The Mythical Ricky Stanzi
 

Why? Why is this guy held in such high regard around here? I remember him leading exactly *ONE* touchdown drive of note last preseason, and really don't remember him sticking in my memory as a guy that I'd love to have on my team coming out of college.

Are we so starved for a quarterback, ANY quarterback, that we bring up through the ranks to finally break through and be THE GUY that we would put this seemingly average and nondescript player up on a pedestal? I mean, seriously, he couldn't even beat out Tyler Palko for the backup gig. Tyler. Freaking. Palko. It makes me wish I were more of a Hawkeye fan just so I could buy into the "hype" surrounding him. I haven't seen this much hopefull wishing since Casey Printers and Ted White didn't make the team.

So, sell me on this phenom named Stanzi. I dare you.

I do remember him from the bowl game against Mizzou, a little. If memory serves, Iowa won that game more on Gabbert's boneheaded interceptions than anything Stanzi was able to pull off.

He seems to a competitor and leader.

Hoping he improves with this full offseason and makes some things happen.

IIRC he was playing with the scrubs and STILL looked better than our POS starter running with the 1st string guys.

I cant sell you on him.

If he plays better than Cassel and Quinn he should start.

Pioli would sooner bite off his own clit before starting someone in lieu of his beloved Matt.

Apparently he was told before the season that he would not play this season regardless of the situation. Hence, Palko before Stanzi.

Mallett did not suit up for a game this year either.

EDIT: He suited up for one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Mallett

Mallett made his preseason debut in the Patriots' first preseason game, a 47–12 rout of the Jacksonville Jaguars on August 11. He played the entire second half, completing 12 of 19 passes for 164 yards, one touchdown, and no interceptions. The Patriots scored touchdowns on each of the first four drives Mallett led, and ran out the clock on his fifth and final drive. Mallett struggled in his next preseason games throwing an interception run for a touchdown in his second game. At his fourth preseason game against the Giants he was 6 for 16 for 57 yards. Mallett spent 2011 as the Patriots' third-string QB, behind Tom Brady and Brian Hoyer;[22] Mallett was inactive for 15 out of 16 regular season games in 2011 and was inactive for every post season game.

Seriously? Do you live under a rock?

Palko was a pawn used by our late coach, whose name I refuse to say, as a finger in the face of the "Management." Palko didn't beat anybody, and was only used because he sucked. This goes to show, even moreso, that Stanzi was kept on the bench, because he was more of a gamer then Palko, since the late coach didn't want to even be in the games... on purpose.

So enough with using Palko was a topic for anything. Stanzi hasn't had his shot yet... when he does, let us judge him then, not on what he did in college or while riding the pine last season.

Wasn't he playing against scrubs?

Really? Are we to assume that was another Haley decision?

Tom Brady couldnt beat Drew Henson.

Great white hope like Brian Shay, Marc Boerigter, and Boomer Grigsby.

It's hope in the face of hopelessness.

No. I live in a world where Ricky Stanzi couldn't get on the field before Tyler Freaking Palko could.

So now I'm to believe that Stanzi is this secret weapon used against Pioli by Haley, just for what? Spite? This fifth rounder has so much potential that Haley decided to use Stanzi as the sword to kamikaze his head coaching career? I'm to believe that?

Maybe Pioli looks at stats. Stanzi's were better than Brady's in college.

FTR I didn't think he was worth his draft spot and I'm a hawkeye fan. And that's QB'ing for a team that is the stepchild of the big 10. My biggest complaint was accuracy and ability to make the long throw.

But he is smart and a student of the game.

I'm not sure. There was a thread or post on it about a month ago.

At least Boerigter has an NFL record that can never be beaten. Heh.

Because he is from Iowa.

If he was a 5th round pick from an east/west coast school...everyone would be referring to him as a career back-up.

Because the back up QB is the sexiest guy on any team with a less than desirable starter. Stanzi hasn't ****ed anything up yet to fade the color on the rose colored glasses so he's the anti Cassel simply for that alone.

He needs playing time to see if he can work out. We know damn well Cassel isn't the ancer so why not a draft pick for a change? That's all I've ever wanted as a Chief fan to watch a young QB we drafted and go with it. Watch him learn and grow with the team. Albeit I'd wish it would be a first rounder that comes with hype to get excited but a fifth rounder who doesn't have that pressure on him may just may turn out to be something special. We don't know but should be fun to watch.

I have no feelings either way towards Iowa. I have never even been to the state of Iowa

Did he? I recall him playing pretty shitty.

I am not down on him though.

Couldn't get on the field by who? First thing that Romeo did was BENCH Palko and he never was an option again. Haley REFUSED to start Stanzi... it had nothing to do with using him as a sword to his own death, but simply that he knew he was done, and took down the Chiefs with him, by starting the worst possible QB we had for 4 GAMES?! Please. Let's not be naive either.

I have no idea if Stanzi is a secret weapon... but I know he is better then Palko. And he couldn't be worse then Cassel either.

Maybe it was an organizational decision to sit stanzi for the year regardless. Stanzi is still on the team and Palko isn't so he did "beat him out"

Stanzi got like 4 series the entire preseason.

You could? I have a few theories but mostly think that Stanzi wasn't given much of a chance do to the lock out and short TC. They didn't have OTAs last year and Haley new Palko from AZ so was going give him that dibs on it. The biggest thing going into last years regular season is the fourth game of preseason. They did every thing they could do to prime or get Cassel ready for the regular season by playing him in all four quarters against Green Bay. They wanted Cassel to succeed more than anything and had Palko have a few drives in that game as the backup. No team has played there starting QB in all four quarters in any preseason game like that before. Rediculas but that's what the Chiefs did and neglected opportunity to see what Stanzi could do.

Stanzi was put on the back wash for the season and Haley didn't care. Then they brought in Orton who screwed Stanzi shot at playing time even more. Had they not brought in Orton Stanzi would have finished the year with the departure of Haley as HC.

Nicely done. A truer point was never written.

And even by saying this, you still have zero idea if Stanzi is worth all the hype. And saying he couldn't be worse than what we have doesn't count, it just makes you sound like a Stanzi relative.

I hope the kid comes out and plays lights out, but I have no reason to believe it is going to happen. That's all I'm saying here.

Palko was the worst NFL QB I had ever seen in two straight Training Camps. I had seen NAIA QB's that had better arms and looked all-around better than Palko. He was Haley's puppet and played that part until Haley was no more. I bet you good money if we had Stanzi in those ball games we would have made the playoffs. He couldn't have done any worse than Palko did. I mean we didn't even put up a fighting chance offensively with Palko in.

Has anyone said "because he was drafted and not Cassell" yet?

Stanzi is a prospect. Nothing more, nothing less.

Had he played last year he would have failed and not because of his own doing. Our oline and running backs sucked. So we didn't put out prospect out on the field to get killed. I'm fine with that.

Well that's kinda like saying, the Colts have zero idea if Luck will be worth the hype. Again... seriously? No QB is as bad as Palko was. After 2 games, Stanzi should have been given some playing time to find this out.

I, for one, am glad he didn't, and hope he had a little more time so he can mature and become the next Joe Montana. :)

He sure well could have played the last game of the season and not got himself killed. Orton with one td whoop!

He is better then cassel by a huge margin is all I got. Quinn also, those two should battle it out. Don't want limp dick arm throwing passes for the chiefs any longer.

Cassell = proven fail
Quinn = proven fail

I have to believe in Stanzi, he's our only hope.

Dude he did beat palko out.You were told what haley wanted us to believe. Haley was doing anything he could to tank the season. Example the steelers game stanzi was trying to share his input he was wanting to go in mind you this was after palko melted down. Haley just looked at stanzi all stone faced would not even saying a word and walked away. When it was very clear that game stanzi was the better option. Also any normal coach who were doing things right would of played him more in the preseason. Yes Haley was the sole reason we lost the division. As much as it pains me to say it was not cassel.

Cassel has 55 career starts. The verdict is in.

Quinn has 12 career starts. Jury is still out.

Proven? 12 starts is proven?

Because he's probably the greatest QB to ever play the game, and our stupid front office keeps him on the bench, because they don't want him to show up Cassel. Nevermind that they drafted him. If this team had Stanzi, Greene, McNutt, Gallery at LT, Kaeding at K and Bob Sanders on the IR, this team would quite honestly be better than the 2007 Patriots.

FYP

Cause he is a Real American, fights for the rights of every man. He is a Real American fights for what's right, fights for his life...

I'd take all of them but who knows what Stanzi is gonna do in the NFL. Stop being a jerk, jerkface.

I'm in the minority but I think Pioli is just really strict when it comes to playing certain rookies. We have had quite a few rookies come in who could of been a day 1 starter, but we're played sparingly

Neg rep for getting that damned song stuck in my head.

Nice to meet you, Mr. Ferentz.

Oh, and lets not forget that he didn't have much of an off season to get up to speed.

Admit it - you grew up in Iowa City, didn't you?

True.

You can apply this thinking to ALL of our QB's this year. Hopefully with a full offseason with Zorn and Daboll, one of these turds can rise above the other.

He actually beat Palko, but Haley had a boner for Palko for some reason

That whole Pittsburgh thing, I guess.

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Probably because all others QB's on the roster suck ass.

this makes sense to me.

Nah, can't stand Iowa (Idiots Out Walking Around)...

I just like the kid and think he has what it takes when given the chance.

Stanzi is a better QB than Palko, but in terms of pure performance he really didn't do better than Palko last year in preseason really. Stanzi completed just above 50% of his passes.

Exactly what I was saying. I haven't seen anything to get me excited about the possiblity of this kid coming in and taking over.

That being said, none of us have seen much of him since he's been in the pros.

There have been thousands of threads on this. And you've probably read all the arguments. You're just not convinced, that's all.

Here are my own takes on why Stanzi should start (especially now that we didn't draft anybody)

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=257176

I'd also just like to emphasize that you really need to watch his snaps during the preseason if you don't know what's special about the guy.

He came in behind Cassel and Palko late in the game when we were down to our 3rd string offensive line, backs, and receivers. I can't say enough bad things about that offensive line, other than I'm shocked that any of those pukes even got considered to play in the NFL as undrafted free agents. Those assholes I saw playing were about as unprepared and untalented as NAIA-level squad guys. COMPLETELY pathetic protection in front of Stanzi.

What did Stanzi show? Yeah, took a couple sacks, but he EXTENDED PLAYS. Who was the last Chiefs QB to extend plays? Thigpen, but he had the benefit of the pistol spread. Trent Green had a QB clock and a pocket presence that allowed him to narrowly avoid sacks and step up and throw like a pro, second probably only to Brett Favre at that time in the NFL (2002-2005). Stanzi got hit, clobbered, and massacred on nearly every drop back, but didn't quit. Made the first and second guy miss at least half the time, and usually got a fairly good pass off considering the circumstances most of the time.

It will be really entertaining to see him possibly work with our starting offensive line in some game this year. I'll betcha anything he'll shine more than Cassel ever has.

And neg rep for you too, tk. Even worse, that youtube vid wouldn't pause. It just kept playing, damn your ears.

He works hard and he has a better arm than Cassel or Palko. Of course, Curtis Painter probably has a better arm than Cassel too.

Cam Newton completed 42% of his preseason passes. Is Stanzi better than him.

Statistically, yes. Palko and Stanzi are the same QB. And their statistics are both better than Cassel's from this preseason.

In the eye test, the two QBs aren't even comparable. Stanzi is far superior.

Stanzi actually has qb skills. At this point he isn't having to work on his mechanics like our starter, who has to consistently be told how to play the position.



IMO, by the time a guy gets to the NFL, these things should be a given. Some tweeking here and there, yeah probably so.


But the basics of playing quarterback should be mastered. There is too much other shit going on at such a high speed during the game that drops, arm angle, vision etc shouldn't have to be worried about.

Question for Bowser:

We didn't draft Tannehill, and we didn't draft everybody's boyfriend Brock Osweiler. Sorry, but his boyish smile and adorable curly locks won't be gracing your television screens this fall for the red and gold.

The free agents are gone. Drew Brees likely is going to stay in New Orleans. Sorry to say, but our three QBs next year are Cassel, Quinn, and Stanzi.

Which guy gives you the greatest hope, no matter how irrational it may seem to you, to bring success to the Chiefs this year?

And if you say Cassel I shall say rude things to you.

Yup, proven fail. 52.1% completions with 5.4 ypa. 3-9 in those 12 starts. Hasn't taken a snap in a game since 2009.

Cassel.

I have no doubt that Stanzi is the hand picked future qb of this franchise. He met all the criteria and Scott is playing this one, damn near exactly the way it was played in NE.


IMO, i'd rather throw the guy in the fire this year and see what happens, but it won't be the case.

HAHA, in your face!

As it stands right this second, I'd have to say Quinn. He is definitely still a work in progress, but looks to have way more upside than Cassel, and Stanzi is a complete unkown.

It's evident to me from our draft Pioli is putting an OL in place to find his next real QB. I'm good with that.

I'm no Pestilence, but Quinn has been completely screwed over in his NFL career thus far. Just as it looked as if his career was about to take off, Romeo gets fired from the Cleveland gig, and Quinn was relegated back to second string duty. Then came the circus of Tebow with the Broncos.

Honestly, he may be facing the same shit here.

Quite possible.

I honestly can't say I've seen a lot of "hype" on here for Stanzi other than from BossChief mostly its just people sick of watching Mark Castle shit his pants and preferring anything to another wasted start on him.

Ricky Stanzi is calm, cool, collect. In college he looked more NFL ready then anyone else on the field. Occasional floaters but nothing to get excited about. Potential is high... and yes... The Palko move was a Haley move... Did you even watch those games with Palko starting? Did you see Haley at all? He was causing problems on the side-line and calling dumb calls... He was fine being fired cause he knew he was going to get a job somewhere else. He knew Pioli hated him so he wanted to stick it to Pioli. Pioli's and Haley's personalities are way two different things which was bad news.

Only more fail by you

You are a fat, stupid, silly-ninny poo-poo head who drinks his own urine to unwind. You also have all the grace and charm of an intoxicated Hitler.

Do not tempt me a second time.

Why do you think Quinn couldn't beat out Tim Tebow? Do you think he was actually the third best QB on that roster behind Orton and Tim Terrific?

Again, I go back to Ryan Mallett. He only dressed out 1 game. He never took a snap. And I am basing Stanzi off of being told early he would not play his rookie season.

It makes it hard to be patient when you see Newton and Dalton have success, and Ponder, Gabbert, Locker, and even Yates get quality playing time. But I still think when the dust settles on this QB class that Mallett and Stanzi will have a chance to be ranked at the top of the class. And neither of them saw the playing field their first year.

Mythical, you say?

http://i46.tinypic.com/9fxsg0.jpg

Poppycock, most of his starts were after Romeo was fired. Both seasons he started games, he ended up on IR. IMO his linebacker build is an impediment. He created his own chances, and was equally swift in snuffing them out. Once Romeo was fired, he couldn't beat out Derek Anderson, who after his one good season was historically bad. He got another chance when Derek stunk it up in the 3rd game. Quinn was Mangini's guy from that point, but didn't prove himself. With Mangini coming back the next year, Quinn was traded for a little known fullback and a late round pick.

Not at all. Tebow has this unfathomable fan love that drove the Broncos to play him once they hit the eject button on Orton. The guy is a gamer to be sure, but a better QB than Quinn? Not a chance.

And even saying that, Tebow has won a playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. The NFL is bizarro world sometimes.

I've always been realistic about the expectations of a 5th round pick.

But what really strikes me is that when you look at his scouting report, it's actually really hard to find any kind of fatal flaw. He's above average on pretty much everything you want out of a QB. Not elite on any one thing, but very good at most things.

So I don't know. I know he's a big long shot, but I've been scratching my head for a while figuring out why he fell as low as he did.