How much would you give for Barkley or Griffin?
 

I know there has been a lot of talk about those two Qb prospects but I thought it might be a good idea to make a poll to know just how much Chiefs fans really want to draft a top QB prospect in 2012.

I am one of those who believe this team is more or less an above-average QB away from being possibly a contender every year.

Let's say the Chiefs have around the 10th pick in the upcoming draft and need to trade up 5 spots to pick before both the Redskins and the Dolphins who will likely draft the best QB available at their spot.

How much would you be willing to offer to make sure you have the chance to draft either Griffin III or Barkley?

BTW, I am not talking about Luck here because I personnally don't think there is any chance the Colts will trade the pick.

Bowe + a mid round pick.

i dont understand all the jizz about griffin

I don't understand all the jizz about Barkley. (let's see whose post gets more people...)

makes a little more sense i guess

Cause he's good. Learn how to evaluate QB play.

In response to the op, you do what you have to in order to draft your franchise QB. You could trade five all-pros and still be better off with an elite QB. JMO

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sure but i wouldnt draft him in the first round. maybe the 3rd or 4th. we should get somebody to PROTECT the qb first before we get the qb dont ya think?

where we pick in the first will be perfect for a franchise RT

rg3 is the truth and will be a very good nfl qb...if u dont agree with that u havent watched any of baylors games

I'd rather take a Fullback than a RT. It's working for the Broncos.

i watched baylors game. i watched that fool get knocked the **** out cold on the field by a pussy college safety. how do you think thats gonna play against an NFL LB?

thats not bad either but a rt has a little more value in that spot probably

C'mon man, you're already winning without egging them on.

Dude. No. Keep Bowe. You get a new QB and want to get rid of his weapons. Do you not remember how long it took us to get ONE GODDAMNED MOTHER****ING RECIEVER that is not a worthless ****ing pile of shit?

Yawn. We've got more than "ONE GODDAMNED MOTHER****ING RECEIVER."

Franchise QB > top 10 WR.

****in fan base thinks you can trade trash for treasure.

You know why we took so long to get a good receiver? Because good receivers have good qbs. Generally speaking. If we had a great QB, we would have lots of good receivers. It doesn't matter who Peyton or Brady or Rodgers or Brees are throwing to.

swing and a miss

first of all i dont see why we should give up anything at all when we already have at least 2 capable qbs right here

There is no way I can compete with this level of troll. I resign. You win the contest.

I don't want Barkley. **** USC QBs, IMO.

I wouldn't give up as much for Barkley as for Griffin. Yeah, I can see RG3 is better now.

No to barkley. I'd give up this years and next years 1st for RGIII

You aren't "giving up" this years first...

You are trading a first for a first and just adding next years.

hes a smart dude he will learn and change his game to only throwing and running when absolutely needed. And arent u referring to the play where he slid and the player hit him anyway? hes a proven winner and gonna continue to get better everyday. thats the type of qb i want.

Did I say trade John McGraw for RGIII?

Sure. It's going to take some doing to move up, but if you're going with a n00b QB you keep Bowe 11 times out of 10.

Any three players on our team. Take your pick.

semantics. You know what I meant.

Berry, Hali, and Johnson.

Back to 2003, mother****ers.

That would be cool to have the best athlete on the field be the QB

I really really wish I could understand why Chiefs fans are so reluctant to trade one of their most valuable pieces that has the least amount of impact on a game.

Bowe is 13th in rec, 14th in yards, and 37th in TD's...

Would you take Welker over Bowe? **** no.

But Welker is 1st in rec, 1st in yards, T-5th in TD's... Why? Because he has a NFL QB throwing to him.

You think Bowe has the least amount of impact on the game? Particularly if he has a good QB throwing at him?

Jesus dude. I'm not saying you don't get a QB. I am 100% in favor of getting a good QB. I'm so sick of Cassel, but you have to give your new man something to throw to. I'm so ****ing sick of running douchebags in here like Bobby ****ing Wade and Lance Long in here and actually making them part of the gameplan.

Get a new guy, give him the best chance to succeed. That involves keeping Bowe.

1st, 3rd and 4th. Doesn't make sense to trade your draft away and not surround that QB with as much talent as you can. This team still needs RT, NT and depth on defense. We should probably go to the FA market for the RT and look to get the depth an NT in the draft.

Easy Sparky

You just said it right there...

Bowe needs a QB.

How much impact did Bowe have in the playoffs against the Ravens? 0 catches.

Sorry, the Chiefs will be drafting a very high quality RT in the first

Pretty simplistic. Welker is a talent who has flourished with Brady. But they also have a lot of weapons to open the field for him. Brady was good earlier in his career with few weapons. He's elite with weapons. Larry Fitzgerald doesn't have an elite QB throwing to him nor does Brandon Marshall. How do you think Cam Newton would be doing if Carolina had traded Steve Smith?

It is simple. QB > WR. Doesn't get much simpler than that.

How do you think Steve Smith would be doing if Carolina didn't draft Cam Newton? He was considered washed up.

With the first round selection in the 2012 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select T.Y. Hilton Florida International.

Quarterbacks still have to have targets. Steve Smith was washed up because Jimmy Clausen couldn't throw to him. Bet Bradford wishes he had some targets to throw to.

So you mean a WR cant do shit without a QB? Interesting.

In case you are too blind to see the point... Good QB's elevate WR's. Good WR's don't elevate bad QB's. The QB is still bad and the team still loses.

Bowe is the best trade chip we have at the least impactful position.

Not sold on Barkley at all.... sorry guys....

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Good QBs elevate good WRs. Teams with good QBs still look for weapons. The Patriots added Gronkowski last year to help out Welker. Falcons add Julio Jones when they had Gonzales and White. The Colts added Anthony Gonzales to a defending champion team that had Harrison, Wayne and Clark when they had a horrid defense.

You know whats consistent with all those teams? They already had a ****ing QB.

Well Barkley is retired, I really like Griffins post up game and I think he is going to develop into quite the perimeter player later in his career, still on the Clippers, though. I'm not sure if Charles would come back into sports let alone the NFL, what could he play? Griffin would be a great Tight end but I'm not sure what you mean. Why would we have to give draft picks for these players?

Your argument is full of fail. Wes Welker is a fukn midget. NE throws the ball 40-50 times a game. Chiefs run the bull up Wiegmans ass 20-30 times a game. Impact WR's don't grow on trees. I would trade JC in a heartbeat before D-Bowe. RB's are a dime a dozen. Top ten wr's aren't.

JC just tore his ACL. Good luck getting much value for him right now.

Chiefs run the ball because their passing attack sucks complete ass.

Well I'd trade Bowe if I had too but would prefer not too. At this point whatever it takes to get your qb should be done probably.

NOT a God damn thing...

You haven't had to deal with the douchewater WRs we've had to. And this guy wants to trade the one we've got.

DUDE. It's not one or the other. If you go throw a rook out there with scrubs he will FAIL.

Ya... Breaston, Baldwin, and Moeaki are scrubs. :rolleyes:

Say Stafford went down and the Lions were wanting to trade up and get Luck. Would you trade Megatron to get him?

Probably not, but they can drop the ball with the best of them...

Why would Detroit want to trade up for a QB when they have Stafford?

While I tend to agree with jd on this, I'd like to ask what elite qb in the league right now is throwing to "scrubs"?

I said say Stafford went down. Say a neck injury or something he likely couldn't come back from.

Did any of them trade a star WR to get that QB?

Baldwin has done nothing to show that he is a number one. Breaston is a slot guy.

These guys aren't bad but it's absurd to trade away the best target your new QB has to throw to.

God your arguments are terrible.

Were any of them in a position to need to trade to get a QB?

Indy? Nope. They had the #1 pick.

NE? Nope. They had Bledsoe.

GB? Nope. They had Favre.

NO? Nope. They signed Brees through FA.

EDIT: Had to look back at the teams you were talking about just to make sure...

ATL? Nope. They had the #3 pick.

What's Welker?

Fuqtard. Impact Wr's are harder to find than impact Rb's. This point has been discussed for years. What part of idiot don't you understand. I suppose you want to go back to the days of suck.

I think you'll probably see the Pats go after a top wideout this offseason. I think they've figured out you can't do it anymore with just scrub guys. I'd say Vincent Jackson will probably be a Pat next year.

Not on the Cheifs. Who gives two ****s?

The bottom line remains that your dumbass wants to trade our best WR for a chance at a QB.

You'd have to see what position they would be in and what QB's you were talking about. Megatron would fetch more than Bowe.

I love Bowe, I have seen absolutely nothing but draft bust after draft bust at the WR position on this team for my entire life. I want him to retire a Chief, but if that was the asking price, I'd do it.

Our defense is really starting to click and I want to keep as much of that in tact as possible, so if they wanted Bowe, I'd take my chances with Baldwin developing into a true #1.

We need RGIII soooo bad (homo as all get out).

LMAO "Whoops"

He's a funk midget with the best QB in the league throwing him the rock. What's your point. The Chiefs have better wrs than NE. That is not even debatable. Too bad we are stuck with shit at QB. Here's a thought, next time have a point, it makes your story so much enjoyable.

We have "better wrs than NE" yet none can even come close to Welkers production. Good thing we have better receivers. We wouldn't be winning all these SB's without them.

I really don't get all the Bowe talk. You can trade up using draft picks, it's not like we have to trade someone currently on the roster.

If it comes down to Bowe wants out or there is no other way to trade up besides adding Bowe, then you do it if it's for a franchise QB.

Out of the two QB's mentioned, I'm partial to RG3 not as NFL ready but a much higher ceiling.

If you're convinced that one of those QB's can win multiple Super Bowls there really isn't too high an asking price. I'd rather not give up players, unless you can throw in some scrub ass bitch like Vrabel and have the other guy think they're getting something.

Throw a few picks at the team, heck, throw a bunch at them, then put everything you have into developing that QB into a champion.

That.

Dorsey, Bowe and a first should get it done for either guy.

Add next years first if there is a chance at going all the way up to #1 for Luck.

Git r dun

Dorsey, Bowe and a first should get it done for either guy.

Add next years first if there is a chance at going all the way up to #1 for Luck.

Git r dun

I don't think you can win in the NFL anymore the way the Pats did with Brady throwing to "scrubs".

May not need a superstar but if you have/could get one it would be worth it. Again, the Pats likely will target a star wideout this offseason. Hell they have draft picks. They outta trade up and pick Blackmon.

There is not one person in this thread that is saying we don't need a QB. I think everyone knows (and most have known for a long time) that QB is the #1 position of need on this team. You don't have to get rid of Bowe to move up in the draft though.

NE's problem has never been their offense. It's been their shit ass defense.

I skimmed the thread and noticed a lot of bickering about him so I threw in my opinion on packaging him with some picks. If it came down to just picks I'd Ditka our draft for RGIII. If we had to throw in a key player or 2, I would rather deal Bowe than say Hali, Berry, Flowers, or Charles.

Unless you want to go full Ditka it's going to take players.

THe more I read and hear about he Indy situation I don't think Luck goes there. I don't think he would wanna go there actually. He could pull an Eli and just say no, don't wanna go ther.e