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BigRedChief 06-25-2012 06:10 PM

Newsroom. Anyone watching?
 
First episode looks promising. I love excellent TV writing.

SAUTO 06-25-2012 06:24 PM

Got it on the DVR. Didn't have a chance to watch it yet
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bowener 06-25-2012 07:12 PM

I enjoyed it.

|Zach| 06-25-2012 09:13 PM

It has been hit pretty hard in a lot of reviews but I like it a whole lot.

Can't wait for the next episode.

Jenson71 06-26-2012 12:09 AM

I would definitely watch it if I had HBO or had friends who had HBO.

Bowser 06-26-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8701115)
Got it on the DVR. Didn't have a chance to watch it yet

Me too.

Bambi 06-26-2012 11:52 AM

It was very good. But not a "long run" type of show. Has too much of a cinema feel. But for 2-3 seasons it's going to be pretty great.

gblowfish 06-26-2012 12:05 PM

We were talking about this at work. Sorkin wrote this episode. He can be a little liberal preachy in his story telling. Some of the dialogue in the negotiation between Jeff Daniels and his ex-girlfriend/Executive Producer chick comes off like a high school commencement address.

Also, the camera on tracks following people as they walk down hallways -ala West Wing- gets a little annoying when it's over done. Sorkin loves this effect for some reason, I think he over-does it.

Otherwise, thought the show was OK, but didn't have the authentic feel of The West Wing. I love Jeff Daniels as an actor. He was outstanding as Col. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain in "Gettysburg." Pit that against his part in "Dumb and Dumber" and that shows his crazy range.

And the chicks were hot.

Great Expectations 06-26-2012 12:19 PM

I thought it was great, and it should lean left. It is a show about a newsroom that isn't Faux News.

Omaha 06-26-2012 12:23 PM

I loved it.

BigRedChief 06-26-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8701399)
It has been hit pretty hard in a lot of reviews but I like it a whole lot.

Can't wait for the next episode.

Its better than 90% of TV already. **** the reviewers.

Aries Walker 06-26-2012 05:08 PM

Me too. I can't wait for next Sunday.

Also, Sam Waterston was a Marine and will kick the shit out of you. He doesn't care how many energy bars you eat.

Bambi 06-26-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aries Walker (Post 8703210)
Me too. I can't wait for next Sunday.

Also, Sam Waterston was a Marine and will kick the shit out of you. He doesn't care how many energy bars you eat.

Is he trying to play a drunk or did he just get really old?

I can't tell.

Aries Walker 06-26-2012 05:37 PM

I suspect both.

Scott Pilgrim 06-26-2012 06:44 PM

Alison Pill being on my screen is never a bad thing

Great Expectations 06-26-2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8703225)
Is he trying to play a drunk or did he just get really old?

I can't tell.

Yes

Buck 07-01-2012 09:12 PM

Just watched the first episode. Pretty good.

Bambi 07-01-2012 11:19 PM

I take it back. This show sucks.

cosmo20002 07-02-2012 12:02 AM

Haven't watched the 2nd one yet, but that Aaron Sorkin-style writing, where is sounds like two people having a conversation that only Aaron Sorkin would write--I just find that grating.

WoodDraw 07-02-2012 10:36 AM

I've been a big Sorkin fan in the past. Sports Night was great, the West Wing was brilliant. But so far, Newsroom isn't working. It could be renamed Aaron Sorkin's Civic Lessons Hour.

The West Wing, even as as a show about politics, never was this in your face. It was always about the characters. The dialogue was better too. Still typical Sorkin, but not so obviously fake and forced.

I'll give it time though. I've heard the writing gets better over the next couple episodes.

Bambi 07-02-2012 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 8714192)
I've been a big Sorkin fan in the past. Sports Night was great, the West Wing was brilliant. But so far, Newsroom isn't working. It could be renamed Aaron Sorkin's Civic Lessons Hour.

The West Wing, even as as a show about politics, never was this in your face. It was always about the characters. The dialogue was better too. Still typical Sorkin, but not so obviously fake and forced.

I'll give it time though. I've heard the writing gets better over the next couple episodes.

I LOATHE the type of dialogue that was used in last night's episode. We all know what it's trying to be...quick, witty and smart with a dash of humor.

It's very little of that. I found none of it funny or charming. Instead felt over acted and self-important.

gblowfish 07-02-2012 10:52 AM

I predict some grudge ****ing will go on soon.

vailpass 07-02-2012 02:49 PM

If it makes a second season I'll be surprised.

BigRedChief 07-02-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 8714192)
I've been a big Sorkin fan in the past. Sports Night was great, the West Wing was brilliant. But so far, Newsroom isn't working. It could be renamed Aaron Sorkin's Civic Lessons Hour.

The West Wing, even as as a show about politics, never was this in your face. It was always about the characters. The dialogue was better too. Still typical Sorkin, but not so obviously fake and forced.

I'll give it time though. I've heard the writing gets better over the next couple episodes.

Sports night and West Wing were not that great our of the gate either. They both had to find their footing. I'm sure they see what we see. Some stuff is not working, some is etc.

BigRedChief 07-02-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8714208)
I LOATHE the type of dialogue that was used in last night's episode. We all know what it's trying to be...quick, witty and smart with a dash of humor.

WTF?:shake:

What did you expect? Thats classic Sorkin, thats what he does.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-02-2012 03:58 PM

So skip this? Haven't tuned in yet, but it's easy to catch up.

Bambi 07-02-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8714894)
WTF?:shake:

What did you expect? Thats classic Sorkin, thats what he does.

I really liked Social Network. It was the same schtick but felt natural and not forced.

Emily Mortimer isn't a complete failure but whats up with all the body swaying expressions. It's a bit comical.

|Zach| 07-02-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8714795)
If it makes a second season I'll be surprised.

Newsroom gets picked up for 2nd season.

http://media.avclub.com/images/408/408649/16x9/627.jpg

http://www.avclub.com/articles/hbo-r...e-blood,82041/

vailpass 07-02-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8714950)

Doesn't surprise me.

|Zach| 07-02-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8714961)
Doesn't surprise me.

LMAO

blaise 07-02-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 8713817)
Haven't watched the 2nd one yet, but that Aaron Sorkin-style writing, where is sounds like two people having a conversation that only Aaron Sorkin would write--I just find that grating.

For once I agree with you on something. I do not enjoy his style of writing.

vailpass 07-02-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8714966)
LMAO

Had no idea they decided after one episode to pickup new shows for a second season unless they were obvious hits.

|Zach| 07-02-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8714983)
Had no idea they decided after one episode to pickup new shows for a second season unless they were obvious hits.

HBO usually gets out in front of things. They also seem more likely to give things time based on their investments. I was pleasantly surprised to see that news though didn't expect it so soon.

Baby Lee 07-03-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Newsroom. Anyone watching?
I would be, if I weren't standing in a field in the middle of AFGANISTAN!!!!!*


* - I don't get 'who's on first' either.

Thig Lyfe 07-03-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8716872)
I would be, if I weren't standing in a field in the middle of AFGANISTAN!!!!!*


* - I don't get 'who's on first' either.

QUICK! Somebody do a Gilbert & Sullivan parody!

Also, the first episode of Newsroom was pretty bad. I've heard the second episode is even worse. I can't wait to watch it all!!!

Aries Walker 07-06-2012 05:04 AM

I thought the first one was pretty good, but yeah, the second was decidedly less so.

Baby Lee 07-06-2012 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aries Walker (Post 8721529)
I thought the first one was pretty good, but yeah, the second was decidedly less so.

'Less so' meaning 'too Sorkin-ey' or just plain blah?

Great Expectations 07-07-2012 07:26 AM

Blah, weak story, poor direction, acting was sub par. First episode was great in those respects.

ChiefsFanatic 07-08-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pilgrim (Post 8703422)
Alison Pill being on my screen is never a bad thing

YES

Great Expectations 07-09-2012 10:40 AM

I thought it was ok last night, too much propaganda to be good. Much better than the second episode, but still not as good as the first one.

Bambi 07-09-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 8727278)
I thought it was ok last night, too much propaganda to be good. Much better than the second episode, but still not as good as the first one.

Agreed, was better.

Why do you say propaganda? Do you not think news organizations such as this aren't basically run by big business?

I may like this show alright but I haven't watched a cable news channel in years.

Great Expectations 07-09-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8727418)
Agreed, was better.

Why do you say propaganda? Do you not think news organizations such as this aren't basically run by big business?

I may like this show alright but I haven't watched a cable news channel in years.

I am an anti tea party independent who leans slightly right, although moving left more and more. About half of the show last night was talking about how dumb the tea party is and how their elected officials are a threat to our country. I agree with most of the sentiment, but I don't need to have politics thrown in my face for an hour when watching a HBO drama series.

I get that some of it is realistic in that all but one cable news show leans way left. The "news show" stated that they aren't going to push an agenda, but instead focus solely on the issues. That this "news show" is above all of that and the new direction is concentrating on the middle. Clearly over the 6-10 months in 2010 that the show covered there would be some things to criticize the left for, but all they did was pump anti right messages all night. It was the exact opposite of concentrating on the middle. Keith Olberman might as well have been the news anchor last night.

Bambi 07-09-2012 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 8727494)
I am an anti tea party independent who leans slightly right, although moving left more and more. About half of the show last night was talking about how dumb the tea party is and how their elected officials are a threat to our country. I agree with most of the sentiment, but I don't need to have politics thrown in my face for an hour when watching a HBO drama series.

I get that some of it is realistic in that all but one cable news show leans way left. The "news show" stated that they aren't going to push an agenda, but instead focus solely on the issues. That this "news show" is above all of that and the new direction is concentrating on the middle. Clearly over the 6-10 months in 2010 that the show covered there would be some things to criticize the left for, but all they did was pump anti right messages all night. It was the exact opposite of concentrating on the middle. Keith Olberman might as well have been the news anchor last night.


Although theoretically I agree with what you're saying it's becoming harder and harder not to see that this "tea party" movement is in fact a real threat to the country's liberties.

So much of a threat that even Republicans all over the spectrum have no realistic outlook towards future that is viable. Many are trying to voice that but don't want to come out as "pro-Obama" or something....even though the tea party is an issue that doesn't even involve Democrats.

I'll agree though that I find it a bit hard to believe that Jeff Daniels character is Republican.

vailpass 07-09-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8727568)
Although theoretically I agree with what you're saying it's becoming harder and harder not to see that this "tea party" movement is in fact a real threat to the country's liberties.

So much of a threat that even Republicans all over the spectrum have no realistic outlook towards future that is viable. Many are trying to voice that but don't want to come out as "pro-Obama" or something....even though the tea party is an issue that doesn't even involve Democrats.

I'll agree though that I find it a bit hard to believe that Jeff Daniels character is Republican.

LMAO

blaise 07-09-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8727568)
Although theoretically I agree with what you're saying it's becoming harder and harder not to see that this "tea party" movement is in fact a real threat to the country's liberties.

So much of a threat that even Republicans all over the spectrum have no realistic outlook towards future that is viable. Many are trying to voice that but don't want to come out as "pro-Obama" or something....even though the tea party is an issue that doesn't even involve Democrats.

I'll agree though that I find it a bit hard to believe that Jeff Daniels character is Republican.


How scary!

Baby Lee 07-12-2012 12:11 PM

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vailpass 07-12-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8734864)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/S78RzZr3IwI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

? Does he recycle lines for different shows?

blaise 07-12-2012 12:17 PM

His dialogue always seems like, "Oh, look how clever I am!" to me.

Baby Lee 07-12-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8734885)
His dialogue always seems like, "Oh, look how clever I am!" to me.

What I'm trying to figure out is if Sorkin is smart enough to make Will look like a dope for correcting McKenzie on the Quixote/Horse/Donkey thing [Don actually did ride a horse, Sancho rode the donkey], or dumb enough to not know the difference.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EDMddeVAyz...0/image004.png

Omaha 07-12-2012 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8734885)
His dialogue always seems like, "Oh, look how clever I am!" to me.

I agree. the cutesy-clever dialogue with rapid-fire delivery is fun to watch, but it doesn't sound natural at all.

Baby Lee 07-12-2012 03:29 PM

Great review

http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2...e-for-optimism

Quote:

The underlying thesis of The Newsroom is that the problems of TV news – no, the problems of news media – no, the problems of American political life – are really pretty easy to solve. What could turn things around, the story suggests, is one newsman who will look into a camera and speak the objective and easily discernible truth. And, it suggests, the only reason that hasn't happened anywhere (and is thus so revelatory) is that everyone in every media organization in the country is so obtuse that they've never thought of offering objective facts in a civil manner before, and is such a money-grubbing coward that they'd never do it if they did.

And the reason, under this same theory, that Americans are separated by deep and profound political divisions is simply that they don't know anything about anything. They are dumb and gullible and believe, en masse, whatever is put in front of them (MacKenzie calls one of the show's objectives "speaking truth to stupid"), the upside of which is that if you serve them better facts, you can improve them. That's the epiphany that comes to Will, and to his new executive producer MacKenzie McHale (Emily Mortimer), and to Charlie. It's so easy, they all realize. All you have to do is stop being a mindless stooge like everyone else is, and you can start to fix the fact that we are right now a nation of idiots. The title of the pilot episode is, in fact, "We Just Decided To," and that's absolutely, positively Sorkin's point: we fail each other not when we try but do not succeed, but when nobody "just decides to" do everything right.

BigRedChief 07-12-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 8735211)
I agree. the cutesy-clever dialogue with rapid-fire delivery is fun to watch, but it doesn't sound natural at all.

Again, thats classic Sorkin. Thats what he does. It's clever not natural. Still its fun in its own way. No one does that. Like it or not, its orginal.

BigRedChief 07-12-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 8727494)
I am an anti tea party independent who leans slightly right, although moving left more and more. About half of the show last night was talking about how dumb the tea party is and how their elected officials are a threat to our country. I agree with most of the sentiment, but I don't need to have politics thrown in my face for an hour when watching a HBO drama series.

I get that some of it is realistic in that all but one cable news show leans way left. The "news show" stated that they aren't going to push an agenda, but instead focus solely on the issues. That this "news show" is above all of that and the new direction is concentrating on the middle. Clearly over the 6-10 months in 2010 that the show covered there would be some things to criticize the left for, but all they did was pump anti right messages all night. It was the exact opposite of concentrating on the middle. Keith Olberman might as well have been the news anchor last night.

Dude, Did you not watch an episode of West Wing? He puts his politics in his art.

BTW, my new favorite phrase is "Speak truth to stupid".

Omaha 07-13-2012 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8735989)
Again, thats classic Sorkin. Thats what he does. It's clever not natural. Still its fun in its own way. No one does that. Like it or not, its orginal.

You just restated everything I said.

blaise 07-13-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8735989)
Again, thats classic Sorkin. Thats what he does. It's clever not natural. Still its fun in its own way. No one does that. Like it or not, its orginal.

That's kind of the thing. Like it or not. I choose not.

WoodDraw 07-13-2012 11:09 AM

The last episode was the best so far, but I still find the parts where he's doing "the news" incredibly boring and annoying. And none of the characters are interesting yet. And since it's HBO and you're not talking about a long season, is there any time left to make them interesting?

dirk digler 07-13-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 8737110)
The last episode was the best so far, but I still find the parts where he's doing "the news" incredibly boring and annoying. And none of the characters are interesting yet. And since it's HBO and you're not talking about a long season, is there any time left to make them interesting?

Of course just need some nudity and sex.

Great Expectations 07-13-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8735993)
Dude, Did you not watch an episode of West Wing? He puts his politics in his art.

BTW, my new favorite phrase is "Speak truth to stupid".

I have never seen an episode of West Wing (I was in college at that time and didn't watch many prime time drama shows). I did watch a little bit of Sports Night and enjoyed it and he has made some pretty good movies like A Few Good Men, Charlie Wilson's War, The Social Network, and Moneyball.

|Zach| 07-13-2012 02:19 PM

Looking forward to the next one.

Baby Lee 07-13-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8735989)
Again, thats classic Sorkin. Thats what he does. It's clever not natural. Still its fun in its own way. No one does that. Like it or not, its orginal.

Original, but inferior to Mamet. :p

BigRedChief 07-13-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8737683)
Original, but inferior to Mamet. :p

Mamet is so far above Sorkin in class thats not a fair fight. He's one of my favorite modern writers.

BigRedChief 07-13-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8737153)
Of course just need some nudity and sex.

yeah, like some Olivia Munn

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gblowfish 07-15-2012 09:50 PM

So, did anybody watch tonight?

|Zach| 07-16-2012 04:32 AM

The end of last nights episode was great. That last 15 mins or so was their best so far. Loving it.

KC_Connection 07-16-2012 06:54 AM

Episodes 1, 3, and 4 have been quite entertaining. Particularly the end of yesterday's episode. This show has some promise.

Omaha 07-16-2012 01:04 PM

This show kicks ass.

Bambi 07-17-2012 07:25 AM

I cried. That ****ing newsman Don.

BigRedChief 08-01-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8743968)
Episodes 1, 3, and 4 have been quite entertaining. Particularly the end of yesterday's episode. This show has some promise.

yeah it has its moments where it really is top quality TV. When he is in the chair broadcasting and some event is occuring, the writing and acting just gets sharper.

Olivia Munn is showing some promise as an actress.

kysirsoze 08-01-2012 09:05 PM

Olivia Munn might be great in certain roles, but she doesn't handle the rhythm and emphasis of Sorkin dialogue too well. She has her moments, but there are several points when she says a line and I think, "she missed". For contrast, see Sam Waterson and Jeff Daniels scenes.

BigRedChief 08-01-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8784618)
Olivia Munn might be great in certain roles, but she doesn't handle the rhythm and emphasis of Sorkin dialogue too well. She has her moments, but there are several points when she says a line and I think, "she missed". For contrast, see Sam Waterson and Jeff Daniels scenes.

All I know her from is the Daily Show. I thought she was a stupid comedian who happens to be hot also. Not a lot going on upstairs.

Bambi 08-02-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8784618)
Olivia Munn might be great in certain roles, but she doesn't handle the rhythm and emphasis of Sorkin dialogue too well. She has her moments, but there are several points when she says a line and I think, "she missed". For contrast, see Sam Waterson and Jeff Daniels scenes.

Is she trying to play kinda dumb or is that just her acting?

bowener 08-02-2012 04:21 PM

This show is pretty good. My biggest knock on the show, and something that needs to be changed before I will consider it great, is the god awful music. Just terrible.

BigRedChief 08-02-2012 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 8786575)
This show is pretty good. My biggest knock on the show, and something that needs to be changed before I will consider it great, is the god awful music. Just terrible.

I agree. Maybe they are so focused on snappy dialog they forget that you need quality music to prodcue a quality TV show.

Unsmooth-Moment 08-05-2012 02:08 AM

Just started watching this a couple of weeks ago. I like what I've seen so far.

ChiefsFanatic 08-05-2012 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8786017)
Is she trying to play kinda dumb or is that just her acting?

No. She is playing a character with two PHDs and no social skills whatsoever. I think she is nailing it. And it cracks me up the way this board believes that it knows what an Emmy winning writer should do to make his show better.

Sure, there are things that we wish would be different, but we have become TV snobs, believing we could improve Breaking Bad, or The Walking Dead, etc. We give ourselves too much credit, and believe ourselves to be smarter than we are.

We need to stick to things that we can actually do better than the people doing the job, and that's running the Kansas City Chiefs.

|Zach| 08-06-2012 05:24 AM

Another really strong episode.

Aries Walker 08-06-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 8792244)
No. She is playing a character with two PHDs and no social skills whatsoever. I think she is nailing it. And it cracks me up the way this board believes that it knows what an Emmy winning writer should do to make his show better.

Sure, there are things that we wish would be different, but we have become TV snobs, believing we could improve Breaking Bad, or The Walking Dead, etc. We give ourselves too much credit, and believe ourselves to be smarter than we are.

We need to stick to things that we can actually do better than the people doing the job, and that's running the Kansas City Chiefs.

On the other hand, TV executives recently green-lit another sitcom for Rob Schneider, so maybe they could take a few lessons from some everymans.

Bambi 08-06-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aries Walker (Post 8794561)
On the other hand, TV executives recently green-lit another sitcom for Rob Schneider, so maybe they could take a few lessons from some everymans.

I gave up the day they cancelled Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Baby Lee 08-06-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8794475)
Another really strong episode.

There's a problem marrying up the interpersonal stuff with the 'ripped from the headlines' stuff.
We've been with these characters for 7 weeks, but events have transpired over several months. Meanwhile, these characters are in stasis, Will and Mac's 'lurve' continues to simmer, the Maggie, Lisa, Jim triangle continues to be a more urgent issue than the death of the likes of OBL, heck Jim and Lisa have dated for months and the age old 'someone said ILY too soon' trope pops up TONIGHT? Nobody's moved on, gotten a promotion, changed their hairstyle, burnt out, . . . nothing?

Bambi 08-06-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8794961)
There's a problem marrying up the interpersonal stuff with the 'ripped from the headlines' stuff.
We've been with these characters for 7 weeks, but events have transpired over several months. Meanwhile, these characters are in stasis, Will and Mac's 'lurve' continues to simmer, the Maggie, Lisa, Jim triangle continues to be a more urgent issue than the death of the likes of OBL, heck Jim and Lisa have dated for months and the age old 'someone said ILY too soon' trope pops up TONIGHT? Nobody's moved on, gotten a promotion, changed their hairstyle, burnt out, . . . nothing?

If it helps I don't even pay attention to the "events" in chronological order. They more serve as a backdrop from my point of view. Yes there are overall implications in how the characters act....especially all the "TMI" nonsense that keeps going on.

Last night got kinda silly at points. Come on, he's eating pot brownies and everyone's joking around with it? Yea right. Then he just snaps into "broadcaster mode".


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