Props to Cassel for converting on some key 3rd downs
 

If you're going to pile on when he ****s up you gotta credit him when he plays well. Our run game was dominant, but I'm stoked Cassel was able to complete some key third down passes when the game was still close.

His pinpoint throw to Copper was huge.

You mean the pinpoint twice as high as Copper thread?

his 144 qb rating is right on target

I heard Copper pulled a hamstring trying to reach it.

Technically the recievers had to complete it when they were overthrown a couple times.

I was glad the Jaguars dropped a couple of interceptions while the game was close.

other quarterbacks get credit with their receivers make great catches, so should Cassel.

yup

Hey, I'm happy with Cassel today, But half the fun of being here on gameday is Cassel-Bashing, no matter what, you can't beat the trend.

You can if you're not a mindless reerun zombie following all of the other idiots like a fat guy following a hot chick with a sub sammy sticking out of her ass.

wat

I've been a Cassel basher, but he made some good throws. People just have it set in their mind to hate Cassel, so that probably won't be changing.

It is because people have been so outspoken in their hatred of Cassel they think their message board "rep" is tied to his failure. It keeps them from being able to watch a game with an open mind.

pathetic.

Cassel played OK today.

I'm glad.

The problem is we cannot count on 250 yards rushing every week, especially against good teams.

This game did nothing to make me think Cassel can lead the Chiefs to a playoff win.

I think we can count on the rushing.

I think we don't have to worry about Cassel leading us to anything.

I think Cassel is our Dilfer.

I think I need another beer.

This. There are going to be games where the running game is not there and we'll have to rely on Cassel. Will he be able to deliver?

So a mediocre back up QB is all we need yea:rolleyes:

Other than Boumans ints he looked better than Cassel considering he had 5 days from having his butt on a tractor. Props for Cassel not to **** up the game but honestly he is not the QB we need. We havn't drafted him yet

who said that?

I'm still not confident in the dude.

This is beyond reeruned. Did you not see the key third down conversions he made to keep the game clinching drive alive? Bouman started out hot but fell apart down thee stretch once Romeo was able to make the right defensive adjustments.

I'm all for replacing Cassel with an upgrade, but it does appear to me that he's gaining some confidence the last few weeks and has definitely made mo betta throws the last few games. Yeah he's always going to have some WTF throws, but I will take what he's done the last couple of weeks. I also see him playing with some passion and I like that.

The most impressive thing about Cassel today was that we had basically one wide receiver and he stood in there, made reads and completed 13 of 18.

It's pretty clear we don't have much at receiver, especially when Chambers is missing games.

Well excuse me, but damnit he hasn't won us a play off game yet or is he going to sniff us a Super Bowl?. I'm not jumping on his band waggon. I know he has and is playing better. That is good but I am not going to fool myself about a career backup retread QB. Sorry he has still a lot to prove to this team. We have been down this road so many times with QBs like him. Just a few weeks ago people were calling for Croyle. Now crown his ass for doing his job like he gets paid $63,000,000 in the first place. What ever you want to do is fine with me. The question is do you trust him in the playoffs when where the big boys play?

He has shown he can play well, he is still a mediocre QB at best. He is do able this season, but no matter what, I am rooting for the Chiefs to draft a high round and highly touted QBotf for the next NFL draft.

HAHAHAHA

****ing downs syndrome kid....

Protip: Playoffs start after week 17

Cassel played decent today, and I hope we're seeing a long-term rise in performance. I still worry about accuracy, witness the TD pass to Bowe that ended up requiring an official review. Bowe made a great catch on a badly overthrown ball when he was wide open and it wasn't a long pass. If they can solve Cassel's overthrowing tendency I think he could be serviceable.

He's a top 10 backup
but you'll never get them to admit it here

Cassel made some plays today, I even saw him step up in the pocket and make a throw! I think it was his first time. But, I'm still not that confident with him. I hope he gets better and consistent, but I'm not counting on it. But I guess he deserves some credit for 2 solid games in a row.

What? That is all people say is that he is a backup QB here....

You new?

I may be completely wrong (as I'm only going by my memory of the game), but I think Cassel threw that ball early as a defender was closing in. It could have been a much better pass, but I don't recall him standing in a perfect pocket to make the play.

QB position really comes down to confidence. Doesn't it?

I mentioned this previously, that is exactly what he needed. They're doing the right thing with him, and I like their approach in how they're bring him along slowly. I think it's crucial that he eases way into the position.

He has all the components in place to make him a successful quarterback. Great running game, solid defense, good coaching, etc.

Teams will be gearing up and game planning around our run game now, and I think that'll benefit him as it will open up the passing game. Running game is a quarterbacks best friend.

I'll cut him a break if that's the case, but it was still a case where the TD was the result of the receiver more than the QB. Like the Moeaki TD against SF.

But hey, a TD is a TD, so cheers to him on those plays.

He's currently ranked 9th in QB rating, just ahead of Brees.

One thing I've noticed about Cassel is, he seems more poised and comfortable in the pocket. Last year we all witnessed the opposite of that.

He seems to be improving. That's about as much as I'm willing to commit to right now. :D

Being a top 10 backup is not a slam
he'll make millions for years

It was a great play by Bowe. It's also a play where if it is underthrown (when he releases it), it could be a pick 6. I'd much rather him overthrow than underthrow in those situations.

Cassel played well today. That's 2 weeks in a row.
Weis is finally earning his keep. He's helping him play efficiently.
All we can ask for.

He looks to be more comfortable and has some zip on the ball.

Imagine if he could play like he did in NE a couple years ago with our running game.

Last couple games he has played better IMO.

Way less sacks, better passer rating (less INTS, more TDS).

You don't really have do imagine, it is happening. He didn't play AMAZING with NE. And, it was his 1st season. It would not be that hard to imagine him having a better season this season, which he is quietly doing.

Has anyone else noticed that we hardly ever do play action passes?

Is Cassel incapable of reading the defense after carrying out the fake or something? With our running game we should be doing play action passes all the time and it'e bothering that we almost never do. Has anyone else noticed this too?

Haven't watched the DVR yet but I was at the game today and it looked to me like he actually stepped up into the pocket today and took time going through his reads.

Of course the Jags defense is shit so it is grading on a curve. He has looked like a starting QB the last few weeks against bad defenses.

The guy can't make reads simply on dropbacks, and can only make a couple of reads from the shotgun, and you want him to turn his back to the D?

Aside from that, his play fake wuldn't fool Ray Charles.

Fixed your post

Well he is no Steve DeBerg

yep ... i think the throw was early not overthrown.


nice pick by terrance copper on that play too ... could receiver an Oscar for that performance. LMAO

Why Cassel Made Me Smile

I couldn't tell at the stadium, but after watching the highlights...
It did do my heart good to see Cassel mixing it up after Battle took that late hit.

He'll fight for his guys. Gotta love that.

You're right on IMO.

Cassel looks miles and miles better than he did last year. He doesn't give up huge sacks. He SEEMS to be more confident and that is doing him some good. He is playing with better timing with the backs out of the backfield. You see more and more passes, while short are right on.

BUT those two deep passes to Bowe, while were caught and scored, were ****ing terrible. I can't believe Bowe was so wide open both times, but props to Bowe for making plays. And GOD DAMN IT. He can't seem to find open guys.

I like it. And I also was ecstatic that "good guy" Brian Waters was trying to tear some San Doucher defensive player's head off. I don't want out of control, but I want some intensity and pride out there. Herm ****ing killed it. Herm ****ing made this team soft, apathetic bitches. I'm glad to see it back.

The first pass to Bowe was not bad. It was to the open space in the zone and placed where it had to be. People have to remember that Cassel is not a gun-slinger and therefore is not going to have the "rythm" better QB's have simply because he doesn't throw the ball enough. It's sort of like bringing in a pinch hitter and expecting him to hit a homerun when he hasn't had any AB's all game.

Don't look now but as of October 24, Cassel has the 9th best QB rating in the NFL....not the AFC....but the NFL!

Yeah, he may never be a top tier QB, but he has minimized his mistakes this year, and it's hard to argue with results.

Maybe the Chiefs can draft Blaine Gabbert next year? :)

arrow pointing up.

Phillip Rivers is 2-5 witht he #1 defense to aid him.

I wouldn't want that for Gabbert. He'd get paid "too much" money, would be the #9 ranked passer in the NFL, would lead a winning team, and the fans would absolutely HATE him. Gabbert doesn't deserve that, IMO.

Dude, you missed the whole point of my post. I ****ing know when the playoffs start. It's been 17 years since we won a ****ing playoff game and that was JOE ****ING MONTANA. Well rehash QBs have not worked for us to win playoff games in 17 years and Cassel hasn't shown any thing more than what Huard has played or could do the year Trent went down. Huard had good games and he was praised but it didn't take long for him to show that he was nothing more than a over rated back up QB. I can admit Cassel had a decent game today, Bouman had a decent game exept his Ints so what. I don't trust Cassel to get us a playoff win this year and he wont take us very far unless he plays like he gets paid 63,000,000 and so far this season he has not.

Cassel still leads WRs out to get killed. I believe that Copper would have gotten devistated when he went up for that ball if it wearnt for the rules this weekend being inforced. The defender didn't want to get find but he could have separated the ball from Copper. I have no reason to care about Cassel unless he wins us a playoff game & shows that he can get us to the big big game. We still have plenty of games to go and I am rooting for the Chiefs to win big every week & hoping our QB takes off & becomes the guy he is getting paid to be. None the less I want us to draft QBotf regardless.

I'l be happy to eat crow if Cassel can prove me wrong, just make it happen Cassel. Super Bowl or BUST with this guy! 40 years & I don't care about any thing else. The average QB of the Chiefs has been about 2 and a half years palying for the Chiefs in the last 20 years one playoff game win. That's what we get with rehash back up QBs. print it. Trent Green lasted the longest.

his accuracy sucks but he has gotten a lot better standing in the pocket and making the right read. He puts out receivers on Sportscenters top 10 a little too much though

try this

http://av.vet.ksu.edu/flash/8ball/

The last couple games, yes. Those teams, where are they ranked in pass D? Just shut the **** up.

Also Cassel is 30th in passing yards,21st in completion percentage and 13th in TDs, wow that's not for the AFC but the entire NFL too!!!!!!!!

I like how Cassel has played the last couple weeks, but I'm not confident he can repeat these type of performances against better defenses

I stated before the Houston game that the next five games including the Texans game would mind **** this fan base when Cassel plays well against some of the worst pass Ds in the league. He's playing much better. I definitely not sold, but he still has a chance to prove himself. Crazier things have happened. We'll see

Cassel's deceptively high QB rating is a product of him successfully avoiding major f***-ups. His accuracy and passing yards are still not great.

He's still kinda young and maybe he'll improve with more experience, but right now he's probably one of the best backup QB's in the league. Thats not a bad thing either, look at this glass half-full: imagine we had our hypothetical young stud QBOTF and he suffers a season-ending injury in the preseason. After freaking out we look at Cassel, one of the best backups in the NFL, and think "well, at least we have a good backup, he won't win us any games, but he probably wont lose it either and gives the rest of the team a chance to make plays."

We are averaging 177 yards per game rushing.

17 per game more than the next closest team in the league.

We have already had our bye week as well, so that yardage one is somewhat unfair...he tied with Kevin Kolb at 19th overall in yards per attempt and that number has gone up every week as well.

His completion percentage will improve over the course of the year as well.

It feels weird to be defending the guy I have hated since day -1, but that is what keeps some of us objective.

Lets just hope that these games (and the next few) against below average defenses will give him some confidence that carries over when we play some better defenses.

I think the more the guy trusts the things around him (the line not to get him killed, his receivers to catch the ball, his coaching in teaching him things that are helping him in games, his running game to continue to give him opertunities to exploit single coverage) the more he will grow into the role of what we want him to do in this offense and the more Weis will put on his plate.

He is being taught to be a game manager right now, hopefully after he is exactly that, he will continue to grow into a larger role.

Time will tell, as usual.

I honestly thought people would be able to see things in perspective. It boggles my mind when Pawntard opens his yap with the "I TOLD YOU SO!" comments.

He still sucks!!!! LOL!

your stats are as not accurate

you right nice well

i'm no cassel fan, but i am happy that he is "managing the games" and not LOSING them for us. We could easily be undefeated right now and the losses haven't been due to a major league screw up on his part!

It must've changed because, that's what his sheet said with his stat output on NFL.com when I posted it

Cassel is 30th in the league in total pass yardage per game at 168.5, 21st in passing percentage with 59.5 , 13th in TDs with 9

If he wins a playoff game this year will you STFU?

Yup. One thing you learn over time is that there are some fans so hell bent on hating a guy that they will refuse to give any shred of credit. Same shit I went through with Herm two years ago.

I like what you're doing here. I don't like Cassel either, but I'm willing to admit that the past two games, he's looked at least middle of the road. Still not good enough and I want to see him do it against a real defense, but he's doing some things a hell of a lot better, so props on that.

Cassel is doing what he is asked to do, in this order:

#1 don't turn it over
#2 don't take a sack
#3 hand it off
#4 select down field shots that are set up by a dominant run game

props to him, weis, and haley....don't try to be what you aren't, don't try to do what you can't...

we'll win the afc west and 10-11 games if he keeps this up...

my opinion on the guy is known, but if he successfully does what he can all I can do is enjoy it and worry about the position next year...

i love our coaching staff by the way....with all my boners

By the way, Chiefs were 9/16 on 3rd downs against Houston and 6/11 Sunday.

Making big strides on 3rd down efficiency. VERY big strides. And I think Moeaki and McCluster were very big parts of that efficiency.

Cassel is on pace for right around 3K yards and 24 TD's.

If that happens I am telling you there is no way he isn't our starting QB next season.

Second, playing at a high level is about confidence. Even if Cassel gets better against bad secondaries, sometimes that helps a guys confidence in his ability. and then he plays better against better defenses.

Either way, if Cassel is what we've got then I hope he continues to improve. If he doesn't, we will replace him. If he does continue to improve then the team gets better and we win the division and get a home playoff game. I don't see a downside.

Cassel has a lot to improve. The good news is, we're starting to see progress. And if he continues that progress, maybe he becomes good enough to be the starter for next season. I think he's secured the role, at least, of backup on a severely reduced salary next season. I don't think he's come close to proving just yet that he's their QBOTF.

Cassel is going to be our QB for 4 years....that was predicted before the season by many and is coming true...Weis is doing exactly what he was brought in to do, and doing it well

they are not going to get rid of a guy who ends the season with 85+ QB rating, regardless of the means in which it was achieved...


but this is a thread for praise...so I'll leave now without comment about the future...

WEll if he ends the year with a 85+ rating and 24 TD's I have a feeling that we won a playoff game or at least made the playoffs and you'd be hard to justify letting go of a guy that did that. And again, I am all for replacing Cassel as much as the next guy, but if keeps improving at this pace it'd be hard to find a reason to replace him.

It was an interesting game for the offense, that's for sure. Cassel's throws were over, under, high, low, up, down, do the shimmy shake, and fist pump all the way home.

Stats-wise, we did some things, though.

1. We were 4 for 4 in the red zone.
2. Never attempted a field goal. (Even though we had the one, golden opportunity).
3. We were penalized 7 times for almost a hundred yards and overcame it.
4. Our average gain per passing attempt was 10 yards.
5. Average gain per offensive play was 7 yards. (I'd like to see us keep this up.)
6. After that first series that sucked, we picked it up on 1st down and had quite a few 7 and 8 yard gains on 1st and 10 via the rush.
7. Partially due to our 1st down efficiency, we converted 54% of our third downs.

FAX

If someone said that Cassel would be 9th in QB rating and the Chiefs would be 4-2 after 7 weeks, all of you would have jumped at that chance.

I'm happy with the progress. He's clearly the weakest link now and it's not sinking us. I would like to see some screen passes to loosen the defense up more, but for all his limitations, he's playing fine football right now.