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Amnorix 12-09-2010 03:51 PM

Rick Gosselin's 2010 First Round Re-Do
 
Interesting.

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/nwsl...l.2cb2465.html

Here's got Berry going 12th now. The Chiefs taking Dez Bryant at 5 instead of Berry. Not sure I agree with that, but whatever.

Three Patriots in "new" 1st round. :D

Deberg_1990 12-09-2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 7243111)
Here's got Berry going 12th now. The Chiefs taking Dez Bryant at 5 instead of Berry. Not sure I agree with that, but whatever.

The Chiefs had soo many needs, they could not have gone wrong with either one.

Amnorix 12-09-2010 03:53 PM

Oh, and he has Tony Moeaki at 25 now. Missed that in my first glance.

Chiefspants 12-09-2010 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 7243111)
Interesting.

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/nwsl...l.2cb2465.html

Here's got Berry going 12th now. The Chiefs taking Dez Bryant at 5 instead of Berry. Not sure I agree with that, but whatever.

Three Patriots in "new" 1st round. :D

Meh, Two chiefs in the first round? I'll take it.

The Franchise 12-09-2010 03:57 PM

That 1st round redraft was ****ing horrible.

Chiefs Rool 12-09-2010 03:57 PM

I wouldn't trade Berry for Bryant

TheGuardian 12-09-2010 03:57 PM

**** that. Moeaki was a reach!

Brock 12-09-2010 03:58 PM

Say what? Dez Bryant doesn't know how to run pro routes!

2112 12-09-2010 03:58 PM

Hey, I dont think the Patriots are going to draft a TE this year. after drafting eleventy billion the last few years I think they have two keepers..lol

Amnorix 12-09-2010 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 7243143)
Hey, I dont think the Patriots are going to draft a TE this year. after drafting eleventy billion the last few years I think they have two keepers..lol

Finally.

But hey, you're a Jets fan -- how do you get to criticize anyone on drafting prowess, much less Bill Belichick?!?

You guys have more busts than a Victoria Secret catalog or the Louvre.

ToxSocks 12-09-2010 04:07 PM

Terrible redraft. And not very well organized either.

|Zach| 12-09-2010 04:09 PM

I think Rick Gosselin has a ton of high quality well thought out work. This is not one of them.

sedated 12-09-2010 04:09 PM

The headline is about Dez Bryant, and yet the entire article is about Tyson Alualu. These editors suck.

Just because a rookie free agent benefits from injury and suddenly racks up a few stats, doesn't mean he should have been a first-round pick. They shouldn't do redrafts until at least a couple seasons go by.

D-Train6906 12-09-2010 04:18 PM

What a moron.

Bob Dole 12-09-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7243171)
I think Rick Gosselin has a ton of high quality well thought out work. This is not one of them.

Bob Dole appreciated the reference to the "Hall of Very Good". Ed Budde is in the Class of 2010.

http://www.profootballresearchers.org/HOVG.htm

Priest31kc 12-09-2010 04:29 PM

No way I trade Berry for Bryant. **** that.

JD10367 12-09-2010 04:29 PM

Bryant's receiving average of 47 YPG is so low that if you go to NFL.com to check stats he doesn't even crack the top 50. (His teammate Jason Witten is 34th, and Miles Austin is 21st.) If you re-order the stats for YPC he's still not in the top 50. Go figure, a Dallas reporter sucking the dick of a Dallas Cowboy? Shocked. Isn't this the same guy who refused to carry pads, and has already shown to be a little on the fragile side? As Bill Parcells used to say, "Let's not start carving his bust for Canton just yet."

doomy3 12-09-2010 04:29 PM

I'd love to have Dez Bryant on this team.

googlegoogle 12-09-2010 04:47 PM

We had needs and berry worked out fine.

Who would play safety?

Sofa King 12-09-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7243135)
That 1st round redraft was ****ing horrible.

this




Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 7243211)
No way I trade Berry for Bryant. **** that.


and this

chiefzilla1501 12-09-2010 04:50 PM

If it's a "tie" between Berry and Bryant, which I think it arguably is, I go with the character guy 100 times out of 100

Hammock Parties 12-09-2010 04:53 PM

So we'd be paying Bryant an assload of money, and getting ready to do the same with Dwayne Bowe.

No thanks.

Saul Good 12-09-2010 05:02 PM

As bad as that re-draft was, the worst part of that page was calling the Pittsburgh win over Baltimore the most impressive victory of the season. It wasn't even the most impressive win of the week.

SAUTO 12-09-2010 05:08 PM

this draft sucked. earl thomas over berry? pouncey at 3?

DaneMcCloud 12-09-2010 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7243313)
this draft sucked. earl thomas over berry? pouncey at 3?

Earl Thomas has 64 tackles and 5 INT's.

Gerald McCoy has been decent but not dominating.

Pouncey has started since day one and is the Steeler's best offensive lineman.

Titty Meat 12-09-2010 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7243333)
Earl Thomas has 64 tackles and 5 INT's.

Gerald McCoy has been decent but not dominating.

Pouncey has started since day one and is the Steeler's best offensive lineman.

Yea Sauto is a moron this was a great draft.

Saul Good 12-09-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7243333)
Earl Thomas has 64 tackles and 5 INT's.

Gerald McCoy has been decent but not dominating.

Pouncey has started since day one and is the Steeler's best offensive lineman.

I agree with all of this, but Pouncey still wouldn't be worth the 3rd overall pick.

DaneMcCloud 12-09-2010 05:20 PM

Dez Bryant would have given the Chiefs a serious receiving threat. He'd eventually be a beast opposite Bowe and would have probably been far more effective with Haley & Weis than in Dallas with Wade and that whole mess this season.

Dez White & Nate Allen or Eric Berry & Dexter McCluster?

:hmmm:

DaneMcCloud 12-09-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7243352)
The only thing about drafting Dez is money.

You'd be giving him an assload of cash and about to give Bowe even more, most likely.

Either that or you develop Bryant and trade Bowe for picks.

Hammock Parties 12-09-2010 05:25 PM

I'd still rather have Berry. This team needed defense bad.

We could have had Berry and Boldin instead of that pipsqueak. That would have been ideal.

notorious 12-09-2010 05:28 PM

A Dallas writer sucking off a Cowboys player.....




GET THE **** OUTTA HERE!


:facepalm:

Gonzo 12-09-2010 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7243297)
As bad as that re-draft was, the worst part of that page was calling the Pittsburgh win over Baltimore the most impressive victory of the season. It wasn't even the most impressive win of the week.

I dunno. Any game Rapelesberger gets his snort-stick adjusted 90 degrees is a pretty good one in my book...
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Chiefnj2 12-09-2010 09:18 PM

All he's done is rank the best rookies in terms of productivity and placed them in order. Dez is a beast whose career is going to be either great, or he'll bust because of his ankle. He was the only bright spot on the team during Wade's days coaching.

RealSNR 12-09-2010 11:04 PM

Pat Angerer in the 1st? :spock:

I guess I could see that if you thought Mike Maslowski played like a 1st round talent

The Franchise 12-10-2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7243139)
**** that. Moeaki was a reach!

:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6708656)
Yup. Could have had all 3. But at least we got that tight end who had 300-something yards last year. Whew. That position is filled.



http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=227169

SAUTO 12-10-2010 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7243333)
Earl Thomas has 64 tackles and 5 INT's.

Gerald McCoy has been decent but not dominating.

Pouncey has started since day one and is the Steeler's best offensive lineman.

so a center is worth the #3? come on....


and i wouldnt trade berry for thomas

remember you have to watch the games not stat lines, right dane?

SAUTO 12-10-2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7243334)
Yea Sauto is a moron this was a great draft.

LMAO ok billay. when pioli takes our new center in the top of the first i dont wanna hear your idiot ass bitching.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7244685)

Thereerunian is basically Andrew Dice Clay....circa right now.

The Franchise 12-10-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7244755)
Thereerunian is basically Andrew Dice Clay....circa right now.

He's ****ing pathetic.

Reaper16 12-10-2010 01:02 PM

That is the worst football article I've read all week.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7244760)
He's ****ing pathetic.

Actually this board is ****ing pathetic with people who are jumping up and down jerking on their balls to a guy who is 0-9 as a starter for us Sunday.

Outside of that everything seems normal.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245016)
Actually this board is ****ing pathetic with people who are jumping up and down jerking on their balls to a guy who is 0-9 as a starter for us Sunday.

Outside of that everything seems normal.

Hickory dickory dock
The Tardian's mother guzzels elephant cock

Yooooooooo

*wraps arm around head to take a pull off of a Marlboro*

the Talking Can 12-10-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7244685)

LMAO

fake mma guy pwned

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245053)
Hickory dickory dock
The Tardian's mother guzzels elephant cock

Yooooooooo

*wraps arm around head to take a pull off of a Marlboro*

Tell me about defensive X and O's again Buddy Ryan........

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7245058)
LMAO

fake mma guy pwned

I've already told you, feel free to find out how fake I am big dog.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245060)
Tell me about defensive X and O's again Buddy Ryan........

I'm afraid it would go over your pompadour-styled head.

the Talking Can 12-10-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7243139)
**** that. Moeaki was a reach!

Quote:

Great. The ****ing Dolts took Cam Thomas. Awesome. Stupid fukcing front office.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=227169

fake mma guy on pioli

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245074)
I'm afraid it would go over your pompadour-styled head.

Except that the shit you spewed in that ****ing thread was laughable and ****ing wrong in every way.

You're a tool Hamas. And I'd slap the stupid right out of you.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7245075)

Yup. And I'm glad Pioli knows more than I do and gets paid for it.

DeezNutz 12-10-2010 01:47 PM

Shouldn't there be an ***official apology thread***? Aren't all those who criticized a selection that now looks promising obligated to do that around here now?

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245082)
Except that the shit you spewed in that ****ing thread was laughable and ****ing wrong in every way.

You're a tool Hamas. And I'd slap the stupid right out of you.

That a threat?

Titty Meat 12-10-2010 01:47 PM

Cam Thomas. Now theres a peice of shit we all wanted

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245091)
That a threat?

Does it seem like one ****tard?

the Talking Can 12-10-2010 01:48 PM

why don't the board rules about threats apply to fake mma guy?

threatening people is basically all fake mma guy does

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7245092)
Cam Thomas. Now theres a peice of shit we all wanted

He has more career sacks than Tyson Jackson. You gotta give him that.

Titty Meat 12-10-2010 01:49 PM

The Tardian.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245097)
Does it seem like one ****tard?

So, are you going to whip my ass or not?

Titty Meat 12-10-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245100)
He has more career sacks than Tyson Jackson. You gotta give him that.

Who's Tyson Jackson?

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245103)
So, are you going to whip my ass or not?

Is that what I said?

See you can't bait me into that.

Idiot.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7245104)
Who's Tyson Jackson?

I think he's a guy who went snipe hunting with a Yeti.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245108)
Is that what I said?

See you can't bait me into that.

Idiot.

I don't have to. You did it yourself.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245100)
He has more career sacks than Tyson Jackson. You gotta give him that.

How's Vernon Gholston's career coming there champ?

How is Clausen looking as a rook Buddy Ryan?

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245113)
I don't have to. You did it yourself.

No I didn't. heh

Reerun_KC 12-10-2010 01:52 PM

So much Fail in this thread...

the Talking Can 12-10-2010 01:52 PM

pawnsmoker is going to be heartbroken to find out that fake mma guy thinks pioli is an idiot....

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245114)
How's Vernon Gholston's career coming there champ?

How is Clausen looking as a rook Buddy Ryan?

Clausen is looking like how most rookie QBs on bad teams do.

Gholston is a bust. Shit happens when you make a lot of picks. Funny thing, for as bad as you want my pick record to be, and for as bizarre as that Gosselin article is, he has 3 re-picked 1sts that I got in the third or later in the mock.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7245117)
pawnsmoker is going to be heartbroken to find out that fake mma guy thinks pioli is an idiot....

hahahahahahahaha

Tell me again how much Matt Cassel sucks bro.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245125)
Clausen is looking like how most rookie QBs on bad teams do.

Gholston is a bust. Shit happens when you make a lot of picks. Funny thing, for as bad as you want my pick record to be, and for as bizarre as that Gosselin article is, he has 3 re-picked 1sts that I got in the third or later in the mock.

Clausen looks like complete shit. You had him going where again? Remind me......

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245127)
hahahahahahahaha

Tell me again how much Matt Cassel sucks bro.

Why would he have to? Your hypocritical ass was railing against him up until the garbage orgy in the middle of November.

Titty Meat 12-10-2010 01:56 PM

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/v...UADUANCARD.png

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245131)
Clausen looks like complete shit. You had him going where again? Remind me......

He did look like complete shit when driving his team for a win two weeks ago until his kicker stole defeat from the jaws of victory.

Generally QBs don't look like 2007 Tom Brady out of the NFL womb. I figured someone who knows so much about the game, or at least applying an ass buff to a section of pine, would know that.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245133)
Why would he have to? Your hypocritical ass was railing against him up until the garbage orgy in the middle of November.

Without a doubt. And when it became obvious that the guy was improving I recognized it. You see my opinion changed because I was able to actually watch the game and be objective about it. I don't have all of these stipulations.

Shit some people said they weren't sold on Jamaal Charles last year. That he had to do it again this season to prove himself. That's ****ing stupid as hell. But that's what you get with some dipshits on this board.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245139)
He did look like complete shit when driving his team for a win two weeks ago until his kicker stole defeat from the jaws of victory.

Generally QBs don't look like 2007 Tom Brady out of the NFL womb. I figured someone who knows so much about the game, or at least applying an ass buff to a section of pine, would know that.

OMG

You flat out won't admit wrong on anything. Like that soft cover shell you talked about when that shit was shot down easily.

Clausen has thrown 1 ****ing touchdown pass in the 9 games he's played in you ****ing idiot. ONE! With six picks to go with it, been sacked 19 ****ing times and has 8 fumbles!!!

And he looks like every other rookie QB? Get the **** outta here with this shit. Go kill yourself Hamas. Find a building, jump off it head first into a ****ing smart car. Get rid of two worthless things at the same time.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 02:01 PM

Bullshit. You're a chest pumping bandwagon-riding ****tard. One minute it's Pioli is great, then it's stupid ****ing front office, now it's Pioli's great. Same shit with Cassel. Take the prevailing wind.

Yeah, you don't have stipulations and preconceived notions. You just blamed the entire offensive demise last week on our ****ing right tackle.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245161)
Bullshit. You're a chest pumping bandwagon-riding ****tard. One minute it's Pioli is great, then it's stupid ****ing front office, now it's Pioli's great. Same shit with Cassel. Take the prevailing wind.

Yeah, you don't have stipulations and preconceived notions. You just blamed the entire offensive demise last week on our ****ing right tackle.

I blamed the offenses continuity on him. Yup. He had some dive killing shit and got owned all day. Tackles can do that very easily you idiot.

Tell me about that soft cover shell bundle of sticks......

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245158)

Clausen has thrown 1 ****ing touchdown pass in the 9 games he's played in you ****ing idiot. ONE! With six picks to go with it, been sacked 19 ****ing times and has 8 fumbles!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7148510)
Dude stats aren't everything. Which is why so many people here didn't appreciate Tamba for so long. Peppers has been REALLY good in Chicago regardless of stats.

...

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7245165)
I blamed the offenses continuity on him. Yup. He had some dive killing shit and got owned all day. Tackles can do that very easily you idiot.

Tell me about that soft cover shell bundle of sticks......

When teams don't want to get deep, they generally drop 3 or 4 DBs into a deep zone, giving up the underneath routes. As long as you don't force it deep into that zone, you gets gobs of yards and no picks, which is why the phrase "The Prevent defense prevents you from winning" comes from.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245172)
...

Stats aren't everything.....but uh they mean something. Clausen has 1 TD pass and 6 picks with 8 fumbles *****face. THOSE kinds of stats mean something.

Now stfu and go finish your juice box.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-10-2010 02:09 PM

This idiot is the epitome of every meathead stereotype imaginable. Go lay down in traffic, Lattimer.

TheGuardian 12-10-2010 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7245176)
When teams don't want to get deep, they generally drop 3 or 4 DBs into a deep zone, giving up the underneath routes. As long as you don't force it deep into that zone, you gets gobs of yards and no picks, which is why the phrase "The Prevent defense prevents you from winning" comes from.

:facepalm:

Except the donks weren't playing a prevent defense you dimwit.


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