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RedThat 08-29-2011 12:49 PM

Im taking things back...I hope the Chiefs tank the season
 
Before I said I wanted the Chiefs to be successful this season but now I changed my mind.

I honestly hope they fail. I know I look stupid for saying this, but I really don't give a sh*t. Please bear with me here and I'll give you my explanations as to why I want them to fail this season.

I just simply think now is the right time for them to do that. That is all. I have come to the conclusion and decided that we are not going anywhere with Cassel. Im not placing my hopes in him. **** it. I lost faith. He is not the answer. And I am now jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the fans out there that we should draft a quarterback in the first round. Luck? possibly? It is wishful thinking at this point but I would never rule it out as a possiblity. You just never know.

But I would love and absolutely love to have Andrew Luck. The guy is a gamer and will be an excellent NFL quarterback imo. But what will it take to get him? Thats the question. Do we have to finish in the bottom 5 in the league? Or, will he go #1 overall? I don't know. I can't see us being the worst team in the league. We have too much talent. But for once, I want this thing to be right for **** sakes. We do this by drafting a QB in the first. **** these journeyman no good projectory quarterbacks. they get you nothing in the end except 9-7 or 10-6 seasons at best. which is exactly what happened last year. Instead, I want the homerun. In fact, I want the grandslam. Im thinking big. Even if it means sacrificing this season to ensure a better longterm future. Im relying on hope brothers and sisters.

I repeat, this team has a lot of talent. In fact, we have an abundance of talent. We have enough talent and good coaching on defense to be a top 10 D. We have a great running game, good young interior Olineman, good Wrs, good TE. The Chiefs are not that far off, believe me. But, we are missing a few big components that could easily make this team a failure and set them back a year or two. One of those is we lack a true legit QB, and a set of bookend OT's. Those are BIG BIG pieces to the puzzle of a championship team.

I think Cassel is going to lose us games this year. Teams will be prepared to shut down the running game and we will be forced to pass. We don't have the QB or OTs to make an effective passing game. I don't expect us to improve in pass offense. Plus, we lost Charlie Weis as OC. I thought he made up for a lot. Big big loss there. One of the brightest minds in the game. And we have one of the worst offensive coaches in Bill Muir running the show. The offense will sputter big time this season. The defense will do its job but will be on the field long enough to wear down in games thanks in large part to the uncomplimentary offense we have. Do that against good teams and you're done. And we are going to play a lot of good teams. So.....the fact, we have a tough schedule, this team could be in for a long, losing season. It seriously wouldn't surprise me? there is nothing I have seen this preseason to say, "yeah this team has it." Nothing like that. They have been a joke. I know, I know its preseason. As most would say, big effing deal. IT IS A BIG DEAL! We should care because its part of preparation. Just the fact that Haley is not concerned about preseason and treating it like scrimmage raises a big red flag. What kind of a ****ing NFL coach does that? honestly. Who has done that this year? Nobody except boneheaded Todd. **** him. If he ****'s this season up because of that, he should be out the door. And that may be worth it? It might not be a bad thing if we could get a REAL coach and quarterback in here.

Haley can easily screw this thing up. He makes a lot of boneheaded/head scratching decisions at times. Lets face it, he had a lot of help last year with Weis. Lets see how good he really is without a bright offensive mind.
I just don't have a good feeling about him at all. He is going to **** us up and run us down to the ground.

Jewish Rabbi 08-29-2011 12:51 PM

You're a ****ing idiot.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 08-29-2011 12:52 PM

:shake:

boogblaster 08-29-2011 12:52 PM

huh ....

keg in kc 08-29-2011 12:52 PM

I can't decide whether to go with :doh!: or :shake: so I'll take :popcorn: instead.

alpha_omega 08-29-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7859963)
I honestly hope they fail.

I understand your rationale, but (IMO) you sir are not a "true fan" if your wish is to see us fail.

lcarus 08-29-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 7859984)
I understand your rationale, but (IMO) you sir are not a "true fan" if your wish is to see us fail.

Is he a true fan if he really believes failing now is the only way to be successful in the future? Because that is what I think he's getting at. I don't know. Didn't read the whole thing.

RedThat 08-29-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 7859972)
You're a ****ing idiot.

Do you honestly think we are going to win with that piece of crap QB?

**** it. Gimme a Qb that has potential. I'd rather take my chances with drafting a quarterback in the first round. Even if it means sacrificing the season. Why not?

We are going nowhere with Cassel. Im telling you that right now. And he has done nothing to show he improved. nor do I believe he will improve either? I care more about the future than I do about this season.

RedThat 08-29-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7860000)
Is he a true fan if he really believes failing now is the only way to be successful in the future? Because that is what I think he's getting at. I don't know. Didn't read the whole thing.

Thats exactly what I meant. thank you. At least somebody gets it.

Bewbies 08-29-2011 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860002)
Do you honestly think we are going to win with that piece of crap QB?

**** it. Gimme a Qb that has potential. I'd rather take my chances with drafting a quarterback in the first round. Even if it means sacrificing the season. Why not?

We are going nowhere with Cassel. I care more about the future than I do about this season.

Why would we take Andrew Luck when we already have the next Tom Brady, DICK MOTHER ****ING STANZI!!!!1!

Seriously though, watch Arizona and USC if you're looking at QB's we might could take.

booyaf2 08-29-2011 12:59 PM

We don't have to sacrifice the season to take a QB in Rd 1 next year.

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyaf2 (Post 7860024)
We don't have to sacrifice the season to take a QB in Rd 1 next year.

Well....I think Andrew Luck is going to be the best out all the QBs coming out next year. I hope for the best guy.

Gonzo 08-29-2011 01:02 PM

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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 08-29-2011 01:03 PM

I am so going to laugh when Luck comes out and turns into the next Harrington or Carr or Ware or whoever else was the "can't miss" QB from college and some unheralded kid winds up lighting up the league.

Rain Man 08-29-2011 01:03 PM

In all honesty, I hope they win the Super Bowl this season.

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 01:06 PM

With each passing preseason, this place is getting worse and worse...

Gonzo 08-29-2011 01:06 PM

Cassel is the ****ing man. You have no idea what the **** you're talking about.

He has played like shit in the preseason because that's Haley's m.o.
He saves his starters from injury, he runs vanilla plays that he probably gets from Madden 98 and he plays the rookies and UFA's to see is there's any talent.

The new game plan will go into effect on opening day where Mr. Cassel will throw for 300 yds, 2 TD's and no int's.
Charles will run for 140 and 1 td and Jones will run for 50 and 1 td.

You'll see.... YOU ALL WILL ****ING SEE!

I WAS RIGHT ABOUT MATT MOTHER-****ING CASSEL!

LTL 08-29-2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860035)
Well....I think Andrew Luck is going to be the best out all the QBs coming out next year. I hope for the best guy.

What makes you think Pioli would draft Luck and not just go with Stanzi.

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2011 01:06 PM

My position is this.

Cassel becomes the QB we need him to be, and we win a playoff game or 2. Highly unlikely.

Or

He completely flames out forcing Haley to pull him. The problem with that is I wanna see Stanzi, not Palko.

MoreLemonPledge 08-29-2011 01:11 PM

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RedThat 08-29-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTL (Post 7860076)
What makes you think Pioli would draft Luck and not just go with Stanzi.

Competition. something the Chiefs have been preaching since day 1 when the Pioli regime took over.

Just because we have Stanzi that doesn't guarantee anything?

The way I look at it, Cassel ****'s up this season we get a top 5 pick and finally discover he is not the answer. Then Luck falls on our laps and he is the best guy available at a position of need. pioli would draft based on BPA and best position of need. Very much like he did with Berry last year.

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7860046)
In all honesty, I hope they win the Super Bowl this season.

Not. Gonna. Happen. Im willing to bet on it.

Sofa King 08-29-2011 01:16 PM

Why the **** would anyone want their team to lose?

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7860111)

LMAO oh many fans will be saying that about Cassel this year.

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860152)
LMAO oh many fans will be saying that about Cassel this year.

:doh!: Jesus this shit is getting tiresome...

MoreLemonPledge 08-29-2011 01:21 PM

I AM SUCH A FAN OF THIS TEAM THAT I WANT THEM TO BE TERRIBLE

lcarus 08-29-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 7860081)
He completely flames out forcing Haley to pull him. The problem with that is I wanna see Stanzi, not Palko.

If Cassel went down and they went with Palko instead of Stanzi, I'll lose all faith in this regime.

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7860193)
If Cassel went down and they went with Palko instead of Stanzi, I'll lose all faith in this regime.

IF Brett Farve threw a touchdown on Saturday, that would be cool...


IF IF IF? well IF this and IF that... If this shit to death... Sound like a bunch of women in a coffee shop...

:spock:

-King- 08-29-2011 01:26 PM

Yeah, I'd rather they go 0-16 rather then 19-0 also.
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ReynardMuldrake 08-29-2011 01:26 PM

You actually want your team to lose? Kindly go **** yourself. You don't win by losing. Take that whiny bullshit and go root for another team. Quitter.

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860123)
Not. Gonna. Happen. Im willing to bet on it.

Well, duh. We'd all bet on that. He said 'Hope'.

Lex Luthor 08-29-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7859963)
Before I said I wanted the Chiefs to be successful this season but now I changed my mind.

I honestly hope they fail. I know I look stupid for saying this, but I really don't give a sh*t. Please bear with me here and I'll give you my explanations as to why I want them to fail this season.

I just simply think now is the right time for them to do that. That is all. I have come to the conclusion and decided that we are not going anywhere with Cassel. Im not placing my hopes in him. **** it. I lost faith. He is not the answer. And I am now jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the fans out there that we should draft a quarterback in the first round. Luck? possibly? It is wishful thinking at this point but I would never rule it out as a possiblity. You just never know.

But I would love and absolutely love to have Andrew Luck. The guy is a gamer and will be an excellent NFL quarterback imo. But what will it take to get him? Thats the question. Do we have to finish in the bottom 5 in the league? Or, will he go #1 overall? I don't know. I can't see us being the worst team in the league. We have too much talent. But for once, I want this thing to be right for **** sakes. We do this by drafting a QB in the first. **** these journeyman no good projectory quarterbacks. they get you nothing in the end except 9-7 or 10-6 seasons at best. which is exactly what happened last year. Instead, I want the homerun. In fact, I want the grandslam. Im thinking big. Even if it means sacrificing this season to ensure a better longterm future. Im relying on hope brothers and sisters.

I repeat, this team has a lot of talent. In fact, we have an abundance of talent. We have enough talent and good coaching on defense to be a top 10 D. We have a great running game, good young interior Olineman, good Wrs, good TE. The Chiefs are not that far off, believe me. But, we are missing a few big components that could easily make this team a failure and set them back a year or two. One of those is we lack a true legit QB, and a set of bookend OT's. Those are BIG BIG pieces to the puzzle of a championship team.

I think Cassel is going to lose us games this year. Teams will be prepared to shut down the running game and we will be forced to pass. We don't have the QB or OTs to make an effective passing game. I don't expect us to improve in pass offense. Plus, we lost Charlie Weis as OC. I thought he made up for a lot. Big big loss there. One of the brightest minds in the game. And we have one of the worst offensive coaches in Bill Muir running the show. The offense will sputter big time this season. The defense will do its job but will be on the field long enough to wear down in games thanks in large part to the uncomplimentary offense we have. Do that against good teams and you're done. And we are going to play a lot of good teams. So.....the fact, we have a tough schedule, this team could be in for a long, losing season. It seriously wouldn't surprise me? there is nothing I have seen this preseason to say, "yeah this team has it." Nothing like that. They have been a joke. I know, I know its preseason. As most would say, big effing deal. IT IS A BIG DEAL! We should care because its part of preparation. Just the fact that Haley is not concerned about preseason and treating it like scrimmage raises a big red flag. What kind of a ****ing NFL coach does that? honestly. Who has done that this year? Nobody except boneheaded Todd. **** him. If he ****'s this season up because of that, he should be out the door. And that may be worth it? It might not be a bad thing if we could get a REAL coach and quarterback in here.

Haley can easily screw this thing up. He makes a lot of boneheaded/head scratching decisions at times. Lets face it, he had a lot of help last year with Weis. Lets see how good he really is without a bright offensive mind.
I just don't have a good feeling about him at all. He is going to **** us up and run us down to the ground.

This is one of the more reeruned posts I've seen in a while.

You hate Cassel. We get it. So go root for the Raiders already.

lcarus 08-29-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7860199)
IF Brett Farve threw a touchdown on Saturday, that would be cool...


IF IF IF? well IF this and IF that... If this shit to death... Sound like a bunch of women in a coffee shop...

:spock:

Yes only women in coffee shops speculate on possible future scenarios.

luv 08-29-2011 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860123)
Not. Gonna. Happen. Im willing to bet on it.

I think the point is that, if you're gonna hope your team loses, maybe you should go root for another team. I understand being realistic in expectations, but hoping they tank? Seriously? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 7860203)
You actually want your team to lose? Kindly go **** yourself. You don't win by losing. Take that whiny bullshit and go root for another team. Quitter.

I said lose for a better future.

Do some of you believe that sometimes you got to be worse to get better?

Do some of you believe that success is not a smooth road? that you will encounter a few bumps along the way with a few setbacks.

Do some of you fail to understand that I care more about the teams long term success than I do about now?

MoreLemonPledge 08-29-2011 01:30 PM

If you hate Cassel so much and want Luck, why don't you HOPE that the Chiefs trade up to get him?

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7860208)
Yes only women in coffee shops speculate on possible future scenarios.

YOURE right, they at some point stop menstrating about it... For them its a 2-4 day cycle... For the MEN of CP is a 24x7 menstral cycle...

My apologies to women in the coffe shop...

Jewish Rabbi 08-29-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860218)
I said lose for a better future.

Do some of you believe that sometimes you got to be worse to get better?

Do some of you believe that success is not a smooth road? that you will encounter a few bumps along the way with a few setbacks.

Do some of you fail to understand that I care more about the teams long term success than I do about now?

Getting worse to get better makes absolutely no sense.

I do believe that there is some adversity along the way, as I'm sure everyone does. That doesn't include tanking a ****ing season where you have a legitimate chance to win the division.

I understand you care about the long term success of the team, but your logic is just ass-backwards.

King_Chief_Fan 08-29-2011 01:32 PM

head over to the Denver or Raider board.......
your post is idiotic at best......hope your team fails?
:grr:

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7860221)
If you hate Cassel so much and want Luck, why don't you HOPE that the Chiefs trade up to get him?

RedThat can become OrangeThat, if the Broncos select him....

luv 08-29-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860218)
I said lose for a better future.

Do some of you believe that sometimes you got to be worse to get better?

Do some of you believe that success is not a smooth road? that you will encounter a few bumps along the way with a few setbacks.

Do some of you fail to understand that I care more about the teams long term success than I do about now?

Have you not been watching this team the last five years?

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7860221)
If you hate Cassel so much and want Luck, why don't you HOPE that the Chiefs trade up to get him?

Can't see that happening.

Pioli usually likes to trade down and accummulate draft picks. Its the Patriot way of doing things. He is kinda doing the same thing here to a certain degree.

Im paying attention to the way this franchise operates and I just can't see them trading up.

Brock 08-29-2011 01:33 PM

6 paragraphs of stupidity, as usual.

MoreLemonPledge 08-29-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860237)
Can't see that happening.

Pioli usually likes to trade down and accummulate draft picks. Its the Patriot way of doing things. He is kinda doing the same thing here to a certain degree.

Im paying attention to the way this franchise operates and I just can't see them trading up.

Well if Andrew Luck is such a sure thing and Cassel is so terrible, it only makes sense, right?

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7860236)
Have you not been watching this team the last five years?

Yes I have. And they have done a great job addressing most positions but yet have failed to address the most important position on the team. Heck, Ive been watching this team for a while and Im sick of seeing us with journeyman QBs. Why can't I hope for a top 5 draft pick to be a QB?

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7860251)
Well if Andrew Luck is such a sure thing and Cassel is so terrible, it only makes sense, right?

And NFL executives would be able to see that and make it happen right?>

ChiefGator 08-29-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7860046)
In all honesty, I hope they win the Super Bowl this season.

Why do you hate the Chiefs so much? Seriously.. WHY!?

You want to win the Super Bowl THIS year, when we could lose every game and possibly get the second coming of ... well ... we're not quite sure yet.

Get outta here, you fair-weather, success-wanting, selfish, selfish non-fan man.

beach tribe 08-29-2011 01:38 PM

I'm so sick of every one acting like we won't draft a QB in the first round because we have Cassel. If a QB falls to us ala' A. Rogers, or there is a QB worth our pick, I will bet that we pull the trigger. Hunt has said he wants to draft, and develop a QB, and everyone acts like just because we went out and got Cassel, that he doesn't still want to do that. He does, and I would almost put money on the fact that Cassel's successor will be a QB drafted, and developed by us.

And screw your outlook on this season. You're a quitter, and a pussy.

beach tribe 08-29-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860218)
I said lose for a better future.

Do some of you believe that sometimes you got to be worse to get better?

Do some of you believe that success is not a smooth road? that you will encounter a few bumps along the way with a few setbacks.

Do some of you fail to understand that I care more about the teams long term success than I do about now?

Just shut up already.

luv 08-29-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860256)
Yes I have. And they have done a great job addressing most positions but yet have failed to address the most important position on the team. Heck, Ive been watching this team for a while and Im sick of seeing us with journeyman QBs. Why can't I hope for a top 5 draft pick to be a QB?

We've had the opportunity in recent years to get a QB with a top 5 pick. It hasn't happened. You want us to keep having top picks until we get someone at every position we need?

MoreLemonPledge 08-29-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7860259)
And NFL executives would be able to see that and make it happen right?>

Nope, only fans on a message board have enough foresight to make this happen.

Buns 08-29-2011 01:41 PM

I lurk heavily. I love this site.

This guys stupidity got me to post.

I would lose a lot of respect for my team, if I thought they were throwing away a season for a chance at a high pick for a QB who no one knows for sure will be any good. I feel stupider thinking about the OP, as every second goes by.

I don't know if the Chiefs can win big or win little this year, but I want everyone from top to bottom busting their ass to win every game.

I'm iffy on Cassel btw.

luv 08-29-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 7860262)
Why do you hate the Chiefs so much? Seriously.. WHY!?

You want to win the Super Bowl THIS year, when we could lose every game and possibly get the second coming of ... well ... we're not quite sure yet.

Get outta here, you fair-weather, success-wanting, selfish, selfish non-fan man.

Okay, this made me laugh out loud. Literally.

ChiefGator 08-29-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 7860276)
I'm so sick of every one acting like we won't draft a QB in the first round because we have Cassel.

And likewise, just because a good QB is sitting there in the draft at our position, we may not take him. We're not going to get a shot at Luck with our roster. I'm sorry, but there is no way we do not win at least 4-5 games and end up at pick three or lower.

So, now you are hoping Pioli drafts the second best QB you like a whole bunch, but he may be happy with Stanzi, Palko, or looking in free agency.

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7860301)
Okay, this made me laugh out loud. Literally.

:evil:

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7860251)
Well if Andrew Luck is such a sure thing and Cassel is so terrible, it only makes sense, right?

You're basing this on guarantees. Im saying that is not the way the Chiefs operate.

Buns 08-29-2011 01:43 PM

I want a Stanzi #13 jersey. Is that preemptive?

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7860294)
We've had the opportunity in recent years to get a QB with a top 5 pick. It hasn't happened. You want us to keep having top picks until we get someone at every position we need?


I didn't say that. I said this year may be worth it because I think Luck is going to be a good NFL QB.

MoreLemonPledge 08-29-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860305)
You're basing this on guarantees. Im saying that is not the way the Chiefs operate.

So what exactly is the point of your thread other than to stretch "I hate Cassel" into a short story?

ChiefGator 08-29-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 7860319)
I want a Stanzi #13 jersey. Is that preemptive?

Woah, woah.. let's wait until all the cuts go through.



Stanzi may change his jersey number then.

RealSNR 08-29-2011 01:46 PM

Cassel bashers have had 3 years to vent out frustrations. It's come in the form of Cassel threads, Sanchez threads, McCluster threads, Pioli threads, Star Trek threads, and (of course) draft threads. And so much more, including stuff in DC

RedThat chose to keep his doubts suppressed for awhile. What you're seeing here is the releasing of that anger he's been keeping hidden deep down for a long time.

You'll be fine, RedThat. Try drinking a nice hot cup of Ricky Stanzi. It will take the edge off.

Buns 08-29-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 7860326)
Woah, woah.. let's wait until all the cuts go through.



Stanzi may change his jersey number then.

Hope he doesn't. 13 is my favorite number. He could have taken 12, his college number.

Brock 08-29-2011 01:48 PM

The season hasn't started, and here's an idiot posting that he hopes the team tanks.

The facepalm gif isn't big enough.

lcarus 08-29-2011 01:49 PM

I used to think this way when we had the great QB battle between Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen. But now, we have a solid young team that is capable of winning each time they step onto the gridiron. The NFL media has hammered it into everyone's heads that you MUST have a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning to win a Super Bowl. Yeah those QBs are gonna win Super Bowls. But I don't think it's impossible to win with a QB that can, at the very least, manage a game by not making a lot of mistakes.

With a good running game and defense, you can still win in this league.

ReynardMuldrake 08-29-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860218)
I said lose for a better future.

Do some of you believe that sometimes you got to be worse to get better?

Do some of you believe that success is not a smooth road? that you will encounter a few bumps along the way with a few setbacks.

Do some of you fail to understand that I care more about the teams long term success than I do about now?

Absolutely not. **** that noise. It's one thing to be optimistic about failure, it's another to actually wish your team to fail in the future. If we're 0-15 I'm still rooting to win that last game.

Like I said, you don't win by losing. Shitty teams worry about stupid shit like that. Good teams worry about winning.

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7860323)
So what exactly is the point of your thread other than to stretch "I hate Cassel" into a short story?

To draft a quarterback in the EARLY rounds to help better our chances of success.

To point out that we are going nowhere with Cassel and we are better off making changes even if it means setting ourselves back with a losing season and getting a QB who could potentially be great.

To imply that I want my team to win a superbowl in the future. And that will only happen by drafting an elite QB and getting rid of Cassel.

My thread is based more on hope than anything. People are just taking it the wrong way.

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7860341)
Cassel bashers have had 3 years to vent out frustrations. It's come in the form of Cassel threads, Sanchez threads, McCluster threads, Pioli threads, Star Trek threads, and (of course) draft threads. And so much more, including stuff in DC

RedThat chose to keep his doubts suppressed for awhile. What you're seeing here is the releasing of that anger he's been keeping hidden deep down for a long time.

You'll be fine, RedThat. Try drinking a nice hot cup of Ricky Stanzi. It will take the edge off.

Its been awhile since we had a grown man come right out and say that he would love to take a "load" off a football player...

I guess GoChiefs was the last that I remember...

Make sure you take a towel with you...

:D




FYI, its a joke, since you suck at sarcasm...

The Franchise 08-29-2011 01:52 PM

You do realize that even if we somehow go 3-13......Cassel would still be our starting QB next year? Unless he completely shits the bed and throws 40 INTs and 2 TDs.....they're not cutting bait. They'll blame it on our pass protection and you would watch this team take a LT with the #1 pick.

bowener 08-29-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 7859977)
huh ....

I have noticed you like the extra long ellipsis.

RedThat 08-29-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7860360)
I used to think this way when we had the great QB battle between Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen. But now, we have a solid young team that is capable of winning each time they step onto the gridiron. The NFL media has hammered it into everyone's heads that you MUST have a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning to win a Super Bowl. Yeah those QBs are gonna win Super Bowls. But I don't think it's impossible to win with a QB that can, at the very least, manage a game by not making a lot of mistakes.

With a good running game and defense, you can still win in this league.

I don't believe that. It is very rare that you win a SB without an elite QB.

I want an elite QB. Not game managers.

We do have a lot of talent. At a lot of positions. But how shameful would it be to see it go to waste because all along we knew we didn't have the QB to take us to the top?

That is where Im getting at. Id just like to see us add to the puzzle and I feel that quarterback is the key ingredient were missing. If we have a losing season it may be worth it and increase our chances of landing that guy who can be an "elite" QB in this league.

Carlota69 08-29-2011 01:57 PM

I could never ever imagine wishing for The Chiefs to lose, EVER. Even if it was the end of the season and we were 1-14, vying for the 1st pick, and I was vocal about wanting them to lose so we could get the top pick, Id find myself rooting for them to win during the game.

Rooting for The Chiefs to lose IS NOT in my blood. Period.

ReynardMuldrake 08-29-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860371)
To draft a quarterback in the EARLY rounds to help better our chances of success.

To point out that we are going nowhere with Cassel and we are better off making changes even if it means setting ourselves back with a losing season and getting a QB who could potentially be great.

To imply that I want my team to win a superbowl in the future. And that will only happen by drafting an elite QB and getting rid of Cassel.

My thread is based more on hope than anything. People are just taking it the wrong way.

You don't have a team. Not this one, anyway. You're infatuated with a hypothetical team that doesn't even exist.

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860392)
I don't believe that. It is very rare that you win a SB without an elite QB.

I want an elite QB. Not game managers.

We do have a lot of talent. At a lot of positions. But how shameful would it be to see it go to waste because all along we knew we didn't have the QB to take us to the top?

That is where Im getting at. Id just like to see us add to the puzzle and I feel that quarterback is the key ingredient were missing. If we have a losing season it may be worth it and increase our chances of landing that guy who can be an "elite" QB in this league.

and you know without any doubt that you can draft that Elite QB?

And if you draft that Elite QB and he fails? You have wasted the talent of this team just the same...

:doh!:

Marcellus 08-29-2011 01:59 PM

Want me to hand you the nails after you climb up on that cross?

luv 08-29-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860320)
I didn't say that. I said this year may be worth it because I think Luck is going to be a good NFL QB.

Ah, okay. Let's tank an entire season in the hopes that Luck ends up being good in the NFL AND that the Chiefs are smart like you and draft him.

/sarcasm

RealSNR 08-29-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7860373)
Its been awhile since we had a grown man come right out and say that he would love to take a "load" off a football player...

I guess GoChiefs was the last that I remember...

Make sure you take a towel with you...

:D

FYI, its a joke, since you suck at sarcasm...

1. Your jokes suck. So do you. You should probably stop trying to be funny.

2. What you just posted isn't sarcasm. "Since you suck at sarcasm" has absolutely nothing to do with your bad joke.

3. If you wanted to make a gay joke, there are about 453,834 different ways you could have worded it better. Again, you suck at humor.

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7860443)
1. Your jokes suck. So do you. You should probably stop trying to be funny.

2. What you just posted isn't sarcasm. "Since you suck at sarcasm" has absolutely nothing to do with your bad joke.

3. If you wanted to make a gay joke, there are about 453,834 different ways you could have worded it better. Again, you suck at humor.

ROFL

Never disappoints...

RedThat 08-29-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7860413)
and you know without any doubt that you can draft that Elite QB?

And if you draft that Elite QB and he fails? You have wasted the talent of this team just the same...

:doh!:

And what if that elite QB becomes good? It can go the other way too.

We screw up the season and get Luck he becomes a great quarterback and he takes this team to the promised land.

here is the way I see it, we go 9-7 this year. Okay, we make the playoffs,again, win the division and lose again in the first round. Last year happens all over again and Cassel ****s up. I guarantee you, people will rant and rave about how much he sucks and dream about having that elite QB. So what difference does it make if we go 9-7 lose in the first round(we went nowhere, no SB) or 5-11(same thing, went nowhere, no SB, BUT increase our chances of landing a top QB prospect). Id rather take the 5-11 and increase my chances of landing the top QB prospect IF it betters our chances of going to the bowl in the future, why not?

*you draft elite QBs in the first. most of the time anyway. The Tom Bradys are rare. I know everybody here HOPES Stanzi becomes that guy. But why not draft a QB in the first? If that guy becomes good, and Stanzi becomes good the qb position becomes even more solidified. Then what will people say?:D

RedThat 08-29-2011 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7860376)
You do realize that even if we somehow go 3-13......Cassel would still be our starting QB next year? Unless he completely shits the bed and throws 40 INTs and 2 TDs.....they're not cutting bait. They'll blame it on our pass protection and you would watch this team take a LT with the #1 pick.

Id ****ing cry if that happened

Reerun_KC 08-29-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860465)
And what if that elite QB becomes good? It can go the other way too.

We screw up the season and get Luck he becomes a great quarterback and he takes this team to the promised land.

here is the way I see it, we go 9-7 this year. Okay, we make the playoffs,again, win the division and lose again in the first round. Last year happens all over again and Cassel ****s up. I guarantee you, people will rant and rave about how much he sucks and dream about having that elite QB. So what difference does it make if we go 9-7 lose in the first round(we went nowhere, no SB) or 5-11(same thing, went nowhere, no SB, BUT increase our chances of landing a top QB prospect). Id rather take the 5-11 and increase my chances of landing the top QB prospect IF it betters our chances of going to the bowl in the future, why not?

*you draft elite QBs in the first. most of the time anyway. The Tom Bradys are rare. I know everybody here HOPES Stanzi becomes that guy. But why not draft a QB in the first? If that guy becomes good, and Stanzi becomes good the qb position becomes even more solidified. Then what will people say?:D

In your world, you cant play the "what if" game...

Buns 08-29-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 7860465)
And what if that elite QB becomes good? It can go the other way too.

We screw up the season and get Luck he becomes a great quarterback and he takes this team to the promised land.

here is the way I see it, we go 9-7 this year. Okay, we make the playoffs,again, win the division and lose again in the first round. Last year happens all over again and Cassel ****s up. I guarantee you, people will rant and rave about how much he sucks and dream about having that elite QB. So what difference does it make if we go 9-7 lose in the first round(we went nowhere, no SB) or 5-11(same thing, went nowhere, no SB, BUT increase our chances of landing a top QB prospect). Id rather take the 5-11 and increase my chances of landing the top QB prospect IF it betters our chances of going to the bowl in the future, why not?

*you draft elite QBs in the first. most of the time anyway. The Tom Bradys are rare. I know everybody here HOPES Stanzi becomes that guy. But why not draft a QB in the first? If that guy becomes good, and Stanzi becomes good the qb position becomes even more solidified. Then what will people say?:D

The difference is, you have ass for lips, and shit for brains


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