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Direckshun 03-02-2011 07:29 PM

A mock to kill some time.
 
Figured that's why this forum exists.

Some statements:

1. Hali, Carr, Edwards, Shaun Smith are resigned.
2. Wiegmann decides on another year.
3. This mock is more what I'd do for the team, less what Pioli would do.

On with the show:

1. OLB Justin Houston, Georgia -- I've already explained myself here.

2. WR Austin Pettis, Boise State -- I'll bet he'll still be on the board when we pick. NFL teams are stupid when it comes to WR speed and the combine. Pettis gives us a surefire #2 WR.

3. NT Sione Fua, Stanford -- I'm assume Powe is picked up first, which is fine. I think Fua is more geared to play three-downs anyway. And he's insanely high character for a nose.

4. WR Edmund Gates, Abilene Christian -- Phenomenal speed, one of the best at the combine. Pretty good size. He can develop a bit while we let him take about 10 snaps a game his rookie season. All go routes!

5. QB Greg McElroy, Alabama -- Game manager. Smart as shit. SEC. We all know this is happening at this point. The question is where Pioli spends the pick.

5. OT Richard Lapham, Boston College -- We have pretty good depth for our OL, but Lapham is a bonus in case Branden Albert goes down and we have to move Barry Richardson to LT. O'Callaghan can man the RT in a bind, which leaves us zero depth if either of those guys go down. Lapham is a bit stiff in his movement, but he has great size and I love BC prospects.

7. S Jai Eugene, LSU -- I think Eugene needs a lot of work, but he's a great size/speed combo coming out of one of Pioli's favorite schools to scout.

Direckshun 03-02-2011 07:35 PM

QB: Cassel, McElroy, Palko
RB: Charles, Jones, McCluster, Battle
FB: Castille

WR: Bowe, Pettis, Curtis, Gates, McCluster
TE: Moeaki, Pope, O'Connell

LT: Albert, Lapham
LG: Waters, Asamoah
C: Wiegmann, Niswanger
RG: Lilja, Asamoah
RT: Richardson, O'Callaghan

DE: Dorsey, Smith
NT: Fua, Edwards
DE: Jackson, Gilberry

OLB: Hali, Sheffield
ILB: Belcher, Mays
ILB: Johnson, Williams
OLB: Houston, Studebaker

CB: Flowers, Carr, Arenas, Leggett, Daniels
S: Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Eugene

jd1020 03-02-2011 07:38 PM

I'd rather the Chiefs went Sacc's route...

No C?????

DeezNutz 03-02-2011 07:38 PM

If we don't upgrade at center, either in the draft or FA, I'm going to flip the **** out.

Direckshun 03-02-2011 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7463181)
I'd rather the Chiefs went Sacc's route...

Yeah, three OL and two RBs. Virtually zero defense. Have at it, jd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7463182)
If we don't upgrade at center, either in the draft or FA, I'm going to flip the **** out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7463181)
No C?????

No center. I'd go high for a center in 2012. Wiegmann/Niswanger is fine center depth for one year. I can live with it.

jd1020 03-02-2011 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7463183)
Yeah, three OL and two RBs. Virtually zero defense. Have at it, jd.

No center. I'd go high for a center in 2012. Wiegmann/Niswanger is fine center depth for one year. I can live with it.

I've already posted my mock.

This one is just... wtf?

Pettis in the 2nd? Other teams wouldnt be stupid. The Chiefs would be stupid.

You like to overrate a lot of players, though.

Direckshun 03-02-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7463187)
I've already posted my mock.

This one is just... wtf?

Pettis in the 2nd? Other teams wouldnt be stupid. The Chiefs would be stupid.

You like to overrate a lot of players, though.

Before you break your arm patting yourself on the back for being the True Arbiter For Draft Analysis, take a look at your mock.

Martez Wilson is a first round pick. Of this I am sure.

Austin Pettis is probably low-2nd-early-3rd value. He will not be around when we pick in the 3rd. (WR is a curse this year. The few from big schools will be the ones everybody overrates. If you want to get solid value on a WR this year, you're going to have to pick any of the small school guys, which I did. That's where the bulk of the talent is -- if you can develop it.)

Iam Williams probably won't last until the 4th, but I'm not as certain on that... Teams get really weird when it comes to NTs.

And, well, Tolzien and Carimi suck ass. The only realistic selections I remotely like in your mock are Zane Taylor and Robert Hughes.

jd1020 03-02-2011 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7463193)
Before you break your arm patting yourself on the back for being the True Arbiter For Draft Analysis, take a look at your mock.

Martez Wilson is a first round pick. Of this I am sure.

Austin Pettis is probably low-2nd-early-3rd value. He will not be around when we pick in the 3rd. (WR is a curse this year. The few from big schools will be the ones everybody overrates. If you want to get solid value on a WR this year, you're going to have to pick any of the small school guys, which I did. That's where the bulk of the talent is -- if you can develop it.)

Iam Williams probably won't last until the 4th, but I'm not as certain on that... Teams get really weird when it comes to NTs.

And, well, Tolzien and Carimi suck ass. The only realistic selections I remotely like in your mock are Zane Taylor and Robert Hughes.

My mock? I dont have any of those players in my mock. Nice try.

Here you go...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7462306)
1) Torrey Smith, WR
2) Brooks Reed, OLB
3) James Carpenter, OT
4) Tim Barnes, C
5a) Delvin/Dalton/Stanzi/Enderle (which ever is still there, in that order)
5b) Chris Neild, NT
7) Anthony Allen, RB

This mock is based on where each player is projected to be drafted by many scouts, not my own fantasy world.

Torrey Smith and Chris Neild are probably earlier than they will be drafted.

Smith will probably end up in the back half of the first, so I reached a bit.

Neild will likely go in the 6th, and we dont have a 6th and we need a NT.

Direckshun 03-02-2011 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7463195)
My mock? I dont have any of those players in my mock. Nice try.

Hmmm... must have read that post wrong, then.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7463195)
Here you go...

This mock is based on where each player is projected to be drafted by many scouts, not my own fantasy world.

1) Torrey Smith, WR
2) Brooks Reed, OLB
3) James Carpenter, OT
4) Tim Barnes, C
5a) Delvin/Dalton/Stanzi/Enderle (which ever is still there, in that order)
5b) Chris Neild, NT
7) Do. Not. Care.

Bolded all the picks I like. Smith is a slight reach but like I said earlier, WRs from the big schools Pioli likes are slim picking. Barnes should be a solid 4th, and other than Devlin (people think lightning strikes in Delaware way too often) I'd be okay with any of those QBs in the fourth.

Reed won't fall to our 2nd, Carpenter is a huge misallocation of a 3rd that could be spent on another WR, a QB, a RB, an ILB, or a NT. Carpenter wouldn't even start.

And thanks for simply refusing to draft in the 7th. It's not like future starting quarterbacks are possible to find in the 7th.

I don't think your mock is horrid (or realistic), but before you go off on how Direckshun likes to overrate players, keep in mind this is a guessing game, look at yourself in the mirror, and then kiss my nutsack. :D

jd1020 03-02-2011 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7463206)
And thanks for simply refusing to draft in the 7th. It's not like future starting quarterbacks are possible to find in the 7th.

I don't care who we pick in the 7th because its basically a crap shoot of who can find the best UDFA.

If I were to pick any position to look at in the 7th I would look at RB's and not QB's.

jd1020 03-02-2011 08:14 PM

I edited my 7th round for ya.

Direckshun 03-02-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7463217)
I don't care who we pick in the 7th because its basically a crap shoot of who can find the best UDFA.

If I were to pick any position to look at in the 7th I would look at RB's and not QB's.

I'd pretty much just pick BPA.

milkman 03-02-2011 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7463183)
Yeah, three OL and two RBs. Virtually zero defense. Have at it, jd.




No center. I'd go high for a center in 2012. Wiegmann/Niswanger is fine center depth for one year. I can live with it.

There's a very good chance Weigman is going to retire before this upcoming season, and even if he doesn't, he didn't hold up well against the NTs he played against, and declined substantially as the season progressed.

A center in this draft, or via free agency if there is a free agent signing period, is an absolute must.

jd1020 03-02-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7463237)
I edited my 7th round for ya.

After searching Helu, he's predicted to go higher than 7th and as early as 5th...

So I'm going to change my 7th, again, to Anthony Allen, RB.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-02-2011 09:57 PM

It would be absolutely asinine if Helu even fell to the 5th.

jd1020 03-02-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7463534)
It would be absolutely asinine if Helu even fell to the 5th.

Ya. I use CBSSports' draft projections to get names and then I'll search them. They have Helu as a 7-UDFA. When I was looking at his report/numbers I was like, "Ok... No brainer. HIM!"

Then I started looking around and they are the only site that has him that low.

Everyone is pretty consistent on Anthony Allen though. He comes from GT, weird offense, he's big, doesnt shy away from contact, not too fast in a straight line, but his shuttle/3 cone times are right up there. I'd take him to replace Jones in the 7th.

DaneMcCloud 03-02-2011 10:50 PM

Yeah, you're right: You just wasted 30 seconds of my time.

Thanks.

googlegoogle 03-03-2011 12:39 AM

Wiegman is retiring.

Direckshun 03-03-2011 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7463623)
Yeah, you're right: You just wasted 30 seconds of my time.

Thanks.

As opposed to your other 31,000 posts, which I'm sure were valuable uses of your time.

I understand there's a fine line between being a douche and just being generally a stupid person, but you're hysterical.

keg in kc 03-03-2011 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7463272)
There's a very good chance Weigman is going to retire before this upcoming season, and even if he doesn't, he didn't hold up well against the NTs he played against, and declined substantially as the season progressed.

A center in this draft, or via free agency if there is a free agent signing period, is an absolute must.

The more I read, the more I'm convinced this probably isn't the year for getting a center. Unfortunately. Not a whole lot in free agency, and what looks like a lackluster draft class.

kc rush 03-03-2011 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7463178)
QB: Asamoah, Cassel, McElroy, Palko
RB: Asamoah, Charles, Jones, McCluster, Battle,
FB: Asamoah, Castille

WR: Asamoah, Bowe, Pettis, Curtis, Gates, McCluster,
TE: Asamoah, Moeaki, Pope, O'Connell

LT: Asamoah, Albert, Lapham
LG: Asamoah, Waters
C: Asamoah, Wiegmann, Niswanger
RG: Asamoah, Lilja
RT: Asamoah, Richardson, O'Callaghan

DE: Asamoah, Dorsey, Smith
NT: Asamoah, Fua, Edwards
DE: Asamoah, Jackson, Gilberry

OLB: Asamoah, Hali, Sheffield
ILB: Asamoah, Belcher, Mays
ILB: Asamoah, Johnson, Williams
OLB: Asamoah, Houston, Studebaker

CB: Asamoah, Flowers, Carr, Arenas, Leggett, Daniels
S: Asamoah, Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Eugene

FYP

Chiefnj2 03-03-2011 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7463945)
The more I read, the more I'm convinced this probably isn't the year for getting a center. Unfortunately. Not a whole lot in free agency, and what looks like a lackluster draft class.

They could use their 4th round pick on Brandon Fusco of Slippery Rock. He was the Division II lineman of the year and team captain.

By all accounts he showed a lot of improvement as the week went on at the Senior Bowl practices.

Monday Practice Notes: Fundamentally very sound yet really needs to improve his strength. Stays square and controls opponents but lacks the dominant base and at times was push back into the pocket.
Tuesday Practice Notes: A tough day was had by the small school prospect. Fusco was getting some stalemates against strong interior defenders, but he was not prepared for quicker opponents. He tried to overcompensate and was caught playing over his toes and reaching far too often.
Wednesday Practice Notes: Fusco has improved each day. While he was coached up about pad level once again, his timing off the snap was much better against higher rated defensive linemen. He was very strong in small areas and really bowed up against powerful interior defenders.
Analysis: Scouts were impressed with Fusco both on and off the field as they got a closer look at the Slippery Rock product. Coming from the Div.II level, the center admitted to being surprised by the quickness of his competition early in the week. He adjusted, continued to work very hard, and got better each practice. All good signs. His athleticism and ability to step off the snap also made him the best pure center prospect during the week (although the pivot class in Mobile was generally considered weak)

Ebolapox 03-03-2011 09:32 AM

mock you, mothermocker.

Chris Meck 03-03-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7463272)
There's a very good chance Weigman is going to retire before this upcoming season, and even if he doesn't, he didn't hold up well against the NTs he played against, and declined substantially as the season progressed.

A center in this draft, or via free agency if there is a free agent signing period, is an absolute must.

This. A thousand times.

Chris Meck 03-03-2011 10:20 AM

I kind of like McElroy, though, as a developmental project.

He's kind of a similar player to what Brady was in college.

Now, notice I said -IN COLLEGE. I'm certainly not comparing him to Tom Brady in the NFL.

And you gotta love the smarts.

DaKCMan AP 03-03-2011 10:34 AM

Don't like McElroy. I thought he was garbage in college and won't amount to anything in the pros. I always felt he was the weak link on Alabama's team.

keg in kc 03-03-2011 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7464272)
Don't like McElroy. I thought he was garbage in college and won't amount to anything in the pros. I always felt he was the weak link on Alabama's team.

Ditto.

Unfortunately he fits the profile for the kind of QB I think we'd look for to a tee.

Reaper16 03-03-2011 12:55 PM

Gates is going to go in the late 2nd, early 3rd. No way he lasts til the late 4th.

DaneMcCloud 03-03-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7463838)
As opposed to your other 31,000 posts, which I'm sure were valuable uses of your time.

I understand there's a fine line between being a douche and just being generally a stupid person, but you're hysterical.

What's hysterical is that you've become Voyager.

Or maybe you've been Voyager all along? :hmmm:

Direckshun 03-03-2011 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7464587)
What's hysterical is that you've become Voyager.

Or maybe you've been Voyager all along? :hmmm:

I don't know who that is, but I assume he was something who slapped his cock on you repeatedly throughout the forums.

DaneMcCloud 03-03-2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7465579)
I don't know who that is, but I assume he was something who slapped his cock on you repeatedly throughout the forums.

LMAO

Sorry to burst your bubble, Direcktard, but that would be a no.

I can't wait to read your next mock draft, which is due any day now.

Of course, after you've had more time to "study" on YouTube.

Direckshun 03-03-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7465759)
LMAO

Sorry to burst your bubble, Direcktard, but that would be a no.

Shame.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7465759)
I can't wait to read your next mock draft, which is due any day now.

Well then allow me to offer you a spoiler alert:

Spoiler!

Titty Meat 03-03-2011 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7463534)
It would be absolutely asinine if Helu even fell to the 5th.

I'll laugh at whatever team drafts him. I don't know how he ran a 4.3 really he's not that fast. Secondly he doesn't have the build to last in this league.


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