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Tribal Warfare 12-15-2011 12:11 AM

Teicher: Orton or Stanzi will start Sunday
 
Orton or Stanzi will start Sunday
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Romeo Crennel wasted little time making the Chiefs his team by benching quarterback Tyler Palko for Sunday’s game against Green Bay at Arrowhead Stadium.

Crennel said Wednesday that veteran Kyle Orton would start against the Packers if his injured finger is healed in time. If not, rookie Ricky Stanzi, a fifth-round selection out of Iowa who hasn’t yet played this season, would get the call.

“If Orton is able to go, then Orton is the quarterback,” Crennel said at his daily news conference. “We’ll have to see how his finger is and how he comes along and whether we can count on him with that finger.”

Without being asked, Crennel said the decision to bench Palko was his and not that of general manager Scott Pioli. He said he informed Palko on Wednesday morning he was no longer the starter, and then informed Pioli.

“I told Tyler it was my decision, and it was my decision,” Crennel said. “I made it.”

Orton, a former starter with the Bears and Broncos, joined the Chiefs last month after they lost Matt Cassel for the season. He has taken just one snap for the Chiefs, in their win over Chicago on Dec. 4.

Orton dislocated the index finger on his passing hand on the play. He wasn’t in uniform for last week’s loss to the Jets.

Orton was able to get plenty of zip on his passes on a windy day Wednesday during the small portion of practice reporters were allowed to watch.

A bigger issue for Orton is taking the snap from center. The Chiefs may have to operate exclusively from the shotgun formation on Sunday to accommodate Orton.

“He’s been throwing a little bit with the trainers,” Crennel said. “They said for short passes he’s been doing pretty good. Now we’ll have to see how he does for practice. We might have to protect him a little bit from taking the snap. We have a plan in place to do that so that we can still operate the offense without him having to take a snap.”

Orton said he is able to make the necessary throws.

“I won’t put myself out there unless I can,” Orton said. “Nothing in this league is perfect. Everybody’s got to play with injuries and I’m no different than anybody else.”

Stanzi indicated he took about 40 percent of the snaps with the starting offense in practice. Orton got the rest.

“I’ve been in this position before, being the backup,” said Stanzi, who has been the Chiefs’ No. 3 quarterback most of the season. “It’s not too different. The actual getting (snaps) with the first team is a little bit of a change.”

While signs pointed toward Orton being prepared to play against the Packers, Crennel wasn’t ready to commit to that.

“I told the offensive coaches to get both of them ready,” Crennel said. “It’s going to depend on what Kyle can and cannot do.”

Crennel said announcing the plan at quarterback this early in the week would eliminate a lot of distractions as the Chiefs prepare to play the NFL’s last remaining undefeated team. Eliminating that distraction against the 13-0 Packers, he said, was more important than trying to keep Green Bay guessing.

“I’ve been through a quarterback controversy in another job I had, and there’s innuendos and guessing and (players) are trying to figure things out,” Crennel said. “I just think it’s better for them to know there’s a different quarterback.

“Now they can focus on the game plan. They can focus on the plays. They can focus on what we need to do to try to beat Green Bay. They’re not focusing on what the coach is going to do, who the quarterback is going to be, is the offense going to be different for this guy or is the offense going to be different for that guy. The offense is going to be the offense and then we’re going to play football.

“I thought about Green Bay not knowing, but then I said, ‘Hey, they don’t care who our quarterback is.’ When they look at the quarterbacks on our roster, they don’t care who plays. They look at Tyler and what he’s done the past couple of weeks, and they look at Orton and know he’s got a finger (injury), and they look at a rookie. I don’t think that they’re shaking in their boots.”

Palko started the last four games under Todd Haley, who was fired as coach on Monday. The Chiefs went 1-3, scoring just 32 points and two touchdowns.

Palko was short with his answers in a brief interview Wednesday but said he didn’t feel he was being unfairly blamed for the team’s problems on offense.

“That’s coach Crennel’s decision,” Palko said. “Coach is going to make the decision he feels is best for the team.”

Crennel cited the Chiefs’ trouble scoring points as the reason for the change.

“The thing he hasn’t done is he hasn’t been able to put points on the board,” Crennel said. “One of these two guys, hopefully they’ll give us a chance to put more points on the board.”

He indicated Orton’s experience was the bigger reason he would be in front of the line instead of Stanzi. Orton has 66 career starts in seven seasons with the Bears and Broncos. He also started against the Packers early this season while playing for the Broncos, completing 22 of 32 passes for 273 yards with three touchdowns and three interceptions in Denver’s 49-23 loss.

Orton had one of the best games of his career last year against Crennel and the Chiefs. He was 22 of 34 for 296 yards and four touchdowns in Denver’s 49-29 win.

But Crennel said he would have no problem playing Stanzi, if it comes to that.

“It will be tough duty for him going against the Packers,” Crennel said. “He’s shown good improvement throughout the year. I get to see him every day on the show team. He operates the show team and works against our defense and he’s improved during the course of this year. If he’s the guy in there, he’ll do a representative job.”

Rasputin 12-15-2011 12:14 AM

Scoring points ppfftt that's for arena football talk.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-15-2011 12:15 AM

Welcome to 3 threads ago. Orton starts if he's healthy, Stanzi otherwise. We know.


:)


Just being a normal planet douche.

007 12-15-2011 12:16 AM

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“I thought about Green Bay not knowing, but then I said, ‘Hey, they don’t care who our quarterback is.’ When they look at the quarterbacks on our roster, they don’t care who plays. They look at Tyler and what he’s done the past couple of weeks, and they look at Orton and know he’s got a finger (injury), and they look at a rookie. I don’t think that they’re shaking in their boots.”
Love that comment. Nice to have a coach that will just tell it like it is.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2011 12:18 AM

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They look at Tyler and what he’s done the past couple of weeks
That's worse than Herm ever threw a player under the bus. LMAO

Tribal Warfare 12-15-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8205157)
Love that comment. Nice to have a coach that will just tell it like it is.

In all honesty, we've been talking about HC candidates but we might have the one already in place with Crennel for now and beyond this season.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-15-2011 12:19 AM

Crennel > Haley

already

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-15-2011 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8205157)
Love that comment. Nice to have a coach that will just tell it like it is.

That is cause crennel is pioli mouthpiece and haley refuse to be his Puppet.

007 12-15-2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8205192)
That is cause crennel is pioli mouthpiece and haley refuse to be his Puppet.

ummmm OK?

Tribal Warfare 12-15-2011 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8205192)
That is cause crennel is pioli mouthpiece and haley refuse to be his Puppet.

I think it's the other way around, because Haley at times was trying to do his best Belichick impression by being an unresponsive asshole during interviews.

Rasputin 12-15-2011 01:15 AM

I can handle Crennel as HC. Most important is getting a QBotf or just see what Stanzi can bring and still draft a first rounder. I think Crennel can buy us some time in search for his predisessor in that Romeo will probably retire in a few years. We don't have to rush in just finding a statis quo or get stuck with Piolis first thought of coach. I'm just about positive that Piolis first thought of coach aint going be a good one. (cough josh McDouche cough)

RustShack 12-15-2011 01:38 AM

I hope we have Crennel one way or the other next year, and I wouldn't be opposed to him being the HC. Bill failed his first attempt at being a HC with the Browns. I'm not looking, but I'd bet its a fair guess to say Crennel actually did better with the Browns his first go-round than Bill did.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2011 02:13 AM

It's clear who the alpha male is in this photo

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2...a7f5.St.81.jpg

Fairplay 12-15-2011 02:36 AM

My vote is for Stanzi. What have we got to lose?

NJChiefsFan 12-15-2011 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8205236)
It's clear who the alpha male is in this photo

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2...a7f5.St.81.jpg

Its like he can feel the power of CP building inside of him.

007 12-15-2011 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8205265)
Its like he can feel the power of CP building inside of him.

queue the Masters of the Universe opening.LMAO

rocknrolla 12-15-2011 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8205236)
It's clear who the alpha male is in this photo

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2...a7f5.St.81.jpg

Palko just looks pathetic in this photo.

kcxiv 12-15-2011 05:51 AM

Palko looks like someone ran his dog over. Like damn, i dont even wanna be here anymore.

Warrior5 12-15-2011 06:07 AM

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“I told Tyler it was my decision, and it was my decision,” Crennel said. “I made it.”
Crennel reposted himself at least once here...

Rausch 12-15-2011 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rocknrolla (Post 8205282)
Palko just looks pathetic in this photo.

"Which one of us is not like the other one..."

Rausch 12-15-2011 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8205236)
It's clear who the alpha male is in this photo

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2...a7f5.St.81.jpg

LMAO

kcxiv 12-15-2011 06:12 AM

I just hope the Kid gets a chance to start and see if he's got upside.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-15-2011 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8205192)
That is cause crennel is pioli mouthpiece and haley refuse to be his Puppet.

Wow. I just can't believe the ignorance dripping off of this comment and spilling over onto my desk and floor. I am going to have to go get my boots, because I am ankle deep in stupid now.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-15-2011 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rocknrolla (Post 8205282)
Palko just looks pathetic in everything he does.

FYP.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-15-2011 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 8205252)
My vote is for Stanzi. What have we got to lose?

The team.

As fans, I fully understand the desire to see Stanzi. Heck, I have those same feelings. But, Orton is the best chance for this team to win right now, if healthy.

The Chiefs will probably get blown out anyways. So you might as well get Orton the start to prove to the team you want to win, then get Stanzi some snaps later in the game.

bevischief 12-15-2011 07:05 AM

No shit.

Marcellus 12-15-2011 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 8205284)
Palko looks like someone ran his dog over. Like damn, i dont even wanna be here anymore.

I assume he realizes with Haley gone, his career in the NFL only has 3 more games of standing on the sidelines left in it.

BoneKrusher 12-15-2011 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8205313)
I assume he realizes with Haley gone, his career in the NFL only has 3 more games of standing on the sidelines left in it.

and he probably **** that up. ;)

Rasputin 12-15-2011 07:54 AM

Reporter ~ Who is going be your starting QB then with Palko going to the bench, Stanzi or Orton?

Crennel ~ Yes

Reerun_KC 12-15-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8205294)
Wow. I just can't believe the ignorance dripping off of this comment and spilling over onto my desk and floor. I am going to have to go get my boots, because I am ankle deep in stupid now.



You should go back and read some of your comments when Herm was rightfully fired... I never knew one could be that reeruned until then...

Reerun_KC 12-15-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8205297)
The team.

As fans, I fully understand the desire to see Stanzi. Heck, I have those same feelings. But, Orton is the best chance for this team to win right now, if healthy.

The Chiefs will probably get blown out anyways. So you might as well get Orton the start to prove to the team you want to win, then get Stanzi some snaps later in the game.

ROFL

You cant be serious with this ?

Fire Me Boy! 12-15-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8205236)
It's clear who the alpha male is in this photo

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2...a7f5.St.81.jpg

I am Ricky, quarterback of the Chiefs, defender of the secrets of Arrowhead. And this is Tyler, my fearless friend. Fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the day I held in my hands the magic football and said, "By the power of CP! I HAVE THE POWER!!!!"

Tyler became the mighty clipboard holder, and I became STAN-ZI. The most powerful QB in the NFL!

Only three others share this secret: Our friends Scott Pioli, Jim Zorn and Romeo Crennel. Together we defend Arrowhead from the evil forces of Haley.

STAN-ZI!






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This is here just for references. :)

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7yeA7a0uS3A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Reerun_KC 12-15-2011 08:31 AM

Okay that was just gay....

Pasta Little Brioni 12-15-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8205236)
It's clear who the alpha male is in this photo

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2...a7f5.St.81.jpg

Shop thier heads on the muscle men from that credit report commercial LMAO

darkchief 12-15-2011 10:15 AM

They need to play Stanzi for the rest of the season. To see what hes got. Orton wont be here next year so that's a waste.

chop 12-15-2011 10:24 AM

Has anyone heard how Stanzi has looked in practice now that he is getting some of the first string snaps?

Okie_Apparition 12-15-2011 11:38 AM

Stanzi looks like a long armed mother****er in that pic

htismaqe 12-15-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by chop (Post 8205607)
Has anyone heard how Stanzi has looked in practice now that he is getting some of the first string snaps?

Clinkscale didn't say last night. He was focused on Orton. He said the throws looked tight and zippy but that Orton was "self-hiking" rather than taking snaps.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-15-2011 02:05 PM

bobfescoeBob Fescoe

Romeo "orton will probably start" #chiefs

Setsuna 12-15-2011 02:09 PM

Trade him to Jacksonville, and you guys can have Gabbert.

Thig Lyfe 12-15-2011 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8205202)
I can handle Crennel as HC. Most important is getting a QBotf or just see what Stanzi can bring and still draft a first rounder. I think Crennel can buy us some time in search for his predisessor

lolwut

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-16-2011 12:56 PM

adamteicherAdam Teicher

Bill Muir will return to press box rather than stay on sidelines to call plays for #Chiefs on Sunday vs. GB




DannyParkinsDanny Parkins
Muir also says he'll be calling the plays and Jim Zorn will relay them into Orton on the field. #Chiefs


Guess crennel going with haley way to get the play to QB.

whoman69 12-16-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8208622)
adamteicherAdam Teicher

Bill Muir will return to press box rather than stay on sidelines to call plays for #Chiefs on Sunday vs. GB




DannyParkinsDanny Parkins
Muir also says he'll be calling the plays and Jim Zorn will relay them into Orton on the field. #Chiefs


Guess crennel going with haley way to get the play to QB.

I thought Haley already found that way was fugged up and stopped it. So now its such a good idea they have to bring it back?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-16-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8208643)
I thought Haley already found that way was fugged up and stopped it. So now its such a good idea they have to bring it back?

Yup it is sad. I guess he might need a nap during the game.

mlyonsd 12-16-2011 01:51 PM

JFC the local Fox station has been showing in their listings they were airing the GB/KC game. Today they switched it to NO/MIN.

The first time Cassel or Palko doesn't start all season and I'm going to have to listen to it on the radio.

htismaqe 12-16-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8206247)
bobfescoeBob Fescoe

Romeo "orton will probably start" #chiefs

Danny Clinkscale saying all signs point to Orton starting.

Bowser 12-16-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8208622)
adamteicherAdam Teicher

Bill Muir will return to press box rather than stay on sidelines to call plays for #Chiefs on Sunday vs. GB




DannyParkinsDanny Parkins
Muir also says he'll be calling the plays and Jim Zorn will relay them into Orton on the field. #Chiefs


Guess crennel going with haley way to get the play to QB.

:facepalm:

For God's sake, just let Orton call his own plays, and let's be done with this ring around the rosie horseshit when it comes to play calling.

Rasputin 12-16-2011 02:30 PM

Maybe Jim Zorn should just call the plays himself or just act like he couldn't understand Muir in the headsets.

NJChiefsFan 12-16-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8208891)
Maybe Jim Zorn should just call the plays himself or just act like he couldn't understand Muir in the headsets.

I really would be interested in hearing Zorn talk about his feeling on the QB situation honestly, cool-aid filter off.

Rasputin 12-16-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8208897)
I really would be interested in hearing Zorn talk about his feeling on the QB situation honestly, cool-aid filter off.

I'm interested in knowing why this franchise or organization from HC & Piolis havn't done any thing along the lines for preparing Stanzi to take over at some point as fulll time starter. Even if he is the long term goal, they should have made it a priority to get him reps from second string and so on. I think there has been major neglect from the standpoint of getting him up to par to be prepared to play. Palko was named second string from the start of preseason & Stanzi didn't even get to play in the last preseaon game. That has nothing to do with how good he is. It's neglect from coaching staff not getting him game ready. Haley did what ever it took to have Cassel ready for the opening game. Cassel looked like shit in preseason and he never had competition to upseat him for that.

I blame Haley for Palko & I blame Piolis for Cassel. They both ****ed the Kansas City Chiefs. Now we have to start off agian where Carl Peterson left us.

Kyle DeLexus 12-16-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8208643)
I thought Haley already found that way was fugged up and stopped it. So now its such a good idea they have to bring it back?

If I remember right that was going from Muir to Haley to Zorn to Cassel or something like that.

As long as Gramps remembers what Haley showed him on how to properly use a headset, I don't mind Muir to Zorn.

jd1020 12-16-2011 02:52 PM

Chiefs interim coach Romeo Crennel confirmed Friday that Kyle Orton (finger) made it through the practice week unscathed and is on track to start against the Packers in Week 15.
Crennel said definitively that Orton will make his first start as a Chief. Fifth-round rookie Ricky Stanzi is No. 2 on the depth chart and would enter if Orton suffered an in-game setback. Tyler Palko has been bumped all the way down to third string. Orton's installation and return to health bode well for Dwayne Bowe's chances of a big fantasy day against the Packers.

threebag 12-16-2011 03:19 PM

Teicher saving his job by getting off the Palko wagon too. What the **** were his other choices? Arenas or Urban :facepalm: JFC

O.city 12-16-2011 03:20 PM

Here you go Dwayne, you get to play with a qb who actually is a decent thrower of the deep ball for 3 games, then next year back to Sir Dink.


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