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Quesadilla Joe 07-05-2012 08:47 PM

Athlon Sports QB Power Rankings
 


2012 NFL Quarterbacks: Ranking the Best and Worst Starters


Ranking NFL quarterbacks is difficult and the criterion endless.

Montana versus Johnny-U versus Elway versus Favre? Is winning championships all that matters? What about statistical production and re-writing the record books? What about pure, raw, God-given athletic ability (looking at you Elway)? Or are intangibles and leadership ability more important?

To truly and objectively rank quarterbacks all of the above must be used to evaluate a player. I have attempted to rank all 32 starting quarterbacks in the NFL season for the 2012 year. This means, I don’t get a 22-year-old Peyton Manning or a 32-year-old Cam Newton.

So I put my general manager's hat on and asked this question:

If my goal is to win the Lombardi Trophy in 2012, who do I want running my offense?

Note: Age is at time of start of 2012 season

1. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay (Age: 28, Record: 41-21)
2011 Stats: 4,643 yards, 45 TD, 6 INT, 257 rush yards, 3 TD

There is little debate on who is the best quarterback on the planet right now. Rodgers came close to multiple single-season NFL records in 2011 until sitting out the final game of the year. Nevertheless, his 122.5 QB rating broke an NFL record and his career 104.1 QB rating is the highest in the history of the sport. He has the arm strength, the athleticism, the leadership, the championship ring and is only 28 years old.

2. Tom Brady, New England (Age: 35, Record: 124-35)
2011 Stats: 5,235 yards, 39 TD, 12 INT, 109 rush yards, 3 TD

The starting record is staggering as Mr. GQ enters his 13th NFL season. He has led the Patriots to five Super Bowls, an undefeated regular season and has turned plenty of also-ran wide receivers into Super Bowl MVPs. He would have shattered Dan Marino’s single-season passing yards record last fall had it not been for Drew Brees, and is the only QB to ever throw 50 touchdowns in a season (2007). Needless to say, Brady still has what it takes to be the best despite turning 35 in August.

3. Drew Brees, New Orleans (Age: 33, Record: 92-61)
2011 Stats: 5,476 yards, 46 TD, 14 INT, 86 rush yards, TD

His yardage total from last year speaks for itself. The Austin (Texas) Westlake product has led the NFL in completion percentage three years running and the has led the league in yards and touchdowns three times each. He has the championship ring and leadership skills to overcome his overall lack of raw physical skills (he is listed generously at 6-foot).

4. Eli Manning, New York Giants (Age: 31, Record: 69-50)
2011 Stats: 4,933 yards, 29 TD, 16 INT, 15 rush yards, TD

He has not been doing it as long or at high a level as his older brother, but Eli is the defending Super Bowl champion – for a second time. He set a career high in yards last fall by nearly 1,000 yards and has proven to be as clutch as any player in the playoffs. When he finally learns to cut down on his interceptions, he could easily find himself atop this list. Additionally, he hasn’t missed a start since taking over as the Giants starter in Week 10 of 2004 — that is 119 straight regular-season starts if you are counting at home.

5. Peyton Manning, Denver (Age: 36, Record: 141-67)
2011 Stats: None

If not for four (that we know of) neck surgeries and a new area code, the elder Manning would be no lower than No. 2 on this list. But there are still question marks surrounding No. 18’s ability to return to his Hall of Fame effectiveness. If he returns to full health, even at 36 years old, he is securely in the Top 3.

6. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh (Age: 30, Record: 80-33)
2011 Stats: 4,077 yards, 21 TD, 14 INT, 70 rush yards

Big Ben is an interesting case study as there feels like a clear drop-off after the Top 5. Statistically, he has never been one of the league’s elite passers, topping 20 touchdowns only three times with only one season of at least 30 scoring strikes. He has also missed five games over the last three years and has only started all 16 games in a year one time (2008). That said, he also is as tough a customer as there is in the game today and has two World Championships to prove it. Oh yeah, he also has won more than 70 percent of his games to this point.

7. Matthew Stafford, Detroit (Age: 24, Record: 13-16)
2011 Stats: 5,038 yards, 41 TD, 16 INT, 78 rush yards

The word projection comes to mind when trying to place Stafford. There are few quarterbacks with as much physical talent as the former Georgia Bulldog and he likely has the biggest arm in the game today. He also has played one full season as a starter — one that saw the Lions make the playoffs for the first time since 1999 and was littered with passing and receiving team records. Health is really the only issue surrounding the Lions passer, as he played only 13 of his first 32 possible games before last year's breakout performance.

8. Tony Romo, Dallas (Age: 32, Record: 47-30)
2011 Stats: 4,184 yards, 31 TD, 10 INT, 46 rush yards, TD

Few players are more scrutinized in football than Romo. But after missing most of the 2010 season, he did his best to lead a team that lacked depth and had changed coaches to within one win of the NFC East crown. He posted his best statistical year last fall and feels like a young 32 — having begun his starting career at age 26 back in 2006. He is a classic overachiever, but is as tough as they come and is a quality leader. He needs to add to his one career playoff win to move up this list, however.

9. Philip Rivers, San Diego (Age: 30, Record: 63-33)
2011 Stats: 4,624 yards, 27 TD, 20 INT, 36 rush yards, TD

The word knucklehead quickly crops up when talking about Mr. Rivers. He constantly runs his mouth and sometimes his temper can get the best of him. But he also produces big numbers — four straight seasons above 4,000 yards — and wins a lot of games — he made the playoffs in each of his first four seasons as the starter. Yet, he has never been able to get his very talented teams into the big game and turned the ball over 25 times last fall. A return to the postseason this fall cements Rivers as one of the league’s top 10 signal callers.

10. Matt Ryan, Atlanta (Age: 27, Record: 43-19)
2011 Stats: 4,177 yards, 29 TD, 12 INT, 84 rush yards, 2 TD

When it comes to the NFL’s best it feels like Ryan is consistently overlooked. But his numbers play on any roster and his win-loss record is pristine. He has never had a losing season and has only missed the postseason once (at 10-6 nonetheless). He has improved his touchdown total four straight seasons (16, 22, 28, 29) and has increased his yards three straight years. He is a consummate professional who quietly accounted for 31 total touchdowns a year ago. Ryan has missed two games in his career and is about to enter his prime.


15. Carson Palmer, Oakland (Age: 32, Record: 50-56)
2011 Stats: 2,753 yards, 13 TD, 16 INT, 20 rush yards, TD (9 games)

Not just anyone could walk into Cincinnati and turn the Bengals into a perennial playoff contender but that is essentially what the No. 1 overall pick did in 2003. Cincy lost at least 10 games in five straight seasons before drafting Palmer. By 2005, the Bengals had their first winning season since 1988. In fact, Cincy has three postseason appearances since 1990 and two have come on the strong right arm of Palmer. After a brief six-game hiatus, all he did last year in Oakland (for a lame duck coach) was post his highest yards-per-game total of his career (275.3 ypg). At 32 years old, he still has plenty left in the 6-foot-5, 235-pound tank.



31. Matt Cassel, Kansas City (Age: 30, Record: 28-26)
2011 Stats: 1,713 yards, 10 TD, 9 INT, 99 rush yards (9 games)

The story is well-known: Cassel didn’t start a game at USC, sat behind Brady, went 10-5 when called upon in New England and parlayed one year into a big contract. Yet, he is a career 59.0 percent passer, is 18-21 as the Chiefs' starter with 32 interceptions and 22 fumbles over that span and has had major injury issues. Cassel has one more year to prove he is the franchise quarterback in KC


http://www.athlonsports.com/nfl/rank...rterbacks-2012

The rest is at the link, too many characters to post the entire thing.

Okie_Apparition 07-05-2012 08:49 PM

That jaguars dude
is my guess

O.city 07-05-2012 08:53 PM

I wish we could just throw a bunch of draft picks at NO for Drew Brees.

Hammock Parties 07-05-2012 08:55 PM

What did Intel Pentium Sports say?

Tombstone RJ 07-05-2012 08:57 PM

hey, Cassel made the top 31 so he's got that going for him...

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 09:01 PM

shEli's way too high at #4.
I might put him in the lower top 10
The Giant's have had a dominant defense in the year he's won the SB. Trent Dilfer never made to top 15. It must be nice having a famous big brother.

Hammock Parties 07-05-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721151)
shEli's way too high at #4.
I might put him in the lower top 10
The Giant's have had a dominant defense in the year he's won the SB. Trent Dilfer never made to top 15. It must be nice having a famous big brother.

Last year the Giants had a terrible defense, terrible run game.

Eli threw for 5,000 yards.

U mad?

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721151)
shEli's way too high at #4.
I might put him in the lower top 10
The Giant's have had a dominant defense in the year he's won the SB. Trent Dilfer never made to top 15. It must be nice having a famous big brother.

:spock:

Dumbass

Quesadilla Joe 07-05-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721151)
shEli's way too high at #4.
I might put him in the lower top 10
The Giant's have had a dominant defense in the year he's won the SB. Trent Dilfer never made to top 15. It must be nice having a famous big brother.

I think Eli is the most overrated QB in the NFL. He is also the luckiest QB in the NFL (Tyree, Manningham, 49er fumbles). He's not a bad QB, he just isn't Tom Brady, Brees, Peyton, etc.

Hammock Parties 07-05-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8721171)
I think Eli is the most overrated QB in the NFL. He is also the luckiest QB in the NFL (Tyree, Manningham, 49er fumbles). He's not a bad QB, he just isn't Tom Brady, Brees, Peyton, etc.

#32 running game
#27 defense

WINS SUPER BOWL

"lucky"

stonedstooge 07-05-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8721171)
I think Eli is the most overrated QB in the NFL. He is also the luckiest QB in the NFL (Tyree, Manningham, 49er fumbles). He's not a bad QB, he just isn't Tom Brady, Brees, Peyton, etc.

I believe that would be number 5 on the list, not Eli.

Mr_Tomahawk 07-05-2012 09:06 PM

Ground-breaking news here...

notorious 07-05-2012 09:07 PM

Shocked.

CoMoChief 07-05-2012 09:07 PM

Cassel has the ability to be about the 20th best.

But as of now.....There are maybe a couple/few current starters in the NFL that are worse than Cassel. So I in a lot of ways agree w/ this ranking.

Quesadilla Joe 07-05-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8721177)
#32 running game
#27 defense

WINS SUPER BOWL

"lucky"

You have to admit that he has had a lot of fluky plays go his way. I have made the comparison before, but I think he is a more fortunate version of Tony Romo. Good players. Franchise QB's. But they aren't top 5.

Hammock Parties 07-05-2012 09:09 PM

Eli made that play happen by escaping the rush.

And he threw a perfect pass to Mario Manningham.

WhiteWhale 07-05-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721151)
shEli's way too high at #4.
I might put him in the lower top 10
The Giant's have had a dominant defense in the year he's won the SB. Trent Dilfer never made to top 15. It must be nice having a famous big brother.

That's ridiculous. Eli is a damn good QB.

Eli Manning has thrown for 4000+ yards three years in a row. He's had 20+ TD's and over 3000 yards every season he's been a full time starter.

Trent Dilfer never had a 3,000 yard season in his career.

I'd argue the ONLY reason people act like he sucks is BECAUSE he's Peyton Manning's brother.

Mr_Tomahawk 07-05-2012 09:10 PM

One chokes....and the other gets lucky in playoffs.

To be a Manning...

CoMoChief 07-05-2012 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8721171)
I think Eli is the most overrated QB in the NFL. He is also the luckiest QB in the NFL (Tyree, Manningham, 49er fumbles). He's not a bad QB, he just isn't Tom Brady, Brees, Peyton, etc.

The problem w/ Eli is just that....he's Eli Manning, brother of Peyton, one of the best 5 QB's to ever play the game. And even though Eli has more SB wins, 90 out of 100 people would take Peyton over Eli any day of the week, so he's not considered "elite" like Peyton is/has been all of these years.

notorious 07-05-2012 09:12 PM

I wish we had a lucky QB.


Elway got lucky all of the time. He got lucky so often somebody might actually think he had talent.

Mr_Tomahawk 07-05-2012 09:12 PM

Eli is clutch in the playoffs.

Peyton...is not.

notorious 07-05-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8721202)
The problem w/ Eli is just that....he's Eli Manning, brother of Peyton, one of the best 5 QB's to ever play the game. And even though Eli has more SB wins, 90 out of 100 people would take Peyton over Eli any day of the week, so he's not considered "elite" like Peyton is/has been all of these years.

He doesn't put on a huge audible show before each snap.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8721171)
I think Eli is the most overrated QB in the NFL. He is also the luckiest QB in the NFL (Tyree, Manningham, 49er fumbles). He's not a bad QB, he just isn't Tom Brady, Brees, Peyton, etc.

ROFL

You continue to prove, with every post, what a moron you truly are.

Mr_Tomahawk 07-05-2012 09:16 PM


Gadzooks 07-05-2012 09:17 PM

I don't get why so many of you guys have a hard on for Eli, yet you wouldn't suck Dilfer's dick if he begged you, (Dave might though).

Chiefs Pantalones 07-05-2012 09:20 PM

I think by now everyone knows Cassel is worthless. It's no secret, even to the Chiefs. It's just a matter of finding his replacement in the near future, hopefully via draft.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721231)
I don't get why so many of you guys have a hard on for Eli, yet you wouldn't suck Dilfer's dick if he begged you, (Dave might though).

More dumbassery...

Ebolapox 07-05-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8721208)
I wish we had a lucky QB.

...

our QB is lucky that pioli is our GM. our QB is lucky to have a starting job. our QB is lucky that he ever completes a pass. our QB is lucky that we drafted bernard pollard. our QB is lucky that he doesn't run into a burning AIDS tree daily.

he's just unlucky for us.

KCrockaholic 07-05-2012 09:20 PM

Peyton is majorly over rated. Out of football for a year. 4 neck surgeries. New team. He's a top 15 QB. But not even top 10.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-05-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721231)
I don't get why so many of you guys have a hard on for Eli, yet you wouldn't suck Dilfer's dick if he begged you, (Dave might though).

Eli and Dilfer aren't even in the same zipcode when discussing QBs. Eli is a franchise QB, Dilfer was not. Dilfer and Johnson were the last game managers to win a Super Bowl and the way the game is played now they were probably the last EVER.

Tombstone RJ 07-05-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8721177)
#32 running game
#27 defense

WINS SUPER BOWL

"lucky"

I'm not a Giants apologist but that defense really stepped it up in the playoffs. Good teams play their best football in the playoffs and while this Giants team had very average regular season numbers, they played big when it mattered the most.

Love the fact they beat the pats again. The pats can eat it.

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8721239)
More dumbassery...

Are you 6?
"Dumbass" only works for Milkman and at least he tries to explain it. (He's often wrong though).
Your lack of a valid argument makes me question your mental capacity.

kysirsoze 07-05-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721231)
I don't get why so many of you guys have a hard on for Eli, yet you wouldn't suck Dilfer's dick if he begged you, (Dave might though).

Somebody's just butthurt. Eli is great. He's been the biggest reason his team came through in the Superbowl, TWICE. He's not the most gifted physically and he isn't the best passer. He just has icewater running in his veins. Comparing him to Dilfer is a total joke.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-05-2012 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8721193)
Eli made that play happen by escaping the rush.

And he threw a perfect pass to Mario Manningham.

That was one of the best passes I have ever seen. Perfect.

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8721259)
Eli and Dilfer aren't even in the same zipcode when discussing QBs. Eli is a franchise QB, Dilfer was not. Dilfer and Johnson were the last game managers to win a Super Bowl and the way the game is played now they were probably the last EVER.

But to put him at 4 is too high. Rivers is an example of QB who has better stats than Eli over the past 6 years. Roethlisbeger has the same amount of rings but they weren't as recent, so he's below Eli.
I'll put him in the lower half of the top ten but 4 is too high in my books.

RealSNR 07-05-2012 09:31 PM

Some really weird rankings in the middle there. Vick is way too low, Flacco is way too high, Fitzpatrick is WAY too high. But they got the beginning and endings almost spot on. I'd probably swap Roethlisberger and Peyton.

Bump 07-05-2012 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8721171)
I think Eli is the most overrated QB in the NFL. He is also the luckiest QB in the NFL (Tyree, Manningham, 49er fumbles). He's not a bad QB, he just isn't Tom Brady, Brees, Peyton, etc.

JFC

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8721268)
Somebody's just butthurt. Eli is great. He's been the biggest reason his team came through in the Superbowl, TWICE. He's not the most gifted physically and he isn't the best passer. He just has icewater running in his veins. Comparing him to Dilfer is a total joke.

I'm comparing the fact that the Defense is what carried the team. The same can be said for Roethlisberger's first SB, Dilfer, etc...
People seem to forget this is a team sport.
Do you think Roethlisberger would have won if he was on the Giants this year? I do and I don't think it would have been as close, (and I don't even like Roethlisberger).

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721267)
Are you 6?
"Dumbass" only works for Milkman and at least he tries to explain it. (He's often wrong though).
Your lack of a valid argument makes me question your mental capacity.

I'm not getting into this with you because you're a troll or a moron.

You're bringing up Dilfer into this. That only leads me to 2 conclusions that I already mentioned.

Hammock Parties 07-05-2012 09:35 PM

The Giants defense sucked last year, bro.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-05-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721282)
But to put him at 4 is too high. Rivers is an example of QB who has better stats than Eli over the past 6 years. Roethlisbeger has the same amount of rings but they weren't as recent, so he's below Eli.
I'll put him in the lower half of the top ten but 4 is too high in my books.

They are all the same to me man. Rivers, Brees, Eli, Brady, etc. They are all great QBs. I'm not picky. I'd take any in a heartbeat.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721301)
I'm comparing the fact that the Defense is what carried the team. The same can be said for Roethlisberger's first SB, Dilfer, etc...
People seem to forget this is a team sport.
Do you think Roethlisberger would have won if he was on the Giants this year? I do and I don't think it would have been as close, (and I don't even like Roethlisberger).

Did you know that NY had the worst rushing offense last season?

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2012 09:38 PM

Bolt fan is bitter because Eli spurned them.

Bump 07-05-2012 09:38 PM

Eli is clutch as ****. 2, TWO last minute Superbowl winning drives. JFC, he's def, most def, 100% top 5. A true Elite QB. He can throw the ball as nice as just about anyone. 2 Superbowl MVP's. Dilfer wasn't the superbowl MVP and neither was Brad Johnson. JFC these people can't be serious and I'm eating troll bait.

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8721309)
Did you know that NY had the worst rushing offense last season?

Good job. you made a sentence. :clap:
The whole team was mediocre during the regular season and they nearly missed the playoffs.
Their D picked it up big time and Eli made some clutch plays but putting him that high when looking at the QBs below him might make you wonder if one of them could have done a better job under the same circumstances. Take Vick, as just one example.

Pablo 07-05-2012 09:44 PM

Yeah, that Eli guy blows dog dicks. Only two rings. NOT. GOOD. ENOUGH.

Hammock Parties 07-05-2012 09:45 PM

Eli was mediocre throwing for 5,000 yards?

Their league-worst running game and defense were mediocre?

What?

Eli averaged 305 yards a game in the postseason. 9 TD, 1 INT. Threw 160 passes in 4 games.

Yeah, Eli was carried by his defense.

Bump 07-05-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8721337)
Eli was mediocre throwing for 5,000 yards?

Their league-worst running game and defense were mediocre?

What?

CP never would have drafted Mathew Stafford, remember? And Cam Newton was a complete joke at #1 overall. Lol, there are plenty more I'm sure.

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8721304)
They are all the same to me man. Rivers, Brees, Eli, Brady, etc. They are all great QBs. I'm not picky. I'd take any in a heartbeat.

Over Cassel? Really?

Pablo 07-05-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8721337)
Eli was mediocre throwing for 5,000 yards?

Their league-worst running game and defense were mediocre?

What?

Chargers fans don't actually understand football or how to watch it.

They just stare blankly at the TV and wonder why these volleyball players are wearing helmets and pads.

Quesadilla Joe 07-05-2012 09:49 PM

I will admit Eli is clutch. He had a game winning TD drive to beat the Donks his first or second year in the league that left me scratching my head. He looked awful the entire game and then turned it on right at the end.

I think he is good and wouldn't argue too much if you wanted to put him at 5, I just think there is a significant gap between the top 4 QB's and the next three or four QB's.


My top 4 in no specific order is Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees.

Eli is in the group with Big Ben, Rivers, Romo, and Stafford.

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 8721332)
Yeah, that Eli guy blows dog dicks. Only two rings. NOT. GOOD. ENOUGH.

There are many bench warmers who have 3 rings. Marino has zero

Chiefs Pantalones 07-05-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721341)
Over Cassel? Really?

Wanna trade Rivers for Cassel? Please? Pretty please? :)

Bugeater 07-05-2012 09:53 PM

Guess I need to click the link and see who's the sorry sack of crap that's rated lower than Cassel.

el borracho 07-05-2012 09:56 PM

How sad does it make you to realize that the Chiefs could have drafted the first three guys on that list?

007 07-05-2012 10:03 PM

"Major injury issues" Cassel? Last I checked, he had one injury in his NFL career.

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8721374)
"Major injury issues"? Cassel? Last I checked, he had one injury in his NFL career.

He was put on IR, so...

007 07-05-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721377)
He was put on IR, so...

That was a issue. Not issues. Plus, it was hardly major. He was put on IR because it was convenient.

BillSelfsTrophycase 07-05-2012 10:07 PM

So Matt Cassel sucks? Thanks, we had no idea

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8721378)
That was a issue. Not issues. Plus, it was hardly major. He was put on IR because it was convenient.

It's a bad sign when it's "convenient" to put you starting QB on IR.

007 07-05-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillSelfsTrophycase (Post 8721381)
So Matt Cassel sucks? Thanks, we had no idea

it was only a matter of time before yet another thread becomes a Cassel sucks thread. :LOL:

BillSelfsTrophycase 07-05-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8721387)
it was only a matter of time before yet another thread becomes a Cassel sucks thread. :LOL:


The truth will set you free :)

kysirsoze 07-05-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721349)
There are many bench warmers who have 3 rings. Marino has zero

I'm just gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is trolling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721385)
It's a bad sign when it's "convenient" to put you starting QB on IR.

It's a bad sign when Matt Cassel is your QB, period.

Gadzooks 07-05-2012 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8721422)
I'm just gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is trolling.



It's a bad sign when Matt Cassel is your QB, period.

How does one troll a Chiefs board by denoucing Eli's 4th place crown?

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2012 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721426)
How does one troll a Chiefs board by denoucing Eli's 4th place crown?

Thanks for admitting you're just an idiot then.

BossChief 07-05-2012 11:55 PM

I wonder how many more big games the Chargers would have won if they were able to keep Eli and hos dad didn't force that hand of poker.

I mean, Rivers is good...but it seems like his mouth writes checks his arm can't cash in big games.

Eli would have won a couple superbowls with the talent that team had IMO.

Phobia 07-06-2012 12:01 AM

How did Cassel make #31? Were backup QB's ineligible?

Thig Lyfe 07-06-2012 01:23 AM

Cassel MIGHT be the 31st best 3rd-string QB.

Thig Lyfe 07-06-2012 01:23 AM

because




















Matt Cassel sucks

R8RFAN 07-06-2012 01:32 AM

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WhiteWhale 07-06-2012 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721231)
I don't get why so many of you guys have a hard on for Eli, yet you wouldn't suck Dilfer's dick if he begged you, (Dave might though).

That's because this is Trent Dilfer

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...D/DilfTr00.htm

This is Eli Manning

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/MannEl00.htm

The only comparison is in your brain. You're comparing a below average QB to a good Qb.

I'll assume you're just trolling and not actually this stupid.

Bob Dole 07-06-2012 06:26 AM

Tony Romo. The greatest QB to never win a thing.
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Deberg_1990 07-06-2012 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8721151)
shEli's way too high at #4.
I might put him in the lower top 10
The Giant's have had a dominant defense in the year he's won the SB. Trent Dilfer never made to top 15. It must be nice having a famous big brother.

Hes average to above average during the regular season. Hes NAILS in the playoffs when it truly matters.

Hes easily a top 5 QB.

Chiefnj2 07-06-2012 07:25 AM

Eli carried the Giants last year. If you watched any Giant games you could see it.

BoneKrusher 07-06-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8721209)
Eli is clutch in the playoffs.

Peyton...is not.

Yep.

and Cassel should be # 32.

JD10367 07-06-2012 08:23 AM

Not sure I'd put Wheedon above Cassel. Really, he hasn't even taken a snap in the NFL yet. Cassel should be higher, somewhere between #27 and #31.

And as I type that, I realize how still-pathetic that is.

Hammock Parties 07-06-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8721761)
Not sure I'd put Wheedon above Cassel. Really, he hasn't even taken a snap in the NFL yet. Cassel should be higher, somewhere between #27 and #31.

And as I type that, I realize how still-pathetic that is.

Thanks for hooking us up with Pioli and his piece of shit son.

JD10367 07-06-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8721774)
Thanks for hooking us up with Pioli and his piece of shit son.

"Your anger feeds the dark side of the Force." LMAO

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...789409f2c3.jpg

Hammock Parties 07-06-2012 08:40 AM

The joke will be on you when Pioli returns to New England and throws Belichick off The Razor.

BoneKrusher 07-06-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8721780)
"Your anger feeds the dark side of the Force." LMAO

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...789409f2c3.jpg

the force is with us.


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