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Sofa King 09-01-2012 03:00 PM

Barry Sanders was awesome- Fun video to watch.
 
The things this guy could do. Awesome to watch.

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Ace Gunner 09-01-2012 03:02 PM

Saw two of his games. He was amazing.

007 09-01-2012 03:09 PM

:popcorn:

Can't wait for all the negative comments this will get.

Imon Yourside 09-01-2012 03:09 PM

Loved Barry and Al Michaels.

Munson 09-01-2012 03:17 PM

He's no Rashaan Sheehee.

Bowser 09-01-2012 03:19 PM

Was that the game that he and Emmitt Smiff both went for 200 yards rushing?

I love how Al Michaels is just waiting for Sanders to break a big run on literally every rushing attempt.

In58men 09-01-2012 03:20 PM

Overrated

Sofa King 09-01-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8870874)
Was that the game that he and Emmitt Smiff both went for 200 yards rushing?

I love how Al Michaels is just waiting for Sanders to break a big run on literally every rushing attempt.

I noticed that too. And the sound of the crowd everytime they actually stuffed him at the line.

Gadzooks 09-01-2012 03:21 PM

IMO - He's the greatest RB of all time. A lot of people go with Jim Brown but nobody in the history of the NFL has possessed the talent Barry had.
If he played behind that Cowboys O-Line in '94 he would have gained 3,000 yds. Too bad that the Lions F.O. beat the love of the game out of him by sucking so bad.

Bowser 09-01-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8870876)
Overrated

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In58men 09-01-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8870885)

ROFL

Gadzooks 09-01-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8870892)
ROFL

He's right though...

In58men 09-01-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8870899)
He's right though...

He would be if I was being serious lol.

Gadzooks 09-01-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8870909)
He would be if I was being serious lol.

Dang sarcasm meter's on the fritz again.:thumb:

Canofbier 09-01-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8870874)
Was that the game that he and Emmitt Smiff both went for 200 yards rushing?

I love how Al Michaels is just waiting for Sanders to break a big run on literally every rushing attempt.

"Sanderrrrrrrrrsssssssssssssss...."

In58men 09-01-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8870915)
Dang sarcasm meter's on the fritz again.:thumb:

It happens.

RealSNR 09-01-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8870877)
I noticed that too. And the sound of the crowd everytime they actually stuffed him at the line.

So THAT'S what 70,000 people exclaiming in unison, "OH SWEET JESUS THANK GOD WE DIDN'T GET RAPED" sounds like

Bowser 09-01-2012 03:34 PM

On a somewhat relevent note -

I wonder if Mark Collins kept the football he intercepted when Sanders tried a halfback pass against us during that Thanksgiving game.

Deberg_1990 09-01-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8870874)
Was that the game that he and Emmitt Smiff both went for 200 yards rushing?

I love how Al Michaels is just waiting for Sanders to break a big run on literally every rushing attempt.

I remember watching that game so I went and looked up the stats. Sanders had 40 carries for 194 0 TDs and Emmitt had 29 for 143 with 1 td that night. The Lions won the game 20 to 17

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...9409190dal.htm

Gadzooks 09-01-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8870931)
I remember watching that game so I went and looked up the stats. Sanders had 40 carries for 194 0 TDs and Emmitt had 29 for 143 with 1 td that night. The Lions won the game 20 to 17

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...9409190dal.htm

I watched that game too. It was a great season overall, (with the exception of the 49ers cheating the salary cap to win the SB...).

Bowser 09-01-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8870931)
I remember watching that game so I went and looked up the stats. Sanders had 40 carries for 194 0 TDs and Emmitt had 29 for 143 with 1 td that night. The Lions won the game 20 to 17

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...9409190dal.htm

Cool, thanks.

Deberg_1990 09-01-2012 03:40 PM

Heh, 40 carries by a single RB.....that's nearly unheard of now days.

Baby Lee 09-01-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8870814)
The things this guy could do. Awesome to watch.

No flag for that, times HAVE changed.

Quesadilla Joe 09-01-2012 04:02 PM

He reminds me so much of Jamaal Charles/SNR

Deberg_1990 09-01-2012 04:06 PM

Ironically, the first time the Chiefs played against Sanders in 1990 was the Barry Word 200 yard rushing game.

RealSNR 09-01-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8871028)
He reminds me so much of Jamaal Charles/SNR

Jamaal Charles does that very same shit with the porous offensive lines in past years.

Quesadilla Joe 09-01-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8871053)
Jamaal Charles does that very same shit with the porous offensive lines in past years.

He put up some numbers behind those Chiefs lines but he doesn't make cuts the way Barry did. Barry Sanders made people look stupid, Jamaal Charles just makes people look slow.

SAUTO 09-01-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8871069)
He put up some numbers behind those Chiefs lines but he doesn't make cuts the way Barry did. Barry Sanders made people look stupid, Jamaal Charles just makes people look slow.

Does Barry Sanders type all your posts?

Would make sense.
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Molitoth 09-01-2012 04:23 PM

Its awesome how many run plays that were blown up at the los and Barry made something out of nothing.
Its also amazing how much Barry played without injuries.

L.A. Chieffan 09-01-2012 04:24 PM

Nice horse collar tackle. Did they even call that shit then?

mcaj22 09-01-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8871082)
Nice horse collar tackle. Did they even call that shit then?

lol...

cardken2 09-01-2012 04:30 PM

LOL Scott Mitchell....biggest theif in the history of the NFL, literally stole money through lack of performance from the Lions, :doh!:

ClevelandBronco 09-01-2012 04:32 PM

Incredible. If they didn't have the guy wrapped up when he was going down, he'd dive from a foot off the ground or even run with his hands to get an extra yard or two.

whoman69 09-01-2012 05:16 PM

Sanders did things nobody else in the history of football could do. If I had a beef it would be that he lost yardage too often. For a team that had as small a passing game as the Lions did, to start constantly in a 2 and 14 hole was too much to overcome. With all the negative yardage, its hard to believe he is 2nd all-time rushing.

Molitoth 09-01-2012 06:56 PM

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If I had a beef it would be that he lost yardage too often
He didn't call the plays man. Everyone KNEW Sanders was getting the ball, and the oline rarely did jack shit to help him out. He basically made chicken salad out of chicken shit.

milkman 09-01-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8871175)
Sanders did things nobody else in the history of football could do. If I had a beef it would be that he lost yardage too often. For a team that had as small a passing game as the Lions did, to start constantly in a 2 and 14 hole was too much to overcome. With all the negative yardage, its hard to believe he is 2nd all-time rushing.

I don't think there are many that will argue that Barry Sanders was the most most talented RB that ever played the game.

He did, however, play with a lack of intelligenge.

If I remember correctly, he had the most carries for lost yardage in NFL history.

He put his team in difficult positions as often as he did great things f r them.

Give me a RB like Walter Payton or Eric Dickerson, that almost always moved forward.

jjjayb 09-01-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871497)
I don't think there are many that will argue that Barry Sanders was the most most talented RB that ever played the game.

He did, however, play with a lack of intelligenge.

If I remember correctly, he had the most carries for lost yardage in NFL history.

He put his team in difficult positions as often as he did great things f r them.

Give me a RB like Walter Payton or Eric Dickerson, that almost always moved forward.

That could have a little to do with the shit o-line he played behind. Like was said earlier, if he played on the cowboys teams Emmitt played on he wouldn't have had as many carries for loss. He would have shattered every running record.

milkman 09-01-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 8871528)
That could have a little to do with the shit o-line he played behind. Like was said earlier, if he played on the cowboys teams Emmitt played on he wouldn't have had as many carries for loss. He would have shattered every running record.

Walter Payton, in his first 5 or 6 years, ran behind a line every bit as bad as the Lions.

He ran smart.

He rarely gave up yardage in an effort to make something happen.

Barry Sanders did.

jjjayb 09-01-2012 07:48 PM

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jjjayb 09-01-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871544)
Walter Payton, in his first 5 or 6 years, ran behind a line every bit as bad as the Lions.

He ran smart.

He rarely gave up yardage in an effort to make something happen.

Barry Sanders did.

He didn't give up yardage trying to make something happen. He gave up yardage being hit 3 yards behind the line when he got handed the ball.

Gadzooks 09-01-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 8871563)
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In some of these highlights Sanders has to juke out his own linemen.LMAO

BTW - the move on Reggie White is Epic! Payton and Brown would have shit their pants and went home.

Molitoth 09-01-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871544)
Walter Payton, in his first 5 or 6 years, ran behind a line every bit as bad as the Lions.

He ran smart.

He rarely gave up yardage in an effort to make something happen.

Barry Sanders did.

rofl, what did you expect him to do? Just fall on the ground and give up in order not to lose a couple of yards? A lot of his best plays came from broken hand offs right off the bat.

Molitoth 09-01-2012 08:07 PM

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jjjayb 09-01-2012 08:08 PM

Great video that talks about his carries for negative yards and the horrible line he had.

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Molitoth 09-01-2012 08:10 PM

At least you make a case for Walter Peyton though.... whom very well could be the best RB ever.

Anyone who mentiones Emmitt Smith is just a tard Cowboys homer.

milkman 09-01-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 8871566)
He didn't give up yardage trying to make something happen. He gave up yardage being hit 3 yards behind the line when he got handed the ball.

He had carries that resulted in losses that all told cost him 2000 yards rougly over the course of his career.

Do you have any idea how many times he would have had to simply get hit 3 yards behind the line to acummulate 2000 yards in losses?

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8871602)
rofl, what did you expect him to do? Just fall on the ground and give up in order not to lose a couple of yards? A lot of his best plays came from broken hand offs right off the bat.

No, I want him to move forward.

He cost his teams more often with losses than he helped with spectacular plays.

Bowser 09-01-2012 08:12 PM

And he literally juked Rod Woodson straight out of his ACL. Almost forgot about that.

SAUTO 09-01-2012 08:12 PM

I don't think anyone could argue against him being the most elusive back in history...
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jjjayb 09-01-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8871607)
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FANTASTIC music on that video!

SAUTO 09-01-2012 08:15 PM

And actually I didn't even see the video that says what I said before posting
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jjjayb 09-01-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871614)
He had carries that resulted in losses that all told cost him 2000 yards rougly over the course of his career.

Do you have any idea how many times he would have had to simply get hit 3 yards behind the line to acummulate 200 yards in losses?



No, I want him to move forward.

He cost his teams more often with losses than he helped with spectacular plays.

Cost his team?!? Are you kidding me? What would his team be without him?!? They had nothing! Nobody! Who were their other weapons??? He ran for 2,000 frigging yards in a single season when he was the ONLY weapon. Opponents had NOBODY else to defend against. They're gameplan against Detroit was literrally "stop Barry Sanders". That's it. And he STILL ripped off 2,000 yards in a single seaon, yet you complain about losing yards occassionally? Put down the pipe man.

Molitoth 09-01-2012 08:16 PM

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He cost his teams more often with losses than he helped with spectacular plays.
lol, done with you. Move along.

Bowser 09-01-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871614)
He had carries that resulted in losses that all told cost him 2000 yards rougly over the course of his career.

Do you have any idea how many times he would have had to simply get hit 3 yards behind the line to acummulate 200 yards in losses?



No, I want him to move forward.

He cost his teams more often with losses than he helped with spectacular plays.

Maybe so, but whatever. He's the ultimate risk/reward type of player, and I'll take a guy that will try until the very last to make a play.

There isn't a team out there that wouldn't take Barry Sanders in his prime, no matter who their starting running back is. He is as good as there ever was to play, and that includes Payton and Brown.

Molitoth 09-01-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 8871628)
Cost his team?!? Are you kidding me? What would his team be without him?!? They had nothing! Nobody! Who were their other weapons??? He ran for 2,000 frigging yards when he was the ONLY weapon. Opponents had NOBODY else to defend against. They're gameplan against Detroit was literrally "stop Barry Sanders". That's it. And he STILL ripped off 2,000 yards, yet you complain about losing yards occassionally? Put down the pipe man.

Well, they did have Herman Moore and a decent Brett Perriman. :eek:

SAUTO 09-01-2012 08:19 PM

JFC a ton of those plays he was getting hit as he was getting the ball...
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Tribal Warfare 09-01-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 8871620)
FANTASTIC music on that video!

Lux Aeterna

Molitoth 09-01-2012 08:22 PM

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This one is great too.

Miami Ohio 178
Texas A&M 157
Tulsa 304
Colorado 174
Nebraska 189
Missouri 154
Kansas St 320
Oklahoma 215
Kansas 312
Iowa State 293
Texas Tech 332

Total: 2,628 (238.9 yds/game), 39 TD's

Wyoming (Bowl Game) 222
Overall season Total: 2,850, 44 TD's

jjjayb 09-01-2012 08:31 PM

In 10 seasons he had 10 1,000 yard rushing seasons. Had held the rushing title for 4 out of those 10 seasons. Ran for over 1500 yards on 5 of those season (4 of them in a row).

Here are his rushing numbers by season:

1,470
1,304
1,548
1,352
1,115
1,883
1,500
1,553
2,053
1,491

All while playing for the Detroit freaking Lions. Yeah, I'd take that on my team any day.

SAUTO 09-01-2012 08:33 PM

Think what he could have done behind our o line under vermiel
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milkman 09-01-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 8871628)
Cost his team?!? Are you kidding me? What would his team be without him?!? They had nothing! Nobody! Who were their other weapons??? He ran for 2,000 frigging yards in a single season when he was the ONLY weapon. Opponents had NOBODY else to defend against. They're gameplan against Detroit was literrally "stop Barry Sanders". That's it. And he STILL ripped off 2,000 yards in a single seaon, yet you complain about losing yards occassionally? Put down the pipe man.

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8871631)
lol, done with you. Move along.

You two misunderstand me.

I am saying that he needed to run smart and not try to make things happen as often as he did.

He put his team in 2nd or 3rd and long situations more often than he made spectacular runs.

It's like a talented QB throwing interceptions under pressure.

Brett Favre would be in the discussion with Joe Montana as the greatest QB ever if he had played it smart more often.

How many times did he engineer last minute comebacks only after he put the Packers inposition to have to comeback with a stupid interception?

How many times did he fail to make those comebacks?

The Packers were better with Favre than without, as the Lions were better with Sanders than without.

But they could have been better with out the stupid mistakes.

jjjayb 09-01-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8871692)
Think what he could have done behind our o line under vermiel
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:whackit: He wouldn't have had his "problem" of too many carries for negative yards.

jjjayb 09-01-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871704)
You two misunderstand me.

I am saying that he needed to run smart and not try to make things happen as often as he did.

He put his team in 2nd or 3rd and long situations more often than he made spectacular runs.

It's like a talented QB throwing interceptions under pressure.

Brett Favre would be in the discussion with Joe Montana as the greatest QB ever if he had played it smart more often.

How many times did he engineer last minute comebacks only after he put the Packers inposition to have to comeback with a stupid interception?

How many times did he fail to make those comebacks?

The Packers were better with Favre than without, as the Lions were better with Sanders than without.

But they could have been better with out the stupid mistakes.

How many times did the Lions make it to the playoffs with Barry Sanders even though he didn't play it smart? Do you think he would have had near as many carries for loss if he played for the Cowboys during his playing years? With the cowboys line blowing open huge holes like they did? With the cowboys having a multi-dimensional attack that made defenders account for more than just the running back? It was said here earlier and I'll repeat it. He made chicken salad out of chicken shit. He had to try and fight for yardage because that's all the team had.

milkman 09-01-2012 09:12 PM

Bottom line it for you.

In a team with a good O-line and good surruonding talent, I'll take Barry Sanders.

On a team with a bad O-Line and marginal surrounding talent, I'll take Walter Payton.

ku_jhawk23 09-01-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871704)
You two misunderstand me.

I am saying that he needed to run smart and not try to make things happen as often as he did.

He put his team in 2nd or 3rd and long situations more often than he made spectacular runs.


But they could have been better with out the stupid mistakes.


What an idiotic statement. "he put them in 2nd or 3rd and long more than specatcular runs".....NO SHIT. He also put them in 2nd or 3rd and SHORT more often than 2nd or 3rd and long.

kcmaxwell 09-01-2012 09:26 PM

I remember watching a highlight of his on Sportscenter, from just the hips down, and him just dancing around defenders... He was flat awesome.

kcmaxwell 09-01-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 8871715)
How many times did the Lions make it to the playoffs with Barry Sanders even though he didn't play it smart? Do you think he would have had near as many carries for loss if he played for the Cowboys during his playing years? With the cowboys line blowing open huge holes like they did? With the cowboys having a multi-dimensional attack that made defenders account for more than just the running back? It was said here earlier and I'll repeat it. He made chicken salad out of chicken shit. He had to try and fight for yardage because that's all the team had.

Yes'm.

jjjayb 09-01-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871765)
Bottom line it for you.

In a team with a good O-line and good surruonding talent, I'll take Barry Sanders.

On a team with a bad O-Line and marginal surrounding talent, I'll take Walter Payton.

So basically, you're saying Walter Payton would have run better than Barry if he played for the Detroit Lions? Because the lions were a bad o-line with Marginal talent, and Barry put up numbers as great as Paytons.

And your anology of Barry losing yards being like a QB throwing interceptions is completely wrong. It would be more akin to a QB taking a lot of sacks hanging in the pocket waiting for a big play. Or a qb attempting a 60 yard bomb and having an incompletion rather than hitting the open guy 3 yards out. If he fumbled, that would be a comparison to a QB throwing an INT.

And to set the record straight, Barry didn't lose 2,000 yards as you stated. He lost yards 336 times in his career for a total of 962 yards lost. Averaging 16 games a year (not sure how accurate that is, don't know exactly how many games he played figuring games not played + playoff games. ) That equals about 2 losses for a total of -6 yards per game. I'd take losses for 3 yards twice a game anyday with what he brought to the table. Especially when you take into account how many gains he had after he was hit behind the line of scrimmage, or juked a guy to avoid a hit behind the line of scrimmage.

Anyway, back to more of the fun stuff:

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I really like videos like this that show all of his runs in a game so you can really get a feel for how he did throughout the game. Watch how many times he has people in his face behind the LOS. It's amazing he didn't have MORE carries for loss.

milkman 09-01-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 8871715)
How many times did the Lions make it to the playoffs with Barry Sanders even though he didn't play it smart? Do you think he would have had near as many carries for loss if he played for the Cowboys during his playing years? With the cowboys line blowing open huge holes like they did? With the cowboys having a multi-dimensional attack that made defenders account for more than just the running back? It was said here earlier and I'll repeat it. He made chicken salad out of chicken shit. He had to try and fight for yardage because that's all the team had.

I believe thsoe Lions teams could have made it to the playoffs just as often with back like Payton, and with his ability to make positve yardage on almost every single carry, they might have won an extra game or two, putting them in a more favorable seed in the playoffs.

2nd and 14, 3rd and 17 situations are extremely difficult situations.

milkman 09-01-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 8871810)
So basically, you're saying Walter Payton would have run better than Barry if he played for the Detroit Lions? Because the lions were a bad o-line with Marginal talent, and Barry put up numbers as great as Paytons.

And your anology of Barry losing yards being like a QB throwing interceptions is completely wrong. It would be more akin to a QB taking a lot of sacks hanging in the pocket waiting for a big play. Or a qb attempting a 60 yard bomb and having an incompletion rather than hitting the open guy 3 yards out. If he fumbled, that would be a comparison to a QB throwing an INT.

And to set the record straight, Barry didn't lose 2,000 yards as you stated. He lost yards 336 times in his career for a total of 962 yards lost. Averaging 16 games a year (not sure how accurate that is, don't know exactly how many games he played figuring games not played + playoff games. ) That equals about 2 losses for a total of -6 yards per game. I'd take losses for 3 yards twice a game anyday with what he brought to the table. Especially when you take into account how many gains he had after he was hit behind the line of scrimmage, or juked a guy to avoid a hit behind the line of scrimmage.

Anyway, back to more of the fun stuff:

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I really like videos like this that show all of his runs in a game so you can really get a feel for how he did throughout the game. Watch how many times he has people in his face behind the LOS. It's amazing he didn't have MORE carries for loss.

I'm not going to find the link, cause it's been a few years, but I read a story a few years ago that said he had far more lost yardage than 962 yards.

Regardless, I watched Sanders, and his propensity for lost yrdage always pissed me off.

jjjayb 09-01-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871819)
I'm not going to find the link, cause it's been a few years, but I read a story a few years ago that said he had far more lost yardage than 962 yards.

Regardless, I watched Sanders, and his propensity for lost yrdage always pissed me off.

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Sanders also holds the NFL record for the most carries for negative yardage. According to the SI Book of Football, these numbers totaled 336 carries for -952 Yards.
Again, statistically he lost yards 2 times per game at -3 yards per loss. Just watch the video I just posted. Pick out the times he lost yards. Then pick out the number of times he has someone in the backfield when he gets the ball. Then pick out the number of times he gains yards when he does have someone in his face in the backfield.

I don't know what pissed you off back in the day to give you the perception that Barry was always losing yards and a detriment to his team, but it wasn't and still isn't based off reality.

Gadzooks 09-01-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8871814)
I believe thsoe Lions teams could have made it to the playoffs just as often with back like Payton, and with his ability to make positve yardage on almost every single carry, they might have won an extra game or two, putting them in a more favorable seed in the playoffs.

2nd and 14, 3rd and 17 situations are extremely difficult situations.

Steve Young was so talented that he could have won a SB in TB... oh wait...
Circumstances tend to play a huge role in player performance. To make the comparison of Peyton and Sanders is a bit of a reach. Sanders fell forward as often as he could and dropped the shoulder on many occasions, much like Peyton, but in no way was Peyton more elusive, (he was too busy high stepping his way into the end zone untouched).

jjjayb 09-01-2012 10:27 PM

Just to throw more fuel to the fire:

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Whilst it's true that Sanders is the all-time leader in negative yards, he averaged only 46 yards a year more than Walter Payton did. Walter Payton, the man who always fell forward, who never said die. Despite the vast differences in perception between Sanders as a runner and Payton as a runner, the statistics amount to a difference of less than 3 yards a game.

KCwolf 09-01-2012 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8870837)
:popcorn:

Can't wait for all the negative comments this will get.

uhhhhhhh....what? Seek help.

Sorter 09-02-2012 12:41 AM

First, Barry was awesome.

Second, Herman Moore. Loved watching that guy play.

Sorter 09-02-2012 12:46 AM

Also at 2:58 in the Bucs vid, he just shrugs off a DE like its nothing. Bary was/still is the man. Can't wait to watch his son play at Stanford.

Sorter 09-02-2012 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8870885)

pos rep for you sir

Molitoth 09-02-2012 12:58 AM

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Can't wait to watch his son play at Stanford.
Me too!

Sorter 09-02-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8872090)
Me too!

Seriously, it is a wonderful situation for him. Pro style, run heavy O at a great academic institution.

kcxiv 09-02-2012 01:45 AM

They said that Little Barry runs the 40 in 4.31. thats faster then his pops. They said a little taller, but has more top speed.

Should be interesting watching Stanford this year.

Tribal Warfare 09-02-2012 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8872154)
They said that Little Barry runs the 40 in 4.31. thats faster then his pops. They said a little taller, but has more top speed.

Should be interesting watching Stanford this year.

He isn't built like him or has his running style, I hate to make this comparison but his style is more like Charles than his Dad's.


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