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Tribal Warfare 12-23-2010 03:56 AM

Teicher: Chiefs’ Charles joins Titans’ Johnson among elites
 
Chiefs’ Charles joins Titans’ Johnson among elites
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Tennessee running back Chris Johnson was disappointed to learn the bongo drums he used as a prop after scoring a touchdown against the Chiefs two years ago have since been removed from Arrowhead Stadium.

“But I can’t be too disappointed,” said Johnson, who was fined by the league for his impromptu celebration that day. “That’s $15,000 more I get to keep in my pocket.

“I could say it was worth it. Any time you’re fined $15,000, it’s always a hard thing. At the end of the day, I’d have to say if I had the chance to do it again or if I could take that back, I wouldn’t take it back. I would still do it.”

Johnson will find a more formidable rush defense waiting for him Sunday when the Titans are at Arrowhead to play against the Chiefs. He will also find a Chiefs counterpart in Jamaal Charles who is threatening to take away Johnson’s unofficial title as the NFL’s most spectacular running back.

Charles is third in the NFL with 1,303 rushing yards or 36 more than Johnson, who is fourth. But Charles has 79 fewer carries than Johnson and a stunning 6.4-yards per carry average.

Both players are also heavily used by their respective teams as pass receivers. And they’re so close in their size (under 200 pounds) and abilities that the only thing separating them Sunday is the color of their uniforms.

“There are some similarities between the two,” Chiefs coach Todd Haley said. “They both came out the same year. We were out in Arizona and we were real interested in trying to find a back.

“They’re both obviously really fast. They’re built similarly. They’re explosive and quick. They’ve both got good hands. They both can do a lot of things for you.”

Charles is fast, but not as fast as Johnson, who ran a 4.24 in the 40-yard dash at the NFL’s scouting combine, an unofficial record.

“Man, that will be a good race,” Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson said. “Jamaal is a Texas guy, I want to say Jamaal, but I’ve got to give it to Chris Johnson, just a little bit. They’re both great backs. We’re going against Chris this week. It’s going to be a hard task to stop him, but hopefully, Jamaal has a better game.”

Chris Johnson saw the highlight of Charles getting caught from behind by St. Louis defensive back Ron Bartell on his 80-yard run last week. Johnson appeared to take delight in that event, chuckling as he was asked about it and saying Bartell never would have caught him.

But Charles may have caught Johnson as the league’s best big-play runner. Johnson rushed for 2,006 yards last season and talked openly of going over 2,500 this year.

In that light, his season has been disappointing.

“Every defensive coordinator is trying to stop me,” Johnson said. “Of course it’s going to be hard to do what I did last year.

“I wouldn’t say I’m having a bad year at all. If you look at me, I’m still up there (near) the top.”

Johnson had a midseason stretch where he rushed for more than 100 yards in just two of five games. He was the victim of Tennessee’s offensive collapse around him.

But Johnson is starting to come around just as the Titans’ offense is improving. With star wide receiver Kenny Britt returning from an injury and veteran Kerry Collins stabilizing the quarterback position, Johnson went over 100 yards in each of the last two games while the Titans scored 59 points.

Collins missed practice Wednesday because of a finger injury on his passing hand, jeopardizing his ability in Sunday’s game.

“He’s still the same back,” Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher said. “Our difficulties stem from the uncertainty at the quarterback position with the injuries and such. Teams are going to do whatever they can to shut down the running game. We were unable to effectively put the ball down the field for a number of weeks.

“We’re getting back to that now. His numbers are starting to improve. He’s still been effective. We’ve had a number of games where his carries were down because we got behind. We started a rookie quarterback at Houston and he got six or seven carries.

“It’s been a team situation as opposed to an individual situation.”

Johnson outplayed Charles in the Titans’ 34-10 victory two years ago at Arrowhead. Charles, who played little as a rookie, rushed for 17 yards and caught four passes for 26 more.

Johnson shared the featured back spot with LenDale White and ran for 168 yards, including the 66-yard touchdown in the fourth quarter that led to his drum-playing celebration.

The 2008 season produced a lot of painful memories for the Chiefs, who finished 2-14 and wound up losing their coach when Herm Edwards was fired.

Few memories were more bitter than the one of Johnson playing the bongos.

“I remember a lot of things,” Derrick Johnson said. “That part I tried to forget.”

clw001 12-23-2010 04:06 AM

“I remember a lot of things,” Derrick Johnson said. “That part I tried to forget.”

Tylerthigpen!1! 12-23-2010 04:08 AM

I wonder what made Jamaal go in the third round?

Tribal Warfare 12-23-2010 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tylerthigpen!1! (Post 7283225)
I wonder what made Jamaal go in the third round?

It seems like Charles may not be the brightest light bulb in the fair.

Thig Lyfe 12-23-2010 04:17 AM

I was at that game. Thiggy ran for a touchdown. I apologize to anybody who may have been in my "splash zone" after that one.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-23-2010 05:34 AM

I can't believe Bartell caught up to him. ****er.

beach tribe 12-23-2010 07:06 AM

When Johnson is no longer effective, Charles will still be hitting Homeruns, AND the Chiefs will probably win more PO games than CJ.

When i tried to say this earlier in the season, people called me stupid, and said, If you have a great player, you use him, and give him the ball more. So when you a GREAT home run hitter like JC or CJ do you think it's better to run him into the ground, or keep him explosive for as long as you can? Don't Know? Todd Haley does.
The argument I got was "RB grow on trees, you run them into the ground, and then find another one." Guess what people JCs & CJs don't grow on trees. If you get one, use it wisely.

KC_Lee 12-23-2010 07:28 AM

One item that nobody seems to see down here in Nashvagas is the there is no change of pace back to compliment CJ. The Titans don't have that big back that will bang it up the middle to get the tough yards. Johnson is a home run hitter back but unless you have a hole for him he won't break through a line.

MVChiefFan 12-23-2010 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7283231)
I can't believe Bartell caught up to him. ****er.

Charles was clearly cramping up by the end of that run. He had been having problems all game and you could see him start to slow around the 10 yard line.

InChiefsHeaven 12-23-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 7283307)
Charles was clearly cramping up by the end of that run. He had been having problems all game and you could see him start to slow around the 10 yard line.

Yep. And he laid there for a few minutes after the run. It was the second time in the game he cramped up, so I'm convinced that was the reason he got caught. A normal run like that for Charles is 6 points easy.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-23-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7283231)
I can't believe Bartell caught up to him. ****er.

The only reason he caught him is because he was cramping up. If you watched Charles right after the tackle you could see him trying to move his legs for a few seconds and couldn't.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-23-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7283425)
The only reason he caught him is because he was cramping up. If you watched Charles right after the tackle you could see him trying to move his legs for a few seconds and couldn't.

**** , I reposted !

Pants 12-23-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7283231)
I can't believe Bartell caught up to him. ****er.

JC started cramping towards the end of the run. You could see him slow down significantly. Under normal circumstances, nobody is getting Charles from behind.

DBOSHO 12-23-2010 10:09 AM

They shouldve kept lendale.

DaFace 12-23-2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7283231)
I can't believe Bartell caught up to him. ****er.

I'm pretty sure he was cramping up. Just in case no one has said that yet.

Skyy God 12-23-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 7283274)
One item that nobody seems to see down here in Nashvagas is the there is no change of pace back to compliment CJ. The Titans don't have that big back that will bang it up the middle to get the tough yards. Johnson is a home run hitter back but unless you have a hole for him he won't break through a line.

I couldn't believe they didn't sign/draft a back to fill the LenWhale role. Blount would have been great, but apparently the 2d punch was too much for the Titans organization.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-23-2010 10:38 AM

Menstrual Cramps........... Not Good !

ToxSocks 12-23-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7283231)
I can't believe Bartell caught up to him. ****er.

In case no one has mentioned it, Charles was cramping up at the end of that run.

ToxSocks 12-23-2010 10:45 AM

Oh, and **** you CJ for laughing at Charles. You're just jealous that he's taken your spotlight as the most explosive back in the NFL.

InChiefsHeaven 12-23-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7283591)
Oh, and **** you CJ for laughing at Charles. You're just jealous that he's taken your spotlight as the most explosive back in the NFL.

Let's hope he proves it this weekend!

Sofa King 12-23-2010 10:58 AM

i predict CJ has 38 yards rushing on 20 carries, and Jamaal has 314 yards on 22 carries.

jbwm89 12-23-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7283587)
In case no one has mentioned it, Charles was cramping up at the end of that run.

Exactly, CJ can **** off.

KC_Lee 12-23-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 7283609)
i predict CJ has 38 yards rushing on 20 carries, and Jamaal has 314 yards on 22 carries.

Charles; 175 yards on 20 carries, 1 TD
Jones; 105 yards on 15 carries, 2 TDs

CJ; 65 yards on 25 carries, 0 YD

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-23-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7283462)
I'm pretty sure he was cramping up. Just in case no one has said that yet.

This thread needs more Midol.

Molitoth 12-23-2010 02:13 PM

Chris Johnson is a cocky bastard, I'm not really a fan.

-King- 12-23-2010 02:26 PM

I don't know if its been mentioned...but Charles was cramping up at the end of that 80 yard run...

munkey 12-23-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7283231)
I can't believe Bartell caught up to him. ****er.

He was cramping...

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-23-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 7284010)
Chris Johnson is a cocky bastard, I'm not really a fan.

This. He's like the gangsta'-wannabe shit-heel version of Charles.


Damnit Charles; drink more G2!!!!!

LoneWolf 12-23-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7283452)
, nobody is getting Charles from behind.

ROFL

Not only is JC extremely fast. It seems that he doesn't like it prison style.


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