Seriously,if the Chiefs...
 

somehow someway land Peyton Manning I will be done as a fan until his tenure is over.I can't really explain it except to say my dislike for him and his family runs very deep and there is no way I could ever cheer for or back him.

Anyone else have similar feelings or would you be all for seeing him in a KC uniform?

His regular season success, though, does not mean that the future Hall of Famer should be absolved from criticism for his team’s repeated failures in January.

He has racked up seven one-and-done postseason exits—the most of any quarterback in NFL history. Overall, he owns a 9-10 record in 11 playoff appearances, whereas Eli is an incredible 9-3 with two Super Bowl MVP awards.

No.

No matter the hate, I think it would be too much fun watching him running the show.

No. That just sounds reeruned.
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I also do not carry a banner for him but.. Peyton to Bowe TD KANNSSAS CITY!!! sure sounds fun.

That said I'm leaning against it.

Joe montana was long in the tooth not injured goods.

He done. First hit and he is out on a stretcher.

Peyton or Cassel.........


That's an easy decision.

Don't share your feelings.

If we landed Peyton I personally would feel apathetic about it. If he does well and win some playoff games, great. But my enthusiasm would be tempered by the fact that we still will have not drafted and developed a QB of our own. Until we learn to do this our team will not be able to be perennial contenders.

So if he took us to the superbowl you wouldnt watch, or would watch and root against the Chiefs? BS

I dont think the guy plays another snap, Im not too worried.

If Manning came here and won a Super Bowl and then retired, I'm all for it.

It's all about the trophy.

Because ultimately the need to draft and develop our own QB is about winning the Super Bowl, not about drafting and developing our own QB.

There have been many more despicable, low-life, criminal types who have played for the Chiefs. Refusing to cheer for them because of Peyton Manning would be, IMO, highly hypocritical and pathetic.

Agreed. Putting aside the whole "Is Peyton done?" question this would just be history repeating itself over and over regarding this franchise and developing our own QB.

Yes, this.

I absoluletly hate retread quarterbacks. I just love Chiefs football and hope we change the tune of how they go about aquiring and developing QBs. It may take another 10 years before they figure out that repeting the same thing isn't going get us a Super Bowl any sooner so why not pick one in the draft and go for it.

TOUCHDOWN KANSAS CITY! The Gunslinging Giraffe draws first blood. /Holtus

You're on your own there Nzoner.

We just want a championship. And IF Peyton Manning somehow still has say 2 years left of elite QB play in him, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

I think he go to the Jets Jets Jetssssss & they can have him. "Snap" will be heard around the league. The sound of neck breaking.

How is that you dislike him so much....but have no explanation for it?

Would you feel the same way if Eli Manning was our QB?

And when he fails to deliver us such championship, who will be the next retread over the hills QB we get?

I agree. If the only thing this franchise is willing to do is pick up old ass QBs rather than drafting their own, it might as well be a HOFer. However, Richardson might get him paralyzed...

If Manning came here we're automatically in the AFC championship game at minimum. We have tooooo much talent in it's prime that's being wasted because our Quarterback sucks. I'm ALL in for him.

A healthy Manning would be awesome imo

He's a shitbag, wont own up to his mistakes instead throws his teammates under the buss whenever possible. I cant stand either Manning, feel free to lump his douche father in there too.

Well bye.

Seriously I dont love Manning but I'd take him over Cassel every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

That's our starting QB.

yes I hate him as well.

If he's healthy and able to play, how in the world could it possibly be a bad thing. He would instantly elevate the offense to a level higher than it's probably ever been, including the Saunders years. Even if that only lasts for two years, or for four, it's worth it. And it does not have to preclude developing his eventual replacement.

Not that there's any real possibility of it occurring, meaning either Manning or developing in-house.

Has a super bowl winning quarterback that left for another team ever win the super bowl on the 2nd team?

More worried about Cassel starting on opening day, but... um. Hm.

Closest QB I can think of is Kurt Warner winning with the Rams and taking the Cards to a Super Bowl.

But in the "modern" era (aka since the Super Bowl has been played) I cannot think of one.

Call bullshit all you want the last focking thing I ever have to want to hear from any other teams fans is,"finally got your Superbowl win but it took Peyton Manning to get it."

NO THANKS.

Absolutely

:thumb:

Also add refusing to play for the team that drafted you,fine go flip burgers at Mickey D's then.

This.

I respect your opinion dude but really? Isn't the idea to win the Super Bowl? We're so picky as fans after 40+ years that we now would rather just not win if the players aren't the ones we like? That's just silly imo.

That's really what you're worried about? **** 'em, we'd have won a Super Bowl.
Don't give a shit if it's the entire Packers lineup in red uniforms and an arrowhead on the side of their helmets. The Kansas City Chiefs will have won a Super Bowl.

Hmmm, let's see the guy single-handedly led them to 7 consecutive 12+ win seasons and 10 wins in 11 of 12 seasons. So, with that said if he is healthy and you could get 3 years out of the guy you are seriously saying pass??! Idiotic.

Thats how I felt if we were going to trade for Cassel. But damn it I'm still here.

Really and it may be stupid to think this but every time I get in a discussion with a bronco fan about their winning Superbowls I always add yeah but you didn't get shit until Smith and Traylor got there. :D


Yes,I know Davis was a huge reason but it feels so good being able to say the above.

Ding.

I would cheer for the Godess in your avatar playing QB for the Chiefs as she would probably be just as good as Cassel and far more fun to look at. Especially running from the blitz in instant replay slow motion.

BTW, if and when we do go to the SB, it will be because we finally got a QB who didn't like to go into the fetal position at the first sign of pressure.

I actually like and respect Peyton. The guy became a great quarterback.

Eli is a whiner and Archie is a whiner, but Peyton showed up to the team that drafted him, and he made that team a perennial contender. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of the never-called illegal procedure penalties that he was allowed, but in the big picture he was/is a great football player and I'd take a swan song in KC while he trains the next generation.

Eli and Archie, rot in hell.

I am all for P.M.

Even if he's 80% healthy.

O rly? If you can get a QB like Peyton, you don't need to develop a QB. You still draft a flier in the 3rd round or something and have him learn to be ready but Peyton Manning makes this team a Super Bowl contender, IMMEDIATELY.

WHAT?!?!?

If somebody said that to me, my response would be "We won the Super Bowl. Piss off."

Hell in a wheelchair hes > Cassel

no. all i care about is winning a championship.

I'd trade the whole draft for a few years and probably a few rings with Manning. ESPECIALLY if they fire the Colts HC and we hired him to be our OC.

Yes because other teams fans can really talk smack on a SB winner.

Your reply? Scoreboard. Look up at it.

And who gives an F what someone else thinks. It'd be a SB.

The entire REASON we hate retread QBs is because we want to win a Super Bowl. We don't want to draft and develop our own QB just for the sake of drafting and developing our own QB.

Keep your eye on the prize!

Yeah, but what if there was some weird football Frankenstein that was able to put Peyton's brain and arm on Cassel? Then would you cheer for him?

Did I miss something? Was there a Manning to KC report?

With all due respect, **** all of that.

As long as were not cheating, I don't care what it takes for our team to have a SuperBowl run.

Peyton? Sure, if healthy.

Tom Brady? Why not?

We havent won a playoff game for almost 20 years.

How often do you think a team lets a SuperBowl winning QB get away? Favre, Montana, Hostetler, Dilfer, Rypien, Johnson, McMahon and Warner? Any others come to mind? Heh. I guess 8 is a lot of Quarterbacks who went on to different teams, especially considering the last 30 years.

Thank you for saying contender and I agree no doubt but some of these responses are treating Manning like he's a Bradshaw or Brady.He has 1 ring and played his career home games in a dome.I can't remember every play-off game but as I recall Manning was not all that when playing outside in the elements when ALL was on the line.

+Rep

/end of thread

Nothing new I'm aware of. You've seen the old rumors though right? Just people throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks.

Well, you know that drafting a QB is a magic bean that always turns into championships.

The retread talk is kind of funny in a way, it's like Manning is Bono or Grbac or something, and not one of the best QBs in the game for the last decade plus. This would be kind of like Montana again, you know, the one guy actually able to overcome Martyocrity and probably not coincidentally the last QB to win a playoff game here. Although all due credit should be given to Trent Green for his January 2004 performance. By no means should that punt-free game be put on his head.

The idea is to get a franchise quarterback capable of winning in January. What is Manning if he's not that? Who cares if you draft him or not. This ain't Cassel part 27 we're talking about here. Or some 49ers (or patriots) backup we're elevating.

Of course, it's also not reality we're talking about here.

if colts trade him its because hes done .. if that happens he prolly cant pass a physical ......

I'm just going to blame my whole train of thought on this issue to the cold medication I'm taking :)

Alas,I have to hit the streets and make some sales though,good day all.

To address the OP:

I don't understand why you'd stop watching the Chiefs if Peyton was our QB.

It would literally be the most exciting time we've had since Montana.

Better than watching Cassel overthrow 8-yard slants for another year.

I'd buy a jersey!

I can't understand your logic here Nzoner. Peyton Manning would be the best thing that happened to the chiefs in 40 years.

Funny, I feel the same way about Cassel.

This would seriously alter the bash.

I'd watch every minute of every game. I try to catch as much Rodgers, Brady, Brees, etc; as I can... and to have it in my backyard, guaranteed to be on TV every week?

Are you freakin' kidding me?

I wouldn't give a rat's ass if they said that. SB Champion Kansas City Chiefs sounds really, really nice.

If that happened..

If..


Well bye??

No matter how much you hate him, he could be the best QB that has ever played the game and he makes us an instant SB contender, if not favorite. Keep you feelings to yourself.

Or it might be because they are in a position to draft the next great QB and they could still get a lot out of Manning while essentially drafting him all over again.

It's never going to happen so I don't know why anyone even dreams about it.

If it happened the Chiefs could win a SuperBowl so I don't see what the problem would be. It's not like Peyton Manning has ever done anything wrong. I would feverishly masterbate if it happened. The only question is his health but it's worth the risk because the team would be strong enough to win big with him. In a few years your start over and develop a QB but this team can win now. I would personally rather trade up for Luck or Griffin at all costs.

People have a hard time accepting the fact that players get old and quickly become shells of their former selves.

That was my point.

The ONLY reason I wouldn't JIMP to get Peyton Manning is because I think this front office wouldn't ALSO draft a stud rookie as our QBOTF. If the nerve in Manning's arm has rehabed properly, I would kill to have him for a couple years while we put something together long term.

Are you talking about RB's or QB's? The greatest WR of all time played well into his 40's, the greatest QB probably could too if he wanted and still be a lot more productive than we've possibly ever had.

This, to me, is the big caveat. IF he's healthy and back to his old self, I am all for signing him. But that's a big IF at this point.

We are not going win a ****ing Super Bowl until all "true fans" concede to the notion that a retread QB is never going to win us a ****ing Super Bowl.


A draft pick QB can give us a 10 year window of opportunity to go to the big show.

A retread gives us two years window of opportunity to suck in the playoffs & fail to win anything beyond a divisional title.

80% of Peyton Manning would be better than 300% of Matt Cassel.

This assuming he can ever actually play again.

And you need to get past the notion that all the people saying this wouldn't necessarily be bad are True Fans who wouldn't also be in favor of drafting a QB.

That is a great name for him.