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doomy3 01-10-2011 10:47 AM

Fescoe: Haley took playcalling away from Weis in 2nd Half
 
Just got a 610 text that says Fescoe is reporting that Haley took playcalling away from Weis in the 2nd half yesterday. That could explain why the playcalling was so horrific in the 2nd half, and if true I think Haley should be in some hot water. That was some of the worst playcalling I have ever seen in my entire life.

OnTheWarpath15 01-10-2011 10:48 AM

Not surprised if true.

Calling a toss sweep on 4th and a foot had Haley written all over it.

Sadly, that play call changed the game.

Imon Yourside 01-10-2011 10:48 AM

Hey if we had the Patriots offense it would have looked good, were not there yet as Haley has stated all year long.

notorious 01-10-2011 10:48 AM

OK


I am directing my fire to Haley if this is true.


JFC

Imon Yourside 01-10-2011 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7342391)
Not surprised if true.

Calling a toss sweep on 4th and a foot had Haley written all over it.

Sadly, that play call changed the game.

True that was the worst playcall of the game, run a 300 pounder up the middle on a quick count. No way they could stop that.

FAX 01-10-2011 10:49 AM

Have we not yet learned that 610 is always ... always ... wrong? Always?

There were shots in the second half of Weis in the booth rifling through papers and talking into his headset. Was he ordering a pizza or inventorying the china? I don't think so.

FAX

Simply Red 01-10-2011 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7342391)
Not surprised if true.

Calling a toss sweep on 4th and a foot had Haley written all over it.

Sadly, that play call changed the game.

yes, I don't know much about the play-calling gig, but even I realized that that was purely dumb.

doomy3 01-10-2011 10:52 AM

The pass patterns that were called were equally as bad as the 4th and a foot call. Slow developing deep patterns with receivers grouped in one area the entire second half.

notorious 01-10-2011 10:53 AM

I am starting to feel bad for slamming Weis. Maybe the guy got Hermcuffed in the second half.

Chief Pote 01-10-2011 10:56 AM

Please tell me that's wrong. Can someone get JWhit on the phone?

FlaChief58 01-10-2011 10:56 AM

I'm not sure WTF they were thinking on that play either. Pound the rock up the gut and keep the drive going. You're the #1 rushing team in the NFL, call the plays accordingly. If it was weis, then good riddens. If it was Haley, I hope we get a REAL good OC


Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7342391)
Not surprised if true.

Calling a toss sweep on 4th and a foot had Haley written all over it.

Sadly, that play call changed the game.


Discuss Thrower 01-10-2011 10:56 AM

Ladies and gentlemen, Scott Pioli would like to introduce you to your 2011 offensive coordinator, Maurice Carthon!

The Franchise 01-10-2011 10:57 AM

:facepalm: God ****ing damnt.

the Talking Can 01-10-2011 10:58 AM

this game was the pin being pulled on our grenade of a season....



no, i don't know exactly what that means

LoneWolf 01-10-2011 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7342388)
Just got a 610 text that says Fescoe is reporting that Haley took playcalling away from Weis in the 2nd half yesterday. That could explain why the playcalling was so horrific in the 2nd half, and if true I think Haley should be in some hot water. That was some of the worst playcalling I have ever seen in my entire life.

Fescoe is an idiot. I saw with my own eyes several times where Haley was talking to defensive players on the bench while the offense was on the field in the second half. If Haley was calling the plays, the TV announcers would have noticed him standing on the sidelines with his play sheet directing the offense like he did last season. I just finished watching the replay of the game and I didn't see Haley looking at a play sheet at all.

ChiefGator 01-10-2011 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7342395)
There were shots in the second half of Weis in the booth rifling through papers and talking into his headset. Was he ordering a pizza or inventorying the china?

LOL...

KCUnited 01-10-2011 11:01 AM

610's brand of Informed Speculation.

Pants 01-10-2011 11:01 AM

People should never believe Fescoe, KK or Wright, ESPECIALLY when the story sounds extremely controversial. How many times do they have to be exposed for people to learn the lesson?

DJ's left nut 01-10-2011 11:02 AM

Look - I'd love to get a pound of flesh from Haley on this one...

But when has Fescoe EVER been right about anything. Like....ever?

The sweep on 4th was very Wile E. Coyote/Todd Haleyish, but I still very much doubt that Haley fired Weis in a game we were trailing by 3.

Frosty 01-10-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7342442)
People should never believe Fescoe, KK or Wright, ESPECIALLY when the story sounds extremely controversial. How many times do they have to be exposed for people to learn the lesson?

But it's fun to fly off the handle over rumors.

DeezNutz 01-10-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7342395)
There were shots in the second half of Weis in the booth rifling through papers and talking into his headset. Was he ordering a pizza or inventorying the china? I don't think so.

FAX

Looking through his notes on Florida recruits, apparently.

If it's indeed true that Haley was calling the shots in the second half, it highlights the dire need for an OC. Haley can "contribute" to the gameplan, but on Sundays he needs to shut the **** up and worry about coaching the team as a whole; this is difficult enough.

FAX 01-10-2011 11:05 AM

610 is now reporting that the Chinese are invading. We're supposed to immediately strip to our under garments and jump in the nearest frozen river!!!

I always knew it would end this way. Good luck everyone. And God bless.

FAX

Imon Yourside 01-10-2011 11:06 AM

I don't believe Fescoe at all, he always riles people up just to drum up some juicy talk radio. That being said i like his passion for KU.

doomy3 01-10-2011 11:08 AM

Hey, I thought it was at least worth posting. You don't have to believe it, but this is a pretty big claim, as anemic as the offense was in the second half yesterday. And something definitely did change in the playcalling in the second half compared to the first. Maybe it is all just a coincidence.

Imon Yourside 01-10-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7342463)
Hey, I thought it was at least worth posting. You don't have to believe it, but this is a pretty big claim, as anemic as the offense was in the second half yesterday. And something definitely did change in the playcalling in the second half compared to the first. Maybe it is all just a coincidence.

You could obviously see after the one Horrible playcall on 4th and a foot the entire team fell apart.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2011 11:12 AM

getnickwright nick wright
So Charlie Weis is talking shit on the other coaches less than an hour after the game to random people at a pizza parlor? Sweet. Good guy.

TheGuardian 01-10-2011 11:12 AM

People are bitching about that sweep call, but the fact is, it would have worked if Weigman didn't get owned like a bitch. Charles actually had blockers in front of him and would have picked up a few yards.

I was bitching about the horrible play calling in the first half anyway. I didn't see any difference the rest of the game.

But this whole thing smells of bullshit. I'm not buying.

Chiefspants 01-10-2011 11:12 AM

Lol, k.

doomy3 01-10-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 7342470)
You could obviously see after the one Horrible playcall on 4th and a foot the entire team fell apart.

The playcalling was shit before that play. We came out and threw 3 straight passes to open the 2nd half. 3 slow developing pass plays with receivers clumped together. THat was after gashing them on the ground in the first half.

kstater 01-10-2011 11:13 AM

Let's look at this rationally.


610 throws this out there with whatevever "source" they think they have. They know Haley won't ever confirm or deny it. They get some attention with no repercussions. Regardless of truth.

Marcellus 01-10-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7342482)
The playcalling was shit before that play. We came out and threw 3 straight passes to open the 2nd half. 3 slow developing pass plays with receivers clumped together. THat was after gashing them on the ground in the first half.

I am guessing if he pulled play calling from him it was after the dumbass toss sweep on 4th down.

Molitoth 01-10-2011 11:15 AM

The playcalling has been dogshit for the majority of the year. There is no way that Haley started calling plays in the second half.

ps: 610 is a horrible source, what a joke of a station.

mlyonsd 01-10-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7342490)
I am guessing if he pulled play calling from him it was after the dumbass toss sweep on 4th down.

If Weis called that he can't get out of KC fast enough.

tooge 01-10-2011 11:17 AM

FYI, Bob Fescoe is one of the biggest radio tards I have ever listened to. His takes are either substanciated by fact, in which case he has stolen them from something written recently, they are homer driven, or they are completely false. He never comes up with anything worth hearing on his own. I'm guessing he is the classic radio sports guy that never played a down after the sixth grade.

kstater 01-10-2011 11:18 AM

The best part will be watching Whitlock run with this.

Kidd Lex 01-10-2011 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101 (Post 7342478)
getnickwright nick wright
So Charlie Weis is talking shit on the other coaches less than an hour after the game to random people at a pizza parlor? Sweet. Good guy.

LOL..It was late last week before the game, he also said fwiw they had a great week of practices...coach speak for "We're going to get our asses kicked."

KCUnited 01-10-2011 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7342504)
The best part will be watching Whitlock run with this.

More like a slow walk, almost a waddle.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2011 11:22 AM

if Scott Pioli is making haley take these coaches we got a real problem

tk13 01-10-2011 11:24 AM

I would actually believe it's possible after everything that's happened... but it didn't look like Haley was calling plays on the sideline.

Shaid 01-10-2011 11:35 AM

It doesn't say the entire second half, just the second half. Weiss could have called the plays until halfway through the fourth or until the last couple of plays. It sure makes it easy to piss people off though if you leave it up to them to assume whatever they want.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2011 11:40 AM

610 is running with this story lol it came from a pizza shop hahahhahah

Sure-Oz 01-10-2011 11:41 AM

Kinda like fescoe saying yesterday that Weiss never went to the locker room after the game and then retracted

gblowfish 01-10-2011 11:43 AM

Doesn't really matter at this point. Game is over. Let's move on.

KCUnited 01-10-2011 11:44 AM

The pizza part is believable.

tk13 01-10-2011 11:45 AM

I heard Weis walked into the locker room, did the Bernard Pollard dance and said "Screw ya'll, go Gators!"

Deberg_1990 01-10-2011 11:46 AM

Its going to be a loooooooong offseason with all these conspiracy theories....

TheGuardian 01-10-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7342582)
Its going to be a loooooooong offseason with all these conspiracy theories....

Haley ****ed Weis' wife last week and she took play calling duties from both Charlie and Haley.

gblowfish 01-10-2011 11:49 AM

Fescoe is a blithering waste of flabby, splotchy, pinkish flesh.

007 01-10-2011 11:52 AM

No wonder we looked like complete dogshit in the second half. If this is true then I want Haley gone. You don't do that shit in the middle of the game. There was no reason to bench Weiss at halftime. Now that I know Haley is responsible for that entire second half I have changed myopinion of him back to where I was when we hired him. POS

notorious 01-10-2011 11:53 AM

I am glad I don't get 610 or 810 out here in the wastelands. How can a station just make up random shit and get away with it?


Credibility (along with listeners) would be shit.

Sure-Oz 01-10-2011 11:53 AM

Lets all run with this cause Fescoe of all people reported it

jd1020 01-10-2011 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7342608)
No wonder we looked like complete dogshit in the second half. If this is true then I want Haley gone. You don't do that shit in the middle of the game. There was no reason to bench Weiss at halftime. Now that I know Haley is responsible for that entire second half I have changed myopinion of him back to where I was when we hired him. POS

You are pretty gullible arent you?

HemiEd 01-10-2011 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7342393)
OK


I am directing my fire to Haley if this is true.


JFC

x2

Probably the most depressing news in the last 2 weeks. ****!

Brianfo 01-10-2011 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7342608)
No wonder we looked like complete dogshit in the second half. If this is true then I want Haley gone. You don't do that shit in the middle of the game. There was no reason to bench Weiss at halftime. Now that I know Haley is responsible for that entire second half I have changed myopinion of him back to where I was when we hired him. POS

Use ur head. You honestly believe that drivel. Haley threw Weiss under the bus in his presser after the game about the 4th and 1 call. You think he chirps like that if he called that play. Thot so.

jd1020 01-10-2011 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 7342617)
Use ur head. You honestly believe that drivel. Haley threw Weiss under the bus in his presser after the game about the 4th and 1 call. You think he chirps like that if he called that play. Thot so.

I liked the ending of his conference when he was asked about the Weis situation. He looked down, backed away from the podium, and mumbled his answer into the mic as if to say "I'm done with that fat ****!"

ToxSocks 01-10-2011 12:00 PM

Damn guys. I know losing sucks, but please but your foil hats away.

007 01-10-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7342613)
You are pretty gullible arent you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 7342617)
Use ur head. You honestly believe that drivel. Haley threw Weiss under the bus in his presser after the game about the 4th and 1 call. You think he chirps like that if he called that play. Thot so.

:spock: Guess you both missed the part where I said "if this is true".

If it is true, that is how I will feel.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2011 12:08 PM

WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
Todd Haley, ladies and gentlemen. He just put his stamp on the game with 4th-down call. And trust me, that was all Haley.

DaFace 01-10-2011 12:09 PM

So...total BS then?

Sent from my Optimus S using Tapatalk.

007 01-10-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7342662)
So...total BS then?

Sent from my Optimus S using Tapatalk.

We will probably never know. But it does make some sense considering the entire second half made absolutely no sense at all.

notorious 01-10-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101 (Post 7342657)
WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
Todd Haley, ladies and gentlemen. He just put his stamp on the game with 4th-down call. And trust me, that was all Haley.

How does Whitlock know this?

Was Whitlock in the booth with Weis?


(Thank God there wasn't a stadium collapse that was TruTV worthy.)

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2011 12:11 PM

i dont have a problem with haley as the OC but the problem is chiefs just dont have the players to run haley O maybe that changes this offseason

Sure-Oz 01-10-2011 12:11 PM

The entire first half made no sense either...we got ****ing lucky charles busted one

Pants 01-10-2011 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7342662)
So...total BS then?

Sent from my Optimus S using Tapatalk.

No doubt about it in my mind.

HemiEd 01-10-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 7342433)
Fescoe is an idiot. I saw with my own eyes several times where Haley was talking to defensive players on the bench while the offense was on the field in the second half. If Haley was calling the plays, the TV announcers would have noticed him standing on the sidelines with his play sheet directing the offense like he did last season. I just finished watching the replay of the game and I didn't see Haley looking at a play sheet at all.

Thank you, it will be a few weeks before I can watch it again.

Rausch 01-10-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7342626)
I liked the ending of his conference when he was asked about the Weis situation. He looked down, backed away from the podium, and mumbled his answer into the mic as if to say "I'm done with that fat ****!"

Yeah, I find that funny as well.

Funny like "my team's HC just pissed in the face of two accomplished OC's in a row."

With this GM and Owner I'd kill for a Gruden or Cowher...

notorious 01-10-2011 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7342676)

Funny like "my team's HC just pissed in the face of two accomplished OC's in a row."

The pattern is starting to develope.


He has ran off 2 so far. When is he going to start getting the blame?

bobbything 01-10-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7342479)
People are bitching about that sweep call, but the fact is, it would have worked if Weigman didn't get owned like a bitch. Charles actually had blockers in front of him and would have picked up a few yards.

You know what else would have worked? Shawn Smith up the middle.

We had one foot to go.

This is the worst 3rd/4th and <1 team I've ever seen.

Dave Lane 01-10-2011 12:16 PM

When in the 2nd Half? Beginning, ending, half way? Serious dumbass reaction all over this thread. AND with no other confirmation than Fescoe, really?

Rausch 01-10-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7342682)
The pattern is starting to develope.


He has ran off 2 so far. When is he going to start getting the blame?

And both did a better job than he did.

Flat out.

Love the GM, Keep the DC, find a great OC, dump the Golfer...

Frosty 01-10-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 7342683)
You know what else would have worked? Shawn Smith up the middle.

We had one foot to go.

This is the worst 3rd/4th and <1 team I've ever seen.

The middle of the o-line is old/undersized. They are definitely not a power running team.

bobbything 01-10-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 7342689)
The middle of the o-line is old/undersized. They are definitely not a power running team.

1 foot. I mean, one freakin' foot.

007 01-10-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7342684)
When in the 2nd Half? Beginning, ending, half way? Serious dumbass reaction all over this thread. AND with no other confirmation than Fescoe, really?

If true, this is the biggest question. They are giving the impression that he pulled the plug at halftime.

Sure-Oz 01-10-2011 12:21 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ies-from-weis/

ITS TRUUUU111

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2011 12:22 PM

Speaking of Weis, Matt Cassel was on 810 WHB's The Program with Soren Petro on Monday and confirmed that Weis was still in Kansas City.

"We'll definitely get together for dinner," Cassel said of Weis. "I don't know when he's heading down to Florida. I'll see him today and we'll discuss that."

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 7342699)

he just going off 610 dumbass report

notorious 01-10-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 7342699)

Not confirmed yet. They were just quoting the radio guy, which is what we've been kicking around in this thread.


It does add up, though.

Pants 01-10-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101 (Post 7342703)
he just going off 610 dumbass report

I love all the reeruns commenting on the bottom. Here's a quarter, go buy a ****ing clue.

Sure-Oz 01-10-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101 (Post 7342703)
he just going off 610 dumbass report

Yeah i know...

Shan Shariff is pimping it on twitter

Frosty 01-10-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 7342699)

Well, if Bob Fescoe, Mike Florio and Jason Whitlock all say it's true, who am I to not believe it?





:rolleyes:


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