Orton Hears a Bus...
 

And he's on it.

From PFT:

Report: Broncos want to trade Orton and do it fast
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 26, 2011, 7:43 AM EDT
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The Broncos’ front office has always maintained publicly that quarterback Kyle Orton will get a fair chance to compete for the starting job. In reality, the Broncos would love to trade Orton before training camp even starts.

Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports that the Broncos will place Orton on the trading block, and Orton’s time remaining as a Bronco may be down to hours, not days.

So despite all the talk about competition, Tim Tebow is almost certainly going to be the starter, with Brady Quinn as his backup.

The question for Orton is whether any team will want to trade for his contract, which pays him almost $9 million this year. Unless he’s ready to agree to a new deal, Orton may be a tough sell.

Tebow-Quinn, no run game & a brutal schedule. Is Denver already on the clock

John Fox wants Luck

Looks like the Andrew Luck sweepstakes begins with Denver.

FYP

godspeed

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Can a #1 pick also be Mr Irrelevant...casting..

9 million lmao

You guys still have 4 seasons of Cassel at 10 million per. LMAO

It always amuses me when you guys talk shit.

AT LEAST HE'S ON THE ****ING ROSTER DIPSHIT AND EARNING HIS PAY THROWING 27 ****ING TDS

congrats on winning the Luck lottery

We should trade them Cassel straight-up.

right. they'll go for that.

if true, Andrew Luck should blow his brains out now and save himself the suffering failure.

Elway sabotaging the QB position to keep himself the Greatest Denver QB Of All Time forever and ever? If so, keep up the good work John. Orton very well could be > than Tebow and Quinn combined. I don't know, but not sure having a former great with a leagcy to preserve making the QB decisions is good for Denver. Could be good for us!

Orton will probably be a Dolphin.

It's cute, isn't it?

ROFL

I'm sure Elway is risking tarnishing his legacy by doing a poor job running the team. Elway cares more for the Broncos than any other GM does for their team.

LMAO

You're adorable....

lol


STATED AS THOUGH IT'S A FACT!

Orton is the best QB they had .. till today ....

I love this move (assuming it happens). I never really hated Orton, so I'm glad now there's a legitimate anus-sucking shitstain QB to despise, besides Philip Rivers.

Awesome just what we need another Stanford QB to tourch us for the next 15 years.

Denver is angling for Luck, that is for sure. Problem is, Cincy is going to be even worse, so the donkeys might have to throw a few games down the stretch if they want to make it happen.

Orton is a douche. Hope he goes back to Chicago and stinks it up on the bench behind Cutler.

Do you have any credible source to prove that as a fact?

Wow. Of course if by some bizarre series of events Orton stayed in Denver and started at QB for us this year you'd be certain he was a pile of dog shit.

We could use a decent back up QB. I think the Broncos might give you Quinn for him.

C'mon you know what we're angling for. Gold, Jerry, gold

We have Stanzi. That wouldn't go well.

How about Tebow? We could use a new FB. I've never really been impressed with Mike Cox, and who the hell knows what Shane Bannan can do

"Cute" is thinking your team is at the same level of the rest of the division when they lost 4+ more games than their closest competitor in the race.

And that was with a last place schedule.

KnowMo, you were acting like Orton was a superstud last year.

Tebow would be a Hell of a FB. Deadly in a Wildcat offense too. No way would I want the Broncos to give you that kind of weapon.

not even close, the deal was structured to fall off in money toward the end.
4.75 this year (plus a 7.5 bonus)
he makes 5.25 million next year
7.5 the following year and 9 in the final year.

That means we will have another 7million to spend next year just due to contract structuring.

thanks for playing

I mean, it's cool and all, but I just don't get many people here who ask for this kind of thing.

Let me call a buddy down here who's an expert in overdrafted run-first QBs who switch to other positions. He can tell us more, and then maybe I can make a more educated offer.

Yes because that is a requirement to post on a football message board.

"Cute" is trying to run smack when you are a Chiefs fan. Unless you have been in a coma for the last 50 years, that is.

If someone posts something as if it's a fact and not an opinion they better have a source to back it up.

LMAO

Might be a bit too much....

Another reason why I don't venture into DC a lot.

If you are going to require that people list sources for their opinions here there will be nothing left.
Rather than ask for sources you need are supposed to ridicule the opinion, personally attack the poster by questioning their lineage and offer the standard assortment of aids, fire, and antifreeze.

That's an idiot rule you just made up.

The Chiefs don't suck right now. The Broncos do. And you've got a little turd like Knowmo in your collective who asks for us to bring smack down upon your team.

Those are the facts

LMAO thanks for proving my point. Looks like you may have created a new sig line for yourself.

How do you know what I'd be certain of? Orton has been pretty good for you guys the last couple of years, much better than I expected. I love this move. Only time will tell much worse/better Tebow and Quinn are.

He is a very good QB when he has perfect protection and open recievers, but if he gets pressured he panics and he can't squeeze throws into tight spots which leads to failed 3rd down conversions and FG's in the redzone. But he is an extremely smart and accurate QB, if a guy is open he will usually hit him, he's a much more consistent passer than Cassel.

Yeah, I think Orton has been pretty decent. The problems with the Broncos can't be laid entirely at his feet at all. We haven't run blocked well and we haven't had a lot of continuity on Offense. Our Defense has been incredibly weak as well.

Trading Orton is a calculated move of ability vs. potential. If we were an all around good team then I would say keep him and keep building up the team. But we are in a rebuild, so the hope is that Tebow hits his potential as we build a team around him. I think Tebow is going to be a very good Quarterback with substantial playmaking ability.

Quinn just plain sucks. We snagged a UDFA QB and I am hoping that we trade Orton, cut Quinn, then sign Jake Delhomme.

as are virutally all NFL caliber QBs.

By all means continue. I'm still not sure that Knowmo isn't yet another GoChiefs alt.

I totally understand starting Tebow and building for the future while in rebuild mode. What I don't understand is wanting Quinn as a backup over Orton. Must be that Orton is commanding a far greater salary, cause you're right, Quinn from what I've seen just plain sucks.

I very much enjoy the effect knowmo has on a few of the Planet members.

Agreed. All I would add is that the rosters are far from set at this point. I know it isn't fashionable to say here but Denver has a front office guy who knows a little about the QB position.

I honestly don't know what anybody sees in Quinn, but I think the idea is to get what they can out of an Orton trade because he only has one year left on his contract and we'll lose him next year for nothing.

So am I.

That's weird. It seems like since the Broncos finished 2nd the year before, they should have been playing the 2nd place schedule last year, and the Chiefs, who finished last in 2009, should have gotten the last place schedule.

Oh, wait... That's exactly what happened.

Just because you're getting horny from being a troll doesn't mean I'm having this conversation with you for the 5000th time.

I'm not guaranteeing that the Chiefs win the division again or make the playoffs. I'm saying they're not a bad team. The roster is a far cry from the 4-12 abortions we saw under Herm. Any idiot who has watched more than one game's worth of football in his life would be able to see that.

By saying "Who cares? All the AFC West teams suck" you're using that as an excuse for the pathetic state of your current team. I should know. I said the very same thing from 2007-2009. Self-honesty is the key to surviving these rebuilds, I'm telling you.

And now I'm done.

I didn't mean it like that. I meant in terms of schedule difficulty. Yeah, the Chiefs had two easy games that the Broncos didn't have, but if you're telling me that those two games against tougher opponents are the only reason why Kansas City won the division and Denver finished in the basement and not the other way around.... well... that would be idiotic, wouldn't it?

Damn, a neck beard in all that humidity?

Face it broncs, you've got a long road ahead the next few years, even if horseface turns out to be ok at his new job.

'the road is looong, with maaany a winding turn...'

It is good that you back your team. Just stop acting surprised that until KC wins something your smack talking is going to be laughed at.

Sweet, now you're channeling Wickedson. LMAO

I'm no astronomy major, but I would guess that winning the divison equals sucking a whole lot less than a team that won four games in same division.

Bottom line this is actually a smart move by Elway. They spent 1st round $ on Tebow and will live or die with him. If he bombs, bring on Luck. I'll bet Kolb and Hasselbeck hate this move. Another vet QB hits the market.

We've been on a long and winding road since Shannahan got fired. This isn't news, or shouldn't be, to any Broncos fans.

FYP

You can tell how far down someone is by what they consider high up.

You menace! That poor strawman can't take any more of your beatings. At least let him rest a bit so you can save some action over the course of the rest of the offseason

Denver has to fix the rushing game and defense before I can get too concerned with who is playing QB. I wish Orton the best...

Moreno is working out because of all the shit talked about him. He's going to be as if they combined Eric Dickerson and Roger Craig going forward in his career. [/KnowMo]

It is.


I am gonna bust balls here and I don't want any hard feeling. Forgive me if I am off a few years.


You haven't honestly competed for a Super Bowl since you last won a playoff game two decades ago. You haven't won a super bowl since Abraham was a toddler. Without looking I'd say over the past 5 years you've lost 2/3rds of your games.

You've had some good drafts, and I look forward to renewed hostilities and epic gridiron battles with the Chiefs. You are a team on the rise.

Historically the Chiefs are the lesser franchise, right now though...neither team matters in the NFL.

We also beat you in your own house to go on to win a Super Bowl with one of the greatest football QB's of all time.

That is why the shit talking amuses me. :D

12 years is more than "a few," numbnuts.

Funny, my baseball team won a World Series five years ago. Yet for some reason, I don't feel compelled to log on to a Cubs BB and regularly remind them of it.

Perhaps I'm just not pathetic enough to understand the fascination with it.

Too bad smack talk doesn't come with an expiration date.

History means absolutely dick IMO.


It's all about the present and future.

I understand, Tebow was here, is etched on the cellar wall

You forget that the Broncos were a shitty, shitty franchise until Elway came along. And since then they've been just as poopy as the Chiefs.

Yeah, that was a good dynasty. Lasted the length of Elway's entire career. But let's not pretend we're comparing the Detroit Lions to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Historically we're much closer than you think.

The NFL doesn't give a flying **** about Elway's Super Bowls and won't until you guys dig yourselves out of this shit cellar. If Tebow isn't everything he's cracked up to be, that could take awhile.

Of course, you might win the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, and your ascendency might happen a lot quicker.

Nope: They were a shitty, shitty franchise until Floyd Little came along in the late 60's. After Little they had a great Defense in the 70's that got them to a Super Bowl, but they lost to the Dallas Cowboys. The Elway era began in the early 80's and ended in the late 90's. They have had some moderate success after Elway but have never been as good since. It wasn't until the last few years that the Broncos finally took a nose dive back down to shitty again.

Supe Bowl Wins, with or without an Asterix*:

Kansas City : 1
Denver : 2

SuperBowls Wins not including years the coach was criscoing up his D Line and cheated the salary cap (ie without an asterix):

Kansas City : 1
Denver : 0

With that kind of record...I'd say the samething. I do think you guys will be really good this year. Most likely you'll win the West again and with style points.

If Tebow stays healthy, I don't think he'll need him once it's all said and done.

Maybe we take Luck if we're there. Somehow I don't think we'll be in the spot to take him and Tebow will have much to say about it. I think Tim is a complete competitor. I am not betting against him on any kind of consistent basis.


He trains like Rocky...he breaks big tree with mauls and pushes 1.5 ton trucks up hills.

....finger touches tip of nose....