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Buck 01-05-2012 05:08 PM

Any plans to drop GoDaddy?
 
You know with that whole SOPA thing going on? GoDaddy is a huge supporter of SOPA and I'm pretty sure that ChiefsPlanet should be against it.

DRU 01-05-2012 05:09 PM

Thousands of people have already dropped them, and since then they've "relaxed" their views on it.

They suck regardless, though, and I'd never recommend them for hosting in the first place.

HemiEd 01-05-2012 05:11 PM

If it goes through, it would free up some of my time.

Bugeater 01-05-2012 05:27 PM

I have no ****ing idea what you're talking about.

lewdog 01-05-2012 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8267022)
I have no ****ing idea what you're talking about.

+1...all of this.

Iowanian 01-05-2012 05:31 PM

I'm up for renewal with them.

Why should I?

Service has been steady and it's not too expensive in comparison to other's I've checked. Far better record for time down than my last host.

Shogun 01-05-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8267022)
I have no ****ing idea what you're talking about.

hes sayin us here midwesterners cant bathe properly!!!!!! :mad:

TimeForWasp 01-05-2012 05:33 PM

Sopa Wata


http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=500&h=363

Buck 01-05-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8267028)
I'm up for renewal with them.

Why should I?

Service has been steady and it's not too expensive in comparison to other's I've checked. Far better record for time down than my last host.

Well I was talking about ChiefsPlanet specifically, but give me a minute and I'll get you some stuff you can read and then make up your mind whether or not you want to renew with them.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 05:50 PM

They went the other way on SOPA just in case you want an OP that isn't misleading.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 05:51 PM

Buck saw something on 4chan so now he is on a quest.

Buck 01-05-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8267061)
They went the other way on SOPA just in case you want an OP that isn't misleading.

No they didn't.

Rain Man 01-05-2012 05:56 PM

Is this related to sopapillas? Because I like sopapillas.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267066)
No they didn't.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57...opyright-bill/

Buck 01-05-2012 05:56 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

It's the Stop Online Piracy Act.

Just read the Arguments Against section. Read the Arguments in Favor too.

GoDaddy supports SOPA, which if passed, will destroy Net Neutrality and create censorship on the internet in levels we've never seen.

Buck 01-05-2012 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8267076)

The only reason they came out and said that is because of all the money they are losing.

It's an attempt by their PR department to save face.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267082)
The only reason they came out and said that is because of all the money they are losing.

It's an attempt by their PR department to save face.

You are right they did it as a reaction but you can't fake that. They have gone out of their way to get off the SOPA train.

I know you are making quite a name for yourself always being wrong on this board but I thought I would just throw out the actual situation in case you were interested.

http://mashable.com/2011/12/23/godad...port-reversal/

Fritz88 01-05-2012 06:04 PM

Reddit launched a campaign against GoDaddy that had Wikipedia and other major websites stop using GoDaddy. I also heard that GoDaddy did reconsider its SOPA and that it's no longer endorsing it.

Good on you Buck.

Right now I am waiting for some certain peeps in here to come and say that SOPA is actually good.

morphius 01-05-2012 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8267090)
Reddit launched a campaign against GoDaddy that had Wikipedia and other major websites stop using GoDaddy. I also heard that GoDaddy did reconsider its SOPA and that it's no longer endorsing it.

Good on you Buck.

Right now I am waiting for some certain peeps in here to come and say that SOPA is actually good.

Well, if Dane hadn't left you probably wouldn't have had to wait long.

GloryDayz 01-05-2012 06:45 PM

This very geeky...and very lawyerly too.... Yawn...

BreesLightning 01-05-2012 06:48 PM

I hear Bob Parsons is a Chargers and Raiders fan too. In that order ;)

DRU 01-05-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 8267167)
This very geeky...and very lawyerly too.... Yawn...

I won't just effect geeks, though. It'll effect anybody and everybody who uses the internet in any fashion today.

For example, I would imagine it would be extremely hard for Chiefsplanet to continue running. The way SOPA reads (they're trying to redefine the word "includes") anybody who ever mentioned a song lyric, had a picture of an album as their avatar, said anything about how/where to get music, movies, etc. would cause Chiefsplanet to potentially get shut down and could even bring charges against the website owners.

As such, the mods would have to HEAVILY moderate each and every piece of information to ever come through this site in order to not get charges pressed against them. Guess what, they're gonna need a lot more donations to even try to do something like that, I'm sure. But guess what else? Payments in general will be very tough to manage because that raises the question on the whole "potential" of earning money for counterfeit or stolen products and you'd get flagged every time you sold something, basically. It'd be a nightmare.

So, they'd probably just do away with it, and we wouldn't have nice sites like this at all. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. They'd all have to deal with this same HEAVY moderation. You wouldn't be able to post live stuff on Facebook anymore. They'd have to moderate it before it ever got out, so you'd be waiting in ques, and they'd have to be extremely picky about anything they approve.

Then you think about how it would cripple any new, cool ideas and solutions for things online to come about. Entrepreneurs would be stopped in their tracks before they ever get started.

It doesn't even solve the "problem" these guys are trying to fix, either, which is the most ridiculous part.

DaFace 01-05-2012 06:59 PM

SOPA's idiotic, but I doubt GoDaddy's gonna care about my $12/year too much. At least not enough for me to go through the effort of moving.

Pants 01-05-2012 06:59 PM

How ****ing greedy can you get? ****ing assholes.

DaFace 01-05-2012 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRU (Post 8267191)
For example, I would imagine it would be extremely hard for Chiefsplanet to continue running. The way SOPA reads (they're trying to redefine the word "includes") anybody who ever mentioned a song lyric, had a picture of an album as their avatar, said anything about how/where to get music, movies, etc. would cause Chiefsplanet to potentially get shut down and could even bring charges against the website owners.

As such, the mods would have to HEAVILY moderate each and every piece of information to ever come through this site in order to not get charges pressed against them. Guess what, they're gonna need a lot more donations to even try to do something like that, I'm sure. But guess what else? Payments in general will be very tough to manage because that raises the question on the whole "potential" of earning money for counterfeit or stolen products and you'd get flagged every time you sold something, basically. It'd be a nightmare.

Based on my understanding, this isn't an exaggeration. Frankly, if there's any chance I could personally get in trouble for what someone else posts on here, my mod-dom would end in a hurry.

DRU 01-05-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8267197)
How ****ing greedy can you get? ****ing assholes.

The thing that really gets me is that there is plenty of data that shows they're making a hell of a lot more now than they ever were before Napster.

The ability for people to trade music (among other things) allows millions of people to find you when they never would without it. These are millions of people who are now telling their friends and family about you. All of that exposure will drop drastically if this were to pass, and they'll find out they made a huge mistake, I'm sure.

I would LOVE it if people were downloading USBSwiper on piratebay thousands of times per day.

Phobia 01-05-2012 07:39 PM

I think we have a little bit of crap on godaddy but most our stuff is hosted with a local ISP. Their dependability isn't quite as high but the pricing is similar and I'd rather support a local guy and live with the 1% downtime.

Buck 01-05-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8267086)
You are right they did it as a reaction but you can't fake that. They have gone out of their way to get off the SOPA train.

I know you are making quite a name for yourself always being wrong on this board but I thought I would just throw out the actual situation in case you were interested.

http://mashable.com/2011/12/23/godad...port-reversal/

LOL nobody ****ing cares.

Anyway, for example, under SOPA, they could shut down all of ChiefsPlanet if they saw that someone copypasted a news article into a thread. That's why it shouldn't pass.

GoDaddy has supported SOPA from the get go. They lost a shit load of money and tried to say they didn't to save face, but there are still things written into the bill that would protect GoDaddy from being affected by the bill.

rico 01-05-2012 07:58 PM

Wordpress... Thesis theme. You can do about anything with that.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267280)
but there are still things written into the bill that would protect GoDaddy from being affected by the bill.

Link?

Buck 01-05-2012 08:31 PM

http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com...-never-end.php

Quote:

Polis pointed out that SOPA and Smith’s amendment already excluded certain operators of sub-domains, such as GoDaddy.com, from being subject to shutdowns under SOPA.

“If companies like GoDaddy.com are exempt, why aren’t non-commercial domain servers exempt?” Polis asked.

Polis also pointed out that the House’s own sub-domain servers could also be subject to shutdown if they were the accused of copyright infringement.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 08:41 PM

I see nothing which mentions GoDaddy in any form that could let them be distinguished in some form apart from their competitors.

Do you?

Here is a summary of the bill.

http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/Ro...0Amendment.pdf

Here is the full text. The whole thing.

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/...0Amendment.pdf

How can they be exempt from anything if there is no language that singles them out in any way?

Ask 4-chan and tell them to feed you a response real quick Buck.

Buck 01-05-2012 08:46 PM

Where the **** are you getting the idea that I heard about this on 4chan?

|Zach| 01-05-2012 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267444)
Where the **** are you getting the idea that I heard about this on shhhh?

Seems everything you talk about comes from there except for when you talk about your mother.

Buck 01-05-2012 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8267423)
I see nothing which mentions GoDaddy in any form that could let them be distinguished in some form apart from their competitors.

Do you?

Here is a summary of the bill.

http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/Ro...0Amendment.pdf

Here is the full text. The whole thing.

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/...0Amendment.pdf

How can they be exempt from anything if there is no language that singles them out in any way?

Ask 4-chan and tell them to feed you a response real quick Buck.

Here you go by the way.

15 (a) IN GENERAL.—No cause of action shall lie in any
16 Federal or State court or administrative agency against,
17 no person may rely in any claim or cause of action against,
18 and no liability for damages to any person shall be granted
19 against, a service provider, payment network provider,
20 Internet advertising service, advertiser, Internet search
21 engine, domain name registry, domain name registrar, en22
tity described in section 101(20)(B), or Internet Protocol
23 Allocation entity, including any director, officers, employ24
ees, or agents of any such entity, only for taking the ac25
tions described in section 102(c)(2) or section 103(c)(2)...

Buck 01-05-2012 08:58 PM

And please, I beg of you, to find one thing that I have ever posted that came from 4-chan.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267472)
Here you go by the way.

15 (a) IN GENERAL.—No cause of action shall lie in any
16 Federal or State court or administrative agency against,
17 no person may rely in any claim or cause of action against,
18 and no liability for damages to any person shall be granted
19 against, a service provider, payment network provider,
20 Internet advertising service, advertiser, Internet search
21 engine, domain name registry, domain name registrar, en22
tity described in section 101(20)(B), or Internet Protocol
23 Allocation entity, including any director, officers, employ24
ees, or agents of any such entity, only for taking the ac25
tions described in section 102(c)(2) or section 103(c)(2)...

Swing and a miss.

From about 3 seconds ago.
I see nothing which mentions GoDaddy in any form that could let them be distinguished in some form apart from their competitors.

Buck 01-05-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8267507)
Swing and a miss.

From about 3 seconds ago.
I see nothing which mentions GoDaddy in any form that could let them be distinguished in some form apart from their competitors.

Oh great. You got me, however GoDaddy is one of few who supported SOPA, and though they don't publicly do so any more, they helped write the SOPA bill themselves and got clauses in there to protect themselves.

There are plenty of other sites out there that provide the same services as GoDaddy for the same price who do not support SOPA or flat out are against it.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267515)
Oh great. You got me, however GoDaddy is one of few who supported SOPA, and though they don't publicly do so any more, they helped write the SOPA bill themselves and got clauses in there to protect themselves.

There are plenty of other sites out there that provide the same services as GoDaddy for the same price who do not support SOPA or flat out are against it.

It isn't about getting you it is about you being careless with truthful info from the get go. I don't have a problem with you being completely misled but why spread it around?

penguinz 01-05-2012 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267515)
Oh great. You got me, however GoDaddy is one of few who supported SOPA, and though they don't publicly do so any more, they helped write the SOPA bill themselves and got clauses in there to protect themselves.

There are plenty of other sites out there that provide the same services as GoDaddy for the same price who do not support SOPA or flat out are against it.

That does not mean they had nothing to do with getting this language put in the bill just in case it were to ever get passed.

Buck 01-05-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8267521)
It isn't about getting you it is about you being careless with truthful info from the get go. I don't have a problem with you being completely misled but why spread it around?

Hey, dumbass, do you think I'm the only one talking about this shit?

It's all over the internet.

It's on every single news site, countless blogs, every social networking site, thousands and thousands of message boards, etc.

But apparently since you saw it posted on 4-chan one time and that was the only place you saw it, you assumed that I was talking out of my ass and that I am some dipshit from that stupid ****ing website.

Get real. Search SOPA on Google, or even on Google News. You are a dumb****, Zach.

Tytanium 01-05-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8267028)
I'm up for renewal with them.

Why should I?

Service has been steady and it's not too expensive in comparison to other's I've checked. Far better record for time down than my last host.

Godaddy is a domain registrar, not a webhost.

Bump 01-05-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267078)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

It's the Stop Online Piracy Act.

Just read the Arguments Against section. Read the Arguments in Favor too.

GoDaddy supports SOPA, which if passed, will destroy Net Neutrality and create censorship on the internet in levels we've never seen.

ooooh, this is what that dude was talkin about the other day

DaFace 01-05-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytanium (Post 8267557)
Godaddy is a domain registrar, not a webhost.

Eh, technically they do offer some basic hosting packages. But you're right that domain registrations are, by far, their biggest line of business.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267539)
Hey, dumbass, do you think I'm the only one talking about this shit?

It's all over the internet.

It's on every single news site, countless blogs, every social networking site, thousands and thousands of message boards, etc.

But apparently since you saw it posted on 4-chan one time and that was the only place you saw it, you assumed that I was talking out of my ass and that I am some dipshit from that stupid ****ing website.

Get real. Search SOPA on Google, or even on Google News. You are a dumb****, Zach.

No, I don't think any of that.

I am completely against SOPA I was responding quite specifically to your characterization of GoDaddy's involvement.

Sorry you got all emotional about the whole thing. If only joey was here to dry your tears.

Buck 01-05-2012 09:34 PM

Go **** yourself bud. I'm done talking to you.

|Zach| 01-05-2012 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8267598)
Go **** yourself bud. I'm done talking to you.

http://sillywalksinthepines.files.wo...2/sad-face.png

scorpio 01-05-2012 09:39 PM

Oh, Zach. I hope you never stop being a giant piece of shit.

alnorth 01-05-2012 11:24 PM

If GoDaddy were still supporting SOPA, I'd agree. However, since GoDaddy swiftly reversed their position and bowed to the will of the angry internet mob, there's no longer a need or a point to a boycott, unless you wanna be spiteful and punish them for ever supporting SOPA at all.

Cornstock 01-05-2012 11:39 PM

If this SOPA thing ends up going through would using a VPN help to get around all the censoring and stuff. Or would a 2nd "underground" internet be the only way to do the same stuff?

pr_capone 01-05-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 8267845)
If this SOPA thing ends up going through would using a VPN help to get around all the censoring and stuff. Or would a 2nd "underground" internet be the only way to do the same stuff?

https://www.torproject.org/

|Zach| 01-05-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 8267822)
If GoDaddy were still supporting SOPA, I'd agree. However, since GoDaddy swiftly reversed their position and bowed to the will of the angry internet mob, there's no longer a need or a point to a boycott, unless you wanna be spiteful and punish them for ever supporting SOPA at all.

Exactly.

Moobs 01-05-2012 11:50 PM

Jesus Zach is a prick.

Cornstock 01-05-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8267852)

Would that help or would the government just go after the websites and companies? I already have a kickass VPN similar to this Tor but I'm not sure it would help.

pr_capone 01-06-2012 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 8267867)
Would that help or would the government just go after the websites and companies? I already have a kickass VPN similar to this Tor but I'm not sure it would help.

It would allow you to get around any blocks of the internet because it essentially uses other computer in other countries as proxies for your connection. It is slow... but better than nothing.

DRU 01-06-2012 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 8267845)
If this SOPA thing ends up going through would using a VPN help to get around all the censoring and stuff. Or would a 2nd "underground" internet be the only way to do the same stuff?

A VPN just connects you to another network. If that network is being blocked then it does you no good. Proxies are similar and wouldn't do the trick.

A secondary internet would be the only way to truly get around it, and I've seen basic information already about private companies launching their own satellites to basically start a completely separate internet network that would not be part of the same internet as we know it today.

Here's a quick video that gives you a better idea of what all this is: http://front.moveon.org/why-the-inte...nger-right-now

BryanBusby 01-06-2012 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 8267822)
If GoDaddy were still supporting SOPA, I'd agree. However, since GoDaddy swiftly reversed their position and bowed to the will of the angry internet mob, there's no longer a need or a point to a boycott, unless you wanna be spiteful and punish them for ever supporting SOPA at all.

The fact that they suck should be enough of a reason.

DaFace 01-17-2012 11:23 PM

Wikipedia blackout is beginning.

DRU 01-17-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8307187)
Wikipedia blackout is beginning.

Yeah, I'm not really sure I understand the logic behind all of them going dark for a day. Is it supposed to prove a point that if these sites had to go away (which they more than likely would if SOPA / PIP passes) we all wouldn't be very happy?

Google and Facebook aren't going dark but apparently they're going to put banners all over the place for the day discouraging the whole thing.

I don't understand why the music and movie industries just can't understand that they will never be able to stop the sharing of their product. Rather than fight with it, put all these resources to use figuring out how to take advantage of such a high demand for your product instead of shitting on people for enjoying it so much and completely ruining the internet, which again, won't even solve the problem.

Fritz88 01-17-2012 11:34 PM

White house blocked the act, didn't they?
Posted via Mobile Device

DRU 01-17-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8307209)
White house blocked the act, didn't they?
Posted via Mobile Device

They said they wouldn't sign it as-is, but that's not stopping the people fighting to make it happen.

Johnny Vegas 01-18-2012 02:04 AM

so Wikipedia is shutting down and Google blanked out their logo on their homepage in protest of SOPA.

bevischief 01-18-2012 07:23 AM

I thought the house shot it down yesterday?

htismaqe 01-18-2012 08:07 AM

The Wikipedia blackout is pretty damn inconvenient.

I hope the legislature takes this seriously.

Then again, they'll follow the money so we're ****ed in the end.

Sofa King 01-18-2012 08:12 AM

Chive is down today protesting it. I guess that means I'm protesting it as well.

http://sopastrike.com/strike

durtyrute 01-18-2012 08:17 AM

Anyone remember back in the day when you would buy a tape and one of your friends would want to copy it? What's the difference?

007 01-18-2012 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8307530)
Anyone remember back in the day when you would buy a tape and one of your friends would want to copy it? What's the difference?

Yep and every single store out there had radios with dual cassette decks so you could copy things.

durtyrute 01-18-2012 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8307534)
Yep and every single store out there had radios with dual cassette decks so you could copy things.

Yea, I don't get this shit. Why all of a sudden is it a crime to share music.

Mr. Plow 01-18-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8307530)
Anyone remember back in the day when you would buy a tape and one of your friends would want to copy it? What's the difference?

My parents had the largest collection of recorded VHS movies that I still have ever seen.

loochy 01-18-2012 08:39 AM

Please everybody sign this petition to congress: https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/


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