Baby kidnapped from home in KC
 

How is this not a topic of discussion on a KC message board?

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7940JI20111005

KANSAS CITY, Mo | Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:47pm EDT
(Reuters) - Police searched for a 10-month old girl feared abducted from her bedroom in Kansas City on Tuesday but canceled an Amber Alert issued earlier in the day.

Lisa Irwin was discovered missing from her crib in her bedroom at 4 a.m. on Tuesday, triggering the alert and an intense foot search in wooded areas near her home involving 100 local and state law officers and the FBI.

Police said it appeared someone had entered and left through a bedroom window and evidence suggested an abduction.

"We are pulling out all the stops and doing all we can do find Lisa," said Sgt. Stacey Graves, a police spokeswoman. "We have not been able to make any kind of family connection."

In a later statement, Kansas City police said that while the search would continue throughout the night, the Amber Alert was "no longer necessary", adding that such an alert was designed to raise awareness early in an investigation.

Lisa had been living with her parents, who were part of the search for her, Graves said. Other relatives have been interviewed by authorities.

Police have spread the word about Lisa's disappearance through the media and on electronic bill boards above major highways in the area.

Lisa is described as having blue eyes and blond hair and was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with white kittens on it. Police are asking that anyone with information call the TIPS Hotline at 816-474-8477.

That's ****ed. I can't imagine coming into one of my daughter's rooms at 4 am and finding her gone.

[QUOTE=Iowanian;7970009]How is this not a topic of discussion on a KC message board?

Beer me doesn't like to post info about his daughter? :shrug:

knots in my stomach reading that

JFC

seriously though - whats craziest about this story is the lack of motivation and leads. It's so random.

I heard when they canceled the Amber alert last night, one neighbor reported seeing someone walking on the street with a baby in only diapers. (which doesn't add to the last seen wearing discription)

I'm just surprised that it's been national news for an entire day+ and hasn't been mentioned here.


I travel and am gone on occasion and roll in during the middle of the night on occasion and usually pop in to check on the kids before I go to bed. I can't fathom the fear, anger, confusion and plethora of other feelings it would cause to realize a child was gone from the safety I promise them at home. It makes me feel physically ill to read stories like this one.

I don't have kids, but if I did and this happened, I'd want to the be the one who found the suspect, and not the cops.

I don't think a parent would be able to sleep until they knew where the child was.....and once found, I can't imagine the rage, even if the child was unharmed.

It will probably having me sit up with every pop, thump and sigh in the night for a while.

People say this all the time, but chances are you are dealing with someone who will kill you. You really have little chance of "exacting your revenge".

Your probably right I would let the police do their job, but I would so be the guy who sneaks a gun in the courtroom to shoot the SOB if it turns out bad.

Huh? You can't imagine the rage and adrenaline that would be going through me if I found the guy who murdered, raped or kidnapped one of my daughters.

Blonde haired girls gotta be worth six figures on the open market, right? ;)

All I'm saying is the chance of you finding a person who would do this...unarmed...in plain sight so you could have your way...is highly unlikely. If you did find him, the odds are probably in his favor to take you out, and anger and rage only make you stupid.

Because someone who abducts a young defenseless child is a tough guy? I think not.

We're talking about reality in the story.

Honestly, I hope to never find out what I'm truly capable of doing to another human being in a event like you describe. I'd prefer my children remain safe and unharmed. Someone hurts one of my kids and I promise you barbarians would cringe. In real life, I doubt very many grieving or angry parents get a chance of as much as a good look across the room.


I feel pretty badly for the people in this situation. I can only hope it's someone who wanted a child, has remorse and returns her unharmed.

Anger and rage means that he leaves without his head.....and I'm not joking.

I think I can speak for all other fathers of blonde haired blue eyed little girls when I tell you to perform a painful marital act upon yourself.

I hear ya. When mine were little I had this completely irrational fear of somebody breaking in and stealing them in the night. Maybe cause that's the only time that none of us were awake and making sure that nobody did. Horrible to read about this.

Just yesterday a man beat a 15month child to death here in Salina. The cops cought him at 4am this morning and booked him. I would have just shot the mother ****er.

In each knee first before finishing him off after about 10 mins right? :P

Glad to hear it was all a misunderstanding from post #1. As a father for a 14th month old girl, I felt a little sick in my stomach just reading that headline.

Not trying to go internet tuff guy, but if the odds aren't in my favor to take out one guy, one on one....

do you pay taxes?

too many kids with video cameras out there to do that shit anymore....

Why are you assuming I, or any other father, would go baby kidnapper hunting with an empty hand?

So, what makes that different then the parent finding the kidnapper?



I would kill a person for kidnapping my child. I don't want my family living in fear when the piece of shit gets out of jail. The same goes for anyone breaking into my house.

In my house (when I have one), my children (if I have them) will have very secure windows when they are young.

If not, I may even have lockable bars installed, with a key right next to the window in case of a fire/emergency in which a window escape would be necessary.

This is very scary, it happened about half a mile from my house. The news trucks are all swarmed on my exit on 210.

Lighten up tough guy...

FYP

douchebag

And let the guy miss out on 15 years in general population as a known child killer. No way.

I will find this baby with my Cassel senses.

It mentions that she had been living with her parents. That seems like a weird thing to say in the article. Don't most infants live with their parents..?

I think that was to clarify she lived with BOTH parents, as to avoid the majority of the public's opinion it was an estranged parent that took her in the middle of the night.

Iowanian and I don't see eye to eye very often, but this is absolute truth. Hell, I am over 60 but my shotgun is much younger and it rarely misses.

I got money on the parents being involved somehow. It's not exactly common for 10 month old babies to up and disappear in the middle of the night. I know it sucks for the parents, but they are suspects #1 and #2 for me at the moment.

Maybe one of the exes from one of their previous marriages?

I saw an interview with the parents this morning. Sometimes you watch one of those and see false tears and something doesn't sound right, but I believe these people.

Has the local news given any tips or hints at what they think happened? what I saw sounds like some asshole slipped in through a window, took their baby and 3 cell phones. Odd.

Yea, its kind of odd. I didnt read anywhere where it said how the intruder entered? Was the door locked? and if so, wouldnt you hear someone break in?

The story this morning mentions the intruder stole their cell phones so they couldnt dial 911.

They entered thru the babys window.

The cell phone thing is just strange. So at 4am, someone entered the child's room through a window, grabbed 3 cell phones, and left without anyone noticing? Don't most people sleep with their cell phones close by? Story just seems fishy to me...

It's the sad reality of this world that I automatically distrust the parents. But I feel like 9 out of 10 times, the parents end up having something to do with a child's disappearance like this one. I hope I'm wrong.

I hate to say this, but for the moment I agree. And if it not the parents, it has to be someone with knowledge of a lot of things at the house... including knowing a 10 month old lived there.

I understand what you're saying, but...

http://ap.cjonline.com/pstories/us/2...96040150.shtml

Someone could get our cell phones in 1 swoop, as they charge overnight downstairs on the same counter.

It also seems odd that someone could climb out of a window with a 10 month old without it waking up crying.

If not the parents, it had to have been someone close to the fam.

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Aren't there two 10 year old boys living there too? Could one of them be a psyco kid?

Where would a 10 year old hide a baby that the parents or the police wouldn't find/hear?

Why did they feel it necessary to put her height and weight on there? I mean, are the 30lbs., 2'6" numbers really going to help? How much could that possibly help?

"Honey, that suspicious guy over there has a blond haired, blue eyed baby... ohh wait, that baby has to be at least 33lbs. Nevermind."

I got the impression that he thought it was all over since they cancelled the amber alert.

I've always had a dog. Always a big one. I'm sure they didn't have one or the dog would have alerted them to foul play. Dog = good. Doesn't have to be big, but the bigger ones are cooler imo. Also, truly unfortunate that a ground floor window was left unlocked. All in all the whole story does sound a tad fishy, but stranger things have certainly happened.

Hey, sorry to interrupt your Taken/Ransom revenge fantasies with a bit of gallows humor.

Hopefully the kid is returned safely.

In case you aren't in the KC area, the weather here has been great to leave windows open at night.

ftfy

Everyone has a subject that they don't want to joke about, if this was a story about some person losing a foot while hopping on a train, most people would be all over it making jokes. But this is a story about a little baby taken in the middle of the night, any parent alive gets the cold sweats just thinking about that situation happening to them, so for a large part of the world, not a joking manner.

Fair enough. Shovel officially laid down.

Of course, everyone is entitled to do/say whatever they want. Don't let the bride of Iowa stop ya ;)

Dang, don't watch the interview from this morning, darn allergies.....

I dont understand why the canceled the amber alert so quickly??

I thought that was strange too.

Amber alerts just make Kidnappers never bring the baby out in public

I think they canceled the alert early becuase it was only intended as a tool to use at the very early stages of the abduction etc. Or, something to that effect etc. I remember hearing something on the news about why it was canceled so early etc

I don't see that is what I've done in this thread at all. I've participated in discussion about this incident and how badly it would suck for the parents.


You can feel free to stuff yourself with a roll of rusty barbed wire though.

Nope, going disagree. He doesn't deserve the air we breath. The quicker he can spend eternity in HELL the better. He can join Hitler in shoving a pineapple up his ass.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — The parents of a missing 10-month-old Kansas City girl made a tearful plea for the child's safe return Wednesday, nearly two days after she disappeared, begging her abductor to drop her off someplace safe.

Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, speaking to the media for the first time since their daughter Lisa went missing, asked the public to call police with even the smallest piece of information. The child was last seen in her crib Monday night, and police have no solid leads in the case.

"Please drop her off anywhere," Jeremy Irwin said calmly during a brief news conference at a makeshift police command center about a half-mile from their home. "We don't care. Somewhere safe so she can come home."

Clutching a purple Barney doll that presumably belonged to her daughter, Bradley tearfully begged for the child's return, saying: "We just want our baby back." The couple promised they'd ask no questions.

The parents aren't suspects in the case, police said.

Capt. Steve Young said investigators have no new leads despite repeated searches of nearby woods and homes — and the frustration was evident.

"Everything we've thought of doing we've probably done two or three times," he said. "Over 300 law enforcement officers have been involved. They've walked a wooded area three times in shoulder-to-shoulder searches, taken dogs in three times — different dogs each time — and none of those led us anywhere."

He said investigators also have done 300 consensual knock-and-talks, in which officers knocked on doors and asked if they could search the homes. Young said dozens of tips have come in, but many have produced nothing.

Kansas City police spokesman Darin Snapp said a report that a neighbor saw a man in the neighborhood carrying a baby overnight Tuesday "went nowhere."

The child was last seen around 10:30 p.m. Monday when her mother checked on her in her crib. Her father discovered her missing about five hours later, when he got home from a late-night shift at work.

Police have said they are investigating the possibility that someone entered the home through a front window and snatched the baby, but they have not pointed to any sign of forced entry.

Earlier Wednesday, FBI agents clad in white, plastic suits used search dogs as they went into the family's home, a light-green ranch-style home in a cozy neighborhood along a winding street. Young said the suits were to hide the agents' scent from the dogs so they could get original scents of the girl.

An FBI spokeswoman acknowledged the agency was committing significant resources to the search, but declined to discuss any details of the investigation.

Young said investigators interviewed the girl's parents until about 10:30 p.m. Tuesday, but did not take them into custody.

"They were cooperative, but at this point we have next to nothing to go on," he said.

Police said Lisa has blue eyes and blonde hair, is 30 inches tall and weighs around 28 pounds. She was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with pictures of white kittens.

Several police cars were parked along the quiet tree-lined street Wednesday where the family's home is located, an American flag flying in their front yard. Media trucks also were stationed nearby as children returned from school.

About a half dozen law enforcement officers appeared to be canvassing neighbors next door and across the street, coming in and out of their homes and congregating in their front yards. Police also scoured roads, a nearby apartment complex and a wooded area on at least four all-terrain vehicles.

Thelma Beagley, 77, a neighbor, stood in her driveway as detectives searched the family's one-story home. Police also cordoned off neighboring homes with yellow caution tape.

Beagley, whose driveway was covered with children's chalk drawings, said she would periodically see Lisa and her mother out in the yard with another neighbor who also has young children.

"Every so often they would bring little Lisa over so I could see her," Beagley said. "She was just a typical little baby. Kind of bubbly."

Beagley said the child's mother and father seemed to be wonderful parents.

The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children was doing all it could to assist, said center president Ernie Allen.

Allen was cautiously hopeful that Lisa would be found, saying that of the 278 infant abductions nationwide over the past 28 years, only 12 of those children didn't come home safely.

An Amber Alert was issued Tuesday morning but called off after 12 hours. Police said it was a formality because the alerts are designed to raise awareness early in an investigation.

agreed, but everyone in the community should get to shove a pineapple up his ass first.

I'm guessing the perp is someone that either knows the family or has cased them out. Mom checks baby at 10ish, dad gets home about 5ish. Bastard figured there are a few oportunities in that time frame. This is why everyone should have a dog, and everyone should have a gun.

If any of those cell phones are powered on there's no reason the service provider couldn't track its (the cell phone) position down to within a 1/4 mile radius or so.

They should probably look at her facebook.

Does she have a bazillion pics of the kid, is her account just to friends, friends of friends or open for the world to see. In that case, maybe look back and see if they could run down an IP of someone who spent signficant time looking at pics of her kids.....never know.

If they have other kids in the home, it almost would have to be someone they know, an acquaintance of someone they know, or someone they're around with that baby.

Alot of times, aren't these crimes committed by a woman who has recently lost a baby or had a miscarriage?

Some hobo doesn't walk down a neighborhood street, randomly pick a window and take a baby.

I was thinking about that.....hopefully they've got something like "Find my droid".

some of those programs allow the gps to be turned on remotely, even if the phone is turned off and will show you a dot on google maps approximately where the phone is located.


I can't imagine 300 KC law enforcement people wouldn't have already thought of those kind of things though.

The cell phone thing is a dead givaway. There is something on the cell phones the perp doesn't want anyone to see obviously. Therefore, either there was communication with the parent by one of these phones, or there are pics on the phone of the perp. I'm certain the parents have met the person that took the baby

Good point. This clearly isn't a random abduction. There has to be a trail somewhere.

I'm sure that was the first thing they tried.

I've got the most annoying ****ing dog. Barks anytime there is a doorbell or a knock at the door.....but that ****ing thing would be a lifesaver in this situation. My dog would have went apeshit if someone opened my daughters window.

My Catahoula is actually pretty quiet, she doesn’t have much to say unless there’s something to talk about so if I hear any noise out of her there’s something going on. Usually it’s just a treed opossum or a cat rummaging through the trash but I do know when they’re there.

my dogs would go beserk; especially my lab. She went crazy one night when - in the middle of the night - my backpack that I take to work, fell off the chair in the living room. she starting going nuts; I went out to investigate, and she did a entire search of the place; growling and whoofing under her breath etc.

dogs rule

Same here. My Dog is my alarm system. My dog goes off as soon as a car enters the driveway.

I don't know. This seems really odd to me too.

The parents have different last names. According to the mom there is a 5 hour period where someone could have done it. Usually someone doesn't break into a house to rob, and instead decides to abduct and take care of a sleeping baby. They had to know what they where getting before that, and that dad would be at work.

No one else in the whole house hears anything? Most babies cry when awoken in the middle of the night, esp if taken outside thru a window. Did they supposedly walk away with baby, or drive off? No one heard a car?

Then the perp decides to look through the house for cell phones? Whose was the 2nd and 3rd cell phones for? I would assume Dad had his with him. I would also assume most people don't charge their phones together in one place especially in a babies room. Most I would think would be on nightstand next to bed.

Also this:

"Please drop her off anywhere," Jeremy Irwin said calmly during a brief news conference..."

As most have already stated, calm is the last thing you would be with a missing baby somewhere you don't know, with someone you don't know.

Too many variables in the story. I hope everything turns out ok for that babies sake, but this story sounds fishy.

This is definitely sounding more bizarre as time goes on.

This quote doesn't exactly sound confident coming from the investigator....

And the "Drop her off anywhere." line does seem out of place. But who knows what would go through someone's head had they actually had their child kidnapped...