Go on the record about Tebow.
 

Poll coming.

Crabs.

I have always liked Tebow.

He's going to hell.

Neither poll option fits for me but I like him. Don't like Denver... but I like him.

I like Tebow, just not as a QB.

The CHiefs will be in the next open air Super Bowl

lol at all these bundle of stickss with tebowners after he gets a playoff win, The build up for a guy like this kills him whenever he loses because they think he's teh shit... just like Tebow from a couple weeks ago...

He just comes off as annoying to men.

Tebow won this game for the Broncos. Kyle Orton would never heave those bombs. He doesn't have the armstrength.

Where Tebow messes up are all the throws within 20 yards, where he has to... you know... read coverage. If you give Tebow time, he WILL sling the ball down the field, and many of them will get completed, since he's got the WRs and the strength to let them run under it.

But the rest of the year? No. In spite of.

Since the regular season is the majority of time we're talking here, I'll go with Option 2.

I like him because he causes gofraud to rape small animals out of rage.

I didn't ask if you liked him.

Is he a great QB in the making or not?

I say because of and bright. This is the same Broncos team that was 1-4 under Orton (minus Lloyd whom Orton had). Like or hate him the team believed in him and that led to some wins. His biggest flaw is mechanics which can be fixed, especially with his work ethic. He needs to get traded from Denver to anyone outside of the AFC West.

I wish his mom had aborted him, instead.

Do you set the Gochiefs' footage to rap music

The Broncos success this season is in part becasue of Tebow; he has N0 future as a QB.

Though I hope those who make the decisions in Denver see it differently.


For the record, I like Tebow the person, but not the QB.

Season success? In spite of.

Tonight's success? Because of.

Future? He'll be one of the most inconsistent QB's in the history of the game. Sort of like "Good Rex, Bad Rex" but with more determination and leadership.

We shouldn't be asking most chiefs fans about the quarterback position. Now, if this were a poll about offensive lineman or tight ends, that would be a different story.

I've liked him since he came into the NFL, not because he just got a playoff win. I don't confuse that with him being a great QB most of the time but he looked damn good on a lot of passes today.

It's actually possible to like a guy even if you don't like the team he plays for and it's actually possible to separate greatness as a player from being a good dude. Being a Chiefs fan has nothing to do with anything... for me at least.

Before today, I think it was due to a mediocre schedule, and even then, they were barely beating teams.... I don't think they were winning because of him, but it seems like he did quite a bit today though.

He's not pretty, and won't ever win a shoot out, but he makes plays when he has to. He's growing on me.

I don't know, he has a long way to go. I don't doubt him.

It has to be one those two options and there is no middle ground.

He played his ass off tonight but he can still go **** himself.

Somewhere in the middle

Thing is, you also play totally different defensively if it's not Tebow back there. You don't worry abou the QB as a run threat and so you play straight up D, rush the passer, and double Thomas if needed. Pittsburgh was so intent on stopping the run and keeping Tebow in the pocket that their secondary got schooled. You play that type of D against any QB and you get picked apart. Credit Tebow for taking advantage today. Dick LeBeau got schooled as badly as Ike Taylor...

So why was Tebow successful today? Is it because he is an up and coming star or is it because the Broncos have a decent running game and the Steelers decided to over commit to the run and had a crappy secondary? Do people really think that he can heave it up against any team and have his receivers run under it?

This. Exactly this.

He is not as good as the Tebow lovers claim but he isn't as shitty as the Tebow haters say.

He has progressed to mediocre and had some very well thrown long balls today but he still misses on quick 10 yard slants on a consistent basis. Still too inconsistent to keep winning, IMO.

We are doomed...

Cassel checks down on that first play of overtime.

One thing I've believed about Tebow since before his draft was that his best asset was his deep ball accuracy. He's always known how to improvise, but his deep ball has ALWAYS been there.

He's a Cylon. /Ron Moore

Because he is so good... Beating a GIMP'd up team playing at Mile High... Makes him so good...

I like the guy and think he is a good role model. I just hate the teams he plays for and I think he nothing more than a below average QB.

Demaryius Thomas is the real hero.

This was a pretty huge fluke.

The more he wins for the bundle of sticks donkies the more I am going to hate his bundle of sticks Jack A$$.

Let's be honest here, yes Thomas was outstanding today, but this time Tebow really did make some accurate throws and good decisions with the ball. I can't believe Pittsburgh didn't force more pressure on him though. Just let him sit back all day and throw basically.

Tebow has been a horrible QB to date. The question is and everybody knew from before him getting drafted is his mechanics, slow reading the defenses. His strength was running and leadership in college.

He was a reach as a # 1 pick. Can Elway or some QB coach change all of this? Yet to be seen, I doubt it, but if they ever can change it, he has the possibility to be a pain in the butt for years with his size and arm strength.

I'll tell you why I don't think Tebow will ever be a successful QB.

His game is about emotion.

I think the best quarterbacks are cold, robotic players. Guys like Montana and Manning that kill your defense with a dead look in their eyes.

Crazy wild-eyed intensity is for defensive players and flava clowns, not elite QBs.

Accurate throws and good decisions yield better than 10/21 completion percentage.

The problem was that the Steelers secondary let the Broncos receivers run free in the deep secondary. He heaved it up there and the Broncos receivers ran under it. Most teams will elect to give up a few more rushing yards than to leave the deep part of the field uncovered.

The Broncos are a lot like the Chiefs. Give them a franchise QB and they would be a threat to win it all.

The Broncos success this season is fun because of Tebow; he has an enigmatic future as a QB.

Its worth mentioning that Pitt has the number 1 pass defense in the league.

But it's safe to say that they don't have the number one pass defense in the playoffs.

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Cassel is not on NFL Network and ESPN 23 hours a day.

I noticed that the group that I was watching the game with often gasped audibly when Tebow let the ball go and we couldn't yet see his target in the picture. There just seems to be a constant wondering in all our minds: "Oh, holy shit. I wonder if any Broncos are there."

I think the team success of the Broncos can definitely be attributed at least partially to Tim Tebow's presence. There is something to be said for having confidence in sports and these guys truly believe in their QB and their ability to win on any given day. That's what Tebow is doing for them.

Does he have a bright future as a QB in this league? I wouldn't say that...not with the way he throws, but he might be able to hold a starting job for a while provided he limits his mistakes and turnovers.

For this game in particular his completion percentage had a lot to do with the amount of times he threw deep. Had he checked down at all or used a hot receiver his percentage would've looked better.

I've been extremely critical of Tebow and have poked fun at his 46% countless times this season, but today's game was different.

He actually played well this time. It wasn't the defense saving his ass or him having a fluke 4th Q where the defense went into prevent. He made good reads, and did a solid job throwing today.

Denver does a great job using max protection to give him time to throw as well. The offensive system is certainly tailored to make him look good.

Just the opposite. By my count, he was 6/11 on deep passes and 4/10 on short passes. He is just ineffective in making the routine throws that are the bread and butter of most QBs.

A Tim Tebow-led team wins a playoff game...and we're here going on 19 years of absolutely nothing.

I ****ing hate football.

Thomas (the hero of our OT playoff win today) was our first pick in that draft. If you mean he was a reach as a first round pick, then yes, that's true. He went towards the bottom of the first round because McDaniels thought that at least one team was targeting him at the top of the second.

But one of Josh McDaniels' weaknesses as a Head Coach was that he locked on to specific players and went after them. He went after Tebow and Moreno because he wanted them, and he reached for both. Moreno never has had a strong impact on this team and he's heading into "bust" territory simply because he was reached for.

Tebow on the other hand...I think you'd have to be an idiot to think he can't get any better at this point. He started three games last year. He became the starter halfway through the fifth game this year. That's it. That's his NFL experience. He gets more credit than he deserves for the wins, and he gets more blame than he deserves for the losses. That comes with being the QB. No big deal. He can handle it, and we haven't seen anything yet.

Ike Taylor got off the plane in Denver and told himself he was going to have far and away his worst game as a professional football player. He achieved that, and then some.

Thanks for the next week of listening to all the Tebow bullshit, Ike. You prick.

It was actually the saftey's fault for creeping down, but whatever.

On the last play, correct. But the rest of the game is on Ike.

Tebow is better than cassel. We can hate because he is a Bronco, but it was him that threw those TD's. He may not be drop back passer right now, but wait he will get better. I just hope we have our QB by then and a better D then the Broncos to be competitive.

I'd argue that we already do.

Got to hand it to Fox, for playing with the cards he was dealt. ClevelandBronco's post is most accurate: Tebow is an enigma. The way the inside option was run, is an indicator. He is a FB that can heave the ball.

What is so sad about this is they have a fullback that is better at qb then cassel is at qb.

how about a third alternative:

in part due to

a future as an average starter or good backup.

All I know is, yesterday had to be his best game of the season, if not his entire pro career. He looked pretty sharp, and seemed to catch the Steelers asleep on D alot. He made plays with his arm AND with his legs. Shit, dude was everything I'd want in a QB in a playoff game. Just like all season, he's better under pressure and there's no more pressure than a home playoff game against a team who had a better record than yours did. Backing into the playoffs, it seemed a no brainer that the Donks would be one and done.

Tebow looked really solid, and at this point I'm never betting against the kid again. You'd be a fool to do that.

God hates the Chiefs by the way. That's the only explanation I can think of.

10/21

looked sharp! LMAO

Tebow is certainly frustrating... and a lot of it is the play calling.

I was ready for a snow storm to knock out my FiOS yesterday when the 2nd quarter started, then... they started actually calling plays. They started being aggressive.

It's great to watch Tebow play when he's scrambling around... sure, not a lot of pretty passes, but he had a number of them yesterday. Losing Decker is going to sting for next week, but anything from here on out is gravy.

Denver advanced (ugly or not) and they won their home playoff game, and played well in doing it... I'm happy. There's a lot to focus on with that team in the offseason, it's far from being where they need it to be. I'm happy for guys like Bailey.

For 316 yards and 2 TD's. And when you consider there were at least 3 drops, balls that totally should have been caught...then yeah, I'd say he looked pretty sharp.

I'd also say that the Steelers D look awfully dull. Like they didn't prepare for the possibility that Tebow could throw. That's just stupid on their part. They deserved to lose.

he throws the ball beyond 7 yards... a step closer to greatness than our QB

more playoff wins than Tony G... my god this is depressing

Why does this poll pigeon hole you into saying "Yes, Tebow is why the Broncos are doing what they're doing this year AND he has a bright future as a QB?"

The two are not necessarily tied together.

Exactly.

I think Tebow's ceiling as a QB is pretty low actually.

But he just refuses to lose and that attitude is infectious. They wouldn't be where they are right now without him.

But they won't get much farther than where they are right now WITH him.

I think Tebow brings confidence and good leadership, but I don't think it's going to last a long time.

They will lose to the Pats next game, and then they may have a decent year next season.

I don't think Tebow will improve in his passing game and it will eventually force Elway to get someone else.

Yeah, it's hard to disagree with that statement... gotta love his work effort and desire to improve. If they can upgrade at TE, pass catching RB... maybe his production will be more "well received and accepted" by the fans. I dunno.

I do know this... guys like Ryan with all that talent around them are out again, after failing miserably in the playoffs... again. They have everything you appear to want in your QB... but, maybe it boils down to that internal "IT" that Tebow appears to have more than most.

I dunno.

Its tough to choose one of the two, its a little like Trent Dilfer and the Ravens when they won the superbowl. The Ravens started winning when they put him in at QB. Not saying the doncs are going to win it all, but they put in Tebow, he has not lit the world up, but does just enough for them to win, and does not typicly do things to cause them to lose. He does bring something to that team though.

The Steelers played 9 guys in the box alot yesterday and left thier corners one on one a bunch of times with no help. Unfortunately for them, they don't have 2 corners like the Chiefs do. Instead of throwing into tight windows, he had recievers with huge seperation and NFL easy throws. I give him credit for hitting those recievers in stride, but Pitt took away the run and blew coverages leading to a "big day" (for him) passing. I'm sorry, but if a QB can't hit that throw to Thomas in OT, they don't belong anywhere near an NFL team.

This

I've heard ESPN commentary saying "Look how the Chiefs played them. blah, blah, blah."

Not once did I hear one of them say "Most teams can't play that style of defense because they don't have the personnel the the Chiefs to do pull off such a scheme."

Just a little recognition for how good Carr & Flowers are would have been nice.

Heh, watching Ike Taylor and company brought back memories of Bartee and Warfield. Pittsburgh tried to replicate and got caught with thier pants down.

MAYBE?!?!?!

The QB position is more about that "IT" factor than anything else.

Ya I'm loving our corners. There is only a handful of receivers in the league I wouldn't trust them playing man. Calvin Johnson comes to mind.

LMAO Somebody love me

Let it be known that I F***ing despise the Broncos and Tebow just as much... BUT I fear for the AFC West that with a long off season and "Horse Face" working with Jesus that it may make him a LEGIT force for the Donks for the foreseeable future. I may be WAY OFF on this but the kid keeps coming back when everyone thinks he is done.

He's like Lazarus of Bethany

Worst QB eva!