Ron Jaworski's Top 30 QB's in the NFL
 

only up to 22 on the countdown so far

30. Tim Tebow
29. Blaine Gabbert
28. Christian Ponder
27. Matt Flynn
26. Matt Moore
25. Kevin Kolb
24. Ryan Fitzpatrick
23. Mark Sanchez
22. Matt Cassel
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20.
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Yuck. Sanchez should be ahead of Cassel on playoff wins alone.

Matt Cassel too high imo.

it's going to be pretty sad to watch all the Chiefs fans on this board bitch about how their QB should be LOWER ...


:shake:

The sad part is it's the truth

I know you guys hate Casshole with a fiery passion but, honestly, considering where they were drafted and what promise they held and where they sit now, Sanchez definitely deserves to sit lower than Cassel.

And being 22nd is still pretty bad, considering there are only 32 starters.

The truth of it wouldn’t be so sad if management didn’t think otherwise.

maybe, maybe not ... but normally fans defend their teams even if they don't deserve it. Sort of the definition of "fan"atic.

but around here if you want to be cool then you say 'cassel sucks' in every thread posted.

it's beyond stupid


personally i think that Jaws knows more about judging QB's than all of us put together.

being #22 is hardly a compliment

Well this should bring out the menstrating vaginas...

I would take Fitzpatrick over Cassel.

Have you heard Jaws rave about Cassel? " He's a rock solid QB that you can win with" which is a direct quote from the Monday Night Charger's game on Halloween.

That seems about right

Though true, since he does suck.

Agreed that Jaws is a bright football guy but he’s also a bit of a Chiefs homer and if it weren’t for that I’d bet Cassel would be ranked a lot closer to Gabbert, which was about his level of performance last year, instead of being ahead of Sanchez.

:popcorn:

I would swap Cassel with Fitzpatrick, other than that, seems about right.

Tim Tebow and Matt Moore bested Cassel at Arrowhead last year.

Sanchez didn't completely shit his pants in the playoffs.

Sanchez > Cassel

I think your splitting hairs in that 22-25 range.

I wouldn't. Fitzpatrick is garbage.

Another QB who bested Cassel at Arrowhead last season!

Anyone who beats Cassel at Arrrowhead is > Cassel

Eh, I think Matt Moore is better. I think Flynn will prove to be better.

I think the rest of them (apart from Gabbert and Tebow) could be thrown into a hopper and shaken out in any order, though I'd still rather have Sanchez and probably Fitzpatrick over Cassel. And ultimately, I think Cassel is probably Ponder's most likely comparable (with Ponder at least having some upside).

It's staggering how bad our QB situation is, really.

That's probably about right.

Are you implying Cassel is not garbage?

I still fail to understand the lack of respect for Matt Moore.

If Cassel didn't have his fluke 2010 season, where do ya'll think he would be sitting?

Does that work the other way too? Any QB Cassel beats on the road Cassel is better than?

I am quoting this post to show my agreement with its content.

Fitz is a Cassel clone, dude. He has this reputation of being a gritty, gutsy winner just like Cassel, and that's because people can't think of any other way to spin his terrible game.

That win against KC was just another "gutsy" win by Fitz against a super shitty team. Cassel has a bunch of those types of games to his credit, too.

It's sad that I would take any of those QB's (except Tebow) over Cassell for this team.

And those are the WORST in the league.

Cassel shouldn't even crack the top 50.

Cassel is a rancid turd in a Kansas City land fill during the summer covered with milk a week past due.

Fitzpatrick is a rancid turd in a Kansas City land fill during the summer covered with milk TWO weeks past due.

Wait I thought Tebow was one of the best in the NFL?

That's not true. I am far better than #22. - Cassel
I second that -Scott Pioli

No way does Cassel deserve to be 22, he should be 30th.

Number rankings for these QBs are meaningless. They're all pretty much the same. Just lump them in the, borderline starter to ideally a backup, category.

but still Tebow and Sanchez have wins in the Playoffs, something Cassel can only dream about the way he reads a defense.

I like the way the first two posts sum it all up.

Is there a 33rd option?

that would be about where i'd rank him.:D

enter the stupid ****s ...

Sanchez has more playoff wins than every QB in this team's history not named Dawson.

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Give Tamba Hali wheelbarrow and a jugs machine; equally good results if not better.

FYP ROFL

I don't put very much stock into those playoff victories for Tebow or Sanchez, it doesn't make them better, just like winning a super bowl doesn't make Trent Dilfer better than Dan Marino. The Broncos lucked out last year. The Chiefs even with Cassel could have beaten the Steeler team that Tebow faced in the playoffs last year. Horrible O line and the D was decimated with injuries.

how can Fitzpatrick be below cassel? That makes absolutely no sense.

Last year Cassel beat Curtis Painter and Kyle Boller in road games.

In 2010 he beat Seneca Wallace, Matt Hasselbeck and Sam Bradford on the road.

In 2009 he beat Jason Campbell, JaMarcus Russell and Kyle Orton.

So sure, run with that, you ****ing shithead pixie.

yea, because saying that Cassel is a functional, game manager level QB is 'washing his balls'

:rolleyes:

Ron Jaworski > BoneLicker

i agree with the Tebow win over a bad steeler team,
i'm just sayin Tebow has a Playoff win and Cassel will NEVER have a playoff W in his stats.

Cassel may be a game manager level QB one day but it's gonna take a lot of work.
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WHOA, WHOA, WHOOOOOOOAAAA, Pat'na!

Let's be realistic. I've seen pimply-faced teenagers manage the Taco Bell with more aplomb than Cassel "manages" a game.

run the ball .. play D .. short passes .. maybe a ball control game with our wonder-boy .....

"Great Game Managers in NFL History"

This book would sell!

yeah the book would be as boring as these teams passing attacks. ROFL

Foreword by Steve Bono.

Define short passes. This guy throws INTs to D-linemen at the line of scrimmage.

Alright. So you agree he's better than Orton, and Bradford? Yay!

You're a ****ing joke! Go make a video and wack it to pictures of Carrie Fisher in her Jabba's palace costume you asswipe.

He was better than rookie Sam Bradford, and Kyle Orton, in 2010, yes.

And last year he was bested by Tebow.

That's not something to be proud of.

Matt Cassel is an embarrassment.

Seems about right.

You argue draft position but ignore the fact that the Chiefs traded away a 2nd round draft pick and paid him a ton of $$$ to be their starter.

He's a really mediocre like 10 or so starters in the NFL right now. We both want someone else, but your stupid QB vs. QB scale of judging Cassel is a joke.

Uhhh....Montana? :spock:

So what?

Gabbert ahead of Tebow is just ridiculous.

Montana only had two for us. Try again. Sanchez has more than two playoff wins. Try again

i agree.

He is a bottom 1/3 QB. There's no question.

He allowed Tebow to come into Arrowhead and beat us by completing, what, 3 passes?

This is why he constantly fails against upper-echelon quarterbacks. He can't compete with what they produce.

Are you really gonna ignore that? Expectations have not been met. Underperformers piss off fans on every team at every position. You pay a guy a bunch of money, you expect a return on your investment.

ROFL

so how much did you contribute to Cassels salary?

This is a dumb argument. I contributed by attending games. Which, btw, I vowed to not do until they change the QB. Look, I'm not one of those fans who bitches about everything.

On a side note, I find it ironic that you and Laz are calling Cassel detractors whiners considering how you guys always whine about the way Bill Self runs his KU basketball team.

Anyway, I tried to support Cassel. But it has become glaringly obvious that he is no better than an average to below average QB. If we, as fans, just accept that then nothing will ever change. I would like to witness the Chiefs win a Superbowl in my lifetime. How about you?

I mean Gabbert's ceiling is higher but damn Jaws that's some bullshit. Maybe since Gabbert is starting and he isn't? I suppose.

If you're paid an exorbitant amount to do your job at a high level, and fail to do so, wouldn't you expect people to be unhappy with you?

Only the people who pay you. Cassel's salary hasn't prevented the team from acquiring any player.

Mother****er say what?

You have got to be kidding me?

What about the people who buy season tickets? Don't they have a right to be upset. They're spending hundreds of dollars a yr. Some of that money goes towards his salary.

Jaws is of course judging as a former QB & Cassel has all the intanglibles outside of talent. Sanchize should have been a DB. He can throw 5 picks & go set on the bench & have not a care

I have given up hope.. Been following this team since 1988... We arent any closer to a superbowl team now than we were 20+ years ago...

Just a few reasons we will never win a superbowl Cassel, Crennel, Hunt, crappy fanbase that doesnt want a franchise QB, Shitty drafts, the list goes on and on...

Whos forcing them to buy tickets?

Seems about right to me. Won't stop the bitching though.

if i were buying season tickets i'd be on Pioli's ass to get a legit QB.

Yep. Not going to a game until the QB situation is in better hands.

Nah, you'd still be on here making Cassel sigs and bitching like everyone else.