Cap numbers are out-Chiefs: $32.5 million under.
 

Bengals: $49.9 million under.

Broncos: $44.7 million under.

Buccaneers: $42.7 million under.

Jaguars: $40.6 million under.

Chiefs: $32.5 million under.

Redskins: $31.1 million under.

Bills: $30.8 million under.

Seahawks: $29.8 million under.

Titans: $28.1 million under.

Bears: $22.6 million under.

49ers: $21.8 million under.

Browns: $17.4 million under.

Patriots: $16.2 million under.

Chargers: $14.9 million under.

Ravens: $14.45 million under.

Dolphins: $11.8 million under.

Colts: $11.6 million under.

Steelers: $10.5 million under.

Eagles: $9.6 million under.

Vikings: $7.9 million under.

Jets: $7.1 million under.

Falcons: $5.8 million under.

Packers: $5.4 million under.

Saints: $5.2 million under.

Cowboys: $4.7 million under.

Rams: $1.2 million under.

Giants: $3.8 million over.

Texans: $4.7 million over.

Panthers: $5.3 million over.

Raiders: $7.4 million over.

Lions: $11.5 million over.

Cardinals: $16.4 million over.


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The cap space figures we posted are based on the base cap of $120.6 plus any carryover, adjustments, franchise tenders, RFA tenders.

So how are the Cards in the Manning hunt?

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Just talked to a reliable source in KC -- the Chiefs aren't out of it either. Productive meetings between KC and Peyton's people.
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Look at all that money Clark won't spend. It's a shame we couldn't fit Carr under the cap. What a joke.

****ing Denver.

It's getting serious folks.

Seriously, though. That's a shit load of cap space.

not trying to be an ass, but who the fudge is dougfarrar?

The Arizona Republic reports the Cardinals will release LT Levi Brown if the sides can't agree to a new deal before Brown's $6 million roster bonus is due on Monday.All signs have been pointing toward Brown hitting the open market, and a breakthrough in talks with the Cardinals does not appear to be on the horizon. Releasing Brown would clear roughly $14.5 million in cap space. Although he struggled mightily in 2011, Brown could find a nice payday in a thin market for tackles. Mar 11 - 8:57 AM

Giants: $3.8 million over.

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Cool 32 mil and we'll sign guys like Louis Castillo and some Patriots castoffs.

A tablespoon of Giants superbowl ring will help the medicine go down

DO THESE ****ING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO ME RIGHT NOW?!?!

That still works against him because Manning isn't going to want to go some place with no offensive line. We should sign Brown at RT.

Says they haven't talked to Peyton. Just Peyton's people.

Are these figures "official"?

Good point. Hey Peyton, we'll slash our LT to clear the cap space to bring you in so you can get killed on the first play of your second career.

That, I believe was a mistranslation. The original quote was, "We want to talk through Peyton's peep hole."

FAX

The Bengals could make some noise with all that money. They seem to have a young QB who is developing pretty quickly. It'll be interesting to see how they turn out this year.

Joey Porter counts for another 5 million for Arizona.

8+ for Adrian Wilson.

Fwiw, Id give some good coin to Wilson if he was interested in coming to the Kansas City Piolis.

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He is starting to get older, dude can ball though, I would be for it.

BRING BACK PEYTONPLANET!

Damn that guy still plays?

not dead yet!!!!!

Pisoli will be on the radio tomorrow telling us how there are other things to consider and the number is actually much lower than this. Other teams talk about winning. Chiefs talk about money they supposedly don't have

Well considering:
Chiefs: $32.5 million under.

is much, much lower than 63 million under....I don't see why he wouldn't make that comment.

Okie Apparition: I want them to work out a deal with Osi. He has one year remaining on his contract. hate to hear him whine again this summer. Osi was a big part in helping the defense get back on track.


Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen has done a better job of managing the cap than putting a team together.

I remain skeptical about two quarterbacks selected in the top five are both future franchise quarterbacks. One yes - but two?

The dude from the tweet is a Yahoo sports guy. We're still in this.

Osi seems to be a likely candidate to get shipped the **** out of town if the Giants can get a decent offer on him. That will stop his endless whining and the Giants will be fine since Tuck and JPP are on the roster.

They are about due to start injecting youth in certain areas, so the extra picks would help them a lot.

how the hell do the broncs have more salary cap space than us?!?

Interesting so that is 32 million under after Bowe's tender.

I don't think Levi Brown will be willing to move to RT unless we want to still pay him like a left tackle.

Well ****, QUICK!!! Someone start a new thread!!!!

Yea, i would think so ... and Routt.

and our new cb

Thanks for your opinion, BryanBusby -- you're right.



One thing I know for sure -- The Giants will be drafting more defensive ends in this year's draft. :D

"You can't have too many defensive ends..." /Giants organization :D

Cool so there should be no money excuses this year.

Orton was released.

There hasn't been any money excuses for years.

You know that extra 100 million dollars the Hunts announced they were paying towards the end of the remodel? They've gotten every dollar of that back already at like 30-40 million per year IN ADDITION to there normal profit. They raked in the millions because of the lockout stuff.

Who is this guy?

dunno ... who is the spano guy?

The Giants have became one of those teams that just chill and draft BPA, so they could definitely draft a DE.

If they decide to go for more of a fill needs thing, they will be looking at offensive line. They need to get a better option at Right Tackle, and David Baas is just subpar so center wouldn't hurt either.

Right Tackle for sure though, as a duo of McKenzie/Andrews basically amounts to a dumpster fire. They could also take a look at RB since I'm not convinced that Bradshaw can handle the load as a feature back.

I agree and yeah I heard that theory is why they haven't spent the last 2-3 years. It makes sense and makes them look cheap.

This team can afford any of the top tier FA's this year so unless the team is a cluster**** we should see some big time players come here.

Orton was a free agent.

They've been dumping contracts for a while.

I've said this before, but I'm really surprised the Bucs aren't in on Manning. I know they have Freeman and all, but it's a new regime... they play in Florida, tough division for sure, but they've got money to blow.

Broncos: $44.7 million under.
Chiefs: $32.5 million under.
Seahawks: $29.8 million under.
Titans: $28.1 million under.
49ers: $21.8 million under.
Dolphins: $11.8 million under.
Texans: $4.7 million over.
Cardinals: $16.4 million over

You are forgetting one MAJOR fact. This is the last year the Chiefs can be cheap and save money. Next year they are required to spend.

Let's see, 32.5, carry the 1...that's ah, 16 Ike Ndukwe's. /Pioli

How much is cassel costing us this year?

He probably spoke to Nick Athan.
Move along, people.

Dignity, respect, the division, and any shot at a championship.

This quote does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling about free agent signings for KC. It says, we are going to go out and find free agents that are cheap and other teams might not consider.

only 32 mill?


Clark is going to have to cancel his Fox Soccer Plus subscription

And when it gets leaked that we pursued some high-profile guys that went elsewhere, they've already go their built-in excuse.

"How much we get done isn’t just up to us."

'productive talks' means that Condons assistant didnt immediately hang up on them.

'c'mon man, Toms there and you know it, i heard him in the background...'

I wish someone like Cuban would buy us and keep us in KC of course. I want an owner that is serious about winning a Super Bowl. Please just sell the team Clark. Maybe we can get a Bob Kraft situation where a STH ends up buying us and go from there.

Question - how'd you fellas manage that?

We're !@#$ing skinflints in KC and somehow the Broncos have a full 1/3 more cap space than we do? Do you not have anyone like McGahee or maybe a couple of linemen that need to be re-signed?

How the hell can Denver be sitting on that much money? The Chiefs, for all they are not (i.e. 'successful') have at least done a good job of being frugal. There's next to no wasted money on our cap, except for the insane cap figures of Jackson and Dorsey. Is it that simple? Does Denver just not have 2 superfluous lineman taking up $25 million in cap space and that's how they're able to blow everyone away here?

Tyson Jackson strikes again...

i believe it's around 5 million

Matt Cassel is a complete waste of cap money.

Not anymore. At $5 million, the dude has somehow become something of a bargain.

It almost has to be Jackson and Dorsey. Lord that's a lot of money to throw at 5-techs...

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/18...breakdown.html

Hali - 14.5 mil
Jax - 10.7 mil
Dorsey - 8.2 mil
Flowers - 8.0 mil
Cassel - 7.5 mil

19 Mil between TJ and Dorsey makes me want to puke.

hmmm ... cassel is 5.2 base and another 2.5 million in bonus

i wonder what the bonus is?

they are the last of the high dollar, high draft pick money

that has changed

Doesn't it, though?

No more 5-tech's in the first 5 picks, m'kay? Can we stop doing that now?

And the hell of it is that those contracts are going to form the baseline for their 2nd deals. The only way we bring either of them back without having to work from those deals is to let them go in FA and negotiation in an open market. When they realize that they're rookie deals were insanely inflated, they may come to the table with a reasonable offer.

We should trade Dorsey, trade back in the draft and select Brockers or Poe ~20.

I'm surprised they can't get Dorsey to restructure. I couldn't see him pulling anywhere near 8 mil a year on the free market.

I believe it's the pro-rated portion of a roster bonus...

Sure, and I can understand taking Dorsey knowing that you might have a 4-3 stud DT on your hands, but with TJ and Pioli likely knowing they had Dorsey at the other 5 Tech on the hook for a big contract.... :facepalm:

He'll have to learn that when he hits the market.

If you're Dorsey and you know they aren't going to cut you outright, why would you re-structure? Play out your deal, test the market and then if you can't do better, come back to the Chiefs.

If I'm the agent of most of high pick rookies that signed under the old system, I hold firm on that contract as my starting point and then I test the market. Some team will be dumb enough to bite.

Some team is always dumb enough to bite.