Missouri town calls on KU to drop Jayhawks mascot
 

I thought this was an interesting read....

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/18...ylink=misearch

OSCEOLA, Mo. | City officials in Osceola, a southwest Missouri town of about 950 people, are asking the University of Kansas to drop its "Jayhawk" mascot because the name refers to a group of domestic terrorists that nearly destroyed the city 150 years ago.

In a resolution approved earlier this week, the Osceola Board of Alderman also asks the University of Missouri to educate Kansas on the history of the "Border War" and let people know there was more to it than William Quantrill's raid on Lawrence, Kan., in 1863.

Resentment still runs deep for residents of Osceola over the Sept. 22-23, 1861, siege by U.S. Sen. Jim Lane and a band of about 2,000 "Jayhawkers" that left a dozen men executed on the town square and the community itself a smoking ruin

"I grew up here, and it is all I heard about when I was attending grade school and high school," Mayor Larry Hutsler told the Columbia Daily Tribune. "Everyone knew who was responsible."

In the resolution, the city condemns "the celebration of this murderous gang of terrorists by an institution of 'higher education' in such a brazen and malicious manner."

Osceola had a population of about 2,500 before the 1861 attack, but fewer than 200 remained afterward. The city has never had as many residents as it did before the raid.

The attack was only one of several deadly episodes in the "Border War" over slavery between the two states. Lane was a radical abolitionist who formed his own militia at the outbreak of the Civil War and used it to punish Missourians.

When Quantrill's band attacked Lawrence — Lane's hometown — two years after the Jayhawkers' raid in Missouri, many of the guerrillas shouted "Remember Osceola" as they were killing about 200 of the city's men and burning down a quarter of the town.

The Osceola resolution asks Missourians to stop spelling Kansas or KU with a capital letter, since "neither is a proper name or a proper place." In the resolution, both words are lowercase throughout.

Rick Reed of Osceola, who brought the resolution to the aldermen, doesn't think the measure will persuade the University of Kansas to dump the Jayhawk.

"I don't expect them to do anything," he said. "They are so arrogant and uppity."

A Kansas spokeswoman downplayed the Civil War origin of the school's mascot.

"A Jayhawk is a blue bird with a red head and a big yellow beak that wears boots," spokeswoman Jill Jess said in an email to the Daily Tribune. "It would be hard to confuse it with anyone with terrorist intent, though we admit we have been terrorizing the Tigers on the basketball court for some time. Tigers have been known to kill people. Bears, too."

Missouri's Tigers mascot also has Civil War roots, named for the Unionist militia set up to protect Columbia from guerrilla raids, the newspaper reported.

I have to say that, if you were that upset over a college's mascot, why would you wait 100+ years to say something?

"A Jayhawk is a blue bird with a red head and a big yellow beak that wears boots," spokeswoman Jill Jess said in an email to the Daily Tribune. "It would be hard to confuse it with anyone with terrorist intent, though we admit we have been terrorizing the Tigers on the basketball court for some time. Tigers have been known to kill people. Bears, too."

Those silly slavers...

We attack Sedalia at high noon fellow troops.

Clearly with all of America's problems the Jayhawk is something we need to be worried about.

LMAO

This is a job for Homeland Security

Me thinks they have been eating some rotten cheese and its gone to their head

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Yes we are... winning 2 titles in the last 40 years in the one sport we're good at while bowing out eleventy hundred times to mid majors on a national stage makes us arrogant and uppity.

Quotes like that are half the reason I love beating MU at anything.

Inferiority complex much Oseola?

You leave my hometown alone, you vicious rapscallion.

Only in the news because the 150th anniversary of Lane's sacking of Osceola is Thursday/Friday. If you read the whole thing, it sounds like this is a "get facts out there" attempt. They don't expect anything to actually happen.

Osceola was a big, growing town before the raid. It never recovered from the attack (in which all but 8 of the several hundred buildings in town were burned down) and then the depopulation of Missouri counties a few years later.

OK we'll leave Sedalia alone. I like Sedalia anyway. Oh hell wasn't supposed to say that.

How about Chillicothe? The Hardees there ****ed up my order once...

Ahhhh inbreeding still alive and well even outside of WV!

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They have had 150 years to get over it, though. That's kind of lame.

Still, it's a good enough reason to sack Lawrence again. :bang:

Yeah. I'm not going out of my way to defend Osceola.

Sedalia, on the other hand? You can pry my cold, dead corpse away from the burned-out shell of the Thompson Hills shopping center.

Sedalia - it's a nice place to stop and piss if you're driving between Lee's Summit and Jeff City. :p

150 years of butthurt.... wow....

Remember, we have all the B-2 bombers here at Whiteman. Watch your ass...

Yeah, pretty much. Must be why my folks think I don't get home enough or something...

I'm not sure how many of the residents now are actually descended from residents at the time (it can't be many - there were only 200 Osceolans still in the town after Lane burned almost all the buildings and took every item of value away).

I understand "not forgetting" if you're related to folks who lived through it. Otherwise? Just an amusing little side note.

I guess a positive that could come from it is that maybe it helps educate people about the actual Border War a little bit better? Maybe some of the actual hatred would boil over if we'd all admit that both sides of the state line were home to roving bands of murdering, thieving thugs...

That would free us to get back to sports-driven hatred. Which is what it's really all about.

Just LOL!!! Maybe some tribes should ask the Chiefs to give up their name too. It makes more sense...

The Chiefs weren't named after Indians, though. Then again, I guess Jayhawks weren't named after a band of murderers, either.

They're not??? Well they don't dress up like Navy Chiefs (or where's the khaki??). And from everything I've seen, it's all about Indian and tribe...

What's the "Arrow" part of Arrowhead all about???

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Don't sell the lovely town of Lamonte short...

Yeah! What about Knob Noster, or Warrensburg, or Lone Jack??? Huh?
And in Centerview, you can rent a bus full of naked chicks that will give you beers and rub up against you!
I'm not kidding!
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LMAO

Actually, I guess they were, in a roundabout way...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...as_City_Chiefs

After three seasons in Dallas, Texas, it was apparent that Dallas couldn’t support two teams. Hunt investigated opportunities to move his team to several cities for the 1963 season, including Miami, Florida, Atlanta, Georgia, Seattle, Washington and New Orleans, Louisiana. Hunt wanted to find a city to which he could commute easily from Dallas, and when he was unable to secure Tulane Stadium because the university didn’t want its football program to compete with a pro team, he turned to Kansas City, Missouri, where Mayor H. Roe Bartle persuaded him to move to the Midwest.

The negotiations in Kansas City were conducted in secrecy. On several occasions Hunt and Jack Steadman were in Kansas City and met with businessmen, without the general public's knowledge. Bartle introduced Hunt as "Mr. Lamar" in all the meetings with other Kansas City businessmen. Steadman was introduced as "Jack X."

The support the team received from the Kansas City community before the team announced the move was extraordinary. Hunt made the move dependent upon the ability of Mayor Bartle and the Kansas City community to guarantee him 35,000 in season ticket sales. Hunt had set this number, being that it was the Texans' average attendance at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas. An ambitious campaign took shape to deliver on Bartle’s guarantee to Hunt of tripling the season-ticket base the Texans had enjoyed in Dallas. Kansas City’s mayor also promised to add 3,000 permanent seats to Municipal Stadium, as well as 11,000 temporary bleacher seats. Along with Bartle, a number of other prominent Kansas Citians stepped forward to aid in the efforts, putting together more than 1,000 workers to sell season tickets.

Bartle called to his office 20 business leaders and called upon them to form an association later known as "The Gold Coats", whose sole objective was to sell and take down payments on the 35,000 season tickets required. "The Gold Coats" had to sell season tickets to people without knowing the team name, where it was coming from, who the owner was, which football league they would play in, who the players or coaches were, when the team would play its first game in Kansas City, or where it would play. Hunt gave Bartle a four-month deadline to accomplish the sales. Bartle and "The Gold Coats" made good in only 8 weeks. Later, Hunt admitted he was really only hoping for 20,000, for which he still would have moved the franchise. On May 22, Hunt announced he was moving the franchise to Kansas City, Missouri.

Hunt, with a roster replete with players who had played college football in Texas, wanted to maintain a lineage to the team’s roots and wanted to name the club the Kansas City Texans. "The Lakers stayed the Lakers when they moved from Minnesota to California," he reasoned. "But Jack Steadman convinced me that wasn’t too smart. It wouldn’t sell." The team was renamed the Kansas City Chiefs—one of the most popular suggestions Hunt received in a name-the-team contest. A name also considered at the time for the team was the Kansas City Mules.

The name, "Chiefs" is not only derived from a fan contest, but also from Mayor Bartle, who 35 years prior, founded the Native American-based honor society known as The Tribe of Mic-O-Say within the Boy Scouts of America organization, which earned him the nickname, "The Chief."

They can eat shit~

**** Osceola and every stupid asshole that lives there.

You do realize that a jayhawk isn't a real bird, right?

Its not? Dammit. Next your are going to tell me there isn't Santa Claus.


Bye nothing takes the sting off of yesterdaythan a good old border war smack thread.

Ok, there are obviously too many people in Osceola with way too much time on their hands.

That being said, Osceolans should be happy in a few years when KU is the driving force in the Mountain West. :D

They already have. Same with the Redskins.

It's still real to me, damnit!

Pfffttt. You can take your funny little joke and set right next to all of the Tiger's Big XII Championship trophies.

Oh, ... wait, ...

:D

This thread has inspired me to have BBQ chicken for lunch. :)

I blame the Chiefs.
Everybody's panties are up in a bunch this AM, so the Tiger and Jayhawk fans are taking turns smacking each other around....

Crispy on the outside, of course... ;)

I pissed off the good people of Osceola when I suggested that if SMU was going to be referred to as Southern Meth, perhaps Mizzou could be nicknamed Northern Meth.

the meth must be great this time of year

Orange chicken is good, too.

Why, look everyone. It's Jim Lane, resurrected!

Once wasn't enough? :D

The best thing to ever come out of the boarder wars, is the movie Out Law Josey Wales

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Is that the town where they filmed the movie Winter Bone? It really does not matter that movie pretty much sums up most of the state~

:spit: I reckon so.

Anyone else feel like the entrance to the town says

Welcome to Osceola
Now get off my lawn!

it's a little surprising to see you trolling so hard. you generally always stay away from the smaque.

the only good thing in osceola is the cheese.

I must live in a bubble. I hate that my state is represented best by something like that. I don't see it, I don't know anyone who uses it (let alone makes it), and I don't see that many areas where people are so "back woods".

I do but bullshit like this pisses me off a tad~

I went to high school in the county that winter's bone was based on (christian county) and can assure you that, while it's no metropolis, like 99% of things in life, it's not as it's portrayed on tv.

you think they're being serious? take a chill pill and consider the source.

That was a cheapshot on the state, but I have traveled around some of the sticks in your state and that movie is not far off from the backwoods. My brother and I bought a semi truck load of firewood one year from some backwoods people and I was glad to get out of there. I also worked in Bela Vista Arkansas for awhile which is right on the boarder. There are some strange folks around them parts. If you cater to the klan you will fit right in...I dont~

dude, that's the case in half of the states in the union. to single out a single state because it fits your pro-KU purposes is pointless. hell, there are some areas of kansas that fit that profile PERFECTLY.

Nothing wrong with McDonald County Missouri.

I am not pro KU and I have never met a klan member in Kansas that I am aware of. I am sure they are there, but those I met in the south end of your state were damn right proud of it. Confederate flag flying sheet wearing assholes. It was even worse in north Arkansas~

So all of Missouri sucks because of your backwoods experience.

so where's your dog in this hunt? that's the whole point of this thread, yeah? forget the rednecks, forget the kluxxers, forget the sports-smaque. this is about the history behind the incident/border war.

Notice the start of the post, I said it was a cheapshot~

When do threads ever stay on track. :p

And it's this reason I hate movies like Winter's Bone.

I was born and raised in Kansas and there is damn sure two sides to that story. For them to play victim and slam Jayhawkers is silly. They would have a better case if the school went by red legs, and they would still be full of shit~

Well, confederate flags are somewhat rare in Kansas.

I don't think anyone ever said there wasn't two sides. Even the article itself mentions the attack on Lawrence. I just posted it because I thought it was interesting. I knew of Missouri's attack on Kansas, but I'd never heard of this one. Lawrence is thriving, while Osceola is...well....not. I think whoever said this was done more to raise the awareness and less to actually have anything done about it has the right idea.

You see them, and I always wonder why they do sport them as it makes them appear as a racist idiot~

I need some help here, as I am not that familiar with the OSCEOLA, Mo. residents. Most of the people I have met in Missouri are pretty bright and reasonable.

Do they really think there is a chance in hell of KU abandoning the Jayhawk?

Really?

The Osceola resolution asks Missourians to stop spelling Kansas or KU with a capital letter, since "neither is a proper name or a proper place." In the resolution, both words are lowercase throughout.

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The only thing I know about Osceola was to slow the hell down when I was passing it going to and from college because there were always cops and radar on highways. Oh, and the cheese store.

Yes, and the chiefs and Redskins should change their name because it offends the natives.

You say "red legs" and "Jayhawkers" like there's a difference between them.

Murderous thieves using the abolitionist movement as cover. The. End.

Nuke them.........pussys.

I was getting ready to say nearly exactly the same thing. It's a town I drive through (slowing down to the speed limit) on my way to and from KC. I've stopped there for gas before, but I've never even had their cheese.

Me either. I just associate that with the BILLION road signs. LMAO

LMAO in the world known as frazod~

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Yeah, frazod actually reads books on the subject.

The wrong books~

So, tell us, what is the actual history of the border war?

I'm sorry. Would you prefer "thieving killers"?

And I recognize my side was no better. But if there are any Missouri teams calling themselves Bushwhackers, I am unaware of them.