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Tribal Warfare 12-13-2011 02:44 PM

Looney: Crennel wants to be Chiefs next head coach
 
Crennel wants to be Chiefs next head coach
By Josh Looney

Romeo Crennel expressed his desire to coach the Kansas City Chiefs in 2012 and beyond


Romeo Crennel is officially the first public candidate to be the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

General Manager Scott Pioli stated yesterday that Crennel will receive consideration to continue as Chiefs head coach following the final three games of the 2011 season and Crennel officially threw his name into the mix Tuesday morning.

In a conference call with the Kansas City media, Crennel shared his desire to be the Chiefs next head football coach.

“I’d like to be a head coach again and show that I can get it done,” Crennel said.

Crennel previously served as head coach in Cleveland from 2005-08 and compiled a 24-40 overall record. In 2007 he led the Browns to a 10-6 record, which was Cleveland’s best season since finishing 11-5 in 1994.

“We won 10 games in Cleveland one year and had a chance to make the playoffs, but ultimately didn’t make it,” Crennel said. “The following year things kind of fell apart and they made a change, so I would like to be a head coach again to show that I can do it.

“I don’t think I would have taken this job to finish out the season as head coach if I didn’t want to be a head coach again.”

Crennel’s leadership will be on display for at least the next three weeks. He shed some light on how he plans to approach things going forward…

Crennel’s Contract: If Crennel isn’t hired as Kansas City’s next head coach, he still has one year left on his contract as defensive coordinator.

Crennel didn’t rule out a returning as defensive coordinator in 2012, but made it clear that the next head coach should have the power to choose his own assistants.

“If I’m not the head coach, what I’d have to do is sit down and talk with the guy who is the head coach and decide if he wants me,” Crennel said. “I think that’s what the organization has to do. If they bring in someone else, they have to let that individual hire his own coaches to give him the best chance to be successful.”

Starting Quarterback: We have our first mystery of the Crennel era.

Crennel says he’s yet to decide on a starting quarterback for Sunday’s game against Green Bay, leaving the door open for rookie Ricky Stanzi to make his first-career start. If healthy, Kyle Orton will also be under consideration and Tyler Palko will get a chance throughout practice as well.

“I’m going to look at everything that’s available and every option that I have, and then I’m going to make a decision about who it’s going to be,” Crennel said. “Green Bay doesn’t know much about me or what my choice might be offensively, so I’m not going to give them an advantage right now at the moment.

“I’ll take the next couple of days and then make a decision on whom that guys is going to be. Then we’ll go forward with that guy.”

Green Bay has already seen both Palko and Orton this season.

Orton completed 22-of-32 passes for 273 yards with three TDs and three INTs in Denver’s 49-23 loss to the Packers at Lambeau Field on October 2nd.

Palko completed 18-of-29 passes for 163 yards with a TD and two INTs against Green Bay’s reserves in the Chiefs preseason finale. Stanzi did not play in that game.

Offensive/Defensive Schemes:
Crennel will continue to call the defensive plays while Bill Muir and Jim Zorn will work together on developing an offensive game plan.

“I think the best way for us to have a chance to be the most successful at this moment is to not create too many distractions,” Crennel said. “Me being named the head coach is a distraction. So, I don’t want to have a distraction on offense, a distraction on defense and a distraction on the whole team.”

Crennel went on to say that he’d take a different approach going forward if permanently named the head coach, but wanted to keep as much consistency as he could over the final three games of the season.”

Dayze 12-13-2011 02:46 PM

yeah, don't want to give away our offensive secret...otherwise we might not have much of a chance.

Fritz88 12-13-2011 02:46 PM

Of course he does.

OnTheWarpath15 12-13-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

“If I’m not the head coach, what I’d have to do is sit down and talk with the guy who is the head coach and decide if he wants me,” Crennel said. “I think that’s what the organization has to do. If they bring in someone else, they have to let that individual hire his own coaches to give him the best chance to be successful.”
Apparently RAC forgot who he works for.

O.city 12-13-2011 02:47 PM

The best thing about Crennel coming in would be that we could have an OC come in and have control of the offense. Outside of that..........meh

suds79 12-13-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8200301)
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“I’m going to look at everything that’s available and every option that I have, and then I’m going to make a decision about who it’s going to be,” Crennel said. “Green Bay doesn’t know much about me or what my choice might be offensively, so I’m not going to give them an advantage right now at the moment.

“I’ll take the next couple of days and then make a decision on whom that guys is going to be. Then we’ll go forward with that guy.”

Woah, waoh, woah. Romeo what are you doing? You can't talk strategy to the press. What are you doing?

Sincerely, Scott Pioli

Reerun_KC 12-13-2011 02:49 PM

God, oh hell ****ing NO!!!!

This guy was and is a disaster as a HC in the NFL...

I still wont forgive him and his zero TE coverage Defense...

he can choke at a chinese buffet...

OnTheWarpath15 12-13-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8200324)
Woah, waoh, woah. Romeo what are you doing? You can't talk strategy to the press. What are you doing?

Sincerely, Scott Pioli

LMAO

I'll give RAC credit - he said more in one press conference than Haley and Pioli have in nearly three years.

BigMeatballDave 12-13-2011 02:49 PM

I don't want him as Hc but I could change my mind if he chooses to move away from Cassel and Draft a Qb

The Iron Chief 12-13-2011 02:50 PM

So we dont want any distractions.. and we dont want anything from keeping our inconsistent team from being consistently inconsistent? :)

MMXcalibur 12-13-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8200328)
God, oh hell ****ing NO!!!!

This guy was and is a disaster as a HC in the NFL...

I still wont forgive him and his zero TE coverage Defense...

he can choke at a chinese buffet...

Pretty sure no matter who the hire is, ChiefsPlanet will inevitably be pissed off.

OnTheWarpath15 12-13-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8200328)
God, oh hell ****ing NO!!!!

This guy was and is a disaster as a HC in the NFL...

I still wont forgive him and his zero TE coverage Defense...

he can choke at a chinese buffet...

Just get yourself prepared, man.

If not RAC, it's going to be someone else from the tree.

3-4 more years, waiting for Hunt to finally boot Pioli, Cassel and their croneys out the door.

DaWolf 12-13-2011 02:51 PM

I'm torn here. I like RAC and would be cool with him as HC as long as he hired someone like Norv Turner to run the O.

That said, I'm not sure how good of a talent evaluator RAC is, and I have a feeling the only way we'd really be successful with Pioli is if we had a head coach who could also evaluate personnel and who could also get along with Pioli. RAC's personnel acumen has to be questioned after the whole Cleveland debacle, even though a lot of that falls on Phil Savage...

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-13-2011 02:52 PM

The defense hasn’t exactly been “consistent;” Sunday was just the latest awful performance. What makes Crennel such an attractive candidate?

If you fire haley cause the O not consistent then i guess we can forget about crennel

the Talking Can 12-13-2011 02:53 PM

it will crennel, mangini, or mcdumb****

OnTheWarpath15 12-13-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8200352)
it will crennel, mangini, or mcdumb****

A caller to 610 said something about Mangini ripping Pioli today on the Scott Van Pelt show. Haven't had a chance to confirm.

the Talking Can 12-13-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8200356)
A caller to 610 said something about Mangini ripping Pioli today on the Scott Van Pelt show. Haven't had a chance to confirm.

i know there is bad blood because of mangini ratting out belicheck's cheating...but still think the 'tree' matters more

Fritz88 12-13-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8200318)
Apparently RAC forgot who he works for.

Way to piss Pioli off, Romeo.

I will give him credit for having some ballz.

Reerun_KC 12-13-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8200342)
Just get yourself prepared, man.

If not RAC, it's going to be someone else from the tree.

3-4 more years, waiting for Hunt to finally boot Pioli, Cassel and their croneys out the door.

Dammit! Just holy ****ing dammit!!!!

Rasputin 12-13-2011 02:56 PM

If Crennel starts Stanzi then I am sold on him as head coach for next year. If not then next. Crennel can add some stability transition & buy us time for a more thorough thought out and calculating prossess in search of a coach that this year doesn't provide just off of whem.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-13-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8200356)
A caller to 610 said something about Mangini ripping Pioli today on the Scott Van Pelt show. Haven't had a chance to confirm.

Scott and Eric where like chiefs won the west last year ,Lost 4 key players and half way though 2011 in first place.Then scott van pelt went on to say what did you want you had a guy name palko starting.

kcpasco 12-13-2011 02:57 PM

Well if you don't give him the job now, he will feel disrespected and not want to be here

Reerun_KC 12-13-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 8200374)
Well if you don't give him the jibe now, he will feel disrespected and not want to be here

GOOD!

IF he can fit through the door he can leave...

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-13-2011 03:01 PM

Is Scott Pioli a human being or a batch file?

suds79 12-13-2011 03:02 PM

Romeo is the far less evil of all the Pioli cronies. We know that's going to happen. Pioli is going to hire a guy he knows. We know it.

So the choice is simple IMO.

Despite what you think of Romeo, this team will sink or swim with their QB as all NFL teams do. Doesn't matter who the coach is. If we have Matt Cassel? We could have Bill Cowher in his prime. We'll fail.

If we have a good QB? (hopefully in draft) then we'll see if he's any good.

Not crazy about the situation. But that's how I see it.

FringeNC 12-13-2011 03:04 PM

If we hired McD in any capacity, Cassel stays. Otherwise, I am not convinced. Ticket sales matter, and will Pioli really double down on Cassel if his babysitter isn't around? If (When) Cassel shits the bed next year, Pioli may be gone himself.

Tribal Warfare 12-13-2011 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8200399)
If we hired McD in any capacity, Cassel stays. Otherwise, I am not convinced. Ticket sales matter, and will Pioli really double down on Cassel if his babysitter isn't around? If (When) Cassel shits the bed next year, Pioli will be gone himself.

FYP

FAX 12-13-2011 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8200348)
The defense hasn’t exactly been “consistent;” Sunday was just the latest awful performance. What makes Crennel such an attractive candidate?

If you fire haley cause the O not consistent then i guess we can forget about crennel

Clark never actually used the term, "consistently good".

FAX

DaWolf 12-13-2011 03:07 PM

Of course if we finish the season 0-3 or 1-2, I don't think RAC has any shot at getting the full time gig, unless we're uber competitive in every game...

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-13-2011 03:07 PM

LMAO
Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8200405)
Clark never actually used the term, "consistently good".

FAX


'Hamas' Jenkins 12-13-2011 03:12 PM

Not even three full years in, and people are couching their analysis of the "Executive of the Decade"'s coaching picks with the lesser of evils comparison.

HemiEd 12-13-2011 03:13 PM

I am a Romeo Crennel fan, and am looking forward to what he does the last three games.

After suffering through complete incompetence at the DC position since Cowher left, he was a welcome addition.

HC? I hope he learned something from his first time around, because his record was very similar to Haley's here. If he lets an OC do his job without micro managing him, we will have some progress.

They could all learn something from DV when it comes to letting your coaches do their jobs.

Bob Dole 12-13-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8200386)
Is Scott Pioli a human being or a batch file?

IF EXIST C:\personality.log (echo human) ELSE (echo batch)

HemiEd 12-13-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8200433)
Not even three full years in, and people are couching their analysis of the "Executive of the Decade"'s coaching picks with the lesser of evils comparison.

Well he has clearly demonstrated that he sticks to the tree, with players and coaches. That trait has already rubbed me raw.

rocknrolla 12-13-2011 03:15 PM

I'm not sold on RAC as a HC. But I'm not holding his shitty job against him in Cleavland aginst him. When has a coach ever succeeded there? Including Bilichick. I really don't care, as long as we draft a QB in the 1st.

Chiefnj2 12-13-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8200436)
I am a Romeo Crennel fan, and am looking forward to what he does the last three games.

After suffering through complete incompetence at the DC position since Cowher left, he was a welcome addition.

HC? I hope he learned something from his first time around, because his record was very similar to Haley's here. If he lets an OC do his job without micro managing him, we will have some progress.

They could all learn something from DV when it comes to letting your coaches do their jobs.

His last season in Cleveland was a mess, in large part, because of QB injuries and GM issues. He must feel deja vu.

FAX 12-13-2011 03:15 PM

Do you think Cowher could co-exist with Pioli? Gruden? Hell, even Fisher bonked heads big time with Floyd Reese over Vince Young to the point it eventually got Reese canned.

Remember the whole "Carl's foot-shuffling porter" deal? That's likely what we're going to have and Crennel fits the bill in many ways. So does McDaniels, it appears.

The more I think about this situation, the less enthusiasm I can muster. Cassel? Tyson Jackson? Weis? Palko? Orton? McGraw? Pissmybelly? Becht? Richardson? I mean, the list goes on and on.

The best thing we had going for us was Crennel's defense and we just weakened that department. It's like moving your best salesman over to complaints and returns.

Hope seems like a distant dream.

FAX

suds79 12-13-2011 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8200433)
Not even three full years in, and people are couching their analysis of the "Executive of the Decade"'s coaching picks with the lesser of evils comparison.

Sad isn't it?

BoneKrusher 12-13-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8200436)
I am a Romeo Crennel fan, and am looking forward to what he does the last three games.

After suffering through complete incompetence at the DC position since Cowher left, he was a welcome addition.

HC? I hope he learned something from his first time around, because his record was very similar to Haley's here. If he lets an OC do his job without micro managing him, we will have some progress.

They could all learn something from DV when it comes to letting your coaches do their jobs.

Bill Bellichick wasnt very good his first try with Cleveland, so maybe there's hope for Romeo.

FAX 12-13-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8200436)
I am a Romeo Crennel fan, and am looking forward to what he does the last three games.

After suffering through complete incompetence at the DC position since Cowher left, he was a welcome addition.

HC? I hope he learned something from his first time around, because his record was very similar to Haley's here. If he lets an OC do his job without micro managing him, we will have some progress.

They could all learn something from DV when it comes to letting your coaches do their jobs.

It's strangely amusing to listen to his press conference. Crennel's "reasons" for our problems are familiar ... injuries to our best players. But, he did say we won the West last year, so there's reason to be encouraged.

One man's excuse is another man's pink slip, I suppose.

I can't wait to see our brand new, shiny Crennel Offensive Juggernaut take the field, though.

FAX

Chiefnj2 12-13-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8200448)
Do you think Cowher could co-exist with Pioli? Gruden? Hell, even Fisher bonked heads big time with Floyd Reese over Vince Young to the point it eventually got Reese canned.

Remember the whole "Carl's foot-shuffling porter" deal? That's likely what we're going to have and Crennel fits the bill in many ways. So does McDaniels, it appears.

The more I think about this situation, the less enthusiasm I can muster. Cassel? Tyson Jackson? Weis? Palko? Orton? McGraw? Pissmybelly? Becht? Richardson? I mean, the list goes on and on.

The best thing we had going for us was Crennel's defense and we just weakened that department. It's like moving your best salesman over to complaints and returns.

Hope seems like a distant dream.

FAX

I still don't get the whole Pioli is an egomaniac thing. It might be 100% true, but the guy is never in the limelight. He doesn't seek out the media or camera. He acts very anti-egomaniac.

Mr. Flopnuts 12-13-2011 03:18 PM

Honestly, I'd take RAC over anyone else from the tree right now. It was Cleveland, of course he shit his pants there. Bellicheck did too.

jd1020 12-13-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8200457)
I can't wait to see our brand new, shiny Crennel Offensive Juggernaut take the field, though.

FAX

They are probably good for at least 5 yards by half time.

Reerun_KC 12-13-2011 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8200436)
I am a Romeo Crennel fan, and am looking forward to what he does the last three games.

After suffering through complete incompetence at the DC position since Cowher left, he was a welcome addition.

HC? I hope he learned something from his first time around, because his record was very similar to Haley's here. If he lets an OC do his job without micro managing him, we will have some progress.

They could all learn something from DV when it comes to letting your coaches do their jobs.

Crennel lost me as a fan in the playoff game, Listening to Falco and Heap openly laugh and mock his defense after the game ended the Crennel hype for me...

Quicker he is gone the better in my book.

FAX 12-13-2011 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8200458)
I still don't get the whole Pioli is an egomaniac thing. It might be 100% true, but the guy is never in the limelight. He doesn't seek out the media or camera. He acts very anti-egomaniac.

Those closet ego dudes are the scariest kinds.

FAX

Beef Supreme 12-13-2011 03:20 PM

I'd rather have Romeo as Head Coach than most of the other names I have seen being batted around as legitimate possibilities.

FAX 12-13-2011 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 8200471)
I'd rather have Romeo as Head Coach than most of the other names I have seen being batted around as legitimate possibilities.

Crennel is a very likeable guy.

FAX

KCUnited 12-13-2011 03:21 PM

If Romeo is hired as HC, look for Pioli to bring in all the broke dick veterans he can for locker room leadership to supplement Romeo's passive style.

Reerun_KC 12-13-2011 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8200465)
Those closet ego dudes are the scariest kinds.

FAX

There is nothing special about Coward... Why in gods name would anyone want him in KC..

they starving for more mediocrity and shitty QB play?

Other than looking at his ****ed up face, I cant think of one thing he brings to KC...

jd1020 12-13-2011 03:23 PM

I can't imagine Clark letting anyone on the current coaching staff become HC next year.

The Franchise 12-13-2011 03:23 PM

I don't know how much of it was Crennel....but he did draft Brady Quinn.

ShortRoundChief 12-13-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8200464)
Crennel lost me as a fan in the playoff game, Listening to Falco and Heap openly laugh and mock his defense after the game ended the Crennel hype for me...

Quicker he is gone the better in my book.


Yeah he's done a horrible job. :rolleyes:

Offense has to help the defense and vice versa. The offense has put them into some horrible positions.

Chiefnj2 12-13-2011 03:26 PM

I think Crennel's tenure in Cleveland ended with a 6 game losing streak where they didn't score more than 1 TD a game. So eerily similar.

Predarat 12-13-2011 03:26 PM

And I want to be a ****ing millionaire.

whoman69 12-13-2011 03:28 PM

Give him Dick Nolan as a DC and a good OC. His age and weight have to go against him. He's 64 years old and doesn't have near the energy that Vermeil had. I don't think he really had anything to work with in Cleveland and still took them to their winningest season since they re-created the franchise. We could do worse, but I don't expect it. Interim coaches rarely keep the job.

Dexter Manley 12-13-2011 03:30 PM

If we do hire Romeo, can I still make fat jokes here??

FAX 12-13-2011 03:31 PM

Crennel is a DC with a specialty in the 3/4, bend don't break defense.

The Peter Principle should apply in his case. Problem is, I'm running out of potential candidate of guys who can work with Pioli and bring something to the table.

FAX

BossChief 12-13-2011 03:32 PM

1) it almost like Romeo stepped up a little for Haley with his comments about the head coach being able to pick his assistants...maybe even sent a message that he would like the job if Pioli lets him pick his own coaches.

2) I LOVE the idea of having Romeo and another guy as the hc/dc and them bringing in Crater-Face as the OC. That would have a shot at being a good pairing IMO.

Do that and draft a QB in the first round and Pioli will be a golden god in KC

Chiefless 12-13-2011 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8200301)

Starting Quarterback: We have our first mystery of the Crennel era.

Crennel says he’s yet to decide on a starting quarterback for Sunday’s game against Green Bay, leaving the door open for rookie Ricky Stanzi to make his first-career start. If healthy, Kyle Orton will also be under consideration and Tyler Palko will get a chance throughout practice as well.

“I’m going to look at everything that’s available and every option that I have, and then I’m going to make a decision about who it’s going to be,” Crennel said. “Green Bay doesn’t know much about me or what my choice might be offensively, so I’m not going to give them an advantage right now at the moment.

“I’ll take the next couple of days and then make a decision on whom that guys is going to be. Then we’ll go forward with that guy.”

Translation: "Scott Pioli hasn't told me who to start yet."

RealSNR 12-13-2011 03:33 PM

Let's put it this way...

If Ricky Stanzi = Tom Brady

And if Pioli stops interfering with the coach's decisions

And if Denver, San Diego, and Oakland go back to being as shitty as Seattle, St. Louis, and Arizona

And if Crennel hires some offensive coaches that aren't Bill Muir, Maurice Carthon, or from the ****ing New England tree

And if it's a full moon

Then I think Crennel can be a good coach for us

durtyrute 12-13-2011 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 8200459)
Honestly, I'd take RAC over anyone else from the tree right now. It was Cleveland, of course he shit his pants there. Bellicheck did too.

That

jd1020 12-13-2011 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200522)
1) it almost like Romeo stepped up a little for Haley with his comments about the head coach being able to pick his assistants...maybe even sent a message that he would like the job if they let him pick his own coaches.

Stop reading too much into shit.

BossChief 12-13-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8200433)
Not even three full years in, and people are couching their analysis of the "Executive of the Decade"'s coaching picks with the lesser of evils comparison.

It's too bad Pioli fell in love with Cassel and doesn't want to have to have "the talk" with him.

I think he has done a fairly good job the last two years and that Cassel makes it look like he hasn't.
Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8200531)
Stop reading too much into shit.

I'm not.

He clearly said the coach should be able to pick his assistants.

Haley wasn't afforded that luxury.

Not much happens as coincidence in big business.

jd1020 12-13-2011 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200557)
I'm not.

He clearly said the coach should be able to pick his assistants.

Haley wasn't afforded that luxury.

Not much happens as coincidence in big business.

Did Haley deserve the right?

Gailey... Fired. Chiefs sucked with Haley calling the shots.

Pioli brings in Weis. The Chiefs are competent enough to watch on Sunday without laughing hysterically to bury the pain.

Weis leaves. Haley promotes a zombie. Hysterical laughter ensues.

Haley was simply a mistake.

Dayze 12-13-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 8200336)
Pretty sure no matter who the hire is, ChiefsPlanet will inevitably be pissed off.

that's not true. I'd be happy if we had Bellichek as our HC.
:D

Chiefnj2 12-13-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200557)

Haley wasn't afforded that luxury.

Not much happens as coincidence in big business.

Haley chose Clancy, himself and Muir. He had enough rope to hang himself.

BossChief 12-13-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8200570)
Did Haley deserve the right?

Gailey... Fired. Chiefs sucked with Haley calling the shots.

Pioli brings in Weis. The Chiefs are competent enough to watch on Sunday without laughing hysterically to bury the pain.

Weis leaves. Haley promotes a zombie. Hysterical laughter ensues.

Haley was simply a mistake.

Head coaches almost always get to hire their own coordinators.

Haley was never given that right and the ones Pioli brought in weren't able to work with the head coach.

You are saying that because of that, it's Haleys fault?

ROFL

I have little doubt that if Haley was able to bring in his own staff, we would have a crop of younger coaches right now that would all be on the same page.

If you can't see that Pioli caused that cluster**** (that Romeo obviously can) I don't know what to tell you.

BossChief 12-13-2011 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8200599)
Haley chose Clancy, himself and Muir. He had enough rope to hang himself.

That is not entirely accurate.

Did Haley bring Clancy in?

Yes

Was Clancy brought in as a DC?

No

When he was signed, Haley clearly said he was not hired in that capacity and that "they" were still looking for a dc. "They" were in constant contact with Romeo at the time.

Haley didn't hire a single coordinator and was handcuffed to Cassel before he ever took the job.

jd1020 12-13-2011 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200617)
Head coaches almost always get to hire their own coordinators.

Haley was never given that right and the ones Pioli brought in weren't able to work with the head coach.

You are saying that because of that, it's Haleys fault?

ROFL

I have little doubt that if Haley was able to bring in his own staff, we would have a crop of younger coaches right now that would all be on the same page.

If you can't see that Pioli caused that cluster**** (that Romeo obviously can) I don't know what to tell you.

Haley's staff looks like this...

Todd Haley.

And that staff was 19-26.

Titty Meat 12-13-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200557)
It's too bad Pioli fell in love with Cassel and doesn't want to have to have "the talk" with him.

I think he has done a fairly good job the last two years and that Cassel makes it look like he hasn't.


I'm not.

He clearly said the coach should be able to pick his assistants.

Haley wasn't afforded that luxury.

Not much happens as coincidence in big business.

If he hasn't replace Cassel the last 2 years he's failed. You simply can't have it both ways.

htismaqe 12-13-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8200599)
Haley chose Clancy, himself and Muir. He had enough rope to hang himself.

Absolutely.

But it's still patently unfair to accuse him of "running off" Gailey when it was CLARK HUNT who asked Haley to keep him in the first place.

Like Milkman said, if you are Haley, what are you going to tell your new boss' boss? No?

Titty Meat 12-13-2011 04:07 PM

Haley lost 5 games this year alone by 4 touchdowns and got called for a penalty. You never see coaches get called for a penalty. I'm sure that was Pioli's fault too.

KCrockaholic 12-13-2011 04:29 PM

Like others have said, if we do keep Romeo as HC at least we would be forced to bring in a real offensive coordinator, and also it helps the chances that Cassel would be gone. He's not my favorite name for HC, but I do like him, and I sure as hell don't want to see him leave the defense.

HemiEd 12-13-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8200446)
His last season in Cleveland was a mess, in large part, because of QB injuries and GM issues. He must feel deja vu.

Seems like success or failure at the QB position can reek a lot of havoc.
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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8200454)
Bill Bellichick wasnt very good his first try with Cleveland, so maybe there's hope for Romeo.

Hopefully Romeo can find his Brady and become a genius like BB.


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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8200457)
It's strangely amusing to listen to his press conference. Crennel's "reasons" for our problems are familiar ... injuries to our best players. But, he did say we won the West last year, so there's reason to be encouraged.

One man's excuse is another man's pink slip, I suppose.

I can't wait to see our brand new, shiny Crennel Offensive Juggernaut take the field, though.

FAX

Well he is trying to win the job, so I doubt he says too much that will rile up Pioli.
Crennel just exudes wisdom and confidence to me. Part of that wisdom should be that he trusts offensive people to do their jobs.

Rooster 12-13-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8200330)
LMAO

I'll give RAC credit - he said more in one press conference than Haley and Pioli have in nearly three years.

LMAO That ain't no shit.

trndobrd 12-13-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200646)
That is not entirely accurate.

Did Haley bring Clancy in?

Yes

Was Clancy brought in as a DC?

No

When he was signed, Haley clearly said he was not hired in that capacity and that "they" were still looking for a dc. "They" were in constant contact with Romeo at the time.

Haley didn't hire a single coordinator and was handcuffed to Cassel before he ever took the job.

Do believe Bill Muir as OC was a Haley idea or something Pioli forced on him?

HemiEd 12-13-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200646)
That is not entirely accurate.

Did Haley bring Clancy in?

Yes

Was Clancy brought in as a DC?

No

When he was signed, Haley clearly said he was not hired in that capacity and that "they" were still looking for a dc. "They" were in constant contact with Romeo at the time.

Haley didn't hire a single coordinator and was handcuffed to Cassel before he ever took the job.

That is the sad part of this whole situation. Haley wanted the shot, so he took it under less than ideal circumstances, and couldn't overcome them no matter how hard he worked. He just wasn't that good.

Mr. Laz 12-13-2011 04:47 PM

It's nice that someone WANTS to be our head coach and it would provide some continuity on the defensive side of the ball.

I'm just afraid it would provide continuity on the offensive side of the ball too. :(

Mr. Laz 12-13-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 8200745)
Do believe Bill Muir as OC was a Haley idea or something Pioli forced on him?

Muir was with Haley in Tampa
Clancy was with Haley in Arizona
Palko was in Arizona trying out for Haley (then practice squad)

HemiEd 12-13-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8200747)
It's nice that someone WANTS to be our head coach and it would provide some continuity on the defensive side of the ball.

I'm just afraid it would provide continuity on the offensive side of the ball too. :(

This team hasn't really had an offense since Trent Green went down.


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