Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7767025)

I've been watching some tape of the 2010 season. I spent part of the evening just watching Moeaki's own game, what he does each play. How he blocks, what routes he runs (when he's on camera -- I don't have GoChiefs' ****ing amazing coach view), and his blocking assignments.

I'm dead serious when I say this people, but other than lacking top speed explosiveness that you really only see in more one-dimensional athletic TEs, there are zero holes in this guy's game.

Seriously. We have perennial Pro Bowler talent here.

He simply has glue for hands. They are easily the best hands on this team -- with zero no-brainer drops that Bowe is occasionally guilty of. His routes could probably use a little refinement, but he finds good spots in zone coverage and can get that hint of leverage on a defender that Tony G used to be able to get to avail himself for a quick dart.

As good as his hands are, it's his run blocking that truly makes him special. Vernon Davis may be the only tight end in the league that's capable of blocking this good while still being a damn good receiver, and Davis comes with consistency and maturity issues that Moaeki simply doesn't have.

He handles everything from 4-3 DEs and up, and he seemingly gets his way every single time as if he's the team's ****ing blocking tight end.

It's getting to the point where I'm wondering why the Chiefs would EVER take him out of the field.

It's not terribly hard to find a veteran comparison to Moeaki. We've already seen it here in Kansas City for a decade. Tony Moeaki can make every catch Tony Gonzalez was seemingly capable of. He's just as athletic. He might become the better blocker, if he's not already. And he was a team captain at Mizzou -- there's simply no reason he can't become the vocal leader Gonzalez was here in Kansas City.

I'm loving watching this kid play. He does his job as well as anybody on the field, he is consistent, and best of all, he's just a pleasure to watch.

Originally Posted by Huffman83 (Post 7767033)

Iowa...Captain at Iowa.

**** it..

http://files.sharenator.com/close_en...184649-580.jpg

Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7767044)

Dude I TOLD YOU, I don't have a "coach's view."

I have the game broadcast.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7767038)

LMAO

I have mistaken Moeaki as a Mizzou player a half dozen times on CP. I have no idea why I keep making that mistake.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7767025)

I've been watching some tape of the 2010 season. I spent part of the evening just watching Moeaki's own game, what he does each play. How he blocks, what routes he runs (when he's on camera -- I don't have GoChiefs' ****ing amazing coach view), and his blocking assignments.

I'm dead serious when I say this people, but other than lacking top speed explosiveness that you really only see in more one-dimensional athletic TEs, there are zero holes in this guy's game.

Seriously. We have perennial Pro Bowler talent here.

He simply has glue for hands. They are easily the best hands on this team -- with zero no-brainer drops that Bowe is occasionally guilty of. His routes could probably use a little refinement, but he finds good spots in zone coverage and can get that hint of leverage on a defender that Tony G used to be able to get to avail himself for a quick dart.

As good as his hands are, it's his run blocking that truly makes him special. Vernon Davis may be the only tight end in the league that's capable of blocking this good while still being a damn good receiver, and Davis comes with consistency and maturity issues that Moaeki simply doesn't have.

He handles everything from 4-3 DEs and up, and he seemingly gets his way every single time as if he's the team's ****ing blocking tight end.

It's getting to the point where I'm wondering why the Chiefs would EVER take him out of the field.

It's not terribly hard to find a veteran comparison to Moeaki. We've already seen it here in Kansas City for a decade. Tony Moeaki can make every catch Tony Gonzalez was seemingly capable of. He's just as athletic. He might become the better blocker, if he's not already. And he was a team captain at Mizzou -- there's simply no reason he can't become the vocal leader Gonzalez was here in Kansas City.

I'm loving watching this kid play. He does his job as well as anybody on the field, he is consistent, and best of all, he's just a pleasure to watch.

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 7767058)

This is what we Hawkeye fans were saying BEFORE that draft. I've never been high on an Iowa player who didn't deserve it. Good thing about Iowa is that they are WELL coached, the coaching staff does a great job of turning 3 star players into NFL draft picks. I think it was Robert Kraft who said "when you draft an Iowa player, it's like getting a second-year pro", not positive though.

Point is, they come in well versed in pro schemes, offensive and defensive. They are generally smart, tough guys who have the work ethic necessary to succeed, and they are usually very mature. That's why I'm just as excited about Stanzi and why I'd love to get a shot at McNutt next year.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7767038)

LMAO

I have mistaken Moeaki as a Mizzou player a half dozen times on CP. I have no idea why I keep making that mistake.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7767094)

I should try to find that thread where I got dogpiled for saying he would have been a first rounder if not for injuries. Or when I mocked him as a second or third round pick.

How does my ass taste, planet?

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7767105)

Homerism pays off.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7767094)

I should try to find that thread where I got dogpiled for saying he would have been a first rounder if not for injuries. Or when I mocked him as a second or third round pick.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7767113)

Why haven't you done it yet?

I would have done it ages ago.

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 7767123)

Who are you and what'd you do with Dick?

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7767113)

Why haven't you done it yet?

I would have done it ages ago.

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 7767082)

I'm not sure Moeaki will ever be able to block out a defender and go for a ball like TG did. TG's basketball training was apparent.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7767127)

It's not important enough to spend that much time digging.

Search my name and Moeaki or Tony.

I was his poster boy way before it was cool.

Originally Posted by Tylerthigpen!1! (Post 7767272)

You need to stop sucking your own dick. No one cares.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7767127)

It's not important enough to spend that much time digging.

Search my name and Moeaki or Tony.

I was his poster boy way before it was cool.

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7767043)

Tony Gonzalez rookie year- 33 receptions 368 yards 2 TD's
Tony Moeaki's rookie year- 30 receptions 387 yards 4 TD's

Hes on pace to be the best TE EVVVAAR!!!!1!11!!one!!!1

Originally Posted by Tylerthigpen!1! (Post 7767272)

You need to stop sucking your own dick. No one cares.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7767377)

:hmmm: I thought there were 17 TE's better or equal to him in the draft last year?

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7767382)

Count me in the category of not liking the Moeaki pick when it happened last year. I loved watching the dude in college, but his injury history was the part that I hated.

I'll be anxious to see how many games Tony plays this year. If it's all 16, then I agree 100% with the OP about the high level of greatness we can expect from Moeaki for years to come

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7767390)

Yes, but he was the best fit for thier offense. Jimmy Graham doesn't have the all around skillset (Ex: blocking ability) that Moeaki does.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7767385)

I don't know about 17 TEs that were equal to or better, but there were a number of good TEs that made the trade up to get Moeaki seem kind of stupid.

And the next TE that was taken put up numbers similar to Moeaki's.



The injury history was my primary concern, as well, and it seemed to be the primary concern for most that had an issue with trading up to select Moeaki.

Given the talent pool at TE in the draft and his injury history, it seemed a huge risk.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7767484)

The injury concerns were a huge factor. No question. It's why I knew I could wait till the comp 5th round to take him in the CP mock (for Atlanta, to learn from Tony G first hand)

I showed over and over though, how his injuries were flukes of broken bones and how those type of injuries dont cause lingering issues. Once a bone is healed, it's as strong as ever...sometimes bones heal to be stronger than before.

I am obviously a big Hawkeye fan.

No question.

I honestly don't think it has taken from my objectivity, though.

In the 2010 draft, I was high on Angerer and Moeaki and bother were "re-drafted" by rich gosslein as first rounders.

Fact is, the only Hawkeye player I have been real far off on my evaluation of how he transitions to the NFL (and about what round he will go in) in all my time on message boards was Mitch King.

That kid could have been a stud if he would have kept his nose clean.

Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7767491)

Tony Moeaki = Brent Jones

A very good tight end, but not elite or dominant

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7767495)

You don't need an elite TE to win championships.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7767494)

It seems pointless to revisit this debate now, but the concern wasn't that he would reinjure prvious injuries, but that he had a history of being brittle.

Some people just can't seem to stay healthy for vorious reasons, and his seemed to be brittleness.

It may turn out that was simply bad luck, but until he gets through more than one season relatively unscathed, it remains a concern.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7767500)

I don't get it, Claythan.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7767094)

I should try to find that thread where I got dogpiled for saying he would have been a first rounder if not for injuries. Or when I mocked him as a second or third round pick.

How does my ass taste, planet?

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7767795)

I didn't see him being as polished a blocker as he was in his rookie season. That was what impressed me the most, well, other than the fact that none of his bones fractured.

Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 7769434)

I didn't have some special tape nor did I go back and rewatch the season, but during the season I was wondering why he wasn't in more and why wasn't he getting the ball more when he was in.

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 7769460)

And, I wish Mizzou was in Iowa.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7767484)

The injury concerns were a huge factor. No question. It's why I knew I could wait till the comp 5th round to take him in the CP mock (for Atlanta, to learn from Tony G first hand)

I showed over and over though, how his injuries were flukes of broken bones and how those type of injuries dont cause lingering issues. Once a bone is healed, it's as strong as ever...sometimes bones heal to be stronger than before.

I am obviously a big Hawkeye fan.

No question.

I honestly don't think it has taken from my objectivity, though.

In the 2010 draft, I was high on Angerer and Moeaki and bother were "re-drafted" by rich gosslein as first rounders.

Fact is, the only Hawkeye player I have been real far off on my evaluation of how he transitions to the NFL (and about what round he will go in) in all my time on message boards was Mitch King.

That kid could have been a stud if he would have kept his nose clean.

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7767795)

I didn't see him being as polished a blocker as he was in his rookie season. That was what impressed me the most, well, other than the fact that none of his bones fractured.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7767127)

It's not important enough to spend that much time digging.

Search my name and Moeaki or Tony.

I was his poster boy way before it was cool.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7769756)

What did you think of Robert Gallery when he was drafted?

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7770084)

I thought he would have been drafted around 10-15 and that he would be a solid left tackle, but was a bit overhyped.

Honestly though, I wasn't as informed about Iowa players back then as I am now.

I know a few people within the program and one really prominent one that answers a lot of my questions. Lots of stuff I can't share, but I have also shared plenty of stuff as well...the stuff that's ok'd.