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Hammock Parties 01-07-2011 07:51 PM

Report: Egotistical Charlie Weis and Todd Haley Often Screamed at Each Other
 
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/ar..._other/3925793

A head-scratching news item was revealed last weekend, just before Kansas City’s season finale against the Raiders. It was reported and then confirmed that Charlie Weis would be leaving his position as offensive coordinator of the Chiefs for the same role at the University of Florida. Because Weis was not ascending in the coaching ranks — and arguably descending going from the NFL to college — many people wondered what sparked the move.

The carefully crafted public relations message conveyed was that Weis was moving to Florida to coach along with his son who is going to be a freshman in Gainesville. I never believed that nonsense, as only a sucker would, but I still wondered what the real reason was. Well luckily I got to hear an interview with KCSP host Nick Wright on JT The Brick’s Show on FOX Sports Radio, and let’s just say Wright did not hold back. Check out all the information he offered that most people would be afraid to say:

Quote:

They bold-faced lied everybody. Todd Haley said it’s ‘bittersweet’ for me and that it’s purely family. That may or may not be true, here’s a few facts for you — Weis and Haley screamed at each other throughout the season. A handful of different players compared it to a bitter married couple. That’s a fact.

What’s also a fact, is that Charlie Weis is as egotistical, and worries more about who gets the credit than any coach I’ve ever been around. And it is not a shock to me at all that Charlie Weis left for Florida. You think the Chiefs wanted this [news] out? The Chiefs don’t let us talk to their players half the team. Charlie Weis let them leak it.

Instead of on Monday after the season ended before the playoffs, say ‘hey, this is what I’m doing, I’ll answer questions once, I’m done’ he’s never said a word about it. He let them leak it two days before the game and then Haley had to answer questions about it and Weis still hasn’t answered questions about it. … If that’s not a distraction, then distractions don’t exist.”
Whatever distractions they had last weekend surely have passed now that the Chiefs have a playoff game coming up. I’m not as concerned about KC’s playoff chances as I am about finding out the real story. The real story is that Weis and Haley did not get along and that’s why Weis is leaving. I don’t care what kind of rhetoric they spew; this is the story I’m believing, because the other one made little sense.

KCrockaholic 01-07-2011 07:53 PM

Oh Noes!!!!!!!!!!! Coaches have different points of view! Oh Noes!!!! 2 intelligent football coaches have different ideas...


And they... They, yell at eachother.

kstater 01-07-2011 07:54 PM

The guys source is Nick Wright. Only slightly more reliable than that other Nick.

Chiefaholic 01-07-2011 07:56 PM

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1ChiefsDan 01-07-2011 07:59 PM

This dude reasons like my kids when they were 6. I don't like THIS story so I am going to believe the OTHER story. Only thing missing was the neener neener neener.

WebGem 01-07-2011 07:59 PM

LOL coaches screamed at each other? Now coaches might even start screaming at their players too, God what is this world coming to.

Marcellus 01-07-2011 08:00 PM

Frauds!

chefsos 01-07-2011 08:01 PM

I don't know anything (other that what I read here) about Nick Wright, but I used to listen to JT The Brick and he was, although entertaining, generally full of shit.

And we're supposed to be surprised that Haley and Weis shouted at each other?

Coach 01-07-2011 08:02 PM

That ****ing Nick "I can't tell a goddamn ****ing difference between my ****ing elbow and my ****ing ass" Wrong is full of goddamn shit. He was the dumb**** that said that the Chiefs were in the brink of losing Charles.

Somebody needs to find that cockattentionwhore and kick him squarely in the GODDAMN NUTS.

FAX 01-07-2011 08:05 PM

ROFL

Nick Wright.

I want to sell that guy some real estate.

FAX

milkman 01-07-2011 08:06 PM

At the end if the day, who the **** cares?

He's leaving.
It's already old news.

All I care about is that they find a good repalcement.

KCrockaholic 01-07-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7330067)
At the end if the day, who the **** cares?

He's leaving.
It's already old news.

All I care about is that they find a good repalcement.

Haaaay.

We have a winner.

Coach 01-07-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7330067)
At the end if the day, who the **** cares?

He's leaving.
It's already old news.

All I care about is that they find a good repalcement.

Fair enough, just I'm sick and tired of that Nick "Assclown" Athan wanna-be Nick Wright thinking he knows practically everything about the Chiefs, when it's not even ****ing close. If somebody jacked him good, I wouldn't shed a tear.

Just Passin' By 01-07-2011 08:13 PM

Vic Carruci discussed the Weis situation while on WEEI today, and he's certainly a lot closer to Weis than Wright is. You can listen to it here:

http://audio.weei.com/a/36170303/vic...in-the-nfl.htm

You can avoid the intro and pick it up at around the 2 minute mark, if you choose.

FAX 01-07-2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 7330082)
Fair enough, just I'm sick and tired of that Nick "Assclown" Athan wanna-be Nick Wright thinking he knows practically everything about the Chiefs, when it's not even ****ing close. If somebody jacked him good, I wouldn't shed a tear.

I wish I had a list of all the crap that ugly bastard has been completely wrong about ... just the crap he's erroneously spewed over the last two years would be more than sufficient.

It would be fascinating to occasionally reflect on all the nonsense and it would also make a great email. Plus, it might help keep some of the more easily enchanted Planeteers from harming themselves every time he opens his pole hole.

FAX

LoneWolf 01-07-2011 08:15 PM

JFC. Have you ever held a job? People disagree at work all the time and many times those disagreements are heated and yelling is involved. You need to get out of the basement more often and actually interact with people.

FAX 01-07-2011 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 7330122)
JFC. Have you ever held a job? People disagree at work all the time and many times those disagreements are heated and yelling is involved. You need to get out of the basement more often and actually interact with people.

Sometimes I wonder why you are so alone.

This is absolutely true. When highly motivated, highly talented people work closely in the same environment and you don't have conflict, there's a problem.

FAX

-King- 01-07-2011 08:22 PM

Eh Nick called this from the beginning of the season.

BossChief 01-07-2011 08:26 PM

When Weis got hired (maybe when it was just rumored that he would be highly considered for the job) Haley talked about how the two had serious arguments while working together in the same room with Charlie for the Jets. They were able to keep a collective while arguing and both were probably better for it.

Its a shame to see Charlie leaving after just one year (I still feel a little stabbed in the back by the move, if it were after 2 years it would have been 100% acceptable IMO) but hopefully it turns out that we had an opportunity to grab a younger version of him in many ways (McD) or to groom our own guy for the position (Siriani).

Coach 01-07-2011 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 7330122)
JFC. Have you ever held a job? People disagree at work all the time and many times those disagreements are heated and yelling is involved. You need to get out of the basement more often and actually interact with people.

I think the better question to ask Nick is, have he ever held a job? If he did, he would understand what he was spewing about then in a better sense. I agree with your statement that people disagree at work all the time, and sometimes they are heated and yelling.

To me, the way he's spewing this BS, it's like he saying that in the workplace, there shouldn't be any disagreements and if there was one, one unhappy ****er was gonna move on.

MichaelH 01-07-2011 08:26 PM

Of course it comes out after it's announced Charlie is leaving. Pleah. Media Scum

jjjayb 01-07-2011 08:27 PM

The same Nick Wright who 2 days ago said Bowe was out with and Ankle injury and not an illness. The same one who said the "ilness" was a smoke screen. That the Chiefs were lying.

The guys a douche bag who's always trying to make a story out of nothing.

Hammock Parties 01-07-2011 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 7330122)
JFC. Have you ever held a job? People disagree at work all the time and many times those disagreements are heated and yelling is involved. You need to get out of the basement more often and actually interact with people.

Jesus, all I did was post an article. This has nothing to do with me. Don't shoot the messenger.

philfree 01-07-2011 08:28 PM

Haley likes confrontation between his coaches. He as much as said so when Weiss was hired. In his mind it's healthy in respects to coaching.

:shrug:


PhilFree:arrow:

rtmike 01-07-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 7330158)
Haley likes confrontation between his coaches. He as much as said so when Weiss was hired. In his mind it's healthy in respects to coaching.

:shrug:


PhilFree:arrow:


Yeah, he said he didn't want a bunch of yes men.

splatbass 01-07-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

The carefully crafted public relations message conveyed was that Weis was moving to Florida to coach along with his son who is going to be a freshman in Gainesville. I never believed that nonsense
So Weis' son isn't going to UF next year? :doh!:

That really seems like a very logical reason for him to go to UF, I don't see how Wright can dismiss it so easily for a theory he has no evidence for except that Haley and Weis yelled at each other. It really seems to me that being at the same school as his son would be an ideal coaching situation for him, and I can see how he would want to do it.

LoneWolf 01-07-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7330156)
Jesus, all I did was post an article. This has nothing to do with me. Don't shoot the messenger.

Trust me, if I could shoot the messenger, I would. :evil:

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-07-2011 08:42 PM

Count Zarth has lost his burst...

The Bad Guy 01-07-2011 08:43 PM

"The Chiefs are in risk of losing Jamaal Charles" - Nick Wrong, September 2010.

MahiMike 01-07-2011 09:20 PM

If Charlie Saban gets us to the Superbowl, I'll forgive him. If not, he can die in a Florida smamp!

-King- 01-07-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 7330171)
So Weis' son isn't going to UF next year? :doh!:

That really seems like a very logical reason for him to go to UF, I don't see how Wright can dismiss it so easily for a theory he has no evidence for except that Haley and Weis yelled at each other. It really seems to me that being at the same school as his son would be an ideal coaching situation for him, and I can see how he would want to do it.

No he's going because he wants to be the only one calling plays. He didn't like that Haley was looking over his shoulder. He wants full control hence them yelling at each other.
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Boon 01-07-2011 09:27 PM

The OP's shtick is tiresome and old.
Shitlock wanna-be.

KcMizzou 01-07-2011 09:28 PM

Nick Wright is the source? LMAO

splatbass 01-07-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 7330300)
No he's going because he wants to be the only one calling plays. He didn't like that Haley was looking over his shoulder. He wants full control hence them yelling at each other.
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So the fact that his son will be there next year has nothing to do with it? :doh!:

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-07-2011 09:31 PM

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KcMizzou 01-07-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon (Post 7330301)
The OP's shtick is tiresome and old.
Shitlock wanna-be.

GC started this shit the same time he started using that new avy. Obviously, he made a conscious decision to be negative.

I have no doubt that he's hoping for a playoff win as much as anyone. He's just an epic attention whore.

LaChapelle 01-07-2011 10:31 PM

Nick: I only want to be your friend Mr Chiefs player
I won't be a liability to your meal ticket
you know the guy who shuts out the media like it's the plague

TheGuardian 01-07-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon (Post 7330301)
The OP's shtick is tiresome and old.
Shitlock wanna-be.

This X eleventy billion.

Coaches yelled at each other! OMG the world is coming to an end.

Tom Cable punched a dude in the mouth and we had people on here saying they wouldn't mind him as a coach.

Who the **** cares man? Haley has been the shit. Perfect? No. The shit? Yes. He's been the best hire and what this franchise has needed. A smart coach who has a chip on his shoulder, and wants to win. When you have team leaders like Tamba, Vrabel, Flowers, etc all talking about how great he is, then guys like Bowe changing his stripes and becoming a pro bowler, not much else to care about.

Haley is an offensive minded coach, so I don't really care about Weis leaving as much as I care about Romeo staying. Once we get Romeo a little more help this offseason this team is going to be one that no one is going to want to **** with.

mlyonsd 01-07-2011 10:40 PM

I'd think if Weiss got tired of Haley yelling at him he'd just largemouth bass him and have him swallowed in two gulps.

I saw enough O play calling to wonder if Charlie was busy sucking down BBQ instead of paying attention. Good luck on your new job.

the Talking Can 01-07-2011 10:47 PM

Haley fisted Carthon on national tv...what the hell do you think goes on behind closed doors?

HemiEd 01-07-2011 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7330067)
At the end if the day, who the **** cares?

He's leaving.
It's already old news.

All I care about is that they find a good repalcement.

Yep, and anyone that hasn't been on another planet the last five years, knows that Herm ****ing Edwards had set the bar on egos that nobody else can match.

LaChapelle 01-07-2011 10:54 PM

A couple of assistants about come to blows on the sidelines a couple weeks ago
They need to get some WWF training -break out some folding chairs and shit

mikeyis4dcats. 01-07-2011 10:59 PM

who's got the link the the presser a few weeks ago where Wright tried to insinuate to Haley that he thought Weis was the reason for his injured leg?

GloryDayz 01-07-2011 11:00 PM

Good, I hope TH hurt his leg kicking that fat SOB in the temple! He can take is SPED self down to Fla and put some slack in the umbilical cord, and cover up all his DA son's mistakes in the college ranks.

Rasputin 01-07-2011 11:25 PM

IIRC, Weis was hired to "fix" the quarterback. I think that mission was accomplished. OC & DC don't tend to stay with the teams for that long in the first place. Most of them move around and or get promoted to HC at some point. A Head Coach is hired to win games and usually last as long as the Ws are greater than the Ls. If a HC starts loseing games or dosn't show much sign of growth he usually gets the AX. (exeption Cenci Coach) This is the life of the NFL.

Weis has nothing to prove to any body, he has achieved winning Super Bowls. All he was asked to do this year was to help turn around a struggling franchise. He did that. He doesn't have to report to any body. Tod Haley is the Head Coach he is the one responsible for our success and he took his ego apart and hired Weis. Who gives a shit about Weis ego, if his ego was that big he would have wanted a HC job somewhere not to go to his sons college & be again a OC. Nick is just grasping at straws to come up with something controversial.

My bigger issue isn't Weis leaving, he can be replaced. This weekend I don't want to see our first three drives with TJ running on first and second down for two yards and putting Cassel in a 3 & long over and over again that don't get things going. That has been my biggest pet peeve for this season. Other than that we have played good most of the year and the players have responded even after a big ass kicking. 10 &6 playoffs KICK ASS after being in suckville since Dick Vermiel was HC.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-08-2011 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7330421)
This X eleventy billion.

Coaches yelled at each other! OMG the world is coming to an end.

Tom Cable punched a dude in the mouth and we had people on here saying they wouldn't mind him as a coach.

Who the **** cares man? Haley has been the shit. Perfect? No. The shit? Yes. He's been the best hire and what this franchise has needed. A smart coach who has a chip on his shoulder, and wants to win. When you have team leaders like Tamba, Vrabel, Flowers, etc all talking about how great he is, then guys like Bowe changing his stripes and becoming a pro bowler, not much else to care about.

Haley is an offensive minded coach, so I don't really care about Weis leaving as much as I care about Romeo staying. Once we get Romeo a little more help this offseason this team is going to be one that no one is going to want to **** with.

Rep.

CoMoChief 01-08-2011 04:33 PM

Well, I don't believe for one minute he's going to Florida to be with his son. That's just stupid. If anything parents get away from their kids when they go to college. He's gonna help coach as a freshman??? That seems a little odd unless he's just gonna be an errand boy or help w/ equipment etc. But CW's ego is too big for him to be working under his former subordinate. I bet within a few seasons he will be a HC in college again at a big school.

Either Florida is paying him much MUCH more than anything Hunt/Pioli would pony up for him, or he eventually wants to be a HC at the college level at a major program because it allows him to have almost 100% control on everything football operations wise/recruiting etc. He's got too big of an ego/resume to be a OC for a rebuilding NFL team. He wasn't going to stay here for very long anyways. I think a lot of us knew that. Think about good coordinators is that they're good coordinators for only so long - meaning that others want them, they're high in demand each offseason, so don't be surprised if Romeo gets another gig somewhere.

I'm sure Haley and Weis disagreed on some issues. Maybe even argued a little. But I don't think for once there were shouting matches and that CW wanted out of there ASAP because him and Haley didn't get along. If that was the case, he never would have come here to begin with. He didn't come to KC.....KC came to CW once his stint with Notre Dame was finished. He could have easily said no and I would bet another NFL would have given him a shot somewhere, but he wanted to (and I quote) "wanted to go somewhere and work with people he was used to". If that wasn't the case, he would have gone somewhere else.


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