the show. |
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this whole thing is reactionist BULL SHIT. its a violent sport, played by men. this is just another excuse to give the offense more of an advantage then they already have. its simple, you don't want your wide receiver getting hurt because he's running over the middle right through the cross hairs of a defender, don't run him over the middle. its ridiculous to ask a defender to not try to jar the ball loose or make the receiver remember a hit the next time he comes across the middle. JFC, just make it touch or flag football if you are that worried about it.
scenario: 3rd and 7, offense driving in the red zone, and your team is protecting a 4 point lead. a wr runs an 8 yard crossing pattern, and the pass is thrown. the only chance you have to stop them from getting a first down is your FS coming up and knocking snot bubbles out of the WR's nose in an attempt to jar the ball loose. the nfl is now saying it will be flagged, and your FS will be suspended. this is like telling nascar drivers "its too dangerous to run full throttle so we're gonna put speed limits on you" |
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what i say to cleveland is "tough shit" and quit running routes over the middle. and its not like its easy to just knock someone out of the game. shots to the head being banned i get. but there is no way a defense can be effective without being able to hit someone. |
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the defenders are screwed; under the current rules, they only chance they have to effect the play is to hit the guy to jar the ball loose. They need lax the PI on defensive players; or extend the 5 yard chuck rule to 10 yards.
Once a WR is beyond 5 yards, the defender has virtually zero chance. I don't blame them for laying the wood on a receiver; it's basically the only time the receiver can be touched. it's going to be sad when/if the NFL goes this route |
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I like the violence. I don't way my time and money to see people just running around.
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Remember, in the video it said the whole fault was on the guy hitting. In the case I noted the QB stepped up into the pocket and the two jets crashed. Deberg's fault for moving? Byrd's fault for aiming in a manner unfitting of the new rule? Just taking a circumstance from way back and asking how the same type of incident would be treated under this new rule. |
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Gah. I honestly did spend 10 seconds debating whether you were baiting me or not. I see I lost on that one. :shake: |
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Yes, which is what gave rise to the 10 second pause. But I read all these other moronic posts and was getting annoyed and then he cast his bait out there and I got hooked like a complete fool. But at least I admit it. And no doubt I'll get my revenge, someday.... (yeah, that's it) |
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