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Hog's Gone Fishin 04-15-2011 09:00 AM

Hog Farmers cum guzzling Chiefs Mock Draft
 
5 Days until the draft and here's where I am:

Round 1) DL Muhammed Wilkerson / Temple

Round 2) WR Leonard Hankerson / Miami

Round 3 ) C Chris O'Dowd / USC

Round 4) QB Ricky Stanzi / Iowa

Round 5 ) OT Jah Reid / Central Florida .Dude is 6'7" 327
5) WR Greg Little / NC State

Round 7) RB undecided

OnTheWarpath15 04-15-2011 09:01 AM

You should stick to boar jizz.

Aldon Smith in the late 2nd is ****ing comical.

phisherman 04-15-2011 09:05 AM

wilkerson in the 1st? aldon smith in the 2nd? i think you've got boar jizz on the brain...

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-15-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7566696)
You should stick to boar jizz.

Aldon Smith in the late 2nd is ****ing comical.

So the rest looks good ?

ToxSocks 04-15-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7566712)
So the rest looks good ?

lol

Saccopoo 04-15-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7566712)
So the rest looks good ?

Not really.

Round 1:
Wilkerson was your best pick, but he most likely will be gone by the 21st selection. He'd be a solid 3-4 five tech though.

Taylor is one of those guys that underachieved throughout his entire college program, never showed anything and decided to start playing at the Senior Bowl. Considering his questionable character issues and work ethic, I think he's a huge reach in the first round. There are solid nose tackles available later including Chris Neild, Jerrell Powe, Kendrick Ellis, Sione Fua, Sealver Siliga that don't have the question marks that Powe does.

Houston, while putting up 15 sacks in 2010, didn't do much else and had little impact on the game. He's a pure 4-3 dedicated pass rusher.

Round 2:
Aldon Smith won't be there when the Chiefs pick at 21, let alone in the second round.

Hankerson potentially will be there for the Chiefs. If he's available, it's a good pick.

Round 3:
Kris O'Dowd is toast. He's suffered too many injuries to his legs and doesn't have any power or explosiveness. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

We drafted Schilling last year in Asamoah. To burn another third rounder on a guard would be bad.

Despite the immense hard on that Detoxing has for Tawain Jones, the guy is far from a legit NFL prospect, especially to be considered in the top half of the draft. He's fast, but not elusive fast like Charles or Johnson, he's slight of frame, he runs completely upright (a la Harvey Williams) and he's played against lower level competition out of a spread offense which inflated his numbers. He's a special teams, split back three carries a game type of guy and we've already got that in McCluster. Waste of a pick for this team.

Round 4:
If Stanzi dropped past Round 4, I'd be okay with the pick. Round 4 and above, this team has too many holes - unless they felt that Stanzi had that certain something that would eventually lead him to be the starter on this team.

Round 5:
Jah Reid does not fit the zone blocking scheme that Haley runs. His butt is too high and he's a lunger versus a driver. I think he'll be a good pick for a power run team at this point in the draft and if he gets some good coaching, there's potential there.

Here's him against Georgia:
(And see if you notice Justin Houston in this game. I didn't.)
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ToxSocks 04-15-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7566887)

Despite the immense hard on that Detoxing has for Tawain Jones, the guy is far from a legit NFL prospect, especially to be considered in the top half of the draft. He's fast, but not elusive fast like Charles or Johnson, he's slight of frame, he runs completely upright (a la Harvey Williams) and he's played against lower level competition out of a spread offense which inflated his numbers. He's a special teams, split back three carries a game type of guy and we've already got that in McCluster. Waste of a pick for this team.

Not elusive fast? WTF? Are you kidding me? His upright running style, injury history and lack of elite competition are legit concerns, but the rest of your statement is non sense. This kid is an explosive athlete and he will make big plays at the next level.

McCluster is nothing like this guy.

Saccopoo 04-15-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7566916)
Not elusive fast? WTF? Are you kidding me? His upright running style, injury history and lack of elite competition are legit concerns, but the rest of your statement is non sense. This kid is an explosive athlete and he will make big plays at the next level.

McCluster is nothing like this guy.

He's a fast athlete. He's not an elusively quick running back. Put pads on the guy and he's a complete project that is going to get killed at the next level. He doesn't have the cutback ability of a Johnson or Charles and has simply relied on straight line speed against inferior competition in a spread system that's opened up the field for him.

Like I said, he's a special teamer that might intially make it as a return guy or a gunner, but his running style and frame are going to get him blown up in the NFL if you line him up in a backfield on a regular basis.

ToxSocks 04-15-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7566931)
He's a fast athlete. He's not an elusively quick running back. Put pads on the guy and he's a complete project that is going to get killed at the next level. He doesn't have the cutback ability of a Johnson or Charles and has simply relied on straight line speed against inferior competition in a spread system that's opened up the field for him.

Like I said, he's a special teamer that might intially make it as a return guy or a gunner, but his running style and frame are going to get him blown up in the NFL if you line him up in a backfield on a regular basis.

Did you watch those highlight videos? How can you say he's not quick? He runs very similar to Charles and Johnson. He makes one cut and EXPLODES through the hole.

Get killed at the next level? People need to throw that argument out the window already. There are tons of fast, shifty players who play at 195-200 lbs. He's the same freaking weight as Charles and still has room to grow. Like I said before, he's not an everydown back, no, But he would be incredibly explosive when used by commitee (which is what we do) with Charles and McCluster.

The amount of speed we could put on the field would be insane.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2011 11:02 AM

Dang dude. I don't think you've followed the draft very closely this year.

Okie_Apparition 04-15-2011 11:17 AM

The all idiot mock draft will rock. You just can't pick more than 1-1 1/2 rounds out of Kiper's grades. We will amuse those who do/or think they know about the draft. Fighting over who get's to destroy the AFC West will be first come first serve. I want to destroy the Jets.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-15-2011 11:53 AM

I picked Berry, Arenas and McCluster before the draft last year. So there. Well actually I was hoping for Berry but thought they were gonna pic someone else.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-15-2011 12:11 PM

I'm pretty sure Stanzi is the next Tom Brady and I'm sure Pioli knows that.

Bewbies 04-15-2011 01:29 PM

If we can get Aldon Smith with our 2nd rounder I literally do not care who we take with our 1st.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-16-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 7567027)
Dang dude. I don't think you've followed the draft very closely this year.


The draft hasn't happened yet, how could I follow it ?

Chiefshrink 04-16-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7566712)
So the rest looks good ?

For the most, but everyone else is correct about Smith. I have him going to the Texans with the 11th pick in the 1st rd because Phillips is going back to the 3/4 and runs a hybrid 3/4 / 4/3 and Smith would be a perfect fit opposite Williams. Talk about the reincarnation of Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith there you have it:thumb:

Chiefshrink 04-16-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7567109)
I picked Berry, Arenas and McCluster before the draft last year. So there. Well actually I was hoping for Berry but thought they were gonna pic someone else.

Mojo baby:thumb:

JimBaker48.8 04-17-2011 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 7570243)
For the most, but everyone else is correct about Smith. I have him going to the Texans with the 11th pick in the 1st rd because Phillips is going back to the 3/4 and runs a hybrid 3/4 / 4/3 and Smith would be a perfect fit opposite Williams. Talk about the reincarnation of Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith there you have it:thumb:

Were the Chiefs running their defense out of a 3-4 when Derrick & Neil were in KC together ?
And what's wrong with Hog farmers ? I can't stand prejudice, never could and just won't stand for hateful remarks towards Hog Farmers, won't tolerate it !

The Bad Guy 04-17-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 7570243)
For the most, but everyone else is correct about Smith. I have him going to the Texans with the 11th pick in the 1st rd because Phillips is going back to the 3/4 and runs a hybrid 3/4 / 4/3 and Smith would be a perfect fit opposite Williams. Talk about the reincarnation of Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith there you have it:thumb:

Except Mario Williams isn't playing outside backer in the 3-4.

BossChief 04-17-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7566696)
You should stick to boar jizz.

Aldon Smith in the late 2nd is ****ing comical.

While I tend to agree with you, a similar fall happened to Sergio Kindle last year and its not out of the realm to suggest Smith dropping a bit due to injury concerns.

The team that drafts him is going to be doing so almost strictly on hope he can reach his potential and his injuries will turn some teams off.

OnTheWarpath15 04-17-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7571668)
While I tend to agree with you, a similar fall happened to Sergio Kindle last year and its not out of the realm to suggest Smith dropping a bit due to injury concerns.

The team that drafts him is going to be doing so almost strictly on hope he can reach his potential and his injuries will turn some teams off.

If he were to fall past 21, a certain someone should be drawn and quartered on Lot G at Arrowhead.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-23-2011 07:57 AM

OK , Ive narrowed it down and updated. I need a RB for the 7th round.

Fritz88 04-23-2011 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7586175)
OK , Ive narrowed it down and updated. I need a RB for the 7th round.

Ingram should fall to the early 7th

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-23-2011 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7586182)
Ingram should fall to the early 7th

NOT !

Saccopoo 04-23-2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7586175)
OK , Ive narrowed it down and updated. I need a RB for the 7th round.

Need a sixth rounder as well. Chiefs pick at #199.

Fritz88 04-24-2011 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7586363)
Need a sixth rounder as well. Chiefs pick at #199.

The Brady lucky number. It is going to be a QB.
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