Dan Pompei: Haley to be fired, replaced by Josh McDaniels?
 

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...litz-2021.html

*If, as expected, Todd Haley does not survive in Kansas City, Josh McDaniels could end up with the Chiefs three years after many thought he would land there. Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli could hire his old buddy from their New England days to be his head coach—if he could sell McDaniels to Clark Hunt. Or, Pioli could hire a defensive minded head coach and make McDaniels the coordinator, assuming McDaniels is fired in St. Louis. Aside from the Pioli connection, another reason McDaniels makes sense on the other end of Missouri is he has a strong relationship with Matt Cassel. In fact, the quarterback and his former offensive coordinator still talk frequently.

Shoot me in the ****ing face.

at what point can a fanbase file rape charges against a franchise?

Shoot me first.

It's a process.

Pioli must have OCD.

Not this shit again :facepalm:

Well on the upside if this happens the Chiefs fans will end the streak of saying.. Next yr...

The most depressing part is that it sure seems Pioli wants to double down on Cassel.

This might be good. Cassel really hasn't got a fair shake yet.

Oh ****.


Bring him in. Maybe what this franchise needs is a bullet to the head to put it out of our ****ing misery.

Dude I might be done with them next year if this guy Is brought in and we are once again try to sell us on cassel.

Good grief

Indeed. The arrogant POS just can't seem to admit he made a mistake with him.

How would that go?

"Clark most of the fans hate Cassel but I want to hire a guy that just loves him."

Hold on, I am almost done here at the foodstamp office.

Why do people here blame Pioli for Dan Pompei making stuff up?

And Arrowhead will hear, "echo...echo...echo...echo" to an even large degree... LOL, I think Hunt is just this stupid too!!

It is entirely possible that this happens.


Sad, really.

100% speculation.

Why do some people here continue to defend Pioli when it's became apparent he can't go outside of the tree?

Stop looking into the mirror.

Haley to be indicted in two weeks.

**** YOU, PIOLI.

I don't care if McDaniels is the next Head coach. I don't care if Matt Cassel is the QB. I do want Haley fired.

I know his supporters want to point to injuries and the fact that this team has won 5 games.

I point to getting blown out four times and getting one TD in the entire month of November.

I point to the rumors of him struggling to get along with several people. I understand they are rumors. But, when there are so many with so many different people... yeah, I start to believe them.

Jesus, no kidding! I guess if this happens, you can't say Pioli is worried about putting butts in the seats like Carl was. Thing is, if he does this, I'm not real sure what Pioli is trying to do, 'cause not only is he not trying to put butts in the seats, he would be selling to the fan base that we are not trying to win a Super Bowl either. Bad combination!

But Pioli isn't the problem. LMAO


This is all speculation but if it were to happen holy shit this place will be fiun.

McDaniels will be better if given less control over personnel.

It would be very interesting from a sociological perspective to see how the Chiefs fanbase would react to such a hire. Hiring McDaniels sounds like the worst business decision that Pioli and Clark could ever make. I'm not even sure Pawnmower would support it.

Why were the drumbeats to fire Haley going this week?

I think you need to remove sensible from your name and and moronic! :clap:

OMG! First the chefs give 64 MILLION to Matt Ca$$el....


Now this! LLLLOOOOLLL

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Seahawks to trade for Matt Leinart?

It's assumed by everyone that Tarvaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst aren't getting it done for Pete Carroll in Seattle. Since Houston has put faith into Leinart's ability, it is very possible that Carroll will trade for Leinart to become the starter, renewing the collaboration and success the two had at USC. With Leinart's season-ending injury, Seattle will be likely be able to get him for a cheaper price.

What rumors have you heard recently or are you just going by last years rumors still?

As awful as this would be, is this anything more than blind speculation?

Pioli needs to do what Constanza did on Seinfeld.

Do the opposite.

Scott Pioli = King Carl 2.0



LMAO

Yes, it's probably speculation. But would anyone here really be surprised if it happened this way?

Maybe Haley told Pioli to take his Patriots Way and shove it up his ass

Stick to Tebow, you guys will be great.

Why are people so worked up over an opinion piece?

If this were true, I'd be pleased to change my vote in the fire Haley thread.

Well, the rumor about him not getting along with Pioli has been pretty constant this year.

More than the rumors about the situations, it is the fact that Muir is our OC. If Haley isn't a micromanager that is hard to work with.... I just don't think Muir is the headcoach.

JMO.

No....but this the way this is raising blood pressure, it's cool that we won't all have to run around the block getting our blood pumping in anticipation of another Chiefs game!

Whos Dan Pompei?
Not any speculation that hasn't already occurred. FAT CHANCE. Haley is coming back. Next.

Surely they are talking about trading for him in the offseason.

More on these stories later:

Kurt Warner to coach Rams?

Colts to fire Caldwell, re-hire Tony Dungy?

Dolphins to hire Brian Griese as QB coach?

If he does this, no fugging way Pioli is King Carl. Carl was worried about turning a profit for Hunt by selling out the stadium. He was pretty good at that too for the most part. Pioli does this, and I am afraid blackouts would be a common thing for home games.

What I want to know is, at what point in our history did journalism move from "finding and reporting the facts" to "wildly speculating with no actual basis."

Yes. I would. As frustrating as this franchise has been, this would easily be the stupidest, most infuriating move I've seen them make.

**** that. Pioli needs to GTFO. I would rather promote Haley to GM. Cut Cassel for sure...Just **** that.

I did some further digging on this story, and I found out that when this happens, Haley will be hired to coach the receivers in Dallas with his friend Jason Garrett.

No shit. Blame the internet, I guess. 24 hour news cycle, too.

Being a reporter is fun!

I might have to park my fandom by the side of the road if this shit goes down.

If he does this, the bright side is it hastens Pioli's departure from KC. If he brings in McDaniels as HC or sticks with Cassel as QB into a new coaching regime, I'm done with him.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...in-kansas-city

Todd Haley, Scott Pioli and Matt Cassel Must Remain in Kansas City




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This is the third season that Scott Pioli has been the general manager of the Chiefs. That goes true for Todd Haley and Matt Cassel as well.
Most fans, it seems, want one, two or all three gone by next year. If you take a moment to look at it logically, that is counter-productive and will set the team back, not forward.
That is slightly over two-and-a-half years. That would be the same period of time Herm Edwards was here—three years.
Herm Edwards compiled a record of 15-33. Over his last two years, the Chiefs had a record of 6-26, the worst in franchise history.
The previous general manager, Carl Peterson, gave the Chiefs a parting gift by trading Jared Allen. At the same time, Tony Gonzalez became so disenchanted he demanded a trade. Larry Johnson was getting arrested at about the same rate he was gaining yards per carry.
Since Todd Haley took over, the Chiefs' record is 18-25. Granted, that's nothing to spit wooden nickles about. Keep in mind, however, his first year was Herm Edwards' team. His second season the Chiefs won their first division title since 2003.
By this regime's second season, the roster had dramatically changed—for the better.
The team has added legitimate playmaking stars. They include Eric Berry, Tony Moeaki, Dexter McCluster, Javier Arenas, Ryan Succop and, I believe, Jonathan Baldwin. Some are better than others, but they are all starters and can contribute.

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Additionally, previously under-performing or under-utilized players have dramatically changed. Derrick Johnson has turned into a Pro Bowl linebacker. Everyone criticized Haley for his treatment of Johnson in the beginning, but it must have worked.
They got rid of Larry Johnson and replaced him with Jamaal Charles. That seems to be working out for the better. Tamba Hali is becoming one of the better pass-rushers in the league, and Dwayne Bowe is one of the better receivers in the league.
I am by no means suggesting this is a perfect team or that there have not been mistakes.
Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson have under-performed. I hear constant criticism for selecting them, especially Jackson. At the time, they were considered two of the best picks in the draft. The NFL draft is not a perfect science.
The main point of my argument, however, is consistency. It is also my main criticism of Todd Haley.
At the very beginning of the 2009 season, Haley fired Chan Gailey. He took over most of the play-calling duties. He also made a lot of mistakes that year. He was also a rookie, which people seem to forget applies to coaches as it does to players.
During that offseason, they did two of the best things they've ever done: They hired Charlie Weiss and Romeo Crennel.

Who Should Stay for Next Year

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Weiss left after one season, and there is a good chance it had a lot to do with Haley and his involvement in the offense.
This year, Bill Muir became the offensive coordinator and they hired Jim Zorn as the quarterback coach.
Nobody seems to know who's calling plays, who's running the offense and they can't even get plays out to the field. This must change.
This is where one of my defenses of Matt Cassel comes in. Just look at the offensive changes he, and the rest of the offense, has gone through since he's been here. There has not been one year of consistency from the offensive coordinator, quarterback coach or whoever is calling the plays.
Todd Haley has to fix this.
In my opinion, the two biggest problems for the Chiefs are the offensive and defensive lines.
During this offseason, through the draft and free agency, the Chiefs must make a serious change to both sides of the line.
Finally, no coach should be fired after the injuries the Chiefs suffered this year. There is not a team in the NFL that would have survived losing the caliber of players the Chiefs have. Kansas City currently has seven player on the injured reserve list, many of them irreplaceable.

Assuming all the injured players return healthy next year, this regime deserves one full year of support from the ownership and fans.
If they draft the right players, and are more active in free agency and do not dramatically improve, I will call for the serious changes that you all seem to want now.
One year.

Let me see if I've got this right...

Pioli would hire him if he gets fired as the OC from the Rams?

Good luck trying to sell that one to the KFC brass.

How much of a failure can this guy be to be even considered for ANY position in the NFL?

I think he needs to go back to Ohio and be a HS QB coach and try the pros in 10 years from now...



LMAO

Well yeah, bleacherreport.com is full of morons.

*Weis. Charlie Weis.

Haven't we banned you 2-3 times?

No worse than the moron speculating in the OP.

wut

McFistPump is my bro.

No, because the 3rd time is the charm. Pull the trigger.

The front office must be using Dan Pompei too. /Danny J. Fox

He isn't getting fired by the Rams, dipshit.

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June 1, 1980.... Google "CNN history"...

The truth will get that done here.


just sayin


o:-)

Because of the outstanding job he is doing with your offense?

Cassel hadhis best year with mcdaniels, this could be very tempting

4's a charm...

Wow. That Bleacherreport article is just horrible. "The biggest problems are the offensive and defensive lines." Wow. I will never read another article from that POS site just because of this article.

I honestly would be surprised if even the Chiefs FO can't see that Cassel need never put on a R&G uni again.

Herm Edwards coaching in KC was blind speculation months before it went down.

Matt Cassel coming to KC was blind speculation for weeks before it happened.

This is just the stupid kind of blind speculation that this team falls into time after time.

You are going to be shocked.

Pioli still endorses Cassel. And, Cassel is actually making the trip this week.

He will be back. I don't think Haley will.

I wouldn't be shocked if McDaniels is somehow invloved with the Chiefs.

Well, there have been many speculations and rumors that haven't been true.... the biggest, of course, is that Shanahan will be coaching the Chiefs.

This