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mikey23545 01-28-2011 05:01 AM

Breakthrough promises $1.50 per gallon synthetic gasoline with no carbon emissions
 
UK-based Cella Energy has developed a synthetic fuel that could lead to US$1.50 per gallon gasoline. Apart from promising a future transportation fuel with a stable price regardless of oil prices, the fuel is hydrogen based and produces no carbon emissions when burned. The technology is based on complex hydrides, and has been developed over a four year top secret program at the prestigious Rutherford Appleton Laboratory near Oxford. Early indications are that the fuel can be used in existing internal combustion engined vehicles without engine modification.

According to Stephen Voller CEO at Cella Energy, the technology was developed using advanced materials science, taking high energy materials and encapsulating them using a nanostructuring technique called coaxial electrospraying.

“We have developed new micro-beads that can be used in an existing gasoline or petrol vehicle to replace oil-based fuels,” said Voller. “Early indications are that the micro-beads can be used in existing vehicles without engine modification.”

“The materials are hydrogen-based, and so when used produce no carbon emissions at the point of use, in a similar way to electric vehicles”, said Voller.

The technology has been developed over a four-year top secret programme at the prestigious Rutherford Appleton Laboratory near Oxford, UK.

The development team is led by Professor Stephen Bennington in collaboration with scientists from University College London and Oxford University.

Professor Bennington, Chief Scientific Officer at Cella Energy said, “our technology is based on materials called complex hydrides that contain hydrogen. When encapsulated using our unique patented process, they are safer to handle than regular gasoline.”

http://www.gizmag.com/breakthrough-p...issions/17687/

R8RFAN 01-28-2011 05:23 AM

and this is the very last time you will hear of this project...

007 01-28-2011 05:24 AM

never gonna happen

Mr_Tomahawk 01-28-2011 06:18 AM

Remember when they said...

bevischief 01-28-2011 07:31 AM

Time for a big boom to happen...

chiefforlife 01-28-2011 07:36 AM

Sounds to good to be true? I hope it is true, what a wonderful solution to oil. Being in the car repair business, this would be a perfect scenario.

Saulbadguy 01-28-2011 07:39 AM

Professor Bennington and CEO Voller are about to enter a world of shit.

tiptap 01-28-2011 07:56 AM

I sure would like the promise to be true but the article reassembles the parts of the technology that skips the realities.

Number 1 is what will be the source for the reduced Hydrogen. (reduce referring to the redox chemical characteristics). You will have to have a separate energy source to secure the Reduced Hydrogen even in a Hydride state. Water is not the energy source for reduced Hydrogen though it is a ready source for the material Hydrogen but in the highly oxidized state. The energy to reduce, split apart water into Oxygen and Hydrogen gas, has to come from something else. Solar, Hydrocarbon, Nuclear?

Number 2 the present Hydride they are compounding as beads that can be "poured" into a car does not meet the Thermodynamics or the rate of Hydrogen delivery to power an internal combustion engine. I think it is more suited to a storage process that can then be used to power fuel cells in production of electricity for electric cars except

Number 3 it isn't presently reversable so that it is a consumable product and therefore will have disposal problems

http://www.cellaenergy.com/index.php?page=technology

Bwana 01-28-2011 08:02 AM

Not going to happen, at least in the near future.

DMAC 01-28-2011 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7389168)
Professor Bennington and CEO Voller are about to enter a world of shit.

Exactly

Old Dog 01-28-2011 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7389168)
Professor Bennington and CEO Voller are about to enter a world of shit.

Or a very dark box under the ground somewhere.

Msmith 01-28-2011 08:31 AM

BP will just fork out 50 mil to buy the patten then case is closed.

Dayze 01-28-2011 08:48 AM

Riiiiiiiight.

Sofa King 01-28-2011 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7389102)
and this is the very last time you will hear of this project...

no shit. this idea will be bought out just like every good one before it.

teedubya 01-28-2011 09:08 AM

Money and Power are waaaay more important than the advancement of our civilization and getting us off of dead plant fuel. Am i Right? Am I right?

I like this though... $1.50 a gallon would be better on the old pocketbook than the $4-5 we are heading to.

Plus, imagine no more drilling for oil... oil spills... etc.

Frazod 01-28-2011 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 7389191)
Or a very dark box under the ground somewhere.

Right next to the researchers who discovered the cure for cancer.

milkman 01-28-2011 09:12 AM

This will be perfect for when they break out the flying cars.

Donger 01-28-2011 09:21 AM

Interesting. Where do these chaps live?

oldandslow 01-28-2011 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiptap (Post 7389177)
I sure would like the promise to be true but the article reassembles the parts of the technology that skips the realities.

Number 1 is what will be the source for the reduced Hydrogen. (reduce referring to the redox chemical characteristics). You will have to have a separate energy source to secure the Reduced Hydrogen even in a Hydride state. Water is not the energy source for reduced Hydrogen though it is a ready source for the material Hydrogen but in the highly oxidized state. The energy to reduce, split apart water into Oxygen and Hydrogen gas, has to come from something else. Solar, Hydrocarbon, Nuclear?

Number 2 the present Hydride they are compounding as beads that can be "poured" into a car does not meet the Thermodynamics or the rate of Hydrogen delivery to power an internal combustion engine. I think it is more suited to a storage process that can then be used to power fuel cells in production of electricity for electric cars except

Number 3 it isn't presently reversable so that it is a consumable product and therefore will have disposal problems

http://www.cellaenergy.com/index.php?page=technology

This.

Frazod 01-28-2011 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7389327)
Interesting. Where do these chaps live?

Oh shit. Donger's gonna get 'em. :bang:

R8RFAN 01-28-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7389299)
Right next to the researchers who discovered the cure for cancer.

or the miracle simple diabetes cure just around the corner

MahiMike 01-28-2011 11:03 AM

Why can't they make an engine that runs on natural gas? This country has 100 yrs supply of it.

Donger 01-28-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 7389517)
Why can't they make an engine that runs on natural gas? This country has 100 yrs supply of it.

We have engines that run on NG.

mikey23545 01-28-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Msmith (Post 7389222)
BP will just fork out 50 mil to buy the patten then case is closed.

Yeah, I'm sure they would spend 50 million to buy it and then sit on it instead of using it to bury every other energy company in the world and rake in billions in profits...

DaneMcCloud 01-28-2011 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 7389517)
Why can't they make an engine that runs on natural gas? This country has 100 yrs supply of it.

The entire Los Angeles Metro bus line runs on natural gas.

Simplex3 01-28-2011 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 7389517)
Why can't they make an engine that runs on natural gas? This country has 100 yrs supply of it.

http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-gx/

Bowser 01-28-2011 11:38 AM

I'm guessing Donger has no fewer than five .50 shells with "Bennington" scratched into them at the moment.

Halfcan 01-28-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7389292)
Money and Power are waaaay more important than the advancement of our civilization and getting us off of dead plant fuel. Am i Right? Am I right?

I like this though... $1.50 a gallon would be better on the old pocketbook than the $4-5 we are heading to.

Plus, imagine no more drilling for oil... oil spills... etc.

:clap: exactly!!

Consistent1 01-28-2011 12:16 PM

If the US focused on the ills of this country versus trying to run shit on a false level, gas would be pretty close to free.

bevischief 01-28-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 7389517)
Why can't they make an engine that runs on natural gas? This country has 100 yrs supply of it.

Over half the fleet of the government runs on it.

Donger 01-28-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7389588)
I'm guessing Donger has no fewer than five .50 shells with "Bennington" scratched into them at the moment.

Dispersant works on people, too. That's what I've heard, anyway.

Chiefs Rool 01-28-2011 12:18 PM

not gonna happen, ever. They'll probably be bought off or killed if true.

bowener 01-28-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Msmith (Post 7389222)
BP will just fork out 50 mil to buy the patten then case is closed.

$50 million, huh? Seems pretty low, but no, no. They might be reeruns that accidentally invented a new fuel and sell the patent for pennies compared to future earnings of hundreds of billions.

googlegoogle 01-28-2011 02:15 PM

bullshit article to draw stock/investment interest.

Ming the Merciless 01-28-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by googlegoogle (Post 7389999)
bullshit article to draw stock/investment interest.

I dont see them listed as a public company?

What is their stock ticker symbol?

Which market ?

chefsos 01-28-2011 05:18 PM

This is all well and good, but how long would it take to produce the zillion gallons needed daily? (Granted, one zillion is a rough estimate. Metric shit-ton, maybe?)

kysirsoze 01-28-2011 05:27 PM

Lot of negativity in here. I agree it's a long shot, but big oil has to realize it's days are numbered. If this tech is viable, who's to say BP (or someone) doesn't buy these guys out and pursue it on a large scale?


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