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DaKCMan AP 12-22-2011 09:31 AM

Matt Barkley To Announce 2012 NFL Draft Decision At 4 P.M. Press Conference
 
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USC’s Matt Barkley To Announce NFL Intentions Today
MATT BARKLEY, NCAA, USC | COMMENTS

USC quarterback Matt Barkley will announce his decision on whether or not he will return to school or enter the NFL Draft today at a press conference, ESPN’s Colin Cowherd said on his radio show this morning.

If the 21-year-old quarterback leaves school he is expected to be a top-10 pick in the draft, however some believe that if he were to stay in school for his senior season he would be a lock for the No. 1 overall pick next season.

This year Barkley led the USC Trojans to a 10-2 record, including a 7-2 mark in the Pac-12. As a result of NCAA sanctions, the Trojans were not eligible for postseason play, which means despite defeating UCLA 50-0 in their final game of the season, they were forced to watch as the Bruins represented the Pac-12 South in the conference title game.

This season Barkley threw for 3,528 yards and 39 touchdowns while only tossing seven interceptions.
http://tracking.si.com/2011/12/22/us...entions-today/

cabletech94 12-22-2011 09:37 AM

first in with, AWESOME?

Sofa King 12-22-2011 09:46 AM

Has he said anything about only wanting to be drafted by the Chiefs?

Chiefnj2 12-22-2011 09:49 AM

Do these guys really have to hold press conferences to make the announcement?

DaKCMan AP 12-22-2011 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8228011)
Do these guys really have to hold press conferences to make the announcement?

If the press doesn't attend then the press conferences would stop. :shrug:

Molitoth 12-22-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8228011)
Do these guys really have to hold press conferences to make the announcement?

I suppose Twitter just isn't enough "look-at-me" exposure.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-22-2011 10:46 AM

AdamSchefterAdam Schefter


Some think he's staying. RT @USC_Athletics: USC junior QB Matt Barkley will hold a press conference this afternoon to announce his decision.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-22-2011 10:55 AM

TonyPaulineTony Pauline

This comes as a shock to me but sources from So Cal tell me the word is Matt Barkley reversed course and is likely to stay at USC.

ToxSocks 12-22-2011 10:56 AM

Does it really matter anymore? We're not getting a top 3 QB. Just embrace your new O-lineman.

If Orton wins these two games, you can bank on a Trio of Orton, Cassel and Stanzi for 2012.

Dexter Manley 12-22-2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8228011)
Do these guys really have to hold press conferences to make the announcement?


Given the amount of $$$$$ he already took from USC loyalists, yeah...

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-22-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8228129)
Does it really matter anymore? We're not getting a top 3 QB. Just embrace your new O-lineman.

If Orton wins these two games, you can bank on a Trio of Orton, Cassel and Stanzi for 2012.

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Dexter Manley 12-22-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8228129)
Does it really matter anymore? We're not getting a top 3 QB. Just embrace your new O-lineman.

If Orton wins these two games, you can bank on a Trio of Orton, Cassel and Stanzi for 2012.


Why do the other Chiefs even bother to show up to the game then?

Just let Orton play, because "Orton wins," the Chiefs as a team do not...

The Franchise 12-22-2011 11:03 AM

Did Matt Kalil declare? I read an article that said that if one stayed...the other would stay.

Dexter Manley 12-22-2011 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8228145)
Did Matt Kalil declare? I read an article that said that if one stayed...the other would stay.

He is, apparently, as of the current, declaring and coming out...

Whether he will change his mind between now and Feb when he has to really decide may be something USC alum have a few weeks to ponder carefully...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


really carefully...

rico 12-22-2011 11:37 AM

Hype.

O.city 12-22-2011 11:39 AM

If he goes back because he wants to win a BCS champ and maybe a Heisman, good for him. The NFL isn't going anywhere.

HOwever if he gets hurt or goes full Leinhart, Sucks for him, maybe good for us.

He goes back has a bad year, falls down draft boards ala Rodgers Chiefs grab him at 25 and boom. Luck swings our way.

DaWolf 12-22-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8228011)
Do these guys really have to hold press conferences to make the announcement?

I suppose it could work either way. If you are staying, you get to leave the press conference having left your college fan base excited and patting you on the back.

If you announce you are going pro, it's probably a tool for Lane Kiffin to use in recruiting to say "Hey look, you too could be the next USC QB announcing your intention to go pro!"...

KC_Lee 12-22-2011 12:06 PM

Bet he stays for another year.

suds79 12-22-2011 12:07 PM

Definitely need him to come out to help our chances with RG3.

Not worried though. He's coming out.

SCTrojan 12-22-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8228145)
Did Matt Kalil declare? I read an article that said that if one stayed...the other would stay.

Kalil has already announced he's going. There was talk about the two of them making a joint decision, but that's gone by the wayside.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-22-2011 12:36 PM

Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora Close
FWIW, chatter in agent community is that Matt Barkley staying in school. These guys don't know for sure what he will announce, but they...

Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora Close
Are expecting to hear him say he is staying at USC.

The Franchise 12-22-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8228340)
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora Close
FWIW, chatter in agent community is that Matt Barkley staying in school. These guys don't know for sure what he will announce, but they...

Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora Close
Are expecting to hear him say he is staying at USC.

He must really want that Heisman.

Mr. Laz 12-22-2011 12:53 PM

why have a press conference to announce you're staying?

:shrug:


attention whore or leaving ...

DJ's left nut 12-22-2011 12:56 PM

sounds like he's staying.

If so, the cost of a 1st round QB just skyrocketed, possibly to the 'cost prohibitive' stage.

The Franchise 12-22-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8228352)
sounds like he's staying.

If so, the cost of a 1st round QB just skyrocketed, possibly to the 'cost prohibitive' stage.

Luck and RGIII are guaranteed Top 5 picks now.

Someone is going to draft Jones higher than they should. Hopefully that's not us.

Micjones 12-22-2011 01:34 PM

If he stays I guess we'll have to look at Jones, Foles or Tannehill.

Chiefs Pantalones 12-22-2011 01:36 PM

McShay has all three QBs going in the top 10. If Barkley does indeed stay we're gonna have to shell out more to move up to get one of the top two. Unlikely.

Mr. Laz 12-22-2011 01:43 PM

I don't know how anyone can say RGIII is a top 5 pick ........... yet.

could it happen? Hell yes, i could see the top 4 picks having 3 QB's considering the rookie salary cap.

1. Colts - Luck
2. Washington/Trade - RGIII
3. Rams - Kalil or Blackmon
4. Jags/Trade - Barkley

could see Barkley going before RGIII too

But if the top teams are asking too much in trade them the QB's could fall and guys like Blackmon and Claiborne could sneak up.

DaWolf 12-22-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8228428)
If he stays I guess we'll have to look at Jones, Foles or Tannehill.

More than likely, we'll need to start looking at non-QB prospects and hope the 2013 draft has a strong QB crop. Unless there is a slam dunk you can't pass on this guy QB sitting there for us in round 1, the Chiefs are probably going to stick with either Cassel or Orton, and express faith in Stanzi being the future...

philfree 12-22-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8228453)
More than likely, we'll need to start looking at non-QB prospects and hope the 2013 draft has a strong QB crop. Unless there is a slam dunk you can't pass on this guy QB sitting there for us in round 1, the Chiefs are probably going to stick with either Cassel or Orton, and express faith in Stanzi being the future...

Sounds about right. Orton is the starter and Cassel and Stanzi fight it for the #2 position. We draft the finsihing touches for our D a RB and some O line.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 01:58 PM

He's gonna be a 1st rounder, likely a top 5-10 pick. It would be foolish for him not to come out now, as the money isn't huge, but he'll hit his second contract earlier, but if he wants to stay, I guess that's his choice, and we'll roll with another year of retreads.

Chiefnj2 12-22-2011 02:01 PM

You are only young once. Enjoy college.

philfree 12-22-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 8228468)
Sounds about right. Orton is the starter and Cassel and Stanzi fight it for the #2 position. We draft the finsihing touches for our D a RB and some O line.

On second thought if we are keeping those three QBs then as soon as the season is over they should be put on notice that it's a three way competition for the starters position. That would open the doot for Stanzi and the future. If he is the future that is.

suds79 12-22-2011 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8228477)
He's gonna be a 1st rounder, likely a top 5-10 pick. It would be foolish for him not to come out now, as the money isn't huge, but he'll hit his second contract earlier, but if he wants to stay, I guess that's his choice, and we'll roll with another year of retreads.

This.

The man plays a contact sport where you can be done at any second.

You can still be young & have fun and get paid in the pros. See Mark Sanchez. ;)

Chiefnj2 12-22-2011 02:18 PM

For all those claiming "what if he gets injured" he'll have a mulit million dollar insurance policy.

From 2006:

"If Reggie Bush suffers a career-ending injury in the Rose Bowl, he'll lose out on the millions of dollars that would have greeted him in the professional ranks.

Don't worry, though. He's covered.

Bush, this year's Heisman Trophy winner and projected No. 1 pick in the NFL draft, holds insurance policies that cover him for up to $6 million. So he has financial protection against an injury, not only in the Rose Bowl, but also on a 24-hour basis until he signs a professional contract or Aug. 1, whichever comes first.

Some of his teammates at Southern Cal also are heavily insured. Quarterback Matt Leinart came back for his senior season in possession of an insurance policy for untold millions, while running back LenDale White ($2 million policy) and wide receiver Steve Smith ($1 million) both played this year with insurance protection in place. "

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-22-2011 02:21 PM

PeteThamelNYTPete Thamel

Barkley has told teammates he’s returning. Look for good news for USC fans at 4.

suds79 12-22-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8228521)
For all those claiming "what if he gets injured" he'll have a mulit million dollar insurance policy.

I guess it's smart.

If it was me, I'd just take the check rather than have to pay for insurance but I guess that's his call.

Jim Jones 12-22-2011 02:59 PM

Its hard to pass up the money, but if I were Barkley? No way in hell I'd leave. Who would pass up the opportunity to be the BMOC at USC for one whole year? I'm certain there are quite a few perks to that. Helps make the missed out millions a little easier.

suds79 12-22-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Jones (Post 8228599)
Its hard to pass up the money, but if I were Barkley? No way in hell I'd leave. Who would pass up the opportunity to be the BMOC at USC for one whole year? I'm certain there are quite a few perks to that. Helps make the missed out millions a little easier.

Being an NFL team's starting QB wouldn't be just the same?

Rain Man 12-22-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8228605)
Being an NFL team's starting QB wouldn't be just the same?

Plus he'll make almost double the money in the pros that he makes in college.

kcxiv 12-22-2011 03:06 PM

Hea staying RG3 is going high

jd1020 12-22-2011 03:07 PM

So... Tannehill in the first.

Saulbadguy 12-22-2011 03:07 PM

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

tmw4h5 12-22-2011 03:07 PM

We now have no shot at RG3.

FD 12-22-2011 03:07 PM

Some poor dumb bastards are going to blow a top 10 pick on Landry Jones now.

jd1020 12-22-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 8228611)
Hea staying RG3 is going high

He still hasn't decided if hes going to enter the draft.

Jim Jones 12-22-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8228605)
Being an NFL team's starting QB wouldn't be just the same?

No, I don't believe so.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-22-2011 03:07 PM

Orton is now in higher demand...

Reerun_KC 12-22-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8228618)
Orton is now in higher demand...

:banghead:

Dammit...

kcxiv 12-22-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8228616)
He still hasn't decided if hes going to enter the draft.

Hes dumb if he doesnt. Hes a top 5 pick right now. We will see. Alot of teams need qbs

suds79 12-22-2011 03:13 PM

We are so F-ed :hump::hump::hump:

No shot at RG3 now.

At this point it's either:

- Try for Manning
- Roll with Orton for a year or two, draft a QB next year
- Pray Stanzi is the next Tom Brady :p

Bane 12-22-2011 03:16 PM

Like you idiots ever had a chance anyway.See you SOON /Matt Cassel

booyaf2 12-22-2011 03:16 PM

Barkley to stay in school

jd1020 12-22-2011 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 8228620)
Hes dumb if he doesnt. Hes a top 5 pick right now. We will see. Alot of teams need qbs

I dont know about that. Look at the teams in the top 5.

Really there's only 1 team, maybe 2, that I can see drafting a QB 2-5.

Cleveland. Are they going to give up on McCoy? He's in a similar situation as Bradford. Clevelands entire offense is dogshit.

Then you have the Jags. Ya, they just drafted Gabbert. He's been awful. The team just fired their HC and went under new ownership. Gabberts bonuses were paid by the previous owner, if I'm not mistaken, so this new regime in Jacksonville could very well take a QB.

whoman69 12-22-2011 03:19 PM

Not a smart decision IMO. You don't make history in college. Doubtful he'll be Heisman winner so he's betting everything on a national championship. This kills our chances of a first round QB. From what everyone says looks like we dodged the Landry Jones bullet. Now he's going to win 3 Super Bowls with the Redskins.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 03:20 PM

:facepalm:

Tannehill??

jd1020 12-22-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8228639)
Not a smart decision IMO. You don't make history in college. Doubtful he'll be Heisman winner so he's betting everything on a national championship. This kills our chances of a first round QB. From what everyone says looks like we dodged the Landry Jones bullet. Now he's going to win 3 Super Bowls with the Redskins.

Pfft. I'll be shocked if Shanahan drafts Jones. Washington still has a shot at RG3. Even if they don't get RG3, I have to imagine Tannehill is higher on Shanahans board than Jones.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 03:25 PM

True Fans get their wish. Reilly Reiff, come on down.

Three7s 12-22-2011 03:26 PM

Clark Hunt: Hey Scott, did you see the Barkley press conference?

Scott Pioli: Yeah I did, looks like he's staying at USC for a year.

Clark Hunt: Isn't this great? Now we don't have to make another hard decision in the draft!.

Scott Pioli: I know, right? We can do whatever we want and with no QBs to take, no one can blame us!

Clark Hunt: This is perfect, hopefully one of our QBs will become so good that we won't have to ever draft a QB.

Scott Pioli: That's the plan!

:banghead:

kstater 12-22-2011 03:27 PM

What a reerun.

jd1020 12-22-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8228642)
:facepalm:

Tannehill??

More like the only QB's that it was ever going to be...

Foles
Cousins
Weeden
Lindley

Chris Meck 12-22-2011 03:29 PM

disappointing news.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 03:29 PM

Don't worry, when we finish 9-7 or 10-6 next year, we'll only be that ILB, C, RB, NT, FS, or RT away from making a deep playoff run.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8228665)
More like the only QB's that it was ever going to be...

Foles
Cousins
Weeden
Lindley

Brandon Weeden should not be drafted at all. He's older than Aaron Rodgers, FFS.

jd1020 12-22-2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8228672)
Brandon Weeden should not be drafted at all. He's older than Aaron Rodgers, FFS.

He still fits the Pioli prototype.

Another one could be EJ Manuel but I haven't really watched him and how he plays and there isn't much out there on him. I think he's more of a runner, though.

DaWolf 12-22-2011 03:35 PM

So he's basically pulling an Andrew Luck. Good for him. Probably the best recruiting job Kiffin has done.

I think that's a great position to be in if you are Barkley. You can establish your legacy in SC and basically establish yourself as a local legend, then move on to the NFL as the first overall pick if all goes well...

tk13 12-22-2011 03:38 PM

I already thought RGIII was going to shoot up the board, now he definitely will.

Good news is, if you were worried the Chiefs were winning meaningless games and hurting their draft position... now it might not even matter. You just never know.

Hootie 12-22-2011 03:39 PM

why does he need a press conference to announce he's returning?

and he's a queer anyways

I'll take RGIII, **** Barkley

Beef Supreme 12-22-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8228672)
Brandon Weeden should not be drafted at all. He's older than Aaron Rodgers, FFS.

Which is why you can probably pick him up late.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8228689)
I already thought RGIII was going to shoot up the board, now he definitely will.

Good news is, if you were worried the Chiefs were winning meaningless games and hurting their draft position... now it might not even matter. You just never know.

:spock:

Hootie 12-22-2011 03:43 PM

which means when RGIII goes #2 overall we weren't going to get him anyways

tk13 12-22-2011 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8228705)
:spock:

It's not rocket science. None of the top 3 QB (now 2) is falling to us, most likely. We can certainly draft a QB in the 1st round, but it's probably going to be a guy that would've been there anyway. We're going to be picking in a position to reach like teams reached for Ponder or Freeman the past couple years.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Short Leash Hootie (Post 8228709)
which means when RGIII goes #2 overall we weren't going to get him anyways

If we were drafting at 6 or 8 it was a hell of a lot more likely than at 16.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8228711)
It's not rocket science. None of the top 3 QB (now 2) is falling to us, most likely. We can certainly draft a QB in the 1st round, but it's probably going to be a guy that would've been there anyway. We're going to be picking in a position to reach like teams reached for Ponder or Freeman the past couple years.

Which assumes the impossibility of a trade up if our draft spot were top ten. The precise reason why the SD and Chicago wins were pointless is because of where it puts us right now. Barkley's decision doesn't validate those wins, it shows how damaging they were.

tredadda 12-22-2011 03:47 PM

Well, it looks like Andrew Luck's stock went even higher than it already was. Now so is RGIIIs. Barkley made a smart move though. If he had come out this year he would have been Top 5. Next year barring a massive fall off or injury he will go #1. I wonder what people on here want to do now. Trade up and give up alot more for Luck or RGIII? Draft a second tier QB in the first round? Stick with what we currently have and have Cassel, Orton, and Stanzi battle it out for the starting job?

Hootie 12-22-2011 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8228714)
If we were drafting at 6 or 8 it was a hell of a lot more likely than at 16.

tanking doesn't exist bro

teams don't tank in the NFL

head coaches are paid to win games, not care about draft position

Hootie 12-22-2011 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8228717)
Which assumes the impossibility of a trade up if our draft spot were top ten. The precise reason why the SD and Chicago wins were pointless is because of where it puts us right now. Barkley's decision doesn't validate those wins, it shows how damaging they were.

every win is pointless if you don't win the Super Bowl

so for the drafturbators it's 0-16 or Super Bowl...those are the only two acceptable outcomes

teams don't play to lose...Herm got that right

people need to get over that

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Short Leash Hootie (Post 8228722)
tanking doesn't exist bro

teams don't tank in the NFL

head coaches are paid to win games, not care about draft position

I have never once asked the Chiefs players or coaches to tank. No one has. Hoping the team loses in a lost season does not equal wanting the team to tank. They are completely discrete entities.

I'd actually like the Chiefs to play very well and lose in absolutely flukish fashion, precisely the opposite of what happened in Chicago and SD.

suds79 12-22-2011 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8228719)
I wonder what people on here want to do now. Trade up and give up alot more for Luck or RGIII? Draft a second tier QB in the first round? Stick with what we currently have and have Cassel, Orton, and Stanzi battle it out for the starting job?

To trade up for Luck is impossible. Indy is making that pick. He's dead to me.

The trade up to RG3 is even more unlikely now. I'm all for making that move to get him but realistically, I don't see it happening. We're too far away.

Unless the Chiefs get in the Manning Sweepstakes, I suppose our only option now is to roll with Orton. If you can sign him to a 2 year deal? Fine. But he'll want more. I'd franchise him for 1 year (yes it's overpaying) and draft a QB next year high if there's not a guy they like in this year's draft.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-22-2011 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Short Leash Hootie (Post 8228725)
every win is pointless if you don't win the Super Bowl

so for the drafturbators it's 0-16 or Super Bowl...those are the only two acceptable outcomes

teams don't play to lose...Herm got that right

people need to get over that

This is also false.

Teams have to learn how to compete, there is no doubt, but without a QB you aren't going to be able to compete. If we were fortunate enough to start a rookie QB, I'd fight tooth and nail for every win in a 4-12 or 5-11 season, no matter its impact on draft position. But until we get that QB, we're stuck in neutral.


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