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Rain Man 12-27-2011 06:48 PM

Some facts about international travel.
 
I'm looking through a report and have the following fun tidbits to share. It's about "overseas" travel, so I'm presuming that it excludes people driving across our borders with our friendly neighbors to the north and south.

There were 28.5 million trips overseas taken by Americans in 2010.

Residents of the state of New York accounted for 19 percent of all trips. If you exclude California, this is about the same amount as all of the states west of the Mississippi combined plus the upper Midwest states of Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, and Wisconsin.

Nearly half (47%) of international trips involve staying at a private home. (I interpret this to mean that it's less about vacation and more about visiting family in the home country. Maybe there's another interpretation.)

The median international trip is 11 days, and the mean is 17 days.

84% are visiting 1 country, 11% are visiting 2 countries, and 5% are visiting 3 or more.

The most common points of entry (presumably on return) are New York (22%), Newark (12%), Los Angeles (9%), Miami (7%), and Atlanta (7%). However, the two documents have different figures, with the other one showing departures as follows: New York (18%), Miami (12%), Los Angeles (9%), Atlanta (8%), and Newark (8%) as the largest airports where people leave from. I think the second set of figures is better.

The top ten destinations for overseas travel are (in order): United Kingdom, Dominican Republic (WTF?), France, Italy, Germany, Jamaica (wow), China, Japan, Spain, and India. If you add air trips (not driving) to Canada and Mexico, Mexico is an easy #1 and Canada is an easy #2.

The average expenditure on an overseas trip is $4,327.



Sources:

http://tinet.ita.doc.gov/outreachpag...nd_Profile.pdf

http://tinet.ita.doc.gov/outreachpag...vel_Abroad.pdf

If you want to look at overall tourism from the world and not just America, you can check out this site: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/ST.INT.RCPT.CD

listopencil 12-27-2011 06:50 PM

May this thread never die.

mlyonsd 12-27-2011 06:52 PM

I'd love to go on a WWII battle trip someday. London, Normandy, Battle of the Bulge, Germany.

listopencil 12-27-2011 06:53 PM

This is a much better thread.

Simply Red 12-27-2011 06:55 PM

let's make this one the RPT

http://i40.tinypic.com/2vl9kw9.jpg

Simply Red 12-27-2011 06:57 PM

did anyone else ever invert their truck hardware to ollie higher? In 1989 I mean.....

Bwana 12-27-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8239815)
The top ten destinations for overseas travel are (in order): United Kingdom, Dominican Republic (WTF?), France, Italy, Germany, Jamaica (wow), China, Japan, Spain, and India. If you add air trips (not driving) to Canada and Mexico, Mexico is an easy #1 and Canada is an easy #2.

The D.R.? You have got to be shitting me. The can't be right.

Spott 12-27-2011 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 8239834)
did anyone else ever invert their truck hardware to ollie higher? In 1989 I mean.....

Would that actually make you ollie higher? I remember some of the other skater kids doing it but they were doing it so the kingpin wouldn't hang up on coping on half pipes.

cdcox 12-27-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 8239853)
The D.R.? You have got to be shitting me. The can't be right.

I'll bet it's people flying into the DR to cross the boarder into Haiti on humanitarian aid trips.

Rain Man 12-27-2011 07:19 PM

Seeing these two threads battle each other is like watching my children in a death match.

Rain Man 12-27-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 8239860)
I'll bet it's people flying into the DR to cross the boarder into Haiti on humanitarian aid trips.

I was wondering if maybe there were some high-volume resorts there I didn't know about, or if it's a big kickoff point for cruises. But it's not the latter. I don't get it unless it's something humanitarian like you mentioned.

I don't know too if we've admitted a bunch of refugees who tend to go back frequently. I don't think there were enough adoptions in the earthquake to make a dent in these numbers if people were still doing paperwork.

That earthquake was a monster, though, so you may be right. There may be a lot of help and rebuilding going on, in addition to the fact that Haiti wasn't exactly a utopia before the quake.

Simply Red 12-27-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 8239858)
Would that actually make you ollie higher? I remember some of the other skater kids doing it but they were doing it so the kingpin wouldn't hang up on coping on half pipes.

probably both, actually, most street skaters did it, it actually did help, but it hurt if you didn't have vision street wear side paded shoes. I usually just skated ditches. OK, hijack done.

Bwana 12-27-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 8239860)
I'll bet it's people flying into the DR to cross the boarder into Haiti on humanitarian aid trips.

It would have to be something like that, because I can't see that many people going to the DR, "just because."

Get on it Mr. Kevin. WHY is the DR ranked #2?

Spott 12-27-2011 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 8239865)
probably both, actually, most street skaters did it, it actually did help, but it hurt if you didn't have vision street wear side paded shoes. I usually just skated ditches. OK, hijack done.

Skate shoes always wore through quicker. I actually used Nike's because they lasted a lot longer. I never reversed them but I guess it would have given you more of a tail/nose. Instead of doing that I would drill a couple of more holes in the deck and move the front truck closer to the center to make the nose longer because the noses in that era were really short.

cdcox 12-27-2011 07:35 PM

My brother was into some high end skate boards in the late 1970's. I bet his board would be worth something on the vintage market if it was in good condition.

cdcox 12-27-2011 07:37 PM

I know at least a half dozen people that have made trips to Haiti since the quake. A lot of college student groups and church groups have made trips.

cdcox 12-27-2011 09:02 PM

A group of students in my department are looking at building bag houses in Haiti. A bag house is constructed of "bags" filled with aggregate. In the case of Haiti, they are going to look at busting up the rubble left over from the earthquake. That way they don't have to import any gravel, which would be very expensive.

whoman69 12-27-2011 09:07 PM

We went to Spain. Took off from Chicago. Stayed in a private home in part because the cost of hotels is astronomical.

MIAdragon 12-27-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 8239853)
The D.R.? You have got to be shitting me. The can't be right.

I go once a year, its very nice.

Bwana 12-27-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 8240013)
I go once a year, its very nice.

I was seriously thinking about it myself this year, but decided to head back to Belize, perhaps next year?

The Bunk 12-27-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8239815)
I'm looking through a report and have the following fun tidbits to share. It's about "overseas" travel, so I'm presuming that it excludes people driving across our borders with our friendly neighbors to the north and south.

Not that it has anything to do with anything, but traveling to Canada for work is a bitch. Everytime I've had to cross the border, I get interrogated as to the reasons I'm there. Most other countries wave you across without usually even asking you what your business is. I always found it kind of ironic, because who the hell would want to be in Canada that didn't have to be?

cdcox 12-27-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bunk (Post 8240015)
Not that it has anything to do with anything, but traveling to Canada for work is a bitch. Everytime I've had to cross the border, I get interrogated as to the reasons I'm there. Most other countries wave you across without usually even asking you what your business is. I always found it kind of ironic, because who the hell would want to be in Canada that didn't have to be?

Mexico and Great Britain both quiz you too.

Rain Man 12-27-2011 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 8240001)
A group of students in my department are looking at building bag houses in Haiti. A bag house is constructed of "bags" filled with aggregate. In the case of Haiti, they are going to look at busting up the rubble left over from the earthquake. That way they don't have to import any gravel, which would be very expensive.

That's a good idea.

I saw some show about purifying water in these countries, and it turns out that if you take the uncleaned water and set it on the roof of your hovel in the normal plastic water bottles, something about the heat and UV rays or whatever kills all the bad stuff in the water. I suspect you know far more about that than I'm conveying, but I thought it was a bizarrely simple solution.

Rain Man 12-27-2011 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bunk (Post 8240015)
Not that it has anything to do with anything, but traveling to Canada for work is a bitch. Everytime I've had to cross the border, I get interrogated as to the reasons I'm there. Most other countries wave you across without usually even asking you what your business is. I always found it kind of ironic, because who the hell would want to be in Canada that didn't have to be?

So are you a logger, or do you work in the hockey field?

(Sorry, Canadians. I couldn't resist.)

cdcox 12-27-2011 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8240018)
That's a good idea.

I saw some show about purifying water in these countries, and it turns out that if you take the uncleaned water and set it on the roof of your hovel in the normal plastic water bottles, something about the heat and UV rays or whatever kills all the bad stuff in the water. I suspect you know far more about that than I'm conveying, but I thought it was a bizarrely simple solution.

I wasn't aware of this when you posted it and figured you were talking about some kind of solar still or something. I'm more familiar with the large scale processes used in developed countries. These might include filtration systems with gravel under drains. This solar disinfection is pretty interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_water_disinfection

Setsuna 12-28-2011 12:04 AM

Why the hell are you idiots talking about skateboards? Gtfo.

Slainte 12-28-2011 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 8240013)
I go once a year, its very nice.

$13 prostitutes, or so I'm told...

Slainte 12-28-2011 02:03 AM

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The top ten destinations for overseas travel are (in order): United Kingdom, Dominican Republic (WTF?), France, Italy, Germany, Jamaica (wow), China, Japan, Spain, and India.
My next major dest-O-nation, Beijing...

The Bunk 12-28-2011 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 8240016)
Mexico and Great Britain both quiz you too.

Not nearly to the extent of Canada (at least for the UK, I can't speak to the extent of Mexico).

The Bunk 12-28-2011 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8240019)
So are you a logger, or do you work in the hockey field?

(Sorry, Canadians. I couldn't resist.)

That's about all there is there, other than Tim Horton's.

Rain Man 12-28-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Slainte (Post 8240464)
$13 prostitutes, or so I'm told...

Wow, that's less than the cost of a pizza, and you don't have to tip the driver.

listopencil 12-28-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bunk (Post 8240015)
Not that it has anything to do with anything, but traveling to Canada for work is a bitch. Everytime I've had to cross the border, I get interrogated as to the reasons I'm there. Most other countries wave you across without usually even asking you what your business is. I always found it kind of ironic, because who the hell would want to be in Canada that didn't have to be?

Really? I thought they just said, "Welcome to Canada!" and gave you a beaver/moose and some lumber or something.

Slainte 12-29-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8240993)
Wow, that's less than the cost of a pizza, and you don't have to tip the driver.

Perhaps--but when you call for the pie, be sure to insist they go *light on the sauce*...

suzzer99 12-29-2011 06:55 PM

Which state had the least international trips per capita? My money's on Alabama.

whoman69 12-29-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Slainte (Post 8240464)
$13 prostitutes, or so I'm told...

That's even cheaper than Amsterdam.

whoman69 12-29-2011 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bunk (Post 8240015)
Not that it has anything to do with anything, but traveling to Canada for work is a bitch. Everytime I've had to cross the border, I get interrogated as to the reasons I'm there. Most other countries wave you across without usually even asking you what your business is. I always found it kind of ironic, because who the hell would want to be in Canada that didn't have to be?

mountie: do you have any firearms to declare?

steven wright: what do you need?

RJ 12-29-2011 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8239864)
I was wondering if maybe there were some high-volume resorts there I didn't know about, or if it's a big kickoff point for cruises. But it's not the latter. I don't get it unless it's something humanitarian like you mentioned.

I don't know too if we've admitted a bunch of refugees who tend to go back frequently. I don't think there were enough adoptions in the earthquake to make a dent in these numbers if people were still doing paperwork.

That earthquake was a monster, though, so you may be right. There may be a lot of help and rebuilding going on, in addition to the fact that Haiti wasn't exactly a utopia before the quake.


There's about a bazillion D.R.'s living in New York.

Amnorix 12-30-2011 01:43 AM

I know an attorney who goes to the D.R. every year on a golf trip with the same group of 6 or so friends. Every February like clockwork. Been doing it for 20 years. I assume the golfing is a big draw, but I'm stunned it's THAT big a draw.

Cash 12-30-2011 08:10 AM

Have you been to London lately? It's like NYC with worse breath.


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