Chiefs get Orton
 

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The Chiefs claimed former Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton on waivers today, according to an NFL source.

ROFL

Solid #2 for next year

You have got to be $hitting me.

:Lin:

Wow, really?

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

I can't believe it. People around here thought he was such a joke before. It will be fun to see how the tune changes. :popcorn:

Orton's not happy...

This season just keeps getting better and better...

I think he'll prove to be as inadequate as Cassel...

Shutup ****.

I don't like Orton, but when all you have is Tyler Palko and Ricky Stanzi, I think it makes some sense to add a veteran that's played in the league before.

This is bullshit...Orton already has said, if the chiefs pick him up..he won't play.

Really? Haven't seen that. Is there a link in the other Orton thread?

Still changes nothing though. Orton is even worse than Cassel. It just means we'll lose slightly less embarrassingly than with Palko.

I think Orton's a mediocre starter but a fine back-up. I don't see how, given our current situation, that anyone could say this is a bad pick-up.

I still say we should start the kid regardless.

So much for Barkley or RGIII or ...

He was known as a heartless bitch before. Will be interesting to see how much he puts it out on the line for some place he did not want to be.

Oh wait, we saw that in Denver already this season.

Orton's a pro, I think that was just a threat by his agent to get him to land in Chicago. He'll probably report, if for nothing else than to showcase himself for a contract next year. Not reporting will cost him a job and money...

I don't lie Orton much, but I do like this move. I feel like Orton is roughly equal to Cassel. That's not great, but it's certainly better than Palko. And next year, if the Chiefs decide to part ways with Cassel (fingers crossed), Orton will be a solid vet backup/mentor that comes at a much cheaper price than Cassel.

this is scary to think about

Why?? This team will finish 6-10 if a miracle happens! Let's not try to develop Stanzi, no, let's sign a mediocre veteran and shoot for 7-9! Oooh, 7-9, what a season that would be... :banghead:

Orton won't be a back up here next season. He'll be a starter if Cassel is not.

Damn. Just... damn.

I really don't understand this continued argument. If we extend him for next year, you'll have a point. As it is, this doesn't make any difference in the draft.

Ah, found a link citing Clayton:

https://twitter.com/#!/evansilva/sta...92062150815744

Eh, **** him. He'll get a chance to throw to some pretty good WRs and build his stock up a hell of a lot more than he would have in Denver. Maybe he shouldn't have insisted on a re-structured contract and that Miami deal could've gone through.

Beggers can't be choosers, Kyle. We need the help at QB to see what we have on this team. Dunno what to tell ya, sport.

Which is not a bad thing at this point, in my opinion. I don't usually fall into the "lose for draft pick" position. This year, however...

I worry that he'll start and win a game or two and screw us out of draft position.

Orton might be good enough to take us out of contention to draft a QB in the 1st round. Well, to draft Barkley anyway.

This will be a classic thread I believe.

Eh, I can't blame anyone who doesn't want to play for this shittastic franchise, despite all the good WRs.

And I'm going to keep calling him "King Neckbeard."

Christ...

If this is the move that prevents us from drafting a QB in the first round, I swear to God, I will murder Pioli

Thanks DJ...I was going to post the link and u already found it.

From yesterday in the other Orton thread:

He can actually throw a forward pass and he won three less games than Tebow. He won't make much of a difference for us. I highly doubt he's gonna start this week...

I'm with you on that.

My position on that shit has never changed, but that's just me. It's stupid (and not much fun) to root for your team to suck. Period.

Agreed.

I mean hell, worst case scenario is he somehow makes the difference in a couple of games and we win maybe 2 more than we would have. So maybe we'd move down around 6-8 spots in the draft order. At that point we'd probably have to trade up to get a guy (or give up more for a trade up we'd have done anyway). On balance, it costs us maybe a 3rd rounder more than it would have.

I'm willing to go ahead and give up an extra pick or something if it means this team actually playing football with a decent quarterback for several weeks so we'll know for certain where/how we'll need to improve next year.

Guys - 'punting' 6 games costs us massive developmental time, not to mention a significant amount of review and analysis. We can gain a lot of knowledge over these 6 games if the team is committed to doing so.

Would I rather see Stanzi? Yup, but the staff isn't going to go that route. So this is an acceptable alternative, IMO. He's also a guy that would absolutely be a viable option for a year or two while we groom a young QB, especially a project like RGIII.

I will help you. You get the head though

JFC. this organization will NEVER learn.

I haven't seen him much, but I hear a lot of good things about Orton.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7840342

Orton looked like Tom Brady. And that isn't just some homer talk. He played awesome tonight. Tebow isn't at Orton's level right now.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7248544

Jay Cutler has been carried by that defense this year. In those wins he has only thrown for more than 250 yards twice. They would be 11-1 with Kyle Orton.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7109855

Orton should be in the top 10. No doubt about it.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7058378

In NFL history, only K. Warner (2000 season) has thrown for more passing yds than Broncos QB Kyle Orton (1419 yds) thru 4 games

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7003833

I mean like a top 10 QB.

1. Manning
2. Brees
3. Brady
4. Rodgers
5. Rivers
6. Favre
7. Schaub
8. Romo
9. Rapelisburger
10. Orton

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7003808

Not with the way Kyle Orton is playing. Denver will have the best QB on the field 85% of the time this year, that alone will carry us to wins.

We're cursed.

We'll never have a QB we can actually call our own.

:(

Pioli picked him up so McDaniels could chose between Cassel and Orton next year.

I hate this team. ROFL

If Pioli is committed to getting a new QB, he'll pay what it takes to move up for Barkley or whomever else he likes.

The best way to get him to commit to the new QB would be for a guy like Orton to come in and establish that it truly was a Cassel problem and not a line problem or a weapons problem or a coaching problem, blah blah blah.

Orton does nothing to preclude a 1st round QB, he may just make one slightly more expensive. In the process, he could also effectively slam the book shut on the Cassel era by playing quality football.

- It's not a guarantee that Orton is even going to report.
- Even if he does.....he won't be starting for at least one more game.
- If the FO doesn't draft a QB because they claimed Orton....then they never planned on it in the first place.

No it does not. We are not going to the playoffs wth this team if we have rodgers qbing us this year.

The smart thing would of been to open the books to what stanzi wants to do and let him sling it to ourwrs. Give him an audition to compete for next year, then draft a starter and let them battle it out.

Orton wouldhave to win out and us get the playoffs for this to be worth it. But that solvs what? No way we win a playoff game with crennel and muir. They would get outcoached. Then add the fact orton would have to cheerlead the d players to not break all the time.

I mean playing our young guys for experience in a lostseason is dumb I guess. Would suck for them to get that and then add our injured players from this year to compete next. Well ad sme competent coaches.

****. This is dumb. I want all caches and egoli gone.

Sure it is just try it. Seriously **** this team. OTW is right on in his post.

Nothing to add. Just wanted in.

I'm interested to see if Orton shows up. Or perhaps we claimed him, with the goal of trading him to Chicago for a late-round pick? Can that even be done?

****ing this.

I am unclear on the whole waivers thing. Could we trade Orton to the Bears for a draft pick?

Ang

Is there a chance we get a compensatory pick for him when he becomes a free agent after this year? If so, then good business move. If not, then it is just another move for a non special player.

I BLAME CARSON PALMER

Did Stanzi finger bang Haley's wife at a restaurant or something?

No, the trade deadline has passed.

May cockroaches infect ur ass!!!

how the hell can we trade him when the deadline has passed lol

Playing Stanzi now is dumb in my opinion. And apparently the Chiefs lean my way.

We just see it different ways...

And this actually has nothing to do with Stanzi in my eyes. It's about Tyler Palko, and whether Orton's a better quarterback than he is. Although it would, presumably, be putting Stanzi back into the 3rd spot where I believe he belongs for now.

Stanzi's audition would be the next couple of preseasons. Not anytime in 2011. Because I think it's too soon to make a fair judgment on him.

I HAVE THE WHOLE SCOOP

We should be....yes.

So when does the first Orton buy Chiefs tickets advertisment in Des Moines metro start popping up?

I was wondering if Pioli would go for it. I'm not the least bit surprised Haley would be up for this.

That's the problem with some of these arguments... yeah it could be better in the long run if we went 4-12, but Haley can't worry about that because he might not be here next year if that happens.

Exactly.

Orton wouldn't do anything to prevent a 1st round quarterback. In fact, he could do a lot to ensure one.

Yes, we should.

Yes, there is a chance we get the pick.

I feel sorry for Stanzi. Ten bucks says this move pushes him back onto the inactive list.

I'm not pissed because they got him, he would be a solid number two. BUT I will be EXTREMLY PISSED if this shit keeps us from:

1. Seeing what we have in Stanzi either this year or the start of next year or
2. Drafting a QB

Do you think Kerry Collins will beat out Orton and Cassel to start week 1 of the 2012 season? If Collins doesn't work out, they can always trade a 5th to bring in McNabb.

then this is a good move. who cares if he sits there and does nothing. If we get a 5th or 6th round pick for the guy then I see this as a positive.

The only issue is that this kind of move is indicative of a team that doesn't WANT to groom a young QB.

This isn't an alternative and it isn't acceptable. This is the move of a team that is too scared to take the risk.

It really doesn't matter where we end up in the draft - we could have the #1 overall pick and they'd take a lineman.

No, we need that 5th to pry McDaniels away from St. Louis.

And actually, I feel sorry for Orton, too. The dude has a chance to really help out a competing team this year and here he is stuck in the mire and rape in Kansas City

I'm putting it on the record right now.....but Stanzi, not Orton, is going to stop this team from drafting a 1st round QB. And it's not even because they're going to give him playing time.

You're going to hear this FO say that they drafted Stanzi last year and they want to develop him into a starter.

Well...

...at least he has the ability to throw the ball beyond 20 yards.

yea we will get a comp pick when this turd walks in Free Agency

so

At least this ****ing QB didn't cost us a 2nd round pick. heh.

Maybe we could trade him to Chicago for a 5th or something at the end of the year. lol

On the surface, you're 100% correct.

But a team that signs Kyle Orton in Week 10 of a season where they're probably going to finish below .500 doesn't draft 1st round QBs.

This move doesn't prevent anything but it's a clear indication of how this FO thinks. We're not drafting a QB.

I'm so sorry.

I knew some people once that got a dog from the pound - the dog turned out to be a biter.

They knew that the dog would get put down if they told the pound that he bit people, so they just told them that they couldn't keep him because of allergies.

A few weeks later, the pound calls them and asks if they had any problems with biting. It turns out that the new owners got him home, and he bit a guest in their home. They were threatening a lawsuit.

I bet those people felt like I do right now.