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Texas A&M Board of Regents will meet on Thursday to discuss a possible move to the SEC.

That would be tits

I have said all a long. No way DOLLAR BILL BYRNE & T-AM stays in the Big-12
I hope with all my might this move happens.

Mizzou lost.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Reports continue to circulate that Texas A&M is at least considering its options with the SEC.

Ultimately, you wonder if Texas and Texas A&M would really split off from each other and what political pressure would be applied for them to stay together, because it sounds like Texas doesn't have much interest in coming to the SEC.

At the SEC spring meetings in Destin, Fla., last week, several league officials and athletic directors I talked to made it clear that being able to get into the Texas market would be especially appealing for the SEC.

Obviously, Texas is the big dog, but landing Texas A&M would still enable the SEC to get a foothold in the Lone Star State.

And if the SEC did get Texas A&M, who else would the league go after to make it an even 14 teams? I still say brand new markets such as Virginia Tech or possibly Maryland would make the most sense for the SEC.

In the meantime, we'll all watch with great interest to see how it all plays out.

Something to consider if Texas A&M did decide to come to the SEC is that Arkansas already has a 10-year contract to face the Aggies every year in the Dallas Cowboys' new stadium in Arlington, Texas. Last year's game was the first in the deal.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/po...ng-move-to-sec

DIE DAN the pillowbiter Bebee

Texas would have an absolute equal in football AND in basketball in the SEC.

It would be nuts if the SEC landed Texas but theres no way the SEC would let Texas has it's own network.

No way A&M is dumb enough to turn this down right?

If aTm goes, there will have to be a second team to go... I would imagine it would be another Big 12 team. Unless you want to put someone like Louisville in it.

Texas isn't going to join any conference that they can't run.

Mizzou. Then the Big XII will be officially done.

Or OU.

BILL BYRNE HATES THE GOAT ROPERS. he wants out,now!

Where would Mizzou go? KU to the Big East!

COLLEGE STATION – The Longhorn Network, more than a month before its scheduled start, already has at least one rapt audience: rival Texas A&M.

A&M has added a closed-door session concerning the Longhorn Network to its regents’ regularly-scheduled meeting on Thursday and Friday, a person with knowledge of the situation said Monday. The agenda item is dubbed “Big 12 Conference.”

The execution session will be informational only, including concerning UT’s plans to air a Big 12 football game on the ESPN-owned network, and to potentially air high school games, the insider said. No action will be taken, the person added, the regents will simply be informed of the latest by lawyers concerning the deep-pocketed network.

The insider said A&M is committed, for now, to making a 10-team Big 12 work, and that the threat of a potential move to the Southeastern Conference is not in the immediate future. The Aggies nearly bolted the Big 12 for the SEC last summer, after Nebraska left for the Big Ten and Colorado for the Pac-12, before last-hour financial pledges for the remaining members by Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe kept the league intact.

The A&M insider added, however, that UT’s network, funded by ESPN, might put the league’s other nine schools at disadvantages on multiple fronts, and A&M is leading the way in checking every possibility – and also leaving its long-term options open should the league appear to have one dominating member thanks primarily to the unprecedented network. The Longhorn Network is a 20-year, $300 million partnership between ESPN, UT and IMG College.

The network is scheduled to crank up on Aug. 26 with a two-hour show from the UT campus, followed by the Longhorns’ volleyball season opener against Pepperdine in Austin. The network is scheduled to air two UT football games: the season opener against Rice on Sept. 3, and the to-be-determined Big 12 game.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...#ixzz1SWHVrzrb

Don't count out the University of Kansas. They have options.

PARTY POOP ER :-(

Option 1 SIT DOWN
option 2 SHUT UP
Option 3 DON'T SPEAK, TILL SPOKEN TO.
Those are the jay-hawk options IMO

lol...they didn't start their own network just to televise two football games.

So if this goes through, will it mean the rest of the Big XII-2 goes CUSA while UT goes independent?

Who knows what could happen. 95% sure NOTHING this year. 10 schools will give it try, feel it out. 2013 we might see a big shake up.
I HOPE IM WRONG! It can all end now for my money.

And look at how well Notre Dame did so well, over time. TX will implode. Someone will blow the whistle at their program, and if he/she survives, that program will blow chunks.

No thanks, though, to Mr. Beebe.

A&M never had any SEC invite that didn't include either Texas or OU, and they don't now. The SEC wants Texas or OU, A&M was always just a bargaining chip.

Deja Vu II: Electric Boogaloo starring John Goodman and Denzel Washington?

So after a little research, rumors are that as A&M continues to stomp its feet and pout about the Longhorn Network, a big donor has promised a 9 figure check conditional on a move to the SEC, so the board is having a meeting about it. None of this, of course, changes the fact that A&M has never had, and will not have, any invitation to join the SEC that doesn't include Texas or OU. They can dream about the SEC all they want but it aint happening.

NBC keeps signing the checks. ND is doing just fine.

There is smoke. On my Tech Message board everyone is talking about how pissed aggy is about the Longhorn Network and that a certain 9 digit donation to aggy hinges on them going SEC. All of this points to some sort of smoke. Who knows? I hope so. I want the Big 12 over now. I don't want to be the Longwhores B anymore. I am tired of Texas politics, and I am tired of corruption. Let Beebe the bebe burn!

The main thing I get from this thread is that Livestream and Billay are frustrated by the remaining members of the Big 12 and think Nebraska ended up getting burned by the earlier round of realignments.

:hmmm:

Could care less. Got the anchor set and just gonna sit back and see where the mothership takes us.

Tonight WE RIDE!

You just go right ahead & keep thinking that.

Jesus this is really old info and is being spread solely by insecure A&M fans that are pissed Texas will have its own network.

I don't expect any additional conference realignment for a few years. Big 12 teams have no incentive to move now, FOX just backed up a dump truck full of cash for the new TV deal. That will make the teams content for awhile, except for A&M because they want to feel like a big dog.

Once realignment starts up again, I expect we will see the mega conferences that everyone has talked about over the last year or two. Texas is the wildcard and they may just go independent; no conference will let them come in with the Longhorn Network, but if it is successful they won't be willing to give up the money to join a conference.

LOL ...we're committed...mmmm...for now

I had read some stuff last summer - can't remember where -that aTm was essentially broke, and that would eventually precipitate their move to a new conference.

I would think the new TV deal would stregthen their coffers a bit - but I would never understand how they were "broke" in the first place.

Dollar Bill working with a broke athletic department. No Way I beleive that. That man is tight than the bark on an oak tree.

I agree. Probably some validity to the rumors they're butt hurt with Texas calling the shots.

They need to realize it's not 1991 anymore and keep their heads down for the time being.

I DON'T think moving to the SEC would benefit aTm on the field in any way.

I have a feeling A&M's plan will go "up in flames"

as opposed to toppled over in a pile of sticks?



too soon?

I dont know whats going on at ATM right now. But if the ATM boosters , chairman, & school president,ect are smart???? They will follow dollar Bills advise what ever that my be.
If I know Bill? & I think I do. His thinking is this.
I would rather have a chance,& be BEAT DOWN in the SEC.
Than to be held down with no chance,in whats left of the Big12.

I still hope the Nebraska team plane crashes into that prick Delany's house.

Is that wrong?

WTF does this even mean, lol?

Why are you Nebraska fans so ****ing butthurt? I thought you all left for greener pastures, why care what happens to the B12? Sounding like a bunch of bitter ass bitches.

Only if you live in Nebraska. I dont see it happening. BIG10 just gave Nebraska a new jet.

If the maintenance crew needs an extra hand, let me know. :grr:

Not pastures, Greener corn fields.

So how exactly is A&M being held down with no chance?

A large donor has offered me $10 if I have a threesome with Megan Fox and Jenna Jameson, so I'm strongly considering doing it.

WTF does this even mean?

Im sorry I was wrong. Everything is Even Steven. All for one,& one for all. Is the new saying in the Big 12-2

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking for you to explain what you meant.

What's that you say? The first thing the Big 10 did after adding Nebraska was create a "rivalry" game for all teams just so Ohio State and Michigan would still play every year?

How much do you think losing a non-con home game every other year is going to cost the rest of the teams who all have to take it in the ass while bowing at the altar of Michigan/Ohio State?

You aren't an equal partner in the Big 10 any more than you were in the Big 12.

No one gets to play on an equal field with UT. Its all about UT ,then everyone else. You all know dam well what I'm trying to say. Its been this way from the get go. It takes money, & lots of it to run a competitive athletic program. When 1 school takes in millions & millions more than all the rest of the schools. Its no longer competitive from a Athletic directors point of view.

If this is true, why does OU still dominate in football and ku still dominate in basketball? Texas has only won three Big 12 football championships.

I never understood this perceived "power" that Texas A&M thinks they have. Longhorn fans lol whenever A&M tries to act their equal. Just look at their bowl record the last 20 years...

1991 Cotton Bowl Classic L Florida State 2 10
1992 Cotton Bowl Classic L Notre Dame 3 28
1993 Cotton Bowl Classic L Notre Dame 21 24
1995 Alamo Bowl W Michigan 22 20
1997 Cotton Bowl Classic L UCLA 23 29
1998 Sugar Bowl L Ohio State 14 24
1999 Alamo Bowl L Penn State 0 24
2000 Independence Bowl L Mississippi State 41 43
2001 Galleryfurnitur Bowl W TCU 28 9
2004 Cotton Bowl Classic L Tennessee 7 38
2006 Holiday Bowl L Cal 10 45
2007 Alamo Bowl L Penn State 17 24
2009 Independence Bowl L Georgia 20 44
2010 Cotton Bowl Classic L LSU 24 41

If Kansas went to the SEC Cally-Perry@KY would shit a brick lol.

Pretty interesting take from the Texas SBN site.

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http://www.burntorangenation.com/201...-espn-rivalry-

Things remained relatively quiet for a year after the Big 12 was rescued in the eleventh hour, but as the kick off to the 2011 season draws near -- and, with it, the launch of the new Longhorn Network -- the lesser stars in this drama are once again beginning to grumble about their place on this totem pole.

Most vocally (and comically), of course, are the Aggies, who are lighting up boards and blogs with renewed commitment to establishing their persecuted status. As Aggies see it, Texas now has all of ESPN in its back pocket, and every day that Texas A&M remains in its present position is acquiescence to second-class citizen status.

In lieu of rational analysis in evaluating both Texas and their own status in the Big 12 conference, the Aggies continue to do what they do best -- play the victim:

If texas continues acting as a conference of one, acting in their own best interests instead of in the best interests of the conference as a whole, I have no problem believing A&M will act in their own best interests, and leave the 10-team Big 12 behind. I think the whole perception issue of "which team acted to blow up the Big 12" is really overblown, and A&M's leadership won't have a problem lighting the fuse if texas continues on their current path.

What, exactly, is the basis for the above-stated proposition? None is offered; as far as I can tell because Aggies consider the conclusion to be self-evident. The only way to make sense of that viewpoint, really, is to view the situation through the prism of "A&M as UT's victim," a mindset Aggies willfully spotlight themselves via the dull and childish cut-downs ubiquitous in the Aggie lexicon: "texas, not Texas." "tu, not UT." And -- dagger! -- "t-sips, to remind them just who is more prone to the repulsive sin of sophistication." It would be mystifying that such gimmicks could survive so many years if it were not part and parcel with the broader Aggie mindset, in which their own identity is forever defined by their rival. Texas A&M stands as much for 'Not Texas' (or 'Not texas,' as it were) as it does for itself.

That mindset is what can make it difficult to decide if Aggies are willfully ignorant, or simply stumbling through a fog. Whatever the case, it is most confusing (albeit endlessly amusing) to listen to Aggies try to navigate the complex realities of the world of modern college athletics, hamstrung as they are by the requirements of ideological purity. To be an Aggie is to accept unequivocally a certain set of ideas -- however fantastical they may be -- as facts, a mindset which leads not only to the relatively harmless idiosyncrasies like 'texas' and 'tu,' but also to the much more consequential mode of thinking that precludes useful, tracking-the-real-world analysis.

It's problematic because you wind up with an awful lot of fans who are incapable of engaging an idea on its actual terms, when doing so requires accepting premises that are antithetical to the core ideology -- namely, "texas is the bad guy. tu is at fault. The sips are just trying to keep us down." Even if it's possible that's the case, it shouldn't be accepted as gospel, let alone that which most defines you.



Ultimately, that's why it's useless to listen to so many Aggie fans themselves on these topics: whatever extent their vantage point overlaps with reality at any given moment is purely accidental. All too many Aggies continue to evaluate their situation through the prism of the victimized fan, as evidenced by the solutions they offer, which revolve around escaping or bringing harm to UT tu. As much bravado as Aggies convey, it is ironic that so many want to win by taking their ball and going home.

A More Rational Analysis

This is going to feel dirty, but let's do their dirty work for them and pivot from Aggie delusion to the rational discourse I'm mystified they aren't interested in engaging. Cock your whoop rifles high and imagine that you are a Texas A&M fan.

What's the proper mode of analysis here? First and foremost, it is to approach the problem unencumbered by a persecution complex. Yes, Texas is to be hated as the prime rival, and yes, Texas's advantages are to be bemoaned and factored in to our analysis. But no crying about it -- and specifically, no letting our displeasure with being second fiddle prevent us from performing a real analysis about us, our situation, and what's best for us.

Is it possible to conclude that a move to the SEC is in our best interest? It's not impossible, but to the extent the case is based on escaping or punishing Texas, it is a failure. That's what many real Aggies do, but here we're interested in figuring out what's in fact in the best interest of A&M athletics. In that light, a move to the SEC is risky at best, and it's very difficult to escape the conclusion that it's not simply a move to make against Texas rather than a move to help ourselves. When you really think it through, it's just incredibly difficult to see how it would be more advantageous for A&M to compete in the deepest and best football conference in the country, rather than one that is eminently conquerable. And especially when rising to the top of the Big 12 also means -- by definition -- bettering Texas.

Perhaps the risk could be justified if there were clear financial advantages to A&M, but here, too, pesky reality gets in the way. While Aggies would certainly have incentive to bolt for greener pastures if staying in the Big 12 meant giving up big chunks of money while Texas just got richer, in reality the present situation in the Big 12 is a rising-tide-lifts-all-boats situation. Texas is getting richer either way, so the question is really whether A&M gains anything by leaving. In fact, the money is more than fine for A&M right now, and they are a potentially pretty-big fish in a small pond (Big 12) rather than a small fish in a shark-infested sea (SEC). Leaving Texas behind would not harm Texas, but easily could harm A&M, and only makes sense if your worldview is that doing something to spite Texas is -- ipso facto -- a worthy objective.

Continuing our make-believe as Aggies interested in reality and rational analysis, let's instead consider the possibility that Texas's prominence -- however despicable, being as they are our rivals -- is in many ways a boon to A&M. Kansas definitely considers the Big 12 rescue project a boon (disaster averted!), but even though A&M would have had options that Kansas would not, it does not follow that this new Big 12 arrangement is inferior to those other options. Let's consider, instead, that keeping the SEC out of Texas, and our position in the richest (financial and talent) football state in the country -- even if not quite as strong as that of hated UT -- is potentially a source of tremendous benefit. It is beneficial to A&M in recruiting, it is (if we play our cards right) beneficial to A&M financially, and it is beneficial to A&M from a competitive landscape perspective. All A&M has to do is beat Texas on the field.

After all, should Aggies really care if Texas is stuffing its coffers with cash without winning the conference? What's really the goal here? If the goal is to 'out-Texas' the University of Texas, we're setting ourselves up to fail, no matter what we do. If, instead, we simply want to best them in athletics, well, maybe we ought to evaluate our options in a different light. Hell, if we can be a strong No. 2 in the state of Texas, while competing in a diluted Big 12, and while making sufficient money to be a nationally relevant football program, isn't that just about ideal? I mean, short or being the No. 1 most advantaged program in Texas?

Ending our little role playing experiment, are you as mystified as I am that Aggies seem incapable of even considering this conclusion? And more troubling, that there isn't at least a minority counterculture that peddles in reality? For a fan base so rabidly obsessed with school spirit, how dispiriting is that? It sort of makes you wonder if A&M is destined to cut off its nose to spite its face.

There are lots of amusing -- mostly harmless and irrelevant -- ways to poke fun of Aggies and celebrate the ways that our own culture is different from theirs, but it's that prideful embrace of perverted reality amongst Aggies that I find so depressing, and which continually makes me wonder how such otherwise intelligent people can willfully embrace such an unsatisfying, often counter-productive, culture.

If an Aggie needs to imagine me typing that while sipping tea and daintily nibbling a biscuit, ultimately that's their problem, isn't it?

And that's really the biggest problem that Texas A&M faces: themselves.

LMAO

So Texas always wins the B12 championships in all sports?

Nebraska should win because they are Nebraska. They have only been mediocre over the past decade because other teams have an unfair advantage, not because they were the best at running a system that is long since obsolete.

The Longhorn network makes everyone understandably uneasy but the changes that were made in the Big 12 make me hate Texas a lot less.

I, for one, think the SEC would fall over themselves to add a mediocre program from the Big XII. After all, they were pretty good for several seasons a few decades ago.

JFC PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HmX4RwcllN...1600/money.jpg

If anything, this should motivate aTm and the other 8 schools to start a seperate "Big 12" network as a means of making up some of the revenue disparity.

To me, that sounds like a much more reasonable proposal than taking your ball and going home.

The COX Cable Other 8 Schools Net Work
CC-8 Net work.

That job becomes harder with Texas playing their own game.

Harder - yes.

Impossible - no.

It all comes down to money and demand. If the other Big 12 schools can work together and show that it would be profitable, then it will happen.

Personally, I'm not convinced that the Longhorn Network will be a success. After the initial buzz, I think the lack of quality programming will hurt the subscriber base.

A solid point as well on the profitability piece.

Another thought: is this aTm going to the mattresses over high school football? I know its a religion in Texas.

Forgot to add this on my last post, but I think this is UT testing the water to see if there is enough demand for them to go independent in football (ND is only successful because of its NBC contract and huge Catholic following; BYU has the Mormon following).

If there is, and that is a big IF, then they can just keep going for the money grab because they know they will be fine when the conferences blow up again. If LN is not a huge hit though, then it will humble them a bit and will probably keep the B12 together for the foreseeable future.

Kansas would have a much more difficult time owning the SEC as it has the Big 12.

Ain't nuthin' bigger then Texas!

I think everybody knew Bevo TV would be a problem. It's also a major conflict of interest for ESPN, but that's a separate subject. I like the idea of OU being in the SEC. It would create some more great games in that conference.

I also look forward to Mizzou (and hopefully Notre Dame) joining the Big Ten by the end of the decade. We haven't seen the last of this budding rivalry between Mizzou and Nebraska. Notre Dame will join a conference after a few more losing seasons. The Domers will realize being independent no longer works for them.

If Nebraska has been mediocre over the past decade what has Mizzou been?

Mediocre

For some reason I don't think you believe that.

Over the past decade? Mediocre to be sure.
Over. The past 5 years? Very good and trending upwards.

They are pretty much the same team over that period except for the coaching turnover.

What the hell has Nebraska done in the past 10 years that warrants any special attention? Since getting crushed in the Rose Bowl in January of 2002, you've had zero conference championships and one decent bowl appearance, which was a loss.

Go back 10 to 20 years, and it's a different story. But that was also 10 to 20 years ago.

Mediocre program from a mostly vacant state running on 10 year old fumes. Somehow I don't think the folks at Michigan and Ohio State are trembling in their cleats.

If aTm is so concerned about the high school football why don't they just agree to a Big XIII network with the other 9 and also show the same Texas high school football on that as well + high school football from Oklahoma/Kansas/Missouri/ and Iowa?

I know most of Mizzou fans didn't start following college football until 2004 or so but name me a power football school that hasn't had rough times? In the last 10 years Nebraska has enjoyed more success than your school ever has. The worst decade of Husker football since the 60's and still were more successful than Mizzou.

The Big 10 picked Nebraska for a reason. Mizzou has to worry if they'll even be in a major conference.