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Mr. Laz 04-13-2011 06:05 PM

Bad knee eliminates Mark Ingram from two draft boards
 
Report: Bad knee eliminates Mark Ingram from two draft boards

Posted by Evan Silva on April 13, 2011, 8:01 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.word...-pic.jpg?w=232 Getty ImagesAlabama running back Mark Ingram underwent arthroscopic surgery on August 31 of last year, just prior to the start of the college season. He missed only two games, returning on September 18 to thump the Duke Blue Devils for 151 yards and two touchdowns on nine carries.
Ingram would go on to average 5.54 yards per carry on the season, down from his Heisman-winning 6.12 mark as a sophomore, but still plenty admirable considering the stiff competition in the Southeastern Conference.
But there have been rumors that the long-term stability of Ingram’s knee is tenuous. And NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi reported something that may substantiate that speculation on Wednesday evening’s Path to the Draft.
“I’ve had two teams tell me the knee is very bad,” said Lombardi. “He won’t be on their boards. These are teams that need running backs.”
NFL Network’s Mike Mayock didn’t go as far as Lombardi, but did acknowledge Ingram is in danger of falling out of round one, where he’s so often projected.
“Even fully healthy, I have concerns about whether he’s a first-round pick,” said Mayock of Ingram. “I’m not so sure he’s going there.”
As usual, we’d caution to approach this information while keeping in mind the time of year. Misinformation is king. But this isn’t the first time Lombardi has spoken of potential long-range knee issues for Ingram.
“I think it could cause him to slip (in the draft),” he said on March 31. Lombardi suggested that Ingram may have degenerative arthritis, a condition that has been linked to Da’Quan Bowers and will likely cause the Clemson defensive end to fall on draft weekend, as well.

Chiefnj2 04-13-2011 06:33 PM

I despise the rumors that first round players have been removed from teams draft boards completely. Yeah, I'm sure teams wouldn't use a 7th round pick on a first round talent.

Bump 04-13-2011 06:58 PM

I would draft him in the 4th round with no complaints.

Bump 04-13-2011 06:59 PM

and this, ladies and gentlemen, is reason #2 players run for the draft as soon as they can.

notorious 04-13-2011 07:14 PM

He is exactly the kind of guy we will end up with.


Jones isn't getting any younger.


3rd round or later pull the trigger.

ChiefsCountry 04-13-2011 08:11 PM

If he falls to us in the 2nd you sprint to the podium.

notorious 04-13-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7562790)
If he falls to us in the 2nd you sprint to the podium.

I was thinking that, but I was worried about the backlash. LMAO


Dominate SEC RB, team leader, character guy.

Pioli just JIHP.

ChiefsCountry 04-13-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7562838)
I was thinking that, but I was worried about the backlash. LMAO


Dominate SEC RB, team leader, character guy.

Pioli just JIHP.

I would beat off like Hootie if we drafted Ingram. Him and Charles would be sick.

notorious 04-13-2011 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7562974)
I would beat off like Hootie if we drafted Ingram. Him and Charles would be sick.

He is a workhorse just like T Jones used to be.


In fact, he could slide right into that position and we would probably improve overnight. I just can't see us using a 2nd rounder on a RB.....oh......wait.

salame 04-13-2011 09:57 PM

he will go to miami

Phobia 04-13-2011 10:12 PM

<---- Ingram fan

Direckshun 04-13-2011 11:10 PM

Believe nothing you hear.

Bowser 04-14-2011 12:18 AM

So basically there are two teams wanting to draft Ingram very badly that they will say anything in an attempt to have his stock fall in hopes of drafting him at a reduced price.

RealSNR 04-14-2011 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7562990)
He is a workhorse just like T Jones used to be.


In fact, he could slide right into that position and we would probably improve overnight. I just can't see us using a 2nd rounder on a RB.....oh......wait.

Thomas Jones also sucked ass the first few years of his NFL career

The Franchise 04-14-2011 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7562990)
He is a workhorse just like T Jones used to be.


In fact, he could slide right into that position and we would probably improve overnight. I just can't see us using a 2nd rounder on a RB.....oh......wait.

How is he a workhorse?

The dude only went over 20 carries in 2 games this year. And he only averaged 14 carries a game over his entire career.

I'm not saying he's not talented.....but he's not a workhorse.

chiefsnorth 04-14-2011 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7562838)
I was thinking that, but I was worried about the backlash. LMAO


Dominate SEC RB, team leader, character guy.

Pioli just JIHP.

Why would we want to dominate him?

Brock 04-14-2011 10:27 AM

He was never worth a first round pick.

Demonpenz 04-14-2011 10:32 AM

Reminds me of Edgerrain James after the knee injuries.

Deberg_1990 04-14-2011 10:35 AM

Ron Dayne Part II

ToxSocks 04-14-2011 10:43 AM

There are a number of backs I'd rather have (Taiwan Jones, Daniel Thomas etc). I'd rather have another Charles, not another Jones.

And I might be one of the few who don't believe in this "Change of Pace Back" nonsense.

ToxSocks 04-14-2011 10:53 AM

GAWD...the more i watch and hear about Taiwan Jones the more i pray that the Chiefs find a way to draft him. My only fear is that he's gone by the time we pick in the 2nd. Rumored to be running 1.4s 10 yard splits.

imagine putting him in the backfield with Charles; McCluster in the slot. Draft Hankerson in the 1st to pair with Bowe on the outside.

Oh ****, I just jizzed myself. SOB. brb.

talastan 04-14-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7563941)
How is he a workhorse?

The dude only went over 20 carries in 2 games this year. And he only averaged 14 carries a game over his entire career.

I'm not saying he's not talented.....but he's not a workhorse.

He is not a workhorse but arguebly you'd get more out of those 14 carries than out of the 14-20+ carries that Jones had when he split with Charles this last year. Not to mention we might actually have a short yardage back finally.

buddha 04-14-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7563427)
So basically there are two teams wanting to draft Ingram very badly that they will say anything in an attempt to have his stock fall in hopes of drafting him at a reduced price.

This.

Ingram sure looked hurt at the combine, didn't he? LMAO

Seriously, some of you guys are so gullible. Yeah, I'd love to get him in the 4th round...hopefully all of the other first rounders will be there in the 4th too! ROFL

ToxSocks 04-14-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talastan (Post 7564174)
He is not a workhorse but arguebly you'd get more out of those 14 carries than out of the 14-20+ carries that Jones had when he split with Charles this last year. Not to mention we might actually have a short yardage back finally.

Short yardage backs are so overrated. Calling a back a short yardage back is just another way of saying he's not explosive.

Our short yardage issues have much more to do with our O-Line, not our backs. These bulldozer style backs went out of style 5 years ago.

The best backs these days have speed on speed, they cut and slash and explode through holes. They don't run up the centers ass ala LJ. Gimme another CJ, JC, AP etc.

Bewbies 04-14-2011 05:04 PM

Not that he's the guy I want us to take, but I don't think I'd be pissed if he ended up being our first pick.

Having 2 studs at RB would be a good thing, and drafting a RB in the 1st (right now) gets you a 5 year contract. Use, franchise, release. All his good years are gone.

Bump 04-14-2011 05:16 PM

first round? hell no
second round? sure I guess
third round? hell yes

kepp 04-15-2011 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7562790)
If he falls to us in the 2nd you sprint to the podium.

Absolutely. I wonder how many of these rumors are started by teams in order to position the players for themselves.

chiefsnorth 04-16-2011 02:26 PM

He could represent great value if he fell to the third round or so. Not likely, but with RBs being disposable commodities that is the highest I'd spend a pick on one...

Chiefshrink 04-16-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 7566402)
Absolutely. I wonder how many of these rumors are started by teams in order to position the players for themselves.

Precisely:thumb: Who are these so-called 2 teams?

JimBaker48.8 04-17-2011 10:38 AM

Good running backs are a dime a dozen. There's absolutely no reason to use
a first-round pick on a back when you can get a good one, a very, very good one in later rounds.


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