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RealSNR 05-28-2012 02:28 PM

So with Jon Baldwin kicking ass in OTAs...
 
1. **** all the haters last year and this offseason. He's not a diva. You're all divas for having your period thinking he's a diva. Has he proven shit yet? No, but he sounds focused, studied, in shape, and beastly. He's CLEARLY taken the steps to make himself an elite player, exhibiting very un-diva-like behavior. As long as he keeps this up (no reason to expect him not to) I don't see any possible way that he could turn into a bust because he didn't work hard enough, didn't do the right things, or isn't good enough. Basically, the football skills are there. And he's never ****ing had behavioral problems. Go fist a cow, dumbasses. Thomas Jones is a punk ass pillowbitergot who should have gotten his dick ripped off after he pulled that shit last year.

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Haven't seen the thread. Either way, check out this interview:
http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_ho...a?id=144585461

Bunch of player-speak and Patriot way language. But with his fantastic practices and now this, it sounds like the dude flat-out gets it. He understands football, and he understands this team.

2. If Baldwin performs like I think he's capable of performing this next season, we are ****ing stacked at receiver. Nobody knows what the hell is going on with Bowe, but if Murphy's Law goes into effect and Bowe really wants triple digits on his new contract or something, we should show no hesitation to rally behind Baldwin for a season. Baldwin and Breaston isn't the same thing as Bowe and Breaston, but that's still a deadly top-2 WR combination. It's better than the Turds and Chargers in our division, and if Baldwin does what I think he can do, I think those two are better than Thomas and Decker. And I think Decker's a pretty damn good receiver.

But let's think happy thoughts instead. Bowe wants to play in KC. He said that much. It's very likely we'll get the damn contract done. And when we do get the contract done, I think we'll see the Killer Bs (lol getit amirite?) that we thought we were gonna see last year. Hell, I think we'll see a 3-WR combination that's top 5 in the league. No question.

Okie_Apparition 05-28-2012 02:31 PM

This ain't putting prune sherbet in my bowl

Ace Gunner 05-28-2012 02:32 PM

baldwin is going to be a man among boys soon. he'll be the best WR this team has had since otis.

SuperChief 05-28-2012 02:33 PM

I like you.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-28-2012 02:34 PM

Soooo.... What are ya tryin to say, just spit it out.

bevischief 05-28-2012 02:35 PM

With Cassel?

-King- 05-28-2012 02:36 PM

Wait, is his name Jonathan or Jonathon? It's spelled Jonathon on the locker.

Nightfyre 05-28-2012 02:36 PM

Baldwin has Fitz-type upside, physically.

Rausch 05-28-2012 02:37 PM

I definitely think he's got the right attitude.

That said I'm not ready to hand our offense over to him...

BigMeatballDave 05-28-2012 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8643606)
baldwin is going to be a man among boys soon. he'll be the best WR this team has had since otis.

Yeah, can't compare him to Bowe because we all know he sucks...

notorious 05-28-2012 03:02 PM

I still think that Baldwin was drafted to replace Bowe.

okcchief 05-28-2012 03:05 PM

We saw flashes. I'll be interested to see what he can do with OTA's and a full training camp.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-28-2012 03:06 PM

Baldwinning Blackberry Blast

RealSNR 05-28-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8643610)
Soooo.... What are ya tryin to say, just spit it out.

If you want me to be honest, I wanted to create an "I told you so!" thread to the people who think Baldwin sucks. But then I would have gotten nothing but, "IT'S JUST OTAS LOL". So I turned it into this thread.

RealSNR 05-28-2012 03:18 PM

If he plays 16 games, Baldwin's got 1000 yards wrapped up. No question. And that's taking into account the Cassel factor too.

BigMeatballDave 05-28-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8643681)
I still think that Baldwin was drafted to replace Bowe.

If true, that is dumb.

Urc Burry 05-28-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8643615)
Baldwin has Fitz-type upside, physically.

I like the Calvin Johnson-lite comparisons in terms of athletic ability. His body control is what is going to separate him from most receivers

Pasta Little Brioni 05-28-2012 03:22 PM

The amount of weapons and playmakers on this team is absolutely ridiculous.

Oh and the 3 B's are already a better set of recievers than those clowns out in Pile High.

Ace Gunner 05-28-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8643653)
Yeah, can't compare him to Bowe because we all know he sucks...

well, I know that was one of those butthurt comments, but baldwin is a guy with attitude -- winning attitude. bowe, not so much.

baldwin is the kind of wideout that will get his feet under him and then start pushing his QB and team to win and he has the talent to back it up.

BigMeatballDave 05-28-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8643765)
winning attitude. bowe, not so much.

And this is a dumbass comment. Kill yourself.

Easy 6 05-28-2012 03:26 PM

He's displayed enough real flash to warrant plenty of enthusiasm, seemingly saying & doing all of the right things, the sky is the limit if he keeps on this track.

But he does still have much to prove, his rookie production, while being hampered by several scenarios, was no better than a guy like Crabtree's, whom many consider a relative bust... the good news is that i believe Baldwin is more naturally gifted, more physical & capable of the circus play.

Hopefully he keeps on chugging the kool-aid.

Ace Gunner 05-28-2012 03:26 PM

ROFL homers

BigMeatballDave 05-28-2012 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8643774)
ROFL homers

Moron LOLs

Pasta Little Brioni 05-28-2012 03:28 PM

Can't wait to see him up against that horrible Raider secondary.

BoneKrusher 05-28-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8643612)
With Cassel?

Exactly.
my concern.

Munson 05-28-2012 03:59 PM

I'm ready for Baldwin to tear some sh*t up this season.

Thig Lyfe 05-28-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8643589)
I think we'll see the Killer Bs

Hey man that's my idea!!!

Chiefshrink 05-28-2012 04:02 PM

It's OTA's ! He better be kicking ass !!!

Diva? Way to early to tell. Other than an injury last year he hasn't face any real adversity yet.

Wait and see at this point.:thumb:

Chiefshrink 05-28-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 8643850)
Hey man that's my idea!!!

You are correct! I remember !! Racer gets credit !

Chiefshrink 05-28-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 8643848)
I'm ready for Baldwin to tear some sh*t up this season.

Let's hope but he has a severe handicap that is not even his and I think we all know who that is:rolleyes:

Psyko Tek 05-28-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8643749)
If he plays 16 games, Baldwin's got 1000 yards wrapped up. No question. And that's taking into account the Cassel factor too.

gonna need one hell of a lot of YAC to make that

BossChief 05-28-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7274965)
My hope is that Baldwin falls to us or that we trade for Larry Fitzgerald if his price tag is reasonable.

Either would be a homerun and would elevate this offense to another level.

Baldwin would be a perfect fit for this offense IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7279824)
Baldwin would be a perfect fit for our offense. Great hands. Great blocker. Fast. Great in red zone. Always gets open.

If he fell to our pick and there wasn't an elite NT or OLB available, he would be a great
pick.

the sick part is that with the trade down, we got Baldwin AND an elite OLB with the pick.

Hoover 05-28-2012 05:08 PM

The WR position on this team is perfect.

Sign DBowe and see what he and Baldwin can do for the next few years.

Not that difficult.

Now beyond that, I think one of them is going to get dealt, and I think its Bowe so long as he is worth the contract we will sign him to this year.

RealSNR 05-28-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8644011)
The WR position on this team is perfect.

Sign DBowe and see what he and Baldwin can do for the next few years.

Not that difficult.

Now beyond that, I think one of them is going to get dealt, and I think its Bowe so long as he is worth the contract we will sign him to this year.

y

CanadaKC 05-28-2012 05:30 PM

I like the fact they put Baldwin beside Berry in the locker room...:thumb:

Chiefs Pantalones 05-28-2012 05:46 PM

I think he's gonna tear it up this year.

aturnis 05-28-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 8643608)
I like you.

Were you talking to me? B/c I hadn't said anything, but you were looking right at me.

Canofbier 05-28-2012 05:56 PM

Not to be a Debbie Downer or anything, but why is everyone so damn certain that he'll tear things up? Even near the end of last year, I don't remember him being all-star or anything.

Don't get me wrong - he's got all the potential in the world, and has a chance to be one of the best receivers in the league. But let's not crown him just yet. So many things have to go right for him to reach his potential, and to assume them all is to set ourselves up for disappointment.

RealSNR 05-28-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 8644077)
Not to be a Debbie Downer or anything, but why is everyone so damn certain that he'll tear things up? Even near the end of last year, I don't remember him being all-star or anything.

Don't get me wrong - he's got all the potential in the world, and has a chance to be one of the best receivers in the league. But let's not crown him just yet. So many things have to go right for him to reach his potential, and to assume them all is to set ourselves up for disappointment.

"So many things have to go right for him to reach his potential"

He's doing ALL of those things correctly right now. You've heard the coaches reports. Don't you think the chances of him turning on God mode are FAR greater than the chances of him busting?

I mean, I'd put it right now at like 80/20. I'm only leaving the 20% out there in the case of freak injury or some other crazy shit.

Direckshun 05-28-2012 06:30 PM

The first paragraph in the OP is like a symphony.

Bach's "Fist A Cow" in A major.

Thig Lyfe 05-28-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 8643854)
You are correct! I remember !! Racer gets credit !

YESSSS!!!! I got sportsshrink on my side!!!

RealSNR 05-28-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8644109)
The first paragraph in the OP is like a symphony.

Bach's "Fist A Cow" in A major.

Bach didn't write any symphonies, reerun.

Rausch 05-28-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8644128)
Bach didn't write any symphonies, reerun.

LMAO

Thig Lyfe 05-28-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8644128)
Bach didn't write any symphonies, reerun.

OH SNAP

Toad 05-28-2012 06:52 PM

Baldwin is good and all, but can't catch it and throw it too...

See what I did there?

Demonpenz 05-28-2012 06:54 PM

Honestly you can't really tell if he is doing good or carr's replacement is doing crappy.

Ace Gunner 05-28-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8643973)
the sick part is that with the trade down, we got Baldwin AND an elite OLB with the pick.

ya, pioli will get recognition for this come next season.

L.A. Chieffan 05-28-2012 07:02 PM

Cassell is gonna make this dude look bad ass

Rausch 05-28-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8644152)
Cassell is gonna make this dude look bad ass

The door: Pass through it and keep walking...

Ace Gunner 05-28-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad (Post 8644139)
Baldwin is good and all, but can't catch it and throw it too...

See what I did there?

while I say baldwin is going to become a good WR I also think he'll be a team player too, especially in the first seasons. he has this to prove & make up for. cassel and the offense wont be great, neither will baldwin, but he will show us he can do the things he is asked to do and should do them good enough this year to impress fans.

no pro bowl, I don't think, but baldwin will go to work and show some presence on this offense. let's not forget who #1 is.

L.A. Chieffan 05-28-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8644154)
The door: Pass through it and keep walking...

Is that Morrison?

Rausch 05-28-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8644157)
Is that Morrison?

It means get the **** out...

RealSNR 05-28-2012 07:49 PM

Yeah. Like Matt Cassel in the playoffs. Just get the **** out. Throw a billion interceptions on your own side of the field. Or check it down like a reerun against the Ravens defense. Don't care how. Just get the **** out.

L.A. Chieffan 05-28-2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8644170)
It means get the **** out...

I know, it's pretty obvious that Cassell is going to be awesome with all these weapons but it's hard for me to contain my excitement.

Direckshun 05-28-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8644128)
Bach didn't write any symphonies, reerun.

I hate you.

Okie_Apparition 05-28-2012 08:35 PM

Speaking of containment
After that Matt hat video
How is he the father of only three

tk13 05-28-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8644128)
Bach didn't write any symphonies, reerun.

That's right. It's much more like a Gordon Lightfoot song.

Mr. Laz 05-28-2012 08:40 PM

you going against 'haters' is hilarious

RealSNR 05-28-2012 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8644277)
you going against 'haters' is hilarious

I hate Matt Cassel and...

...

that's it.

Tell me who else I hate.

jspchief 05-28-2012 09:01 PM

He went a week of OTAs without punching someone?

Clearly he's a candidate for NFL Man of the Year.

RealSNR 05-28-2012 09:02 PM

Okay, Matt Cassel and white RBs.

And black kickers, but we all hate those guys.

chefsos 05-28-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8643589)
Killer Bs

B<sup>3</sup>

Groves 05-28-2012 09:43 PM

This thread is as good as any to ask if there's even a morsel of hopeful rumor remaining in a Drew Brees trade somewhere?

Rain Man 05-28-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groves (Post 8644341)
This thread is as good as any to ask if there's even a morsel of hopeful rumor remaining in a Drew Brees trade somewhere?

I think so, but only if Manning doesn't sign with us.

BossChief 05-28-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groves (Post 8644341)
This thread is as good as any to ask if there's even a morsel of hopeful rumor remaining in a Drew Brees trade somewhere?

Dude, we traded for him a couple days ago.

Direckshun 05-28-2012 11:35 PM

There's a part of me that's certain Belichek could like Mallett so much that he could still salvage a 1st rounder for Tom Brady if he made his move now.

In which case, I'd be first in line with saying let's get Brady's ass in Red & Gold and draft our QBOTF next year, Denver style.

RustShack 05-28-2012 11:44 PM

Two Chief Pro Bowlers this year completely out of left field. Brady Quinn and Johnathan Baldwin.

Simply Red 05-28-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8644088)
"So many things have to go right for him to reach his potential"

He's doing ALL of those things correctly right now. You've heard the coaches reports. Don't you think the chances of him turning on God mode are FAR greater than the chances of him busting?

I mean, I'd put it right now at like 80/20. I'm only leaving the 20% out there in the case of freak injury or some other crazy shit.

http://i.imgur.com/68Ds5.gif

Direckshun 05-28-2012 11:53 PM

What are you trying to say, SR?

Simply Red 05-28-2012 11:56 PM

I see SNR is serving fools again


Simply Red 05-28-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8644466)
What are you trying to say, SR?

http://i.imgur.com/68Ds5.gif

Simply Red 05-28-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8644466)
What are you trying to say, SR?

it's just a compliment gif, OKAY!? SNR and I have been dating behind your back.

Ming the Merciless 05-28-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8643589)
1. **** all the haters last year and this offseason.

All 3 of them?

Maybe I missed it but was there a big "I hate JB" fan club?

RealSNR 05-29-2012 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 8644472)
it's just a compliment gif, OKAY!? SNR and I have been dating behind your back.

Well, we WERE dating behind his back. Now we're just dating.

RealSNR 05-29-2012 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8644473)
All 3 of them?

Maybe I missed it but was there a big "I hate JB" fan club?

Well, I'm using the term "hater" pretty loosely. I got sick of all the shit Baldwin was getting immediately after we drafted him. People calling him a diva with a bad attitude who didn't even know a single goddamn thing about the guy other than that incident where he called his QB a POS. Then the Thomas Jones thing happened and what do they do? Blame Baldwin. It was all his fault. It couldn't possibly be that a player who has a HISTORY of locker room fights like Thomas Jones was being his usual punk-ass bitch self.

Then Baldwin started playing. And really, he started playing pretty well. He was a rookie with ol' shit-for-QB Palko. He demonstrated in the San Diego game that he's got the ability to play in this league, and really seemed to have a connection with Cassel.

After the season ended, people already ****ing wrote him off as a bust just because he had a rough start. They'll tell you they were just being "reasonable" about their expectations regarding Baldwin, but these are the exact same ****ing assholes who were calling him a loser when we drafted him.

Not the majority of posters. Well under half. But still a significant batch that I felt like chewing out.

RealSNR 05-29-2012 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8644451)
There's a part of me that's certain Belichek could like Mallett so much that he could still salvage a 1st rounder for Tom Brady if he made his move now.

In which case, I'd be first in line with saying let's get Brady's ass in Red & Gold and draft our QBOTF next year, Denver style.

I'd tap that.

Ming the Merciless 05-29-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8644481)

Not the majority of posters. Well under half. But still a significant batch that I felt like chewing out.

They deserve it!!! Kid has seemed nothing short of beastly when he takes the field IMO....

Micjones 05-29-2012 06:21 AM

How exactly does one kick ass in OTA's?

Chiefnj2 05-29-2012 07:26 AM

From 1.9 receptions per game to Pro Bowl.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-29-2012 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8644451)
There's a part of me that's certain Belichek could like Mallett so much that he could still salvage a 1st rounder for Tom Brady if he made his move now.

In which case, I'd be first in line with saying let's get Brady's ass in Red & Gold and draft our QBOTF next year, Denver style.

No....chance. Whatsoever. Yeah, I'm suuuure Belicheck is itching to just give Brady away. This is as silly as the Saints gladly forking over Brees for Cassel and a 1st.


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