Head coach possibilities that nobody's talking about
 

Why do we need another head coach thread? Because **** you, that's why.

There are some dark horse candidate names that seemingly NO ONE is talking about. Yeah, these guys are all have their issues with short or incomplete resumes, but they should at least get some consideration. They can't be any worse than Josh McDaniels, right?

Bruce Arians- Offensive coordinator for the Steelers. Rock solid resume. "Lunch pail" coach. With the proper QB, would probably have us competing for the playoffs in under a season. Vastly overlooked guy when it comes to that team-- he's actually pretty important and critical to that team's success. Just unknown if he would flame out like Ken Whisenhunt.

Chuck Pagano- Defensive coordinator for the Ravens. Inexperienced as a coordinator, but has been successful at nearly every coaching job he's ever had in the league

Perry Fewell- Defensive coordinator for the Giants. Would be kind of a "wtf" hire, but I can see him getting some looks from teams as more of them start firing their coaches

Vic Fangio- Current defensive coordinator for the 49ers. Was defensive coordinator for a bunch of mediocre teams in the 90s, was a part of some impressive Ravens teams as linebackers coach, though

Tom Clements- QB coach for the Packers. Coached QB for the Chiefs in 2000 and got a Pro Bowl season out of Elvis ****ing Grbac

Winston Moss- Assistant coach/linebackers for the Packers. Guy is full of ****ing fire. Players like Hali, Houston, Berry... holy shit would they love playing for this guy. Definitely has the brawn, don't know if he has the brains, though.

Mike Zimmer- Defensive coordinator for the Bengals. I know next to nothing about this guy, but I know a lot of planeteers like Pestilence who have him on their personal short lists.

No one is talking about them because they're not from the tree.

I've mentioned Clements before, and I'd be ok with Zimmer.

zimmer or Pagano for HC and Clements for OC...

Maurice Carthon -knows his shitter

Tim Krumrie -slap the shit out of Cassel's pants

Got a couple of Steeler buddies who know their shit... they hate Arians. If Steeler fans don't like him as OC, I dun want him at HC.

Steeler fans who know their shit.

You hear about something new every day I guess

Fewell gets a lot of noise here in the tri-state area about being a HC really soon. Not saying he is a KC guy, but not crazy for him to get looks soon. Rob Ryan will probably be talked about soon for teams, well maybe not so much if they keep having games like last night.

Yes, Chiefs fans are the only intelligent ones. CP is proof.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

I'm just saying, I've never met a Steeler fan and then said, "Oh hey, that guy's really sharp. Knows a lot about football and is really successful. Cool person. Not a douchebag, either."

I just don't think it's gonna be a coordinator. They just had that fail. I'm thinking it's got to be someone with head coaching experience.

**** me.

BRING BACK MARTY!!!

Mike Martz.

Funny.

When we were on the HC hunt in 2009, two of the guys I had on my very short list were Tom Clements and Kirk Ferentz.

Here we go again.

Vic Fangio certainly deserves a look.

Being as I give the possibility of Romeo Crennel returning as the DC about 99%...we should forget about guys like the other Ryan brother.

Zimmer isn't bad. He's a bit old but that's fine.

Another 4 3 guru would be Gregg Williams.
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Tuna. He'll bring in Haley to coach WR's...

I said this in another thread...no way for Arians...he worked for Carl in KC no way Pioli goes for that.

I think the idea that you shouldn't get a coordinator because Haley didn't work out is reactionary thinking.

Kind of like Todd Blackledge didn't work out, so we won't draft a round 1 QB for 28 years.

Each individual is different, and the situation is different. This coaching job is totally different than the one Haley walked into in 2008.

I really, REALLY hope that Pioli is smart enough to find a good fit and not just a retread. I also hope that he will not force Cassel on anyone.

I am less than sure of either.

Who you guys want for strength and conditioning?

I'm a fan of Clements and Zimmer. That's about it on that list though.

You know why you pass on Arians?

Big Ben does stuff no OC can draw up.

yup.

I'm a fan of this kind of thinking... because it's actually thinking rather than jerking knees. I scoff at people who scream "don't draft another lineman from LSU".

Scott Chocran, duh.

Greg Williams

Al Saunders

I saw Perry Fewell at the Tampa airport the week before the lockout ended. That's all I got.

Billick with an interesting take on the current state of job openings.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...k-taking-calls

People think Pioli has a big ego. Billick would make Pioli look humble.

Meh.

Greg Williams wants absolutely no part of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Al Saunders might be one of the most overrated ex-Chiefs ever.

I think Gaz is worth a look

Mecca.

:hmmm: Nah, first thing he'd do is cut Tamba Hali

Mecca wants to be GM, not coach. I have previously stated that once I'm a billionaire and purchase the Chiefs I will not hire Mecca as GM.

Did you watch Fewell's defense get shredded apart by Dallas on Sunday night?

How about Green Bay ripping through them the week before?

The Giants D, despite being loaded with talent is worse than the Chiefs defense.

Yet you think Fewell is a legit head coaching candidate?

Good grief LMAO

Hindsight is 50/50, 20/20 that you are a dumbass.

What about my mom?

Interesting note. Mike Zimmer's son is already a coach on the team.

Mike Zimmer would probably mean the end of Crennel.

Ryan Braun

Soren Petro is a BIG Jeff Fisher fan.

So if there wasn't enough reason to not want him before, there is now.

I'm ok with that.

I would be too, but I doubt Pioli intentionally hires a guy who's going to fire Pioli's DC.

Pittsburgh fans hate Bruce Arians. Trust me I hear about it every damn day. His play calls are whacked out some... you know he probably does fit here.

We wouldn't have to worry about Cassel much longer, once he goes on the DL permanently.

I hear the same exact thing from Steelers fans all the time.

Bruce Arians is the bane of that team. I want him nowhere near my Chiefs

bring in the Iowa coach .. then we can start Stanzi ....

One in the hand is worth two in the snatch.

Soren Petro just said that the NFL should be CONCERNED that they've made the game TOO focused on the QB.

He IS Carl Peterson. We can't make the playoffs in the current format so change the format. We're too scared to draft a QB so CHANGE THE ****ING RULES OF THE GAME.

I'd welcome Arians.

Why?

Can we scrape up $109 to find out who Athan wants
then go 180 degrees the other way

Mike McCarthy?

He's a coordinator who is willing to take chances and will put the game in the hands of his QB.

Assuming Cassel's back - and all indications are that he will be - do you really want a HC that puts the game in his hands?

Agreed

yea and that only works when you have a top 5 QB that has already won two super bowls

I think the media and whoever else has the assumption that Pioli is going to bring in one of his own people have it wrong. This search is Clark Hunt's search.

I like the idea of bringing Marty back (his UFL team, Virginia Destroyers, won the league's championship for what that is worth, I have no clue).

Also, Al Saunders is still out there in Oakland as OC and he has strong connections to the Hunt family as well.

:spock:

Completely agree.

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**** and no. No old retreads. They were run out of KC for a reason.

Al Saunders wasn't run out. He was given close to two million to run the Redskins offense and Vermeil was retiring. That's why Saunders left.

I don't want a retread either, but I was just trying to open some eyes to the fact that the Hunts are running this search and Pioli is just trying to persuade them to hire one of his guys, which Haley was a Pioli guy...or at least worked with him and obviously that didn't work out so well.

Coordinaters and college coaches are crap shoots. I'm not against them, just saying even what looks like a great choice might be a dud.

So, lets limit our options to coaches that are going to be fired this year.

I'd be ecstatic to have Saunders.

My first choice would be "The Jaw."

Fact is the Pats are just a cheap copy of the Steelers anyway.

You push Cowher and Pioli together it's just enough ego-mashing to find a solid balance and perhaps find something special...

I think we should go get Mike McCarthy to groom out new qb.

No way, no retreads either, remember?!

Lets go full reerun and hire 10 head coaches. It will be revolutionary!Q*U!@!!!!!!!!!!

Herm Edwards & John Gruden to scout players for draft day and gush all over them.
Charlie Weis & Brian Billick to game plan and give us a decided schematic advantage.
Josh McDaniels to cheat and give Weis & Billick an advantage in devising their decided schematic advantage.
Dick Vermeil to give players hugs.
Jack Del Rio to punch players in the face.
Bill Cowher to stand on the sidelines and scowl during games.
Rob Ryan to stand on the sidelines during games looking homeless.
Denny Green for post-loss press conferences.

I don't want a retread and I prefer someone young(er).

But if we go the retread & old(er) route what about giving old man Dom Capers a chance with a team that's not an out-of-the-box expansion club? Every where he's been since his last HC job the defense is nails. Plus he runs the 3-4. Just keep him away from the offense.

Year Team NFL Rank Pts Against NFL Rank Yds Against
2006 Miami 5 4
2007 Miami 30 23 (full reerun 1-15 season)
2008 Patriots 8 10
2009 Green Bay 7 2
2010 Green Bay 2 5

I may be wrong, but I thought Saunders left because he was told he would be the next HC after Vermiel left and was lied to.

I still can't believe he traded for Herm...that's like if Pioli were to TRADE for McDaniels.

Is it possible that they fired Haley before the end of the season because they already knew who they wanted to go after and wanted to get a jump on the other teams? That would point to a coach currently out of work or a college coach (or someone already on staff though they wouldn't have needed to rush for that).

You haven't looked at the list of recent Super Bowl winning coaches very closely, have you?

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Jack Del Rio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mike Nolan could be an intriguiging option. :shrug:

I'm not convinced he'll be back, but if he is...I'd prefer they let him throw the ball. Nothing can be gained from handicapping the guy. Either trust him to throw the ball or find someone else you do trust.

Pete Carmichael, Jr. anybody (Saints OC)?

Joe Philbin (Packers OC)?

Mike Tice

With last offseason having such a lack of turnover with coaches due to no offseason and teams being weary of change in that situation, general perception would dictate that this offseason will have a much higher amount of turnover for head coaches.

It's absolutely possible that Pioli thought there was a legit chance at losing Romeo after the year if he didn't be proactive about it.

Tough to say, either way until we see how things shake out.