Stanzi: Every 2011 Preseason Snap
 

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Since these videos are starting to be buried in the "Mythical Ricky Stanzi" thread, I figured I would them in their own thread in case anyone who wants to see them, missed them.

Battle even looks slow against scrubs

Awesome.

This is nice. And Matt Cassel sucks.

I like his nimble Joe Montana feet more than anything.

Overall he makes some good throws and has better pocket presence than Cassel.
He also missed some easy throws don't know if that was because of pressure or mechanics.

Running for his life against tampa every snap...

This settles it. KC's backup QB of the future!

I'd much rather watch this than the 29 yr old shitbag.

God our offensive line was just ****ing horrid

seen some great offensive line play. lets promote them all to first string also

You were watching the third string for the first two games.

In the third game, they left the second string in for the entire second half.

Coincidentally, it actually looked like Stanzi knew what he was doing in that game.

LOL

He's a magic man!

A few of them I noted were pressure. Even one that I thought at first wasn't, then I saw a Baltimore player coming hot on his blind side unblocked, Ricky saw him and bailed.

Ricky doesn't usually give up on plays too easily, but coming free on the blindside, forget it...

What is it you see that makes you scream backup QB?

That was cool, thanks for posting.

It's shocking how little time he has in that first game. Line was terrible.

He just looks like a rookie, lots of passes off target or behind the receiver.

To his credit there was just one tipped ball INT and one other that should have been intercepted. Seemed to have some erratic footwork at times.

Hard to judge him there with so little protection.

Loved the comment, "Barry Richardson was not flagged on this play..."

nice Rico

thanks.
rep

I'm not going to post a "I DEMAND AN APOLOGY NAO" thread, but I was ridiculed all year when I mentioned the abortion of a 3rd string offensive line Stanzi had to play behind in those preseason games. I was told I was making excuses for the kid, and that they were going up against 3rd string defensive line, so everything was a wash.

Well now you see, folks. Behold him! Ricky the Excused, King of Quarterbacks!

Please, please give him a chance. Anything other then Cassel would be better, even if he sucks.

So does Rex Ryan

BADUM CHA

RicoSwaff, did you post these up on Youtube? I'd really been hoping they'd surface, even checked every now and again, never found them though.

THANK YOU! Now I know what I saw wasn't just my imagination!

yeah, he's way better than Cassel. thanks for making those videos or showing them

Was mad he didn't get to play in the fourth and final preseason game against the Packers. He should of got the chance to play, but no we had to watch Cassel and Palko the entire time and they both sucked. All season I wanted to see Stanzi play and he never freaking got too. I think he could of done better than Orton in the last three games. Who knows? But at least he would have something to build up for this year with and got experience out of it.

Seeing those videos makes me ****ing pissed that we have to sit through a whole year of Cassel before we'll even get to sniff Stanzi's toenails.

Man in that first game our OLine is horrible. In the second game Stanzi couldn't hit the guys and when he did they dropped them. Third game showed some flashes at best.

I could never understand the fascination with Battle.

first, let me say I like the pick, the stanzi pick. he's worth a fifth for sure because he could become a decent backup in the NFL if not a starter.

I like Stanzi as a player, he has moxy. he does a lot of things to win games. he's a smart player from what I can tell, doesn't take big chances, though he does make more mistakes with the ball than a successful NFL QB would make. he's got a lot of learning to do. but, there are two things that strike me when I watch him play; his head stays pointed downfield even when he's dropping back -- he's not a swivelhead and the other thing is his release is clean and quick. but he moves his eyes, not his head and that's good for football. it's smart.

I can't stand matt cassel, I doubt I'll even watch the team this season because I just cannot stand matt cassel as a football player. but, stanzi is not a guy I would expect to be ready, not yet. I would look to him for next season or even one more year. he's just like cassel when it comes to locking on a player and he has not got good zip on the ball. he needs to get stronger.

I know some of you think his arm is fine, it is, probably. but I would not say he is above average arm strength. look at the very first pass on those videos -- he under throws Baldwin by a mile along the sideline. he has enough arm to play in the NFL, but he is a noodle arm QB like Green, Dilfer etc. but like I said in the other thread, he's young and so were those other players at one time and they did develop into decent QB's. stanzi can get stronger. What ****ing moron would have ever said Dilfer would win a championship and look good doing it? I dunno, maybe he's on this ****ing board now. I dunno, but that's football.

Hudson is the center on every snap in those videos as well...in case anyone wants to get a glimpse of the possible future there.

If you're saying Stanzi has a TG arm, then sign me up. I know we as Chiefs fans are starved for a real QB, shit any QB not named Hat Hassel, but Stanzi appears to have "it" to me. If Matt is .....well Matt.... this year, then I want them to go ahead and bypass the Medicine Woman and play Stanzi.

ya, he does have the it factor for sure. he's a smooth dude.

Did you watch the videos at all? I saw a guy who was running for his life frequently but honestly I don't think he looked better that palko except on a few throws in the 3rd game.

Part of it was the horrible play of the line but he missed a lot of open receivers. Did not look good at all. Flashed a bit in the 3rd game.

Of course he struggled but didn't get the reps like he should have from the offseason and TC. He didn't get to play in the last preseason game nore did he get to play with the ones. He never got a good opportunity to show what he has. So hope this year he can make a sollid performance and impress the coaches enough when he gets the opportunities. The problem with Stanzi is we didn't get to see enough of him to make a good assessment and just going on barely what we got from three preseason games. It's up in the air with the kid, I think he can do just fine but want to see it on the field for confidence builder.

I don't know about "a lot". He had off-target throws, for sure. He also threaded the needle on a few downfield throws, demonstrating timing and poise better than any Chiefs QB we've had since, well, Trent Green.

When a rookie QB has had the shortened offseason Stanzi had without even the benefit of his own copy of the playbook, and training camp was one massive session of lifting weights and playing grabass, Ricky looks pretty ****ing good out there while running for his life.

Again, we're not saying that no QB in the history of the NFL could have done better than Stanzi under those circumstances. We're saying it's pretty dumb to look at his performance and not be somewhat excited about what he could do in this league someday.

The sheer fact that he didn't even get a ****ing playbook till training camp and showed anything in preseason is impressive.

If nothing else, he displayed

Quick release
Accuracy
Strong arm
Poise
Moxie
Touch

From a raw perspective, that's a nice little tally.

No prob dude!

I didn't post them. I ended up finding them by googling "Stanzi" and did advanced search to where it only brings stuff up from the past 24 hours That way, message board posts/new material show up and not strictly articles. I like doing this from time to time using google because every once in a while you'll come across some obscure stuff that you won't normally see because on a regular search all the traffic-happy articles are bumped to the top of the search. Anyways, when I googled "Stanzi" yesterday, it turned out that some guy from Arrowhead Pride recently posted those videos. Those vids were listed and SNR's signature came up :) as well as some dudes on some Hawkeye message boards who are debating Stanzi vs. JVB. Ugh....how is Stanzi > JVB even disputable? JVB sucks IMO.

You're right there. It's gonna be a long year for we Hawkeye fans...

Dude every rookie in the league and free agents didn't get a playbook until camp either.

But they didn't all have a dick coach haley that ignored them either. Stanzi just didn't get the opportunities he could have got if one there was time normal preseason agenda and two if we had a coach that gave it to him.

Just watched the first video and god damn your third string line sucked.

Yes because as we all know, lineman on either side of the ball show exactly how good they are in their first few snaps in preseason in a year with no offseason.

I guess you didn't get to glimpse the entire games he played this season when Lija got hurt.

How many of them had a reerun coach that didn't start real practice until about a week after training camp started, and how many of them were only given opportunities to look good being thrown behind a shitty rapefart offensive line in the 3rd and 4th quarters of three preseason games?

Tyler Palko had far more opportunities for success and didn't do much better.

I guess you missed the part of my post where I made no comment good or bad about how Hudson looked...

Don't you mean our third string?

FYP

He'll more than likely have a better career than your boy Osweiler.

Didn't look like anything special to me. Sure, he didn't have a lot of time, but his accuracy still didn't look very good and his arm isn't as good as some people on here claim. He has some zip on the intermediate passes, but that's about it. People will probably crucify me, but he doesnt' look any better than Cassel.

Stanzi was a rookie then and Cassel is 29.

Dumbass.

He showed some inaccuracy but weve all seen cassel miss throws much worse than those.

Please. Let's see what we have in this mythical character.

IIRC the first day of the draft last year was where the players and coaches could have contact. There was a few days window where the courts overruled some things, then it was reversed. Some players like Cam Newton were able to get playbooks in that time frame. Day 2 and day 3 players... no.

Video 1 and 2 he didn't have a chance to do anything before the OL collapsed. He did show some quick feet and athleticism. Video 3, I liked much more. When given some time he can make the throws. He should be given the chance to start. He's already no worse than Cassel is right now. At least he has an upside.

I really liked his quick decisions in the pocket. Makes Cassel look inept.

Stanzi City Chiefs Baby!

If we had a lineman that was among the worst in the league and was directly costing us games, I'd give one of those dudes that shined in preseason - even slightly - a shot. Especially if the starter was out for season and we had nothing to lose.

I guess I'm now converting to a Stanzi blind supporter. We have no other choice.

It's either Stanzi (or Brady I suppose) turn into our long term QB or we have to pull a Washington Redskins type of trade to get a top tier QB.

Could be huge to catch that kind of break.

Thanks! Just got to watch them. :thumb:

First off, there is no doubt in my mind that with the team we have built here around Matt Cassel... that Cassel can lead us to somewhere between 7 to 9... maybe even 10 wins.

The thing is, with the team we have assembled, I also believe that Stanzi could also lead this team to the same 7 to 9 wins... maybe even 10 wins.

We know what Cassels upside is. He has 55 career starts... and he is what he is. A mediocre QB at best.

Who knows if Stanzi will be anything but mediocre either. But you can see in just those few clips that he can bring something to the table that offers hope that he just may have something more than being just an average QB.

And for my money, I would muuch rather watch a 7 to 9 or 10 win season with Stanzi at the helm.

Just watched all 3. Whew that was rough.

Reminded me of just how bad our preseason was. Seemingly not even trying. Just dump offs one after another. Games 1 & 2 didn't look too bright. But 3 was much better.

Hope he pans out. Having said that, I'm not entirely convinced that Brady Quinn doesn't give us just as good of a shot, if not better, to be that future guy. Yes I know we're talking about Brady Quinn here. But keep in mind I'm comparing him to a 2nd year 5th round draft choice.

Brady was a former 1st rounder forced to start his career in Cleveland where all QBs go to die. He's only 27.

I'll be curious to see how they compare this offseason.

Stanzi > casshole

Beat me to it.

Have to disagree Stanzi flashed a bit on maybe 3-4 plays in 3 games he wasn't ready at all then. Palko out played him. That said he has had a year and I hope he gets a shot the preseason to show what he can do. It shouldn't take much to unseat Cassel.

Interesting that at least half of the posts in this thread involve the offensive line. And yet, all I heard prior to the draft was how irrelevant the offensive line is in "today's game." ROFL Anybody who thought that, wrote that or even entertained that idea is as dumb as dirt and should be castrated immediately.

Stanzi may end up being a terrific QB, but who will ever know if he's running for his f'ing life?

Yes, we'd all love to have an Andrew Luck on our roster, but that's not how the real world works. KC's best play right now is to develop what we have at QB, protect the shit out of them, and get the ground game going. With the defense we should have, that should be enough to get us to the playoffs.

Plus arm

Also, I miss Mike Cox :(

It's amazing how people can watch the same thing, and come away with two totally different viewpoints. I saw Stanzi trying to go down the field on multiple occasions... sometimes before the receiver broke open. I saw Stanzi busting his ass to make plays with both his feet and arm. I'd take the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th plays of the game for Stanzi vs Baltimore any day of the week.

This.

These were his first preseason games after having the playbook for what, 2 weeks? People, wtf are you expecting?

His timing is going to be off.

He's going to miss open WR's....especially if he's running for his life.

His anticipation is going to be off.

I mean ****....he's playing with 3rd stringers who he barely freaking met. JFC people.

And to the people who say he has a noodle arm.....seriously? **** off. You don't know what you're talking about. He throws a very catchable ball with good velocity. Stafford he is not, but his arm is more than adequate.

His floor looks like a good back up....his ceiling? Who knows, but he has the tools, and the guy plays like a winner. He's constantly looking downfield and he's not afraid to thread the needle.

He needs reps, reps and more reps.

Completely agree.

Just like Asamoah, Hudson, Houston, Charles and numerous others stepped in and replaced vet starters it's time to look forward at QB.

That's how it works. Your depth/rookies push vets for their jobs and eventually replace them.

It's time to look at what we have behind C@$$#ole...

Stanzi never really had a chance in those games so it's hard to get much out of watching those vids. He did throw a nice TD. This year we'll get to learn alot more. Of course he'll have more time with the playbook(yeah I know it's a new one) and our backup O linemen will be better. He'll probably have a real chance to go through a progression.

What you could see is potential. Now granted, there have been a lot of players over the years who show potential and never make it, but he does show he might have it.

That's exactly what I thought when I read his comment. Not trying?

Haley messed up. He didn't have the team prepared for the preseason. When Cassel got hurt in the 4th game, he panicked. I guarantee Cassel broke some ribs on that hit. That's why Haley didn't give Stanzi any reps in the 4th game. They thought Palko would have to go week 1 and gave him all the snaps the rest of that game. Palko knew the playbook better than Stanzi so Haley went with him despite the obvious differences in physical skill sets.

I guarantee no one in the Chiefs backfield thought #11 was too high to draft a guard.

And I, for one, was disappointed in the Donald Stephenson pick. I wanted an impact contributor in the third round. However, watching these videos made me realize just how important OL depth is. Without it, how are you ever going to evaluate your backup QB in the preseason? And that isn't an insignificant job. Makes me happy to think that the second quarter of the preseason games might not be comprised solely of one yard rushes and sacks.

Stanzi drew comparisons to Brady coming out
Worked with Brady's throwing coach
Changed his number to 12
Rode the bench a year
Has a white boy #83 to throw to

The pieces of the puzzle are coming together

Well, technically he didn't "change" his number to 12, he changed it back to 12. Brodie Croyle already had Stanzi's number when he got to town, so he took 13.

So about 90% of the players drafted and free agents who signed with teams didn't have playbooks.

The point is other rookie QBs who played last season, did.

Stanzi did not.

Can you provide a link to anything where Palko played well?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...stay-of-ruling

QB's with playbooks...

Newton
Locker
Gabbert
Ponder

QB's drafted about an hour before stay granted...

Dalton
Kaepernick

In a society with technology the way it is prior to the stay being granted, I am assuming they were sent a copy of the playbook by some method.


QB's drafted after the stay...

Mallett
Stanzi
Yates


Mallett and Stanzi don't see the field. Mallett dressed for 1 game, Stanzi not many more. Yates playing was pretty flukish.


So do you see where it may have been significant that 10% or so did get a playbook?

Guess I should clarify. I meant not trying in the team & Haley's approach. You remember those. Team wasn't prepared. Hailey didn't care. Basically took the preseason off. Playcalls were about as vanilla as it could get.

In no way did I mean that "not trying" in Stanzi if some took it that way.

Overall based on the improvement that I saw in game #3 of his young career, I saw potential. I'll leave it as that.

Nope. It's grasping at straws.

Ok then.

Was there a rule that prevented one member of a team from copying and giving a playbook to another member?

Its cute.

You trying to take on a Draftabulator persona...