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Direckshun 08-19-2012 10:52 PM

Late night bullshit: your 2013 FAs
 
QB Brady Quinn
RB Peyton Hillis
WR Dwayne Bowe
TE Steve Maneri
TE Jake O'Connell
OT Brandon Albert
OG Ryan Lilja
OG Darryl Harris
C Lucas Patterson
NT Anthony Toribio
DE Glenn Dorsey
DE Ropati Pitoitua
ILB Jovan Belcher
ILB Brandon Siler
CB Travis Daniels
P Dustin Colquitt
LS Thomas Gafford

Plus Tyson Jackson is headed for a $14 million year.

What do you do?

What doooooooooo you do?

Direckshun 08-19-2012 10:55 PM

Extend during the season:

Belcher, Albert, Colquitt, Jackson

Wait until free agency, make your best offer and see what happens:

Dorsey, Hillis, Gafford

Re-up for another year:

Maneri, Patterson, Daniels, Pitoitua

Let 'em go:

Quinn, O'Connell, Lilja, Harris, Toribio, Siler

Franchise:

Bowe

Direckshun 08-19-2012 10:57 PM

What are you losing if you let those guys go?

You draft for a franchise QB hopefully, so there's no need for Quinn. You hopefully spend a mid-rounder or two on OL. And invest in ILBs in the draft.

CaliforniaChief 08-19-2012 10:57 PM

If they have to franchise Bowe again, then I would say it's probably time to explore a trade. Hopefully they are able to reach an extension at the end of the season.

RealSNR 08-19-2012 10:58 PM

Albert, Bowe, and Colquitt are our top priorities.

Everything else don't care. Just don't do anything stupid like let Brandon Carr walk.

Dr. Johnny Fever 08-19-2012 10:58 PM

I re-sign Toribio and Gafford and let the rest go.












Levity people.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2012 10:58 PM

Willing to bet that if Dorsey is let go our run defense suffers horribly.

Setsuna 08-19-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8834374)
Albert, Bowe, and Colquitt are our top priorities.

Everything else don't care. Just don't do anything stupid like let Brandon Carr walk.

ROFL You are a joy. LMAO

Deberg_1990 08-19-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8834374)
Albert, Bowe, and Colquitt are our top priorities.

Everything else don't care. Just don't do anything stupid like let Brandon Carr walk.

Colquitt? Honestly, punters are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Discuss Thrower 08-19-2012 11:02 PM

Well... bye. /Pioli

CoMoChief 08-19-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8834374)
Albert, Bowe, and Colquitt are our top priorities.

Everything else don't care. Just don't do anything stupid like let Brandon Carr walk.

Dude.....Carr was going to be a Cowboy regardless of what Pioli was going to give, assuming it's not something that's crazy.

The Bad Guy 08-19-2012 11:15 PM

I'm not extending Belcher. I'm finding his replacement in the draft. Belcher is a complete liability in coverage.

mcaj22 08-19-2012 11:16 PM

they better ****ing sign Colquitt.

He has been the best player on this team for the last like 7 seasons. I am sure he will be the MVP again this year.

Direckshun 08-19-2012 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8834432)
I'm not extending Belcher. I'm finding his replacement in the draft. Belcher is a complete liability in coverage.

We probably wanted Kuechly.

The Bad Guy 08-19-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8834455)
We probably wanted Kuechly.

I would pretty much guarantee they wanted him.

Belcher is a good backup and good special teams thumper, but the guy is a 2 down linebacker in the NFL.

Raiderhater 08-20-2012 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8834371)
What are you losing if you let those guys go?

You draft for a franchise QB hopefully, so there's no need for Quinn. You hopefully spend a mid-rounder or two on OL. And invest in ILBs in the draft.


Not sure if serious?

bricks 08-20-2012 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8834432)
I'm not extending Belcher. I'm finding his replacement in the draft. Belcher is a complete liability in coverage.

Totally agree with this.

Titty Meat 08-20-2012 12:04 AM

I think it would be a mistake to do the wait and see with Dorsey. The guy is the Chiefs best d-linemen sure he's out of place but he's still very good.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-20-2012 12:48 AM

Long term deals during the season with Dorsey and Albert should be the main priority and Hillis also if he performs. Then everything else is manageable.

KCrockaholic 08-20-2012 01:20 AM

If you franchise Bowe again we are paying him about 12 million based on the new CBA rules.

Munson 08-20-2012 01:28 AM

Bowe is obviously the priority. If he ends up leaving, we damn well better get some high draft picks in return.

Albert is a middle of the road LT, but he's worth re-signing. No need to waste a top pick on a LT in next year's draft.

Hillis should be given a new contract. I have a feeling he's gonna have a real nice year, and make key plays throughout the season. But since he only signed a 1 year deal, he's probably looking to sign a big contract somewhere else next year.

DaneMcCloud 08-20-2012 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 8834648)

Albert is a middle of the road LT, but he's worth re-signing.

Name the 15 starters better than Albert and the 16 worse.

KCrockaholic 08-20-2012 01:44 AM

Last year Albert was arguably a top 10 LT. It would be wise to keep that around.

mcaj22 08-20-2012 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 8834648)
Bowe is obviously the priority. If he ends up leaving, we damn well better get some high draft picks in return.

Albert is a middle of the road LT, but he's worth re-signing. No need to waste a top pick on a LT in next year's draft.

Hillis should be given a new contract. I have a feeling he's gonna have a real nice year, and make key plays throughout the season. But since he only signed a 1 year deal, he's probably looking to sign a big contract somewhere else next year.

Albert is fringe top 5 LT definite top 10 you clownshoe

chiefzilla1501 08-20-2012 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8834378)
Willing to bet that if Dorsey is let go our run defense suffers horribly.

This is a position where I think the Chiefs have been preparing for his replacement. So I don't think this is going to hurt us as much.

Losing Albert will hurt a lot. Because we have to hope Stephenson is ready to step in right away. Either that or we'll have to overpay for another Left Tackle, who wasn't good enough to be a priority for another team.

mcaj22 08-20-2012 01:54 AM

i do find it hard to believe they get a long term deal done with Dorsey AND pay Jackson 14 million next year. So like 1/3 of the cap will be in 3 d-lineman. Not good.

Options are probably
Dorsey Walk-Keep Jackson
Dorsey Sign-Cut Jackson
Dorsey Sign-Jackson restructure (I doubt this)
The Dorsey Sign-Jackson 14 million just doesnt make sense cap wise, we will have absolutely nothing to spend in FA and people will piss and crap themselves over their FA wishlist when we go diving into the bottom of the barrel for the Bobby Engrams and Tony Ugohs.

saphojunkie 08-20-2012 01:55 AM

Extend Bowe, Albert, Colquitt in season.

Try to sign toribio, Dorsey.

Draft Manti Te'o and watch as he becomes the next great ILB in the league.

KCrockaholic 08-20-2012 01:56 AM

Dorsey will be gone. JMO. They will attempt to replace him in the mid rounds, or through free agency.

Hopefully he goes to a 4-3 team.

Munson 08-20-2012 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8834653)
Name the 15 starters better than Albert and the 16 worse.

I knew somebody wouldn't like that.

I just don't see him as an elite LT. Yeah, he's mostly good at pass blocking and run blocking, but I don't think he excels at either. Outside of AFC West fans, I don't think many people could name him as our LT. But like I said, he's worth re-signing.

mcaj22 08-20-2012 02:01 AM

"hes mostly good at pass blocking and run blocking"

what in the blue hell else do you want your LT to be good at? Giving Cassel a handjob? What more do you want

Direckshun 08-20-2012 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8834669)
"hes mostly good at pass blocking and run blocking"

what in the blue hell else do you want your LT to be good at? Giving Cassel a handjob?

WELL IF IT RELAXES HIM

Munson 08-20-2012 02:07 AM

You're missing the point. IMO, he's neither an elite pass blocker, nor an elite run blocker. He's not a piece of shit either. More of a jack of all trades, master of none.

KCrockaholic 08-20-2012 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 8834673)
You're missing the point. IMO, he's neither an elite pass blocker, nor an elite run blocker. He's not a piece of shit either. More of a jack of all trades, master of none.

He's above average at both though.

I see your point, but maybe "middle of the road" wasn't the best choice of words for him.

That would mean basically what Dane said. He's the 16th best LT.

But he's about 6 spots better than that.

Direckshun 08-20-2012 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 8834673)
You're missing the point. IMO, he's neither an elite pass blocker, nor an elite run blocker. He's not a piece of shit either. More of a jack of all trades, master of none.

If Branden Albert is not an elite runblocker, I'd like to see the guy who is.

KCrockaholic 08-20-2012 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8834675)
If Branden Albert is not an elite runblocker, I'd like to see the guy who is.

I know you might not care but according to PFF Albert was a top 5 pass blocking LT.

And ranked 20th as a run blocker for LT's.

Hammock Parties 08-20-2012 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 8834676)
I know you might not care but according to PFF Albert was a top 5 pass blocking LT.

And ranked 20th as a run blocker for LT's.

You're looking at OTs as a whole, not just LTs.

But you're right that he's not elite.

Even in 2010, his best year as a run blocker, he was ranked 7th among LTs as a run blocker.

Last year he fell off to 13th.

Be interesting to see what he is this year.

DaneMcCloud 08-20-2012 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8834677)
You're looking at OTs as a whole, not just LTs.

But you're right that he's not elite.

Even in 2010, his best year as a run blocker, he was ranked 7th among LTs as a run blocker.

Last year he fell off to 13th.

Be interesting to see what he is this year.

He'd be better if Lilja is gathering splinters while Allen is starting.

Munson 08-20-2012 02:34 AM

Lilja is definitely the weak point in the o-line. I hope Pioli doesn't try to re-sign him.

mcaj22 08-20-2012 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8834678)
He'd be better if Lilja is gathering splinters while Allen is starting.

did you not watch the 2nd preseason game where the Rams 2nd string rookie d-line owned Allen?

The guy will be good but lets not act like he hasnt already been beaten against some 2nd teamers

RealSNR 08-20-2012 09:07 AM

I wouldn't re-sign Lucas Patterson. We already have Rob Bruggeman


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