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Bugeater 07-15-2011 09:45 PM

Cast iron grill grates...are they worth the money?
 
I'm rebuilding a Weber gas grill I got for free off Craigslist a while back that some dumbass gutted and used for a charcoal grill. I see Home Depot has three different types of cooking grates for them, stainless steel, porcelain coated cast iron and porcelain coated steel. The stainless and cast iron are more than double the price of the steel, but are they really any better?

I know Fire Me Boy is a big fan of cast iron, but since it's porcelain coated just like the steel isn't it basically the same surface? What about stainless?

Thoughts? Experiences?

Pitt Gorilla 07-15-2011 09:47 PM

I love cast iron grates. They hold the heat much better and allow you to cook with far less fuel.

Bugeater 07-15-2011 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7751232)
I love cast iron grates. They hold the heat much better and allow you to cook with far less fuel.

Huh, I suppose that means they probably work better when I go out in the winter and fire up the grill in 10° temperatures.

Simply Red 07-15-2011 10:13 PM

Look, I'm a little confused by the OP, bug, Just don't play with fire once you get your plan in place.

LiveSteam 07-15-2011 10:14 PM

I have what you want,cast iron in the garage. I was going to cut them to fit in the firebox of the choo choo

007 07-15-2011 10:22 PM

Nope a grate is a grate.

























enter the grilling snobs..... :)

Bugeater 07-15-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7751262)
I have what you want,cast iron in the garage. I was going to cut them to fit in the firebox of the choo choo

Can you apply a porcelain coating to them for me?

Simply Red 07-15-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7751268)
enter the grilling snobs..... :)



YOU NEED TO DROP THE GRILL BRUSH AND BUY A GREEN **** EGG!

mikeyis4dcats. 07-15-2011 10:38 PM

cast iron hold the heat much better so when you throw that steak on there it still gets a nice sear without having to wait.

Simply Red 07-15-2011 10:40 PM

If I may say this here, charcoal still makes a damn tasty burger, last weekend at my girls house, we did up some burgers w/ provolone. Very nice touch, it'd been yrs. since i'd tasted a charcoal cooked meat.

Feels good man

007 07-15-2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 7751273)
YOU NEED TO DROP THE GRILL BRUSH AND BUY A GREEN **** EGG!

ROFL

LiveSteam 07-15-2011 10:42 PM

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I have 3 of them

They came out of a turn of the century brick bread oven

raw bacon diced up & mixed with a pound of hamburger. SO GOOD!

Simply Red 07-16-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7751299)
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I have 3 of them

They came out of a turn of the century brick bread oven

raw bacon diced up & mixed with a pound of hamburger. SO GOOD!

my god she's pretty.

arrowheadnation 07-16-2011 01:04 AM

http://www.mangrate.com/

Check these out. Heard about them on Mike O'meara show. They have "troughs" to catch the grease to avoid flare-ups.

Fish 07-16-2011 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 7751295)
If I may say this here, charcoal still makes a damn tasty burger, last weekend at my girls house, we did up some burgers w/ provolone. Very nice touch, it'd been yrs. since i'd tasted a charcoal cooked meat.

Feels good man

Whoa whoa....... Nobody and I mean nobody is saying that gas is the preferred method. It never was and never shall be. Charcoal/wood is the only way to properly cook meat if you want the full delicious flavor that was intended. Gas is for quick lazy cooking. Nothing wrong with that, but charcoal/wood is the method you use for full flavor.

As Kingsford says...... "Slow down and grill..."

RedandGold 07-16-2011 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7751401)
Whoa whoa....... Nobody and I mean nobody is saying that gas is the preferred method. It never was and never shall be. Charcoal/wood is the only way to properly cook meat if you want the full delicious flavor that was intended. Gas is for quick lazy cooking. Nothing wrong with that, but charcoal/wood is the method you use for full flavor.

As Kingsford says...... "Slow down and grill..."


I'll have to say that cooking on a Weber Genesis makes quick and lazy pretty enjoyable.

icepick64 07-16-2011 05:41 AM

I just got a weber q100 gas grill that has a cast iron grate and I can day it is awesome! Non-stick, even heating, I would say it depends on the difference in price, but they are nice.

Bugeater 07-16-2011 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7751401)
Whoa whoa....... Nobody and I mean nobody is saying that gas is the preferred method. It never was and never shall be. Charcoal/wood is the only way to properly cook meat if you want the full delicious flavor that was intended. Gas is for quick lazy cooking. Nothing wrong with that, but charcoal/wood is the method you use for full flavor.

As Kingsford says...... "Slow down and grill..."

Yep, 75% of my grilling is still done on charcoal. But I don't always have time for that, and charcoal doesn't work well in the winter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by icepick64 (Post 7751439)
I just got a weber q100 gas grill that has a cast iron grate and I can day it is awesome! Non-stick, even heating, I would say it depends on the difference in price, but they are nice.

$70 vs $30

icepick64 07-16-2011 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7751444)
Yep, 75% of my grilling is still done on charcoal. But I don't always have time for that, and charcoal doesn't work well in the winter.


$70 vs $30

I don't know if it's worth twice, but it is a weber so you'll have it for years...so go for it

SAUTO 07-16-2011 06:30 AM

I have a buddy that got me a bunch of stainless grating last year. Everyone I know has those grat es on their grills at this point.

You should have made this thread a couple of months ago. I could have hooked you right up...
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ILChief 07-16-2011 06:50 AM

My Chargriller Duo has cast iron (porcelain coated) on both the charcoal and gas sides (The grates are interchangeable). I love the cast iron grates.

Bugeater 07-16-2011 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7751459)
I have a buddy that got me a bunch of stainless grating last year. Everyone I know has those grat es on their grills at this point.

You should have made this thread a couple of months ago. I could have hooked you right up...
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What advantages does stainless have over cast iron? They're roughly the same price.

Fire Me Boy! 07-16-2011 07:56 AM

I looked for months to get plain cast iron (not enameled) for my grill. That's right. I'm hardcore.

Seriously, the stainless will do well, but the enameled cast iron perform better. They retain heat better and will sear better/faster. Frankly, though, I didn't want enameled because the porcelain is relatively easy to chip, and once chipped they're a pain in the ass.

I'd recommend holding out for real cast iron. These fit perfectly in my grill:

https://secure.lodgemfg.com/storefro...idProduct=3978

WV 07-16-2011 08:10 AM

I have un-coated cast iron grates in my Kenmore Stainless grill and they've rusted to shit. I basically have two sections I can cook on now and the replacements are $$$$$.

Chiefshrink 07-16-2011 08:23 AM

Also if you want your grill to last a long time get a cast iron or brass burner.

As everyone has said cast iron grates rock!

Bugeater 07-16-2011 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 7751496)
I looked for months to get plain cast iron (not enameled) for my grill. That's right. I'm hardcore.

Seriously, the stainless will do well, but the enameled cast iron perform better. They retain heat better and will sear better/faster. Frankly, though, I didn't want enameled because the porcelain is relatively easy to chip, and once chipped they're a pain in the ass.

I'd recommend holding out for real cast iron. These fit perfectly in my grill:

https://secure.lodgemfg.com/storefro...idProduct=3978

Interesting...those are the exact same size as my old grates. Although I'm wondering if those handles built into them are going to interfere with the lid.

And yeah, I don't quite get the coating, I would think if they were properly seasoned you wouldn't need it and would prevent the rust that WV mentioned.

SAUTO 07-16-2011 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7751474)
What advantages does stainless have over cast iron? They're roughly the same price.

In my case? Free vs money.

We welded up the grates exactly like we need.

Buddy works where they make shit for burger king, I think, and the grate was actually scrap. The missing pieces are what they use.

Works AND looks great.
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Deberg_1990 07-16-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 7751295)
If I may say this here, charcoal still makes a damn tasty burger, last weekend at my girls house, we did up some burgers w/ provolone. Very nice touch, it'd been yrs. since i'd tasted a charcoal cooked meat.

Feels good man

Yes this...i prefer charcoal to gas.

SAUTO 07-16-2011 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7751557)
Yes this...i prefer charcoal to gas.

Who doesn't?
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Fire Me Boy! 07-16-2011 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7751527)
Interesting...those are the exact same size as my old grates. Although I'm wondering if those handles built into them are going to interfere with the lid.

And yeah, I don't quite get the coating, I would think if they were properly seasoned you wouldn't need it and would prevent the rust that WV mentioned.

The handles don't interfere with mine, they're actually what hold it in my grill. Properly seasoned and if you take care of 'em, they work great. Add in the fact that if they rust, take some steel wool to 'em and fix them, then re-season.

CoMoChief 07-16-2011 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 7751295)
If I may say this here, charcoal still makes a damn tasty burger, last weekend at my girls house, we did up some burgers w/ provolone. Very nice touch, it'd been yrs. since i'd tasted a charcoal cooked meat.

Feels good man

YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!!!
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LiveSteam 07-16-2011 11:01 AM

I should never have gotten involved.

Bugeater 07-16-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 7751598)
The handles don't interfere with mine, they're actually what hold it in my grill. Properly seasoned and if you take care of 'em, they work great. Add in the fact that if they rust, take some steel wool to 'em and fix them, then re-season.

I don't suppose I could get you to measure the distance from the outer edge of one handle to the outer edge of the opposite one for me sometime? It looks like I may have a bit of extra room but not much.

What kind of grill do you have anyway?

Bugeater 07-16-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7751681)
I should never have gotten involved.

LMAO I haven't even asked you for anything. But if you want to build me a set go right ahead.

Fish 07-16-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedandGold (Post 7751428)
I'll have to say that cooking on a Weber Genesis makes quick and lazy pretty enjoyable.

I hear you. I grill with my gas grill when the occasion calls for it. I'm not putting down gas. But I always prefer coal when I can.

Fire Me Boy! 07-16-2011 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7751693)
I don't suppose I could get you to measure the distance from the outer edge of one handle to the outer edge of the opposite one for me sometime? It looks like I may have a bit of extra room but not much.

What kind of grill do you have anyway?

Outer measurements are 17x11. My grill is a nondescript Sam's brand. I use two of those grates, which doesn't fit perfectly width-wise because my grill is 26-inches wide, so I end up with a little 4-inch gap. It's never caused me trouble, though.

Titty Meat 07-16-2011 11:30 AM

Hey Bug save your money and buy my golf bag.

Bugeater 07-16-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 7751736)
Outer measurements are 17x11. My grill is a nondescript Sam's brand. I use two of those grates, which doesn't fit perfectly width-wise because my grill is 26-inches wide, so I end up with a little 4-inch gap. It's never caused me trouble, though.

Gah! I don't have 2" to spare. Maybe I can get Mr LiveSteam to cut the damn things off. That sucks because other than that they are perfect.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7751741)
Hey Bug save your money and buy my golf bag.

I don't golf.

Titty Meat 07-16-2011 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7751746)



I don't golf.

You will after you buy this bag?

Bugeater 07-16-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7751748)
You will after you buy this bag?

Then I would have to buy clubs. And a golf membership. And some dorky clothes and a visor.

Rausch 07-16-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7751758)
Then I would have to buy clubs. And a golf membership. And some dorky clothes and a visor.

For whom?

Bugeater 07-16-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7751762)
For whom?

Well I suppose me and whoever my new golfing buddy is going to be. You want in?

Titty Meat 07-16-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7751758)
Then I would have to buy clubs. And a golf membership. And some dorky clothes and a visor.

Just wear your Scott Frost jersey and go golfin after hours. There I just saved ya 50 bucks.

Fire Me Boy! 07-16-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7751502)
I have un-coated cast iron grates in my Kenmore Stainless grill and they've rusted to shit. I basically have two sections I can cook on now and the replacements are $$$$$.

WV - get some steel wool and go to town on those grates. Then do this:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...66#post7739566

LiveSteam 07-16-2011 01:36 PM

This went from /Man grills, to ****ing GIRLY BALL! come on man

sedated 07-16-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 7751769)
WV - get some steel wool and go to town on those grates. Then do this:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...66#post7739566

This. I'm investing in a variety of cast iron - the price doesn't bother me anymore knowing they will last my lifetime and then some.

Titty Meat 07-16-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7751912)
This went from /Man grills, to ****ing GIRLY BALL! come on man

How bout we paint a girls cooter like a golf hole and shoot balls into it?

WV 07-16-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 7751769)
WV - get some steel wool and go to town on those grates. Then do this:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...66#post7739566

You know I hadn't thought about sanding them and starting over.....they're pretty rusty for steel wool, but I can have my dads lab at work blast clean them down to good metal....thanks for putting me on track.

sedated 07-16-2011 02:17 PM

Question about cast iron pans - after I use them, I rinse, wipe dry, oil (I use walnut so it doesn't go rancid), then put in oven while its still hot (upside down). Is there an easier cleaning method? Seems like I'm seasoning it with every use, and its kind of a pain in the ass.

Fire Me Boy! 07-16-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 7751951)
Question about cast iron pans - after I use them, I rinse, wipe dry, oil (I use walnut so it doesn't go rancid), then put in oven while its still hot (upside down). Is there an easier cleaning method? Seems like I'm seasoning it with every use, and its kind of a pain in the ass.

You shouldn't need to season like that all the time. After I get done, I rinse (with a non abrasive scrub sponge and hot water), do a wipe down with oil and set it on the stove for 15-20 minutes. I wipe it out again and let it cool down overnight.

I'm seriously debating taking one of my younger pans and doing the flaxseed treatment. According to that article, I won't even need to do anything besides rinse it out.

WV 07-16-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 7751951)
Question about cast iron pans - after I use them, I rinse, wipe dry, oil (I use walnut so it doesn't go rancid), then put in oven while its still hot (upside down). Is there an easier cleaning method? Seems like I'm seasoning it with every use, and its kind of a pain in the ass.

I actually scrub mine with soap and water to get the big hunks out and as long as i dry them on the stove then apply a light coat of oil afterwards I have no issues.

arrowheadnation 07-16-2011 03:32 PM

Here's what I meant by the "troughs that catch grease on the mangrates.

<img src=http://www.mangrate.com/images/sidebar-patent.jpg>

Bugeater 07-16-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aarowheadnation (Post 7752031)
Here's what I meant by the "troughs that catch grease on the mangrates.

http://www.mangrate.com/images/sidebar-patent.jpg

Yeah I checked out their webpage, if can't find something that fits well I may go that route and just set that thing on top of my old grates.

Bugeater 07-16-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7751912)
This went from /Man grills, to ****ing GIRLY BALL! come on man

Do you have a way to cut cast iron?

SAUTO 07-16-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7752037)
Do you have a way to cut cast iron?

I would imagine a cut off wheel would do the trick
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Titty Meat 07-16-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7752046)
I would imagine a cut off wheel would do the trick
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Haha Bug do this! It's probably cheaper than buying a new grill!

Bugeater 07-16-2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7752046)
I would imagine a cut off wheel would do the trick
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You mean a grinder? Through cast iron? I really have no idea, I don't work with metal at all.

LiveSteam 07-16-2011 05:15 PM

Yes. Pops left me a nice machine shop. Member the bandsaw you cut out your kids soapbox derby car on? That tool should work just fine.
You can do most anything to cast iron except weld it. you can weld cast-iron, but you need to pack it in lime & let it cool slowly for a day or so. & then its still not that strong.

SAUTO 07-16-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7752061)
You mean a grinder? Through cast iron? I really have no idea, I don't work with metal at all.

No an air rotary cut off wheel.

But the bandsaw will work just a s good or better
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LiveSteam 07-16-2011 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7752206)
No an air rotary cut off wheel.

But the bandsaw will work just a s good or better
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I have air & electric. I just hate using them. F-ing wheels like to blow apart on both. not sure if its me ? or cheap Home Depot cut off wheels. I do use them a lot when making new train cars. either way bugs i got what you need from tools to cast iron gra8ts



Am I involved yet?

SAUTO 07-16-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7752221)
I have air & electric. I just hate using them. F-ing wheels like to blow apart on both. not sure if its me ? or cheap Home Depot cut off wheels. I do use them a lot when making new train cars. either way bugs i got what you need from tools to cast iron gra8ts



Am I involved yet?


I buy good wheels. Never tried home depot though. Usually off the tool trucks. I also regulate the air down to about 120 psi . Everything else gets 175 in my shop
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LiveSteam 07-16-2011 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7752233)
I buy good wheels. Never tried home depot though. Usually off the tool trucks. I also regulate the air down to about 120 psi . Everything else gets 175 in my shop
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What brand? Im down ta 2 Home D wheels. I would like to try another brand.

Bugeater 07-16-2011 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7752221)
I have air & electric. I just hate using them. F-ing wheels like to blow apart on both. not sure if its me ? or cheap Home Depot cut off wheels. I do use them a lot when making new train cars. either way bugs i got what you need from tools to cast iron gra8ts



Am I involved yet?

Not only are you involved, you're now obligated. :)

LiveSteam 07-16-2011 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7752245)
Not only are you involved, you're now obligated. :)

The Threshing B is this weekend. You gonna come out tomorrow? Im not running my locomotive. TO HOT!

Fire Me Boy! 07-18-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7751973)
I actually scrub mine with soap and water to get the big hunks out and as long as i dry them on the stove then apply a light coat of oil afterwards I have no issues.

You should really consider not using soap at all. You're not supposed to. Hot water will work just fine. If you need to scrub, use a non-abrasive scrub sponge or salt and a paper towel.

With the soap, you're preventing the cast iron from building up its seasoning. And there is no cook wear better than a really well-seasoned cast iron pan. You're just not giving yours an opportunity to get there.

Bugeater 07-25-2011 08:06 PM

Since the price was right, I took the cast iron grates LiveSteam offered me. After some minor modifications as they were a bit too big for my grill, I cleaned them with steel wool and they are ready to go. Any suggestions (paging Fire Me Boy)on how to go about seasoning these? Should I just wipe them down with cooking oil and start using them? Or is there some other procedure I should use?

LiveSteam 07-25-2011 08:07 PM

Wipe them down with BACON:banghead:

Everything must have bacon

Bugeater 07-25-2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7772058)
Wipe them down with BACON:banghead:

Everything must have bacon

LMAO That's not a bad idea, I may just go with that.

Fire Me Boy! 07-26-2011 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7772050)
Since the price was right, I took the cast iron grates LiveSteam offered me. After some minor modifications as they were a bit too big for my grill, I cleaned them with steel wool and they are ready to go. Any suggestions (paging Fire Me Boy)on how to go about seasoning these? Should I just wipe them down with cooking oil and start using them? Or is there some other procedure I should use?

You can do one of two things: Either cook on it and take very good care of it for a while, or season it before you cook on it. For an outdoor grill, I would highly recommend pre-seasoning. This will take some time, but I've never been led astray by Cook's Illustrated:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...66#post7739566

Bugeater 07-26-2011 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 7773264)
You can do one of two things: Either cook on it and take very good care of it for a while, or season it before you cook on it. For an outdoor grill, I would highly recommend pre-seasoning. This will take some time, but I've never been led astray by Cook's Illustrated:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...66#post7739566

Oh yeah, I remember that thread. I'd rather not have the oven going any more than I have to this time of year so I'll probably just cook on them for a while, and then strip and re-season them sometime this fall.

Fire Me Boy! 07-26-2011 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7773269)
Oh yeah, I remember that thread. I'd rather not have the oven going any more than I have to this time of year so I'll probably just cook on them for a while, and then strip and re-season them sometime this fall.

Cool. Wipe 'em down with oil (bacon grease works well) before you cook on them. Then bring them inside, clean them, DRY them and wipe 'em down again and get back outside on the grill while the fire dies down. Until they're really well seasoned, you probably don't want to leave them outside.


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