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cmh6476 01-04-2011 09:23 AM

Assuming we win, Foxboro or Heinz?
 
I'm not a coach or player, so fock off to anyone saying I may be looking past the first game, although I don't think anyone really would say this at this point.

Will you be rooting for the Colts or Jets on Saturday? We'll have our hands full with either Pittsburgh or New England. However, I kinda like the story line that would develop with our New England ties should we end up at Foxboro.

CaliforniaChief 01-04-2011 09:25 AM

As long as the Jets are alive, we have a chance to host the AFC Championship game.

Go Jets.

cmh6476 01-04-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 7319834)
As long as the Jets are alive, we have a chance to host the AFC Championship game.

Go Jets.

good point, but I don't really see the jets winning 2 games on the road, but I guess anything can happen.

Nzoner 01-04-2011 09:33 AM

If KC is fortunate enough to advance I'd much rather see them eliminated by NE because I have a friend who is a diehard Steeler fan and I would hear about it forever.

Yeah,I might not sound real confident in our team and I'm not,I'm extatic they are where they are but also believe they're a year or two away from being serious contenders in the tournament.

Here's to me being wrong :toast:

Brock 01-04-2011 09:34 AM

Since I don't think the Chiefs can beat either one, I prefer the Chiefs-Patriots storyline.

Hoover 01-04-2011 09:34 AM

I'd rather watch the Pioli Bowl

CaliforniaChief 01-04-2011 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 7319835)
good point, but I don't really see the jets winning 2 games on the road, but I guess anything can happen.

The Jets are one of the teams who could actually win out on the road.

Red Brooklyn 01-04-2011 09:37 AM

Easy schedule, be damned! We're back in the hunt with a much improved team, still on the rise. I'm going to enjoy being back. So, it's hard for me to look beyond this game.

However,... for the sake of the thread...

I'd rather play the Steelers than the Pats. Going to Foxboro would make a better story, and a win there would be about the best New Year's present I could imagine. Both teams will be tough. New England, though, might be impossible for our team to overcome.

Rooster 01-04-2011 09:41 AM

I say New England.

The Browns beat the Pats and the Chiefs beat the Browns. Seems pretty simple to me. :evil:

TimeForWasp 01-04-2011 09:57 AM

I say the steelers. We beat them last year.

KCUnited 01-04-2011 10:04 AM

Pitt has dropped 3 at home this year, NE is undefeated. I'd rather go to Pitt.

ClevelandBronco 01-04-2011 10:09 AM

Why, you little scamps.

The Bad Guy 01-04-2011 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7319844)
Since I don't think the Chiefs can beat either one, I prefer the Chiefs-Patriots storyline.

Agreed.

Mr. Kotter 01-04-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7319844)
Since I don't think the Chiefs can beat either one, I prefer the Chiefs-Patriots storyline.

Wow. Something from Brock I can agree with. :eek:

talastan 01-04-2011 10:26 AM

I think NE would be a more favorable matchup. Their run D isn't as stout as Pitt IMO. Secondly we have inside info on the mind of their coach; though the same could be said of Belicheck knowing Crennel/Weis's coaching tendencies as well. I think the NE game would be also a more favorable of a road game because Cassel will be much more familar with Foxboro and what to prepare for up there. Just my $0.02 and that said let's beat Crackmore before we plan for week 2 of the playoffs. :thumb:

jidar 01-04-2011 10:38 AM

I voted Pittsburg just because NE is a tad harder to beat at home than the Steelers are, but now I think I was wrong.

I think our organization probably knows more about what the Patriots do than the Patriots know about what we do. Yeah both teams should know each other pretty well, but I think we get the nod for knowing them... course they probably still beat us, but every bit helps.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-04-2011 10:41 AM

I voted Pittsburgh because it would mean we have a shot at hosting the AFC Championship game. If there is no hope, what's the point?

doomy3 01-04-2011 10:43 AM

I think we actually match up better with the Patriots. The Steelers were a few yards away from setting the NFL record for fewest rushing yards allowed this year. I'd rather take my chances with the Pats defense.

alpha_omega 01-04-2011 10:44 AM

I say NE. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. And...yes it would provide a good storyline too.

But...let's win a game first.

ClevelandBronco 01-04-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7319955)
If there is no hope, what's the point?

So you're not watching this week's game?

Old Dog 01-04-2011 10:45 AM

You lost me at "assuming we win"

DBOSHO 01-04-2011 10:56 AM

If we lose to baltimore you are banned from chiefsplanet forever.

JD10367 01-04-2011 10:59 AM

I voted Patriots. Obviously. :D

I was just realizing, if I can work it, I might get to see the Chiefs twice: two weeks from now in a playoff game, and next season when they come to Foxboro. :thumb: Hope some of you come out for either game!

Ralphy Boy 01-04-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by talastan (Post 7319932)
I think NE would be a more favorable matchup. Their run D isn't as stout as Pitt IMO. Secondly we have inside info on the mind of their coach; though the same could be said of Belicheck knowing Crennel/Weis's coaching tendencies as well. I think the NE game would be also a more favorable of a road game because Cassel will be much more familar with Foxboro and what to prepare for up there. Just my $0.02 and that said let's beat Crackmore before we plan for week 2 of the playoffs. :thumb:

This. That said, I hate looking ahead and rather than see us be the first team to go to the playoffs 7 straight times without a playoff win, I'll just be happy if we win.

wazu 01-04-2011 12:36 PM

Tough pick, here. Now that I think about it, though, the one player that scares me more than any other from these two teams is Troy Polamalu. For that reason I'm now leaning NE.

WebGem 01-04-2011 12:37 PM

I'm surprised there are so many votes for NE.

WV 01-04-2011 12:53 PM

ANYONE but the Steelers.....I have an irrational hate for those bastards.

Simply Red 01-04-2011 01:02 PM

ok, how about YOU **** off?

Hootie 01-04-2011 01:03 PM

I put a shit ton of money on the Colts (-2.5)...

what an easy ****ing bet

JD10367 01-04-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840 (Post 7320271)
I'm surprised there are so many votes for NE.

I think the tipper is the belief that the Chiefs would have an edge due to Pioli, Weis, Crennel, and Cassel having familiarity with Belichick and the Pats (not without merit). Also, I think people underestimate the Pats because they do it with guys with names like Danny Woodhead and Benjarvus Green-Ellis.

Pitt is an enigma, really. They seem to be a solid team, they have a great record, they won with and without the Rapist, their O-line isn't as good but the Rapist balances that out with his scrambling, they can run, they can throw, they can defend, they're well coached.... And yet, with all that, they won some games with underwhelming and unimpressive scores. They started off by beating Atlanta in Heinz, but by 15-9. They beat Tennessee, but by 19-11. They crushed Tampa, then lost to Baltimore by a FG (no shame there). Beat the Browns handily (28-10) but then eked out a one-point win over Miami, lost to the Saints by 10, beat the unimpressive Bengals by 6, got beaten at home by the Pats by 13 in a game that wasn't that close. Bounced back by crushing Oakland, then got pushed to the brink by the woeful Bills (winning by 3). Eked out a 3-point win over the Ravens (very good) and blew out Cincy, then lost to the Jets before blowing out the woeful Panthers and Browns.

Hootie 01-04-2011 01:07 PM

my rule of thumb is to never bet against the Pats or the Colts...

so I'll hold off from wanting to play New England until the last possible moment...

I'd rather face Indy @ Arrowhead for a chance to go to the Super Bowl in all honesty.

ceebz 01-04-2011 01:36 PM

NE. The Chiefs matchup better against NE, easily.

Old Dog 01-04-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 7320359)
I'd rather face Indy @ Arrowhead for a chance to go to the Super Bowl in all honesty.

If we faced Indy it would be in Indy.
The only possibility of the AFC Championship in KC is against the Jets.

Amnorix 01-04-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 7320266)
Tough pick, here. Now that I think about it, though, the one player that scares me more than any other from these two teams is Troy Polamalu. For that reason I'm now leaning NE.

Polamalu scares you more than Tom Brady? :spock:

Hootie 01-04-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 7320481)
If we faced Indy it would be in Indy.
The only possibility of the AFC Championship in KC is against the Jets.

oh yeah

I totally forgot WE ****ED OURSELVES IN THE ASSHOLE WHEN WE LOST TO OAKLAND

JD10367 01-04-2011 03:06 PM

I went to the Ravens/Pats playoff game last season. I've tried to block that memory. So if the Colts and Ravens win, I am NOT going to the Ravens/Pats playoff game.

If the Jets win (and, thus, it'll be Jets/Pats), I'll think about it. Probably 50/50.

If the Colts and Chiefs win, I'm telling my wife we're forfeiting the show tickets we have for that night (some Broadway thing on tour) and buying Chiefs/Pats tickets. :thumb:

RealSNR 01-04-2011 04:01 PM

We match up much better against New England than Pittsburgh.

Either one would be a long shot, but I'll take the Patsies. At least we would have a puncher's chance of winning a shootout. If it's a defensive struggle (which it would be... Pittsburgh is a VERY physical defense) we wouldn't last on the road

JD10367 01-04-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7320888)
We match up much better against New England than Pittsburgh.

Either one would be a long shot, but I'll take the Patsies. At least we would have a puncher's chance of winning a shootout. If it's a defensive struggle (which it would be... Pittsburgh is a VERY physical defense) we wouldn't last on the road

A lot of people think the "Patsies" will be an easy D. I think they might be proven wrong.

Yardage-wise, New England looks bad; the Patriots gave up 90 more yards per game (Pitt ranks 2nd with 276, Pats rank 25th with 366). But in PPG the Steelers were 1st (14.5) and the Pats were 8th (19.6). Not to mention the Patriots' D improved greatly as the season went on.

Points given up, by week and team:

1: 24 (Cincy)
2: 28 (NYJ)
3: 30 (Buffalo)
4: 14 (Miami)
5: bye
6: 20 (Baltimore)
7: 20 (SD)
8: 18 (Minn)
9: 34 (Cleveland)
10: 26 (Pitt)
11: 28 (Indy)
12: 24 (Detroit)
13: 3 (NYJ)
14: 7 (Chicago)
15: 27 (GB)
16: 3 (Buffalo)
17: 7 (Miami)

Now, granted, the last two teams are pretty bad and had packed it in. But it does say something that, in the first 11 games, the Pats couldn't hold ANYONE under 14 points, and in 4 of the last 5 games they held teams to single-digits. Just saying, the Pats' D may no longer be as bad as they look statistically. (The O, on the other hand, greatly outshines another O the Chiefs might face.) The Pats, IIRC, fielded the youngest defense in the league. (And keep in mind they played the last 4 games without Brandon Spikes, who makes them better.) Now that they've bought into what the coaches are selling, and have more game-speed experience, they're better than their numbers.

Brock 01-04-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7320916)
A lot of people think the "Patsies" will be an easy D. I think they might be proven wrong..

wut, it wasn't that long ago Pat fans were here poor-mouthing their defense.


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