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Micjones 07-03-2012 02:18 PM

Chiefs: Game 1, Gameplan.
 
We all know this team traditionally starts off slow to open the season.
Brian Daboll is key to this team succeeding this season.
If he can help the offense avoid a slow start we might actually contend for the division title.

If you were him...
What would be your gameplan against the Falcons in Game 1?

The Falcons are pretty stout against the run.
They're a Top 10 unit in that regard.

How would you attack that defense?

Hammock Parties 07-03-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8716739)
We all know Matt Cassel traditionally starts off slow to open the season.

FYP

-King- 07-03-2012 02:21 PM

Razzle Dazzle.

Arenas takes the snap, hands it off to McCluster, McCluster runs right but tosses it back to Bowe before crossing the line off scrimmage. Bowe then throws the ball across the field to Cassel who was lined up as a WR. Cassel then throws the ball to a wide open Breaston who runs 40 yards and then pitches the ball back to a trailing Jamaal Charles. Charles runs it in for a TD.


Will work every time.

InChiefsHeaven 07-03-2012 02:22 PM

Air it out. Drop back and bomb it right out of the gate.

...oh wait...

Dante84 07-03-2012 02:22 PM

McCluster fumbles the opening kickoff.

Stevie Johnson then takes out Berry's knee.

wait...

Hammock Parties 07-03-2012 02:23 PM

Atlanta has a strong run defense.

We SHOULD try to come out passing, but we won't.

We're gonna run right into the teeth of their defense, and Cassel will blow third downs. It'll probably be 13-6 or 17-7 at halftime, depending on the number of penalties Routt gets.

Defense will eventually wilt due to the strain of Cassel's suck, and at some point in the third quarter, Matt Ryan to Julio Jones or Roddy White for a back breaking TD.

If you don't think this won't happen, you haven't watched the Chiefs the last three seasons.

Brock 07-03-2012 02:25 PM

Lots of teams think they have a good run defense until Jamaal Charles disabuses them of that notion.

Discuss Thrower 07-03-2012 02:25 PM

Only way they have a chance is to deny any scoring on Atlanta's first 3 possessions, and they must find a way to score at least two TDs / 1 TD, 2+ FGs

I doubt KC can win in a 2004 AFC Divisional Round shoot-out, and I don't think they'll be on the right side of a 10-3 defensive slugfest.

Hammock Parties 07-03-2012 02:26 PM

By the way, the worst game Eric Winston played last year was against Atlanta.

Get ready for a bunch of knee jerk idiots blaming him for the loss, even though it will be on Cassel for sure.

petegz28 07-03-2012 02:31 PM

Need to do a lot of PA fake early and often

Dayze 07-03-2012 02:32 PM

miMix up P/A pass on early downs until they soften a bit;
3 wide occasionally on early downs; w and w/out Moeaki in there.
Occasional Mis-direction runs in the intermediate distances on early downs.
Screens occasionally on 2nd and 2-5/yrds
Dex in the slot or motion on a pass play here or there.

1st down effeicienty will be a must Gotta make the Falcons 'think[ instead of react.
Good mis of run and pass; I'd say 40/60…assuming we're effective running on 1st down when we do it.

Avoid 3rd and 8+ like the plague.
Avoid turnovers like the plague.
Only time I wouldn't be worried is if we're at our own 40 or 50, and we're in 3rd and long and we take a shot. If it's intercepted, big deal. Would've had to punt anyway if our guy didn't catch it.
As much as it pains me to say it, the Chiefs have to take shots now and again downfield. And by shot, I don't mean Cassel's typical 'bomb' of 20 yds.

I don't think the Chiefs will try to pass right away because of Atlanta's run D (1 I haven't looked at it..just going off the OP). They have to be effective on the run. Move the ball, change FP; get the big fatties on the D-line sucking wind.
Otherwise, we're hosed if we run the ball for like 40 yds by 1/2 time etc.

Ultra Peanut 07-03-2012 02:32 PM

1. score points
2. don't allow points to be scored

BillSelfsTrophycase 07-03-2012 02:32 PM

Unplug Matt Cassel's alarm clock on game day

Ace Gunner 07-03-2012 02:33 PM

The NFL announced they will be using "crowd noise".

So, I'd turn that way up.

mlyonsd 07-03-2012 02:37 PM

Run, run, run, ru, run, continue to run until you successfully get a first down, thus showing off your physical dominance. The Falcons will be broken at that point.

Hammock Parties 07-03-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 8716786)
Run, run, run, ru, run, continue to run until you successfully get a first down, thus showing off your physical dominance. The Falcons will be broken at that point.

LMAO

Because the Falcons won't be expecting this.

They're gonna come out and stack the box like a mother****er.

This is Mark Castle against Mike Nolan. PAIN.

mcaj22 07-03-2012 02:40 PM

what Atlanta's D coordinator is Mike Nolan?!?!?

****kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkeopfjawkgnrkg rkgmlargagkr,.

Thig Lyfe 07-03-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8716743)
FYP

And he only gets slower.

mlyonsd 07-03-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8716795)
LMAO

Because the Falcons won't be expecting this.

They're gonna come out and stack the box like a mother****er.

This is Mark Castle against Mike Nolan. PAIN.

Like I said, after that first 1st down they will melt like lead toy soldiers in a blast furnace. We will use their bodies as cannon fodder in game 2.

shitgoose 07-03-2012 02:43 PM

1st play of the game for KC

Stanzi to Baldwin running a go route for TD catching ATL with only 1 safety back expecting run

Hammock Parties 07-03-2012 02:48 PM

If you wanted a reason to feel good, Brent Grimes was the #2 corner in the league last year.

He'll probably take Bowe outta the game.

God help us if Bowe isn't signed.

whoman69 07-03-2012 02:50 PM

In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

- George Carlin


That's all you really need to know.

SuperChief 07-03-2012 02:51 PM

Chiefs prolly win.

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-03-2012 02:52 PM

So, I guess it doesn't matter , we're starting o-1 . Who's next.

Munson 07-03-2012 02:53 PM

Offensive game plan:

Run Run Pass Punt

Hammock Parties 07-03-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 8716820)
Chiefs prolly win.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/97/977436.jpg

Discuss Thrower 07-03-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8716825)
So, I guess it doesn't matter , we're starting o-1 . Who's next.

We go to Buffalo.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-03-2012 03:12 PM

Cassel rips his vagina playing pinochle in the locker room before the game, Stanzi becomes starter, Chiefs win game.

Rasputin 07-03-2012 03:12 PM

Bench Cassel. Start Stanzi.


Edit: Shoot Cassel. Start Stanzi.

Hammock Parties 07-03-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 8716850)
We go to Buffalo.

Crap.

Last year they beat us bad.

In fact, it was their biggest margin of victory in eight years.

Going to their house...OUCH.

Ace Gunner 07-03-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8716841)


:LOL: No

Hammock Parties 07-03-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8716859)
:LOL: No

Worse Than Herm And Carl™

Ace Gunner 07-03-2012 03:17 PM

First play;

disgruntled fan parachute's into arrowhead and guns down Matt Cassel.

Ace Gunner 07-03-2012 03:19 PM

Second play;

arrowhead crowd grabs Scot Pioli from the sidelines and he disappears into the crowd, legs and arms seen flailing frantically, he is never seen or heard from again.

dj56dt58 07-03-2012 03:22 PM

who cares? Why avoid our strength just to avoid theirs? Last time Atlanta came to arrowhead with a top rush defense we rushed for 8 tds on their ass

BoneKrusher 07-03-2012 03:23 PM

Throw it deep and see if Cassel can hit the upright again.

BoneKrusher 07-03-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8716869)
First play;

disgruntled fan named BoneKrusher parachute's into arrowhead and guns down Matt Cassel.

FYP LMAO

Ace Gunner 07-03-2012 03:28 PM

ROFL Knew it was you Bone:LOL:

Hammock Parties 07-03-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 8716881)
who cares? Why avoid our strength just to avoid theirs? Last time Atlanta came to arrowhead with a top rush defense we rushed for 8 tds on their ass

That team is not this team.

Why would you even make that comparison?

Answer: you are a stupid homer.

BoneKrusher 07-03-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8716897)
ROFL Knew it was you Bone:LOL:

couldn't resist. LMAO

CoMoChief 07-03-2012 03:42 PM

1st snap of the game....PA Cassel, drops back and launches one to our FB, checking down for a nice 3 yd gain.

Marcellus 07-03-2012 03:46 PM

Glad I read this thread, now I won;t need to waste time actually watching the game.

mcaj22 07-03-2012 04:05 PM

if we had an average to decent QB that can attack Atlanta's awful safeties in the passing game, I would be more comfortable.

But our QB can't attack bad safety play because he can't throw more than a 5 yard checkdown or quick slant in hopes (Bowe) runs the rest of the 50 yards.

BoneKrusher 07-03-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8716857)


Edit: Shoot Cassel. Start Stanzi.

i volunteer. LMAO

FlaChief58 07-03-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shitgoose (Post 8716804)
1st play of the game for KC

Stanzi to Baldwin running a go route for TD catching ATL with only 1 safety back expecting run

I like the way you think :clap:

007 07-03-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8716923)
1st snap of the game....PA Cassel, drops back and launches one to our FB, checking down for a nice INT for TD.

FYP

BossChief 07-04-2012 01:30 AM

Matt Ryan is a TERRIBLE road qb. We need to give him some confusing looks mixed with a few easy completions to give the illusion of confidence before we rape him with a couple pick6ers.

On offense, we need to use a lot of draw, counter and stretch runs to start off with to loosen up their pass rush and then give them a lot of seam throws to Moeaki and quick slants to Bowe/Baldwin...this should open up play action and allow us to use more power runs.

If we come out predictable and try to win with the short passes and dump offs mixed with predictable run calls, we will do nothing and get behind multiple scores early and get blown out.

We need to also work the matchups to our advantage...we have two monsters at receiver and they shouldn't be able to match up with both of them while effectively covering Tony and the screen/swing game.

In all honesty, I think we have about a 60% chance at victory if Cassel can give us "effective game manager" quality play.

Probably more.

Trouble is, I doubt we get that out of him and that will likely be the same old story as we are all used to.

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8717882)
Matt Ryan is a TERRIBLE road qb.

He had 12 TD and 7 INT on the road last year.

84.6 QB Rating.

300 yards per game on the road.

I wish we could get those terrible numbers from Matt.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8717882)
Matt Ryan is a TERRIBLE road qb.

if Matt Ryan is the standard for "terrible" road QBs in the NFL then I'd hate to imagine what Matt Cassel is

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8717886)
if Matt Ryan is the standard for "terrible" road QBs in the NFL then I'd hate to imagine what Matt Cassel is in terms of road QBs.

Matt threw 6 TD and 6 INT in 4 road games last year....and averaged an impressive 181 ypg.

Of course Matt will be at home in Week 1...where he averaged 197 ypg and had 4 TD in 5 games....

mcaj22 07-04-2012 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8717888)
Matt threw 6 TD and 6 INT in 4 road games last year....and averaged an impressive 181 ypg.

Of course Matt will be at home in Week 1...where he averaged 197 ypg and had 4 TD in 5 games....


so if Matt Ryan is a "TERRIBLE road QB" then I guess it's safe to say that Matt Cassel sets the bar for "TERRIBLE home QB"

BossChief 07-04-2012 01:50 AM

I worded that poorly.

I meant to say he is a terrible road qb in comparison to his production as a home qb.

I posted that stats of home vs away the other day and they are astoundingly different.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 01:51 AM

at least cassel is consistent at home or on the road we know we will see 3-7 25 yards by halftime and maybe a pick

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8717892)
I worded that poorly.

I meant to say he is a terrible road qb in comparison to him as a home qb.

I posted that stats of home vs away the other day and they as astoundingly different.

A QB PLAYS WORSE ON THE ROAD THAN AT HOME

OMG

SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT

You know what would suck? A full season of "Matt Ryan Road Games."

That would be a shitty 4,800 yards, 24 TD and 14 INT.

BossChief 07-04-2012 01:54 AM

Cassel is equally as terrible at home or on the road.

Matt Ryan is borderline unstoppable at home, but his efficiency drops off the map when he leaves Atlanta.

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 01:55 AM

300 yards a game just sucks.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 01:55 AM

so it's a moot point because either way Cassel sucks while Matt Ryan just drops off a little on the road.

BossChief 07-04-2012 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8717895)
A QB PLAYS WORSE ON THE ROAD THAN AT HOME

OMG

SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT

You know what would suck? A full season of "Matt Ryan Road Games."

That would be a shitty 4,800 yards, 24 TD and 14 INT.

Give me a ****ing break.

The guys completion % drops almost 10 points when he leaves Atlanta.

He has those yards because he is throwing from behind.

It's like saying Cassel had a good game against Denver when he threw for 400 yards.

BossChief 07-04-2012 01:59 AM

@chi 319 yards ...his team scored 12 points

BossChief 07-04-2012 02:00 AM

@tb 330 yards....his team scored 13 pts

@ Houston 267 yards...scored 10 pts

@NO 373 yards...scored 16pts

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8717901)
Give me a ****ing break.

The guys completion % drops almost 10 points when he leaves Atlanta.

He has those yards because he is throwing from behind.

It's like saying Cassel had a good game against Denver when he threw for 400 yards.

Cassel was one game.

AVERAGING 300 yards per game is no joke and is the sign of a good player.

Pretty much EVERY QB in the league shows a drop in numbers on the road.

Matt Ryan's road stats last year were pretty much the same as Eli Mannings.

And his completion percentage drops 5.8 points, not 10.

You made a bullshit point, man.

He's good enough to **** our ass hard at Arrowhead.

BossChief 07-04-2012 02:04 AM

Home rating 102.9
Away 84.6

BossChief 07-04-2012 02:05 AM

On grass 55% completions

BossChief 07-04-2012 02:06 AM

Home 17td 5int
Away 12td 7int

BossChief 07-04-2012 02:09 AM

Home yards passing 1784 w/l record 6-2
Away yards passing 2393 w/l record 4-4

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 02:10 AM

LMAO

If Matt Ryan throws for 300 yards at Arrowhead, I bet we lose.

You silly sod.

BossChief 07-04-2012 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8717906)
On grass 55% completions

Home completion % 64.6

Almost 10 points

BossChief 07-04-2012 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8717909)
LMAO

If Matt Ryan throws for 300 yards at Arrowhead, I bet we lose.

You silly sod.

I hope to god Hali and Houston get that many chances to rush Ryan at Arrowhead.

That might end in a sack strip or two and a couple picks.

That's our only chance to win, silly.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 02:20 AM

see the difference is, us Chiefs fans have to depend on positional talent to play out of their minds, like Hali and Houston. Atlanta fans get to depend on their QB throwing a consistent 300 yard game and hoping the positional talent shows up/compliments him.

Must be nice.

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8717910)
Home completion % 64.6

Almost 10 points

Every field is grass you ninny.

There are no astroturf fields anymore.

BossChief 07-04-2012 02:34 AM

Every split stat site shows Ryan played 12 games on field turf last year and 4 on grass.

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 02:43 AM

FIELD TURF IS GRASS.

IT'S ALL THE SAME SHIT.

BossChief 07-04-2012 02:50 AM

Ok, let me put it this way...

In games where Matt Ryan has played outside and on regular grass (like the situation he will face on 9/9 at AH) he is a 55% passer and that drops even lower when the temp is over 81 degrees.

There is a good chance that our defense has an outstanding game against him and that we win IF CASSEL CAN PLAY LIKE AN AVERAGE GAME MANAGER.

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 02:55 AM

300 YARDS BABY

CanadianChief 07-04-2012 05:21 AM

We're gonna run the ball and score 8 rushing TD's on them!!!!!

To be more specific 4 by McCluster and 4 by Matt "Damon" Cassel.

Rausch 07-04-2012 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8716739)
We all know this team traditionally starts off slow to open the season.
Brian Daboll is key to this team succeeding this season.
If he can help the offense avoid a slow start we might actually contend for the division title.

If you were him...
What would be your gameplan against the Falcons in Game 1?

Rest Charles as much as possible and lean on Hillis...

Pasta Little Brioni 07-04-2012 08:52 AM

Have Toad King predict they lose

Pasta Little Brioni 07-04-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8717903)
@tb 330 yards....his team scored 13 pts

@ Houston 267 yards...scored 10 pts

@NO 373 yards...scored 16pts

But, but, but, THE YARDS!!!!!!!!!!

Micjones 07-04-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8717971)
Rest Charles as much as possible and lean on Hillis...

Don't forget about Gray. That kid will contribute.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-04-2012 09:04 AM

Just lay down and give up. Don't even try!!


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