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Pasta Little Brioni 12-07-2011 08:11 AM

"Touchdown celebration" penalty costs Mass. team state title
 
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/b...hschool-wp9491

Tue Dec 06 10:01am EST

Touchdown celebration penalty costs Mass. team a state title
By Cameron Smith

When he raised his fist on his way to the end zone, Boston (Mass.) Cathedral High quarterback Matt Owens thought he was celebrating the score that would hand his school a surprising Super Bowl title. Instead, he was doing the one thing that could keep them from it: Earning a penalty on a play where there was nothing but green turf between himself and the end zone.



As reported by the Boston Globe and Boston Herald among other sources, Owens was handed an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for raising his fist during his run to the end zone in the fourth quarter, a call which negated the touchdown and moved the ball back to the spot of the foul at the Blue Hills (Mass.) High 24-yard line.

You can see Owens' exact celebratory action in the photo from the Herald above.

The called back touchdown cost Cathedral the lead -- had Owens reached the end zone without incident, Cathedral would have gained an 18-16 lead with roughly six minutes remaining in the game. A play later, the quarterback essentially cost his team the game, throwing an interception to Blue Hills cornerback Keith Gomes that paved the way for Blue Hills to run out the rest of the clock and seal a 16-12 victory.

"In the game being played, we won the game. Give Blue Hills a lot of credit. They are a great football team, but we deserve better. The game got taken away from us," Cathedral coach Duane Sigsbury told the Globe. "If you're going to take a game away from a kid being excited because he just made the play of his life, shame on you."

The Globe pointed out that by definition, the Massachusetts official who threw the flag appeared to make the right call. The state uses NCAA rules and regulations for its football competitions, and The College Football Officiating guidelines state the following in regards to unsportsmanlike conduct on a play that results in a touchdown:

If the ball is alive when the player makes a taunting gesture, then the penalty is enforced at the spot of the foul - and the key outcome: no touchdown.

Still, there were reportedly a number of reasons for the teen's jubilant reaction. In addition to the fact that he was yards away from what would have been a potential state title-earning score, the teen's father told the Boston Herald that Saturday was his 18th birthday, and that his son was thanking the Lord for helping him break through for such a key play.

"He raised his hand because he knew was going to the pinnacle," Kenneth Owens told the Herald on Monday. "There was nothing dishonorable about the play. There was no doubt it was a touchdown. He gets 20 yards in -- and he's not thinking about the rule -- and he just raised his hand.

"He handed the ball to the referee. He didn't spike it. He goes to a Catholic school where they are taught that their God is in the sky. So I know when he raised his hand, he was thanking his Lord for what happened to him today. Football is a team sport. There's lot of kids that are hurting today."

Still, the official's interpretation of that rule was further supported by Joe Cacciatore, the assigner for officials in the Catholic Conference and Greater Boston League, who spoke to the Herald about the incident.


"It's tough, but the official absolutely made the right call according to the letter of the law," Cacciatore told the Herald. "It says it right there in the rules that any attempt to draw attention to yourself, whether it is pointing the finger, raising a fist or anything like that, is a penalty. We've been instructed to call it when it happens, it's zero tolerance now."


The controversial penalty all but ended a complete emotional roller coaster of a week for the Cathedral football program, which advanced to the Division 4A Super Bowl on the back of a near-miraculous touchdown return on the final play of a playoff game just days earlier.

As for Blue Hills, the school's coach made it clear that he agreed with the call, and that the controversial decision took nothing away from the first Super Bowl victory in school history.

"We try and play by the rules, and the rule is no celebrating," Blue Hills football coach Ed Catabia told the Globe. "It was unfortunate [for Cathedral], but it was a great call, the right call."

The Blue Hills player who clinched the victory for the small school was equally unsympathetic about Owens' penalty when asked about it by NECN.

"We all played fair, we all listened to rules at the beginning of the game. We all know what to do and he was out of line. And that's the fact and that's the ruling," Gomes said.



Wow....just wow

kcpasco 12-07-2011 08:18 AM

You can't show emotion. You might hurt the other teams feelings.

Bwana 12-07-2011 08:18 AM

And I thought some of the NFL rules were lame, damn.

rockymtnchief 12-07-2011 08:19 AM

Quote:

If the ball is alive when the player makes a taunting gesture, then the penalty is enforced at the spot of the foul - and the key outcome: no touchdown.
I wouldn't consider his fist in the air as "taunting". Pointing a finger at a player as you ran in, maybe. Dumb call, imo.

DaKCMan AP 12-07-2011 08:20 AM

Yet another example why I could never be a coach. I would go crazy, probably run on the field and attack the official.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-07-2011 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 8177349)
I wouldn't consider his fist in the air as "taunting". Pointing a finger at a player as you ran in, maybe. Dumb call, imo.

I agree, but...

It says it right there in the rules that any attempt to draw attention to yourself, whether it is pointing the finger, raising a fist or anything like that, is a penalty. We've been instructed to call it when it happens, it's zero tolerance now."

Still, whoever made the rule should be served an antifreeze/AIDS laced cocktail.

ReynardMuldrake 12-07-2011 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8177336)
"He raised his hand because he knew was going to the pinnacle," Kenneth Owens told the Herald on Monday. "There was nothing dishonorable about the play. There was no doubt it was a touchdown. He gets 20 yards in -- and he's not thinking about the rule -- and he just raised his hand.

"He handed the ball to the referee. He didn't spike it. He goes to a Catholic school where they are taught that their God is in the sky. So I know when he raised his hand, he was thanking his Lord for what happened to him today. Football is a team sport. There's lot of kids that are hurting today."

Clearly, god wanted him to lose the game. Wonder what he did to piss him off so much.

BigRichard 12-07-2011 08:22 AM

F that ref

Pasta Little Brioni 12-07-2011 08:24 AM

Even if he would have "primetimed" down the sideline...who ****ing cares, let the kids have fun out there.

Amnorix 12-07-2011 08:33 AM

Stupid. Sports talk radio here was ga ga over the idiocy of it, and rightly so.

BigChiefFan 12-07-2011 09:21 AM

Do they want people to enjoy the sport or not? This has gotten out of hand.

whoman69 12-07-2011 10:05 AM

Ridonculous

whoman69 12-07-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8177357)
Even if he would have "primetimed" down the sideline...who ****ing cares, let the kids have fun out there.

I wouldn't go that far, that would be taunting, but yes, let them have fun.

Deberg_1990 12-07-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8177352)
Still, whoever made the rule should be served an antifreeze/AIDS laced cocktail.

Well, there has to be rules....you have to draw the line somewhere. The problem is the rule as written doesnt seem like it makes a distinction between taunting and joyous celebrating. Or the officials should be given the freedom to make the judgement call on site between the two.

Skyy God 12-07-2011 11:11 AM

At worst the penalty should be 15 yards on the ensuing kickoff.

I hate to break out the back in my day line, but efforts to protect the feelings of today's "precious little snowflakes" have gone way overboard.

Micjones 12-07-2011 11:25 AM

A two-point lead with 6 minutes to play?
Even if the TD stands...they HADN'T won the game.

Dragonocho 12-07-2011 11:45 AM

Dumb call. He wasn't taunting.

FAX 12-07-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonocho (Post 8177821)
Dumb call. He wasn't taunting.

The guy had fisted the Blue Hills quarterback's sister the night before, dude.

It was taunting.

FAX

Mr. Kotter 12-07-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8177777)
A two-point lead with 6 minutes to play?
Even if the TD stands...they HADN'T won the game.

This.

Demonpenz 12-07-2011 12:11 PM

That punter one earlier in the year for LSU was aweful though. I still people POSE after sacking someone.

Bambi 12-07-2011 12:14 PM

Who the **** cares? There was 6 minutes left in the game.

Learn the rules and stop complaining.

jesus

Pasta Little Brioni 12-07-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8177900)
Who the **** cares? There was 6 minutes left in the game.

Learn the rules and stop complaining.

jesus

Yet, another thread where your dumbassery knows no bounds.

No, the game wasn't over, but the play in question helped change the outcome of the game. The kid was excited he scored a TD and raised his fist. It's not like he fake mooned or some shit to get Joe Buck and apparently yourself butthurt.

Hydrae 12-07-2011 03:03 PM

It seems like the article contradicts itself. Is it that you cannot taunt (he did not) or that he cannot be calling attention to himself (he did)?

Either way, it is bs and the kids should be allowed to play. Respect the other team while knocking the crap out of them.

007 12-07-2011 05:11 PM

You have got to be kidding me. It's not like he spiked the ball or turned around to run backwards. A fist in the air is a penalty. Wow. Just friggin wow.

stonedstooge 12-07-2011 05:15 PM

You open up that Pandora's box of letting certain gestures be tolerated and others not? Easiest just to have the rule black and white

Bambi 12-07-2011 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8178260)
Yet, another thread where your dumbassery knows no bounds.

No, the game wasn't over, but the play in question helped change the outcome of the game. The kid was excited he scored a TD and raised his fist. It's not like he fake mooned or some shit to get Joe Buck and apparently yourself butthurt.

Don't break the rules dumbass.

I don't see how hard it is.

And yea, putting the fist up in the air is kinda a dick move.

rtmike 12-07-2011 05:36 PM

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Lonewolf Ed 12-07-2011 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8177352)
I agree, but...

It says it right there in the rules that any attempt to draw attention to yourself, whether it is pointing the finger, raising a fist or anything like that, is a penalty. We've been instructed to call it when it happens, it's zero tolerance now."

Still, whoever made the rule should be served an antifreeze/AIDS laced cocktail.

I wonder if breaking through the line and outrunning the secondary to the endzone can be considered "attempting to draw attention to oneself?"

Hammock Parties 12-07-2011 05:42 PM

God was punishing him for premarital sex. He'll only be stronger because of this test.

Hammock Parties 12-07-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

He goes to a Catholic school where they are taught that their God is in the sky. So I know when he raised his hand, he was thanking his Lord for what happened to him today.
THERE YOU GO, KIDS.

GOD HATES TOUCHDOWNS.

Backwards Masking 12-07-2011 06:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8177446)
Do they want people to enjoy the sport or not? This has gotten out of hand.

"depends - if it's not contributing to the bottom line, than no"

Backwards Masking 12-07-2011 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8178964)
And yea, putting the fist up in the air is kinda a dick move.

To oversensitive Pussies on cocktails of antidepepressants and living off taxpayer dollars because their "disease" prevents them from working, maybe.

Bambi 12-07-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 8178998)
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_i...matt_owens.jpg




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Why the hell did he raise his first?

What a dumbass

Hammock Parties 12-07-2011 09:59 PM

Emotion of the moment. His fist was in the air for barely a second.

Bambi 12-07-2011 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8179573)
Emotion of the moment. His fist was in the air for barely a second.

just sayin, it's not like he was "that clear" of the defenders.

Run the ball and score.

Bump 12-07-2011 10:23 PM

why even play the game if the players aren't allowed to care?

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-07-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8179639)
why even play the game if the players aren't allowed to care?

We must neuter all sports of emotion. There's no place for celebration or joy in the sports world. Life is generic and emotionless so sports must be too lest someone get offended.

/sarcasm

Goldmember 12-07-2011 11:16 PM

He goes to a Catholic school where they are taught that their God is in the sky.

God didn't like getting fisted so he condemned him


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