Broncos are starting Orton because they don't want to pay Tebow
 

This is hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. It will be even funnier if they dump Tebow to draft a "cheaper" franchise QB.

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=192962

Broncos are starting Orton because Tebow sucks.

LMAO the dooonkeys are such a ****ing joke.

Tebow was pretty decent last year and this preseason.

No reason to keep him on the bench and halt his development.

Except DOLLADOLLABILLSYALL

Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble, drive a wedge in donkeyland on the double.

Who in the world wrote Tebow's contract? Oh, wait, nevermind.

WTF...he won't play for mana? What kind of messiah is he?

yeah, THAT'S the reason that he's not starting.

You know it's funny. An incentive laden contract in an ideal world is a win/win situation. You get the job done, you get paid accordingly. Signing that type of contract is almost admirable.

Then you hear this and it gives players/agents ammunition to avoid that kind of thing, and we end up giving guarantees to everyone, bums and stars alike.

And to be clear, I don't buy into this theory.

It has to be more profitable for the franchise to win, particularly with a guy that has potential to become a fan favorite. I don't believe NFL franchises would sacrifice wins to save $11m.

So, in summary, Tebow was drafted as a Vick like project, meaning they need to teach him how to throw a football.
The incentive laden contracts for Tebow and Quinn prevent either from furthering their careers and Tebow still can't throw a football.
Nice job Broncos :clap:

I, for one, admire the Bronco's new approach to ****ing over their fans, players, and selves with horrible contracts and average players (and the combination of the two).

I guess when you have over 111,000 posts your emphasis is on quantity over quality. This OP is just plain stupid.

Read something speculative on the OrangeMane, better go post about it on Chiefs Planet.

Well if Tebow was better than Orton, I believe Tebow would start.

But he's not....not even close from what I've heard.

Still funny they drafted him though....no one in their right minds thought he was gonna be shit in the NFL...at most a project...and the donks spend a 1st on him ROFL.

LMAO What, did they kick you off Orangemane again so you have to troll here now?

If I understand the cap correctly, the Brocos are charged at the higher number anyway

I thought they only drafted him anyway for the jersey sales

Trade a 2nd and a 3rd and a 4th to use a 1st on a guy that you bench so his salary doesn't escalate. Sounds almost as stoopid as taking Jamarcus at #1....

It's in the same ballpark right now.

...or maybe Tebow looked like crap in the preseason. Occam's Razor leads me to believe that's most likely the case.

Yes, but losing an additional $11m of cap space is not the same thing as losing an additional $11m of cash.

This one is my favorite...
"Well ya... we all know this was the truth that were paying attention. Tebow sure did well statistically in the preseason for being so awful.

Funny or the worst part is fans bought into the media created Tebow is terrible talk... It's pretty sad what people will believe without seeing things for or with their own eyes.

I do a little thing called the eye test. I see what my eyeball tell me.. My eyeballs tell me Tebow isn't near as far off or as bad as some of you want to pretend... He will make a great qb next year. for who I am not sure.. I hope it's the broncos. I think the broncos go 10-6 worst case 8-8 this year... the media says they are 4-12 to 5-11, I just don't see it... Anyway more people should try the eyeball test then believing what people write that they don't know and don't know their motive..."

Donk fan has to be the dumbest fan base in the NFL...outside of Raider Nation.

No one really can say, because there was never a fair competition:

Facts:

1. Tebow showed great potential at the end of last season.

2. Orton looked like shit.

3. The Broncos barely let Tebow play any meaningful snaps this preseason, including none with the starters.

4. Tebow played pretty well in those snaps.

The excuse for Orton "winning" the starting job is that he outperformed Tebow in training camp.

I've literally never heard of a legit "open competition" with one of the participants getting garbage for preseason snaps.

This is all about DOLLADOLLABILLSYALL

I'll say it: As a Chiefs fan I would be more frightened of Tebow.

This. Also, the only time that Tebow got any snaps in training camp with the 1s was when Orton missed practice for the birth of his daughter. There never was any competition.

Orton started out the year on fire, but they weren't winning because of their defense. Hence Tebow comes in as QBotF. I think when people are saying he did horrible, they are saying that his mechanics are still poor even in his second year in the league.

Anyone that thinks Tebow is on the bench only due to $ is insane.

Don't think you understand it correctly. Bonuses are charged against the cap under their likelihood to be earned. That bonus is not likely to be earned and is only charged at a small percentage. If it's not earned at all it is credited back to the team the following season.

No biggie, Players are sat all the time because of incentives in contracts at the end of the season. Plus, Orton is just plain and simply the better player.

If they really didn't want to PAY him they wouldn't have just paid him the roster bonus he just got and cut him instead.

Precisely. Otherwise, a dozen overpaid QB's in this league would be riding the bench.

Quite right, Mile High Moron.

He's also on the bench because he sucks.

If you were a Broncos fan, what would you want them to do?

I would want them to roll the dice with Tebow. They aren't making the playoffs either way, so you might as well see what you have. If he sucks, you're in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, so that works as well.

If Red That was a Bronco fan.

I have a noobtastic question. Why is GifHorse neg repped to high heaven?

I don't think that's really the issue here. I think it's more the fact that the guy that lead the team to a 3-10 record last year and was very close to being traded is suddenly the unquestioned starter, while neither of the guys that were supposed to be competing for the #1 spot are given any shot at competing at all. It's just weird, honestly.

Seems to me like the Broncos organization is scared that Tebow will succeed. Alluding to the playoffs and awards section of his contract. Either way I don't want him in Denver. They will fail for years to come.

I think the thread title should read,

Broncos are starting Orton because they don't want to pay Tebow since he sucks even though he tries, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really,hard....at least 2 more reallys harder than any other QB in the NFL.

Mod abuse.

Wondering the same thing.

Clay looks good in Red.

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So you are quoting some random poster from a random Broncos message board???

And whoever posted that is a moron. The Broncos would LOVE to start Tebow because he is the most marketable athlete alive. A productive, Pro Bowl caliber Tebow would give Pat Bowlen more cash than he knows what to do with. He just isn't ready yet...... Why tarnish your golden goose when you can wait a couple of years and reap the benefits?

It's in the spirit of Red Friday.

Golden goose? You're telling me if the Broncos get their shot at Andrew Luck next year they won't take him?

There is no platinum goose, dildo-eater

They probably would, but the entire reason they are starting Kyle Orton is because he gives us a better chance to win.

Tebow isn't ready, the Broncos wished he was the best pure QB on the roster at this time but he just isn't right now.

He wasn't even the 2nd best pure QB on the roster and that is quite sad. He was 4th best according to a twitter post, so it must be true :)

But quoting you as fact is correct? LMAO

GoChiefs made this thread to sound like it was fact. And it is 100% bullshit speculation.

LMAO

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Precisely:thumb:

If they truly wanted Luck "for sure" (which I'm sure they do)they would start Tebow every game this season. But Tebow is sooooooooooooo bad it would be too obvious and Elway has to show at least he sees what everyone else sees and how can you start this overrated college QB who can't throw or move the ball while Orton effectively produces???

It comes down to "playing to win" at all times and the fans won't tolerate failure for very long. How did the donkey fans feel when Orton went 6-0 ?

we should help them out.

Orton or Tebow can come help the Chiefs.

I haven't seen anyone playing that position on the Chiefs getting the job done.

You've got to be smoking to think Tebow wouldn't be 4th string on our lineup.

Actually we could really use a decent TE. Tebow would probably start ahead of Pope.

Am I safe in assuming Clay is the only one on this board that watched Tebow's starts last year and his snaps in the preseason this year? He's the only person that seems to have an opinion of Tebow that is anywhere close to realistic.

I think Tim Tebow sucks to be honest with you.

I also think not even giving the guy a chance to take the job away from a guy who is taking the Broncos nowhere is bush league.

Vailpass with his usual reading fail.

So what's realistic? Ex-QB announcers are saying the guy has horrible footwork, accuracy and is nowhere near where he should be. Is it realistic to think that in this age that a QB can have a 50% completion rating and be effective?

Bottom line, Fox isnt creative nor offensive minded enough to know what to do with the guy... the day mcdaniels left is the day Tebows future in dinver took a dive.

He should follow josh to stl next year or he'll be a new age Eric Crouch that doesnt fit anywhere, at any position.

LOL. Well that's awesome. That username is genius though.

The 4th stringer?
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Don't worry, he'll be 3rd string ahead of DeJesus soon enough. Tebow'll never be able to score four touchdowns in a single game like Ole #33.

Of course you do. I think Cassel, Palko and Stanzi suck, that's the nature of rivals. I'm just saying that "played pretty well" is much more accurate than "can't throw."

So the "chatter of Tebow being terrible" was somehow planted by the front office to....everyone on the planet? I guess they just brainwashed us somehow. Maybe they paid off T-Mobile to send some kind of signal in their commercials to make us all think Tim Tebow sucks? It definitely might have something to do with that really hot girl in the pink dresses. She always has given me a funky vibe. Well...a couple of funky vibes. Man she's hot.

Most Chiefs fans here think Cassel, Palko, and Stanzi suck.

Well, that's probably because they do.

Meh, they'd still be ahead of Tebow in terms of QB play. Who was that scrub 3rd stringer that was outplaying him????

Maybe so, but I'm holding out hope for Dick Stanzi.

I think it is clear to almost everyone that Orton gives them a better chance to win some games this year. And if they go with Tebow, it really means they don't care about wins this year, but want to see what they have in Tebow for the future. If that is true, why do they start Dawkins? Or Bailey? They give them a better chance of winning, but probably won't be around when the Broncos are ready to win (if Tebow is in fact, a good QB). It they care about wins (and I assume most of the fanbase does care about wins), then they play Orton until such time as Tebow shows that he can digest the entire playbook, run the entire offense, go through is progressions and make accurate throws.

If you're talking about the article that quoted "confidential sources" and was refuted by the Broncos the very next day, it was Adam Weber. If you're going by actual performance, Tebow clearly outperformed everyone he was given an opportunity to compete against.

It's NOT clear that Orton gives them the better chance.

They never gave Tebow an opportunity to show what he could do.

It's really hilarious to see this all play out. I'm telling you man, Elways sabotaging the Qb position to make sure he's the only Bronco in his lifetime to ever get a ring. Nothing else makes sense, unless Horseface believes Orton and this team can take them to promised land THIS YEAR. Which I have to doubt, but then I see these decisions....and wonder.

Has he earned that? Second year and his mechanics are still not there.

He was decent for a rookie in three games last year....hell yes he earned a shot.

He was put in there to see what he could do in a lost season. If he still has the poor mechanics and will not hit for a good % of his passes, he hasn't done the work. He hasn't earned a shot just because he's a first rounder.

LMAO