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Mr_Tomahawk 02-29-2012 09:22 AM

Predict who will be released next by Oakland.
 
What a crummy organization. :)

Who will will be released next...?


Ross Tucker ‏ @RossTuckerNFL
Ever been a team in worse off-season shape than Raiders? $25M over cap after cutting Routt & just 5th/6th Rd picks.

Bane 02-29-2012 09:23 AM

Al Davis.Oh wait.....

threebag 02-29-2012 09:24 AM

They will still beat denver

KurtCobain 02-29-2012 09:24 AM

Carson "Oh My Knee!" Palmer

Pasta Little Brioni 02-29-2012 09:24 AM

Mwahaha. Must be sick for Reighters to watch his team be so bad at handling finances. :hmmm: Maybe they should bring him in for a look to handle the cap.

Direckshun 02-29-2012 09:27 AM

The Raiders trying to get under the cap.

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TRR 02-29-2012 09:27 AM

Just an awful knee-jerk reaction on the Palmer trade. I have no idea how people could look at that deal and say that was the best move to do.
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BoneKrusher 02-29-2012 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8407097)
Just an awful knee-jerk reaction on the Palmer trade. I have no idea how people could look at that deal and say that was the best move to do.
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that trade was stoopid.

stonedstooge 02-29-2012 09:32 AM

At least they tried to win. Chiefs had to have 4 major position injuries before they even decided to sign one replacement in Orton. I know getting Palmer hurt them, but they thought they had a legitimate run at the playoffs

Fat Elvis 02-29-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8407101)
that trade was stoopid.

Not if you're the Browns....

Okie_Apparition 02-29-2012 09:35 AM

That big tall special teams dude would be nice

Mr_Tomahawk 02-29-2012 09:36 AM

Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter
As @ProFootballTalk alluded, Raiders are currently $20,344,178 over 2012 salary cap if cap stays flat….some major trimming to do.

Okie_Apparition 02-29-2012 09:38 AM

Rot in a turkish prison Schefter
You Shanahan loving sons a bitch

Skyy God 02-29-2012 09:39 AM

Welcome to free agency, Michael Bush.

RealSNR 02-29-2012 09:42 AM

What do you think Dave Ramsey would have to say to the Raiders, R8ers?

Dr. Johnny Fever 02-29-2012 09:44 AM

Richard Seymour.

I have no idea I'm just picking a name.

Marcellus 02-29-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8407112)
At least they tried to win. Chiefs had to have 4 major position injuries before they even decided to sign one replacement in Orton. I know getting Palmer hurt them, but they thought they had a legitimate run at the playoffs

This is definitely in the running for dumbest post of 2012 so far.

They traded 2 high picks in a draft they already spent 2 picks on for QB's and set the franchise back for years getting yet another crappy QB.

But hey, at least they tried to do something right.

You do realize KC was also in the running for the playoff until the end? Damn, too bad we didn't blow the whole draft on Palmer and at least try to do something.

Pioli would have been burned at the stake for that move and you give them credit for trying?

Holy shit the stupid in your post is epic.

Marcellus 02-29-2012 09:52 AM

What would be awesome would be if they cut Palmer. LMAO

BoneKrusher 02-29-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. noonanbeermefever (Post 8407151)
Richard Seymour.

I have no idea I'm just picking a name.

i'm gonna say the entire Offense

InChiefsHeaven 02-29-2012 09:55 AM

Man, it's nice to know there is another team that is dumber and way more screwed up than ours. I can always depend on the Raydurs for that at least...

jwazzie 02-29-2012 09:58 AM

Seymour would be the starting point. Also, what FA in there right mind would ever consider going to Oakland...ever. The stadium is crap, the franchise is in disarray, and the coaching staff is different every year. This reminds me when the 49ers were in cap trouble in the late 90's/early 2000's and they had to play a couple of years with no names and washed up players. It will take a while to get back to respectability if at all. Good Luck Raiders!

RealSNR 02-29-2012 10:17 AM

Wimbley, Seymour, Bush.

Hell, I'll take them all.

RealSNR 02-29-2012 10:17 AM

Realistically I think John Henderson gets the ax, though. And Bush. Possibly Wimbley.

ILChief 02-29-2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8407239)
Wimbley, Seymour, Bush.

Hell, I'll take them all.

Haha seymour bush

Pasta Little Brioni 02-29-2012 10:20 AM

The Autumn fart is a Reighter....

Boy, good thing they have a bunch of draft picks to help lessen the bl...oh wait.

Sofa King 02-29-2012 10:20 AM

The "cap" guy will be the next to be cut.

The Franchise 02-29-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8407239)
Wimbley, Seymour, Bush.

Hell, I'll take them all.

This.

Wimbley would be some awesome depth at OLB and a Bush/Charles backfield would make me JIMP.

KurtCobain 02-29-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 8407250)
Haha seymour bush

Holy shit that's awesome.

mcaj22 02-29-2012 11:32 AM

I'd take anyone they cut

Seymour
Bush
Huff
Wimbley

even maybe Aaron Curry

actually no Curry sucks. But the others, come on down

crossbow 02-29-2012 11:41 AM

If we are going to be a run first team then I want their fullback. Dude can block anybody and time.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 11:43 AM

Oh boy here we go again... ... You boys just sit back and continue to rub one out to your Matt Cassel poster on your bedroom wall... I actually like what the Raiders have been doing and this team should have done this years ago... I hope you pick up all of our scholarship players we release.

Okie_Apparition 02-29-2012 11:47 AM

We can actually get Matt Cassel to come to our rooms
TEAM

RealSNR 02-29-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407537)
Oh boy here we go again... ... You boys just sit back and continue to rub one out to your Matt Cassel poster on your bedroom wall... I actually like what the Raiders have been doing and this team should have done this years ago... I hope you pick up all of our scholarship players we release.

I'm gonna ask again.

What do you think Dave Ramsey would have to say about the way your team is run?

In58men 02-29-2012 12:32 PM

Bush or Huff

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8407615)
I'm gonna ask again.

What do you think Dave Ramsey would have to say about the way your team is run?

He would probably say that you should quit ridiculing a man that has had success to deflect from your financial failures, not really sure though to be honest as I don't listen to his show because it it boring and repetitive... Kinda like you are

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8407665)
Bush or Huff

I think Bush will be gone but this is not any new news..

the Talking Can 02-29-2012 12:58 PM

I'm still laughing about the Palmer trade....what an epic ****ing fleecing


done by a coach that got his ass fired weeks later

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8407751)
I'm still laughing about the Palmer trade....what an epic ****ing fleecing


done by a coach that got his ass fired weeks later

You won't be laughing when he gets a full off season and training camp under his belt..


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Dave Lane 02-29-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8407288)
This.

Wimbley would be some awesome depth at OLB and a Bush/Charles backfield would make me JIMP.

I agree, RB is our biggest need right now and yet no one is talking about it. Another ACL from Battle the feature back STFU

Agent V 02-29-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407763)
You won't be laughing when he gets a full off season and training camp under his belt..


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Good luck improving the team around him when you're 20+ million over the cap.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:11 PM

Carson Palmer 2,753 yards in half a season and that's about 1000 more than your starting QB had for the whole season. He even had a better completion ratio than your starter and he didn't even know the playbook.

Carson Palmer is long in the tooth and will not be a viable option for the next 10 years in the NFL but if we get 3 good years out of him I will be happy...

Now I surely wouldn't be lobbing no QB bombs if the two best QB's my team had were KY and Cassel fighting it out for the top spot...

Enjoy your spot in AFC West hell, you gonna be there a while

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 8407787)
Good luck improving the team around him when you're 20+ million over the cap.


Whats worse? 20 million over the cap or 60 million under but they won't spend any of it?

Pasta Little Brioni 02-29-2012 01:12 PM

Orton played slightly better or as well as a Chief than Palmer a Faider.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8407805)
Orton played slightly better or as well as a Chief than Palmer a Faider.

Both of your QB's together had only a few hundred yards more than Palmer and Palmer was on the couch for the first 8 weeks LMAO

Sofa King 02-29-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407763)
You won't be laughing when he gets a full off season and training camp under his belt..


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LMAO

Nice highlights from his 3 INT scoreless 2nd half against KC. LMAO LMAO

Sofa King 02-29-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407804)
Whats worse? 20 million over the cap or 60 million under but they won't spend any of it?

20 Million over. Especially when you have nothing to show for it.

Try not to be this stupid.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8407814)
LMAO

Nice highlights from his 3 INT scoreless 2nd half against KC. LMAO LMAO

Damn right, yall really showed them Raiders... Man had been on the team for 5 days and knew 15 plays and thats all you all have to hang your hat on? Pretty damn funny actually.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8407818)
20 Million over. Especially when you have nothing to show for it.

Try not to be this stupid.

You don't have anything to show for your 60 million over either because the trailer park dwellers fill the stands every week regardless... Enjoy AFCW Hell LMAO

LOCOChief 02-29-2012 01:19 PM

Dennis Allen.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-29-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407825)
You don't have anything to show for your 60 million over either because the trailer park dwellers fill the stands every week regardless... Enjoy AFCW Hell LMAO

A team full of young inexpensive players is going to be much cheaper than a team of overpaid retreads.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:22 PM

Every year is the same for you guys, You get a couple of scrubs added to your team , win a few games, the trailer parks get excited and then every year you fail, always lose in the playoffs, (even at home).

You folks are the proudest losers I have ever seen in my life, I love to watch the dagger stabbed in your little red and yellow hearts each year.

You could be good but they will never spend the money in KC to be nothing more than competitive.

InChiefsHeaven 02-29-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407825)
You don't have anything to show for your 60 million over either because the trailer park dwellers fill the stands every week regardless... Enjoy AFCW Hell LMAO

It's not 60 million, it's closer to 38 million due to bonuses and shit not figured in to the total yet.

I'd rather be in our position than yours. Cahson Palmah won't have much of a team to work with next year after they cut everyone just to get under the cap.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8407834)
A team full of young inexpensive players is going to be much cheaper than a team of overpaid retreads.

Hows that theory worked out for you? When was the last time you won a playoff game? yall do the same shit every year and every year you have the same result...

RealSNR 02-29-2012 01:23 PM

Honestly, the Raiders are currently stuck in purgatory. Their team as they've built it can't get over the hump. They're also unable to draft and unable to sign anyone. They should gut the team and start over fresh with this new GM.

They won't do that, of course, so we can expect another few seasons of futility before they begin to be competitive.

Of course, that's what we said 5 years ago too LMAO

Marcellus 02-29-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407825)
You don't have anything to show for your 60 million over either because the trailer park dwellers fill the stands every week regardless... Enjoy AFCW Hell LMAO

Try to spin it all you want, you damn well know you would rather be in KC's situation than the complete and total disaster you have on your hands right now.

Oakland is arguably in the worst shape in the NFL from a talent, draft pick, and salary cap situation. What do you have going for you? A first time head coach?

Its awesome. Pure awesome.

Sofa King 02-29-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407819)
Damn right, yall really showed them Raiders... Man had been on the team for 5 days and knew 15 plays and thats all you all have to hang your hat on? Pretty damn funny actually.

I'm not the one who posted a highlight video with those plays in it. You are. Which means you must consider those highlights.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 8407843)
It's not 60 million, it's closer to 38 million due to bonuses and shit not figured in to the total yet.

I'd rather be in our position than yours. Cahson Palmah won't have much of a team to work with next year after they cut everyone just to get under the cap.

I wouldn't want to be a fan of a team that didn't invest in it...

You guys are suckers... They put you guys a piss poor product on the field every year and you guys are on it like a fat kid on a doughnut.

Sofa King 02-29-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407825)
You don't have anything to show for your 60 million over either because the trailer park dwellers fill the stands every week regardless... Enjoy AFCW Hell LMAO

60 million under, with under being the key word. Only shitty franchises allow themselves to be in the position the Raiders are in.. And we just won the division 2 years ago when we were 30 million under.

At least you have to release your young players because of the cap. Too bad these old ass veterans you keep pumping money into won't be around when you rebuild through the draft.

Wait a second, you don't have any draft picks. Nevermind. Nothing to see here.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8407852)
I'm not the one who posted a highlight video with those plays in it. You are. Which means you must consider those highlights.

SK I Know you guys are hurting and grasping at any little thing that will make you feel good about a team that thinks a QB like Matt Cassell and Kyle Orton are quality NFL QB's. I hope they continue to do it this way forever because it never works and it gives me more ammo every year that goes by.

40 years and you are STILL light years away from even competing in a SB much less winning one.

RealSNR 02-29-2012 01:29 PM

It's funny. I know a Washington Redskins fan, and he's completely honest about their trainwreck of a franchise. He knows that their Super Bowls from the 80s don't mean jack shit right now in terms of getting out of this hole they're in, and that some big changes are going to have to be made. He's honest with himself and acknowledges that it will be tough. He's not optimistic for the near future at all, and that's even with the Redskins having some money and a complete set of draft picks and a chance to draft a franchise QB.

You talk to a Raiders fan, whose team is in a far worse situation, and he goes Baghdad Bob on your ass.

Maybe funny isn't the right word. Depressing is more like it.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOCOChief (Post 8407830)
Dennis Allen.

What's this suppose to mean...


I will Play......Romeo

I like Romeo but Haley was a far better coach than Romeo

RealSNR 02-29-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407856)
I wouldn't want to be a fan of a team that didn't invest in it...

You guys are suckers... They put you guys a piss poor product on the field every year and you guys are on it like a fat kid on a doughnut.

You'd rather have the team that CAN'T BUILD SHIT THIS YEAR?

Let me repeat. You have 5th and 6th round draft picks, rookie free agency, and THAT'S IT. No more. You have no other options.

Tell me how your team is "investing" when they can't possibly ****ing get better.

Sofa King 02-29-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8407864)
It's funny. I know a Washington Redskins fan, and he's completely honest about their trainwreck of a franchise. He knows that their Super Bowls from the 80s don't mean jack shit right now in terms of getting out of this hole they're in, and that some big changes are going to have to be made. He's honest with himself and acknowledges that it will be tough. He's not optimistic for the near future at all, and that's even with the Redskins having some money and a complete set of draft picks and a chance to draft a franchise QB.

You talk to a Raiders fan, whose team is in a far worse situation, and he goes Baghdad Bob on your ass.

Maybe funny isn't the right word. Depressing is more like it.

Raiders fan's only defense is to come at you with all kinds of dumbass remarks that are a hell of a lot more true about their own franchise than the one's they're trying to make fun of.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8407848)
Try to spin it all you want, you damn well know you would rather be in KC's situation than the complete and total disaster you have on your hands right now.

Oakland is arguably in the worst shape in the NFL from a talent, draft pick, and salary cap situation. What do you have going for you? A first time head coach?

Its awesome. Pure awesome.

No way in hell I would rather be in your position ... Every year the topic is the Raiders are over the cap and every year they make it through it just fine...

You guys enjoy Stanford, I am sure Carson is licking his chops already

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8407869)
You'd rather have the team that CAN'T BUILD SHIT THIS YEAR?

Let me repeat. You have 5th and 6th round draft picks, rookie free agency, and THAT'S IT. No more. You have no other options.

Tell me how your team is "investing" when they can't possibly ****ing get better.

You just sit back and watch the Magic happen... You will be pissed again soon with your mouth dropped open wondering how in the hell soon...

Worry about that basement dwelling abortion you call a team and let the men handle this...

Chiefs Pantalones 02-29-2012 01:38 PM

I thought they would try and trade McFadden but Knapp said he's the perfect fit for their offense.

I'm not sure how they're gonna get under.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-29-2012 01:38 PM

Trade for Aaron Curry and Palmer. Go well over the cap in the process. BRILLIANT/Reighters

Sofa King 02-29-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407878)
You just sit back and watch the Magic happen... You will be pissed again soon with your mouth dropped open wondering how in the hell soon...

Worry about that basement dwelling abortion you call a team and let the men handle this...

LMAO

It's no mystery how Oakland gets back under the cap every year.

They simply cut or restructure the contacts of the extremely shitty players they way overpaid for.

It's not some great mystery other franchises are trying to figure out. It's the joke of the league.

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8407903)
LMAO

It's no mystery how Oakland gets back under the cap every year.

They simply cut or restructure the contacts of the extremely shitty players they way overpaid for.

It's not some great mystery other franchises are trying to figure out. It's the joke of the league.

They already have 13 former first round picks on the team, How many are on the Chiefs and how is that working out for you?

Yeap I agree about the restructuring shitty players, but that appears to be over, Psssst.. Routt :)

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 01:51 PM

Not in football mode now, I am in NCAA mode, we will talk about this later

Brock 02-29-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407928)
Not in football mode now, I am in NCAA mode, we will talk about this later

ROFL

Sofa King 02-29-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8407933)
ROFL

And he conceded.

I made R8ers my bitch!

R8RFAN 02-29-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8407950)
And he conceded.

I made R8ers my bitch!

Yea, you had me on the run... I figured I better leave the thread... You are my Bastard I guess if I am your Bitch :thumb:

Brock 02-29-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8407950)
And he conceded.

I made R8ers my bitch!

He can't pay attention to two things at once, how unsurprising.

Sofa King 02-29-2012 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8407966)
He can't pay attention to two things at once, how unsurprising.

They never learn, Brock. They never learn.

Otter 02-29-2012 02:07 PM

This is like watching two old, beat to hell hookers fight over whose track marks are uglier.

Nice video, didn't watch all of it but I'm guessing by the audio orcs come marching over the mountain at the end?

InChiefsHeaven 03-01-2012 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8407980)
This is like watching two old, beat to hell hookers fight over whose track marks are uglier.

Nice video, didn't watch all of it but I'm guessing by the audio orcs come marching over the mountain at the end?

Actually that's from the movie "The Good The Bad and the Ugly" not Lord of the Rings...but you are correct that their fanbase is a bunch of Orcs...

jspchief 03-01-2012 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8407921)
They already have 13 former first round picks on the team...

This has to be the most comical display of stupidity out of all the stupid things reighters says.

I ****ing literally laugh aloud everytime he goes to this argument.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-01-2012 09:22 AM

Get ready for it...









http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...pionship-team/

Carson Palmer: We’re close to a championship team

We haven’t heard much from Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer after the Raiders shook up their front office and coaching staff, but he broke his silence in a radio interview on Wednesday.

Palmer, who came to Oakland in a trade engineered by former head coach Hue Jackson, said that he was “happy” to return to the Raiders. That should quiet any whispers that Palmer isn’t happy about the change to Dennis Allen and the overall shift in direction Oakland has taken this offseason. Palmer said he’s looking forward to the season and also looking forward to the chance to validate the hefty price the Raiders paid to acquire him.

Palmer won’t have a chance to work with Allen until April, but he doesn’t think the change in coaches will have a negative impact on the team. Quite the opposite, actually.

“As far as being close to a playoff team, it’s more than that,” Palmer said, via Steve Corkran of the Bay Area News Group. “We’re close to a championship team. There’s a lot of work that needs to be put in and a lot of hurdles that we need to get over, but we need to be heading into this season thinking more than just playoffs.”

The only rub could be the work the Raiders have to do to get under the cap by March 13th. While the outlook isn’t as gloomy as it might appear on the surface, the fact remains that the team likely won’t have a lot of money to spend to bolster the roster. They are also short on draft picks which means that they’ll need better performances from holdovers like Palmer if they are going to make their first playoff trip since 2002.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-01-2012 09:43 AM

Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva Close
Per NFL Net's @JasonLaCanfora, the #Raiders will release Kamerion Wimbley if he does not restructure his contract


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