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ChiefRocka 08-12-2012 08:49 AM

Bottom of the Barrel assesments?
 
What are your takes on the following guys:

Bellamy
Studebaker
Harris
Daniels
Bannon
Reeves
Mimms
Powe

aturnis 08-12-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 8811109)
What are your takes on the following guys:

Bellamy - probably practice squad
Studebaker - I think he should be cut, the Chiefs probably think he's valuable in the classroom or something.
Harris - has yet to do anything, haven't heard a word about from camp, might go.
Daniels - bottom of the barrel? One of our best db's off the bench. Lock.
Bannon - gonesky, too slow to matter.
Reeves - please, he's gone, too much talent in our secondary.
Mimms - probably keep him. Even though both Stevenson & Allen can play left, we need a backup at right.
Powe - Lock.

milkman 08-12-2012 09:33 AM

I haven't seen Friday's game yet, so this doesn't have anythin really to do with the OP, but I am really beginning to believe that by this time next season, Torribio and Powe will still be the primary rotation at NT, while Poe will be the starter at Dorsey's spot when Dorsey is allowed to walk in free agency.

Poe will play the NGata role in this defense, lining up at DE in standard packages, and in the middle in sub packages.

Akron's#1ChiefsFan 08-12-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8811164)
Bellamy - probably practice squad
Studebaker - I think he should be cut, the Chiefs probably think he's valuable in the classroom or something.
Harris - has yet to do anything, haven't heard a word about from camp, might go.
Daniels - bottom of the barrel? One of our best db's off the bench. Lock.
Bannon - gonesky, too slow to matter.
Reeves - please, he's gone, too much talent in our secondary.
Mimms - probably keep him. Even though both Stevenson & Allen can play left, we need a backup at right.
Powe - Lock.

I like Studebaker. He's not a starting caliber guy, but he's serviceable, and he has a motor that doesn't quit. Powe looked good in the first fake game, so yeah, lock there. The rest of them I'm not too concerned with.

milkman 08-12-2012 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Akron's#1ChiefsFan (Post 8811203)
I like Studebaker. He's not a starting caliber guy, but he's serviceable, and he has a motor that doesn't quit. Powe looked good in the first fake game, so yeah, lock there. The rest of them I'm not too concerned with.

Studebaker is just a guy.

The sooner he's replaced by someone that actually has talent, the better.

Rausch 08-12-2012 09:47 AM

Oh, yeah, NOW everyone loves the POWE.

Step off my boy...

Hammock Parties 08-12-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8811179)
I haven't seen Friday's game yet, so this doesn't have anythin really to do with the OP, but I am really beginning to believe that by this time next season, Torribio and Powe will still be the primary rotation at NT, while Poe will be the starter at Dorsey's spot when Dorsey is allowed to walk in free agency.

Poe will play the NGata role in this defense, lining up at DE in standard packages, and in the middle in sub packages.

Probably gives us a better pass rush on first and second down.

Hopefully, anyway.

RealSNR 08-12-2012 09:49 AM

Mims is pretty good and showed fantastic protection skills in the Arizona game.

Mimms sucks dick

Marcellus 08-12-2012 09:49 AM

I am always shocked when Daniels contribution t the team are questioned. He may not be a 1 or 2 but he is very good depth.

aturnis 08-12-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8811210)
Studebaker is just a guy.

The sooner he's replaced by someone that actually has talent, the better.

This. While he is a heady player, knowing where to be, he still isn't very good in coverage. Can't seal the edge and can't shed blocks consistently in run defense. Almost never gets pressure when player with starters, he's gotta be replaced. Again, I think they must like what he brings in the classroom.

RealSNR 08-12-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8811228)
I am always shocked when Daniels contribution t the team are questioned. He may not be a 1 or 2 but he is very good depth.

Yep.

"Bottom of the barrell" my asshole

Rausch 08-12-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8811225)
Mims is pretty good and showed fantastic protection skills in the Arizona game.

Mimms sucks dick

...

http://antonvandenberg.files.wordpre...fused_baby.jpg

aturnis 08-12-2012 10:01 AM

That's one cockey-assed baby!

Rausch 08-12-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8811266)
That's one cockey-assed baby!

We're friends on facebook.

Don't make him come at you bro'...

mcaj22 08-12-2012 10:14 AM

YOU FORGET MY MAN JAKE O CONNELL

that's as bottom of the barrel as we get!

O.city 08-12-2012 10:16 AM

Someone we haven't really talked about is Sheffield. He looked really good the other night rushing the passer.


If he turns out to be decent, and the Jones? guy is decent the passrush could be pretty solid.

Rausch 08-12-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8811293)
YOU FORGET MY MAN JAKE O CONNELL

that's as bottom of the barrel as we get!

That's why you spray out the barrel at the bottom with a high pressure hose...

Buehler445 08-12-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8811293)
YOU FORGET MY MAN JAKE O CONNELL

that's as bottom of the barrel as we get!

Hopefully Steve Maneri makes him lick his asshole on the way out.

Rausch 08-12-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8811298)
Someone we haven't really talked about is Sheffield. He looked really good the other night rushing the passer.


If he turns out to be decent, and the Jones? guy is decent the passrush could be pretty solid.

I was impresse by Siler (sp?)

When he was in the game he got pressure, played aggressive, and made tackles.

Most importantly they gave him that look after the play like "what you think?"

I think he'd be the perfect fit as our 2nd ILB...

TLO 08-12-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8811314)
I was impresse by Siler (sp?)

When he was in the game he got pressure, played aggressive, and made tackles.

Most importantly they gave him that look after the play like "what you think?"

I think he'd be the perfect fit as our 2nd ILB...

I'd like to see him unseat Belcher.

milkman 08-12-2012 10:39 AM

I just don't get the hate for Belcher.

Has he overshot a couple of sacks the last couple of years?

Sure.

But there isn't a single player that has done more over the last couple of years to free up DJ to become the playmaker he has become.

Belcher does the dirty work that no one is is capable of doing, and he still managed to finish second in tackles to DJ last year.

Most undervalued, underappreciated player on this team, and it ain't even close.

mcaj22 08-12-2012 10:50 AM

so let me get this straight, you want THIS GUY (ignore the Cro arrow and watch the guy that gets completely blown out of the play lol) to replace Belcher?

funny joke

http://i45.tinypic.com/5kkln4.jpg

The Franchise 08-12-2012 10:51 AM

I'd rather have Gabe Miller instead of Studebaker.

Shaid 08-12-2012 10:52 AM

Daniels is ok back-up.
Studebacker is decent but when you consider how strong our LB's are starting to look, he starts to fall off quite a bit.
I like Mims - the guy came in so raw but he has massive potential. I'd really like them to keep him
Powe played well so I'd like to keep him as well. Although Toribio is light years ahead of our other 2 NTs right now.

Shaid 08-12-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8811334)
I just don't get the hate for Belcher.

Has he overshot a couple of sacks the last couple of years?

Sure.

But there isn't a single player that has done more over the last couple of years to free up DJ to become the playmaker he has become.

Belcher does the dirty work that no one is is capable of doing, and he still managed to finish second in tackles to DJ last year.

Most undervalued, underappreciated player on this team, and it ain't even close.

I love Belcher, started to a couple preseasons ago when he really started to flash. He's not a pass defending guy but he's sound in run defense.

aturnis 08-12-2012 11:21 AM

Problem most idiots who think Siler should/will replace Belcher don't see is, Belcher is the QB of the defense, making all the calls. Siler would have to do that, and do it very well to unseat Belcher. Not to mention play better, which I don't think he is good enough to do...

RealSNR 08-12-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8811408)
Problem most idiots who think Siler should/will replace Belcher don't see is, Belcher is the QB of the defense, making all the calls. Siler would have to do that, and do it very well to unseat Belcher. Not to mention play better, which I don't think he is good enough to do...

I love Belcher and think he's a LOT better than Siler. But Romeo did mention that he's the kind of player that will need to be in and out depending on the down, distance, and situation. Again, words from the coach. I don't know if that means Romeo doesn't think Belcher can take the next step to be the all-purpose kind of LB who can cover if we need him to cover. But we'll see.


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