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Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 09:02 PM

Cassel blames his running game, offensive line
 
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...7-bb06761f5b99

Oh, hey there Grbac. You can't block 'em and throw it, too.

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We have to do a better job of staying ahead on downs, first and second down, creating positive plays and staying out of negative plays that create third and long situations. It's hard to convert on third and long in this league, especially when you have a good defensive line like they did today.

We knew coming in that we were going to have to handle their front. We did at times, and we didn't at other times. So we just have to become more consistent.
Listen to the rest. Not once did he accept personal responsibility. No mention of the Chiefs passing game.

"We, we, we."

Wank it to your stats tonight, Matty.

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BigMeatballDave 09-16-2012 09:04 PM

**** him.

He's a loser.

Playing for a loser GM and a loser owner.

FlaChief58 09-16-2012 09:06 PM

It's a process

Black Bob 09-16-2012 09:06 PM

He sucked but the o-line sucked worse. I'm cool with it. **** the interior line. They sucked today

Reerun_KC 09-16-2012 09:07 PM

I blame crennel and his.pathetic 7-11 defense.

Molitoth 09-16-2012 09:07 PM

Good. Maybe the oline will blow up on him and there will be so much drama that 1 Arrowhead Drive explodes.

KC_Lee 09-16-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8918943)
He sucked but the o-line sucked worse. I'm cool with it. **** the interior line. They sucked today

Every aspect of this team sucked today.

FAX 09-16-2012 09:08 PM

Man, he sure looks a lot like Ash Williams in that gif thing.

Like when he couldn't remember the magic words and all.

FAX

Direckshun 09-16-2012 09:09 PM

That is a pathetic stretch, to tie his shitty press conference statement to your shitty thread title.

Nice try.

Actually, shit try.

Crush 09-16-2012 09:09 PM

He graded out perfectly.

HemiEd 09-16-2012 09:10 PM

Cassel did use two hands to put his hat on, when he went to the bench to pout.

Direckshun 09-16-2012 09:10 PM

This isn't hard to figure out.

You don't like not-liking a good guy who is a shit quarterback.

So you are having to convince yourself that he's a shit person, too.

Get a life. This thread is for hate, not football.

BigMeatballDave 09-16-2012 09:10 PM

Asamoah has regressed.

boogblaster 09-16-2012 09:11 PM

whole team needs kicked in the dick .. plus coaches and management ... steel-toed required .....

BigMeatballDave 09-16-2012 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8918960)
This isn't hard to figure out.

You don't like not-liking a good guy who is a shit quarterback.

So you are having to convince yourself that he's a shit person, too.

Get a life. This thread is for hate, not football.

Show us proof of him blaming himself for anything these last two games.

lcarus 09-16-2012 09:13 PM

I don't care what Cassel says or who he blames at this point. I mean who really gives a shit. He sucks and we all hate him. I need a long vacation from watching this team play until some serious shit changes. And it's only ****ing week 2. God

Direckshun 09-16-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8918966)
Show us proof of him blaming himself for anything these last two games.

I'm no doctorate of English, but I think he's included in "we."

Priest31kc 09-16-2012 09:13 PM

Has Cassel EVER put the blame on himself!?!?!? EVER? JFC just when I thought I couldn't hate him any more..

KChiefer 09-16-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8918951)
Man, he sure looks a lot like Ash Williams in that gif thing.

Like when he couldn't remember the magic words and all.

FAX

Great call!!! But the word he's looking for is "Omaha. Duck. Cover."

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Chiefnj2 09-16-2012 09:14 PM

I don't see the problem. It shows great self awareness. Cassel knows he can't lead the team and carry them. He needs a running game and good OL. He's correct, for the offense to succeed the other players have to do better on 1st down and protect his ass. Without their help he can't do anything but check down on third and long.

Sure-Oz 09-16-2012 09:15 PM

Cassell is one of the many problems.

Need a new coach gm qb period.

AustinChief 09-16-2012 09:15 PM

To be honest, out O-line looked like ass most of the game.

We have the talent to have decent lines on both sides of the ball, it HAS to be coaching at this point.

FAX 09-16-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8918988)
To be honest, out O-line looked like ass most of the game.

We have the talent to have decent lines on both sides of the ball, it HAS to be coaching at this point.

Yep.

FAX

milkman 09-16-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8918943)
He sucked but the o-line sucked worse. I'm cool with it. **** the interior line. They sucked today

This O-Line has had some communication breakdowns, but if defenses had any respect for the passing game, and they were blocking for a QB that could do more than make one read then shit, they'd look a hell of a lot better than they do with Cassel back there.

BigMeatballDave 09-16-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8918974)
I'm no doctorate of English, but I think he's included in "we."

No.

The 'good ones' say I need to play better.

BoneKrusher 09-16-2012 09:20 PM

it's never Matts fault, remember he thinks he's up there with Manning and Rivers..

AustinChief 09-16-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8918998)
This O-Line has had some communication breakdowns, but if defenses had any respect for the passing game, and they were blocking for a QB that could do more than make one read then shit, they'd look a hell of alot better than they do with Cassel back there.

This is true BUT I think it also goes into coaching and possibly scheme. Our line didn't just look bad it looked horrendous today.

Reerun_KC 09-16-2012 09:22 PM

The.whole offense is garbage. From the qb to bowes drops and lazy routes. To an ol that couldnt block a stroller. To the disappearing running backs.


Then add in a hc that's 105 years old and his 7-11 defense and you get ass pounded.

Reerun_KC 09-16-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8918998)
This O-Line has had some communication breakdowns, but if defenses had any respect for the passing game, and they were blocking for a QB that could do more than make one read then shit, they'd look a hell of a lot better than they do with Cassel back there.

Maybe get Cutler.

Chiefnj2 09-16-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8918988)

We have the talent to have decent lines on both sides of the ball, it HAS to be coaching at this point.

I'm not sure I agree.

T Jax and Poe were both reaches. Dorsey excelled at 1 gap in college.

Albert was a great college guard moved to LT. Hudson was a great college guard moved to center. Lilja has been declining for several years. Asamoah was ass against the run last year too. Winston should be looking better.

Don't reach on DL, keep linemen them at their natural positions and be more proactive. Why is it that the fans can see areas that need to be addressed years before Pioli does something about it? RT was needed year 1, but it took Scott 4 years to address it.

TLO 09-16-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8918930)
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...7-bb06761f5b99

Oh, hey there Grbac. You can't block 'em and throw it, too.



Listen to the rest. Not once did he accept personal responsibility. No mention of the Chiefs passing game.

"We, we, we."

Wank it to your stats tonight, Matty.

http://i.imgur.com/3str6.gif

I blame you.

milkman 09-16-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8919030)
This is true BUT I think it also goes into coaching and possibly scheme. Our line didn't just look bad it looked horrendous today.

Oh, no question they struggled mightily, especially in the middle against Dareus and Williams, which is to be expected when you are finesse against power.

But it still remains that your QB and the respect that team's have for him, or lack, has a big influence in your line's success.

htismaqe 09-16-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8918943)
He sucked but the o-line sucked worse. I'm cool with it. **** the interior line. They sucked today

The best QBs in this league play well behind mediocre offensive lines.

AustinChief 09-16-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8919041)
I'm not sure I agree.

T Jax and Poe were both reaches. Dorsey excelled at 1 gap in college.

Albert was a great college guard moved to LT. Hudson was a great college guard moved to center. Lilja has been declining for several years. Asamoah was ass against the run last year too. Winston should be looking better.

Don't reach on DL, keep linemen them at their natural positions and be more proactive. Why is it that the fans can see areas that need to be addressed years before Pioli does something about it? RT was needed year 1, but it took Scott 4 years to address it.

I said DECENT.. not all world. There is enough talent to be decent, no matter how negative you are, you have to admit THAT.

Also, with a better scheme on D, our D-line should be able to perform much better.

AustinChief 09-16-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8919065)
Oh, no question they struggled mightily, especially in the middle against Dareus and Williams, which is to be expected when you are finesse against power.

But it still remains that your QB and the respect that team's have for him, or lack, has a big influence in your line's success.

We agree here 100% I am just thinking if we are tossing Cassel, we should go ahead and toss the staff while we are at, they aren't pulling their weight either.

milkman 09-16-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8919075)
We agree here 100% I am just thinking if we are tossing Cassel, we should go ahead and toss the staff while we are at, they aren't pulling their weight either.

Let's toss Pioli and Hunt while we're at it.

It starts at the top, as has been said numerous times here.

|Zach| 09-16-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8918974)
I'm no doctorate of English, but I think he's included in "we."

LMAO

WV 09-16-2012 09:32 PM

The Oline wasn't bad enough, I mean Casshole is still walking around on two good knees.

AustinChief 09-16-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8919087)
Let's toss Pioli and Hunt while we're at it.

It starts at the top, as has been said numerous times here.

Well, we can't really toss Hunt. That ain't happening so we may as well forget that. I'm all for replacing Pioli once we have a candidate we can trust to do better... I am just really "meh" on GM candidates out there right now.

RealSNR 09-16-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8918974)
I'm no doctorate of English, but I think he's included in "we."

I never once heard Trent Green mask the problem areas of this team onto "we." I heard him always accept responsibility himself. Hell, when the ****ing commissioner cracked jokes about his piece of shit defense that deserved ALL the blame, he said, "No. The offense didn't score enough."

That was a true leader of the team.

Cassel is a ****tard pussy. A weak-spirited asshole. A ****ing cancer.

Tribal Warfare 09-16-2012 09:39 PM

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Rasputin 09-16-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8918958)
Cassel did use two hands to put his hat on, when he went to the bench to pout.

I saw that, thought wow he sure has came a long ways in development.

Reerun_KC 09-16-2012 09:42 PM

Cassel reminded me of Cutler today. Garbage. .

Straight, No Chaser 09-16-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8919075)
We agree here 100% I am just thinking if we are tossing Cassel, we should go ahead and toss the staff while we are at, they aren't pulling their weight either.

The Bills flat out wanted it more today... Coaching staff did not have this team ready in any phase. Mario Williams said it after the game: "We went out there and put it all on the line.

The Chiefs had trouble finding the line today.That's everyone, but I blame Romeo and that staff of his. Ditto performance in all phases from week one.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 09:52 PM

I wish we had a badass QB like this.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/13...smithblood.gif

The Bad Guy 09-16-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8918943)
He sucked but the o-line sucked worse. I'm cool with it. **** the interior line. They sucked today

Every time you post, all I see is blah, blah, absolve Cassel from some blame, blah blah.

The Bad Guy 09-16-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8919128)
Cassel reminded me of Cutler today. Garbage. .

Cassel can't hold Cutler's jock.

The Bad Guy 09-16-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8919097)
Well, we can't really toss Hunt. That ain't happening so we may as well forget that. I'm all for replacing Pioli once we have a candidate we can trust to do better... I am just really "meh" on GM candidates out there right now.

Well, the GM candidates aren't going to grow on trees. What's out there now is going to be what's out there in 3 years.

Although I have my doubts that Clark is going to replace that loser anyway.

Reerun_KC 09-16-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8919221)
Cassel can't hold Cutler's jock.

Why would he want to? Fetish of yours?

BossChief 09-16-2012 10:13 PM

Cassel says everything that a backup quarterback should say when he is playing spot duty for a true starting NFL quarterback and I KNOW that certain players on the team feel the EXACT same way.

This team plays deflated once we get behind because they have NO FAITH that our quarterback will bring us back.

I think Pioli and Cassel both need to be shown the door ASAP.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919279)

I think Pioli and Cassel both need to be shown the door ASAP.

http://www.nerddogueto.com.br/wordpr...t-feel-bro.jpg

Bambi 09-16-2012 10:15 PM

Has there ever been a more hated QB than Cassel?

Poor guy.

Bump 09-16-2012 10:18 PM

Cassel played just as bad as anybody else out there

Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8919292)
Has there ever been a more hated QB than Cassel?

Poor guy.

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Reerun_KC 09-16-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8919292)
Has there ever been a more hated QB than Cassel?

Poor guy.

Grbac and Bono were hated just as much.

AustinChief 09-16-2012 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8919238)
Well, the GM candidates aren't going to grow on trees. What's out there now is going to be what's out there in 3 years.

Although I have my doubts that Clark is going to replace that loser anyway.

True and true.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 8919048)
I blame you.

You're welcome.

Tribal Warfare 09-16-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8919342)
Grbac and Bono were hated just as much.

not like Cassel, Bono and Grbac weren't joined at Peterson's hip during their period in KC.

NJChiefsFan 09-16-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919326)

Yeah, I am sure he will survive. He got paid pretty well to be hated, and hell, to be hated by a smaller amount of fans and media than he should have been.

chiefscafan 09-17-2012 10:33 AM

Ok I've been quiet lately but a picture can say a thousand words.

The one where the lb is coming at cassel and he falls to the ground says it all for me. Great qbs stand in the pocket and deliver that pass. Not fall to the ground in a fetal position. I stood by Matt since he's gotten here. Last year at the sd game I finally saw who he was a prima Dona spoiled qb. It made me disgusted that he wouldn't stand up in the pocket and check off the first read. Then when he came to the sideline he would be yelling at everyone. I too have never heard him take responsibility for his screw ups. Great qbs do that too. I never thought I'd say this but I'm ashamed to call myself a chiefs fan watching this current team. The main problem is I also don't know how we can fix this mess but I'm done with cassel after what I've seen. That's just my two cents.

MahiMike 09-17-2012 10:46 AM

Why should he? He's an average QB but he is a smart guy. He knows this is his last chance. Time to try and stand up for himself. It's just the beginning for this team. RAC and Pioli will be doing the same in couple more weeks.

Chiefnj2 09-17-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 8920416)
Ok I've been quiet lately but a picture can say a thousand words.

Great qbs stand in the pocket and deliver that pass. .

Deliver what pass? It doesn't look like he was in the process of throwing the ball to anyone.

Bump 09-17-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919326)

he kinda looks like Zach from Saved by the Bell

Thig Lyfe 09-17-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919194)
I wish we had a badass QB like this.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/13...smithblood.gif

Alex Smith is ten times the quarterback Cassel is.

:(

durtyrute 09-17-2012 11:10 AM

Has anyone noticed that the whole time Cassel has been here it seems that he never has the support of anyone but Scotty? Even on TD celebrations, no one is ever running up to him to celebrate. He always tries some high five that fails, or some gay ass leaping body bump that fails. I want a team that supports and is behind it's QB. Is that too much to ask?

lcarus 09-17-2012 11:13 AM

Almost all the good teams in the NFL have a head coach and QB that are at the very least on the same page. With Cassel, I'm not even sure that Haley and/or Crennel WANT HIM TO BE THE STARTING QB. How is that supposed to work out for us? You think Crennel would rather have Cassel in there than his asspal Brady Quinn?

L.A. Chieffan 09-17-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8919118)
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Nice suit... John Phillips, London.

I have two myself.

bevischief 09-17-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919279)
Cassel says everything that a backup quarterback should say when he is playing spot duty for a true starting NFL quarterback and I KNOW that certain players on the team feel the EXACT same way.

This team plays deflated once we get behind because they have NO FAITH that our quarterback will bring us back.

I think Pioli and Cassel both need to be shown the door ASAP.

I said this when Haley got the boot.

RINGLEADER 09-17-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8918961)
Asamoah has regressed.

I don't know that he was ever that good, but this goes to coaching too. Instead of trying to stick it up the middle, we should spread the formation. Instead of trying to keep Cassel in a pocket that this line can't maintain, try rolling him out now and then.

We do absolutely nothing, on either side of the ball, to keep the opposition guessing.

I didn't watch the game to "grade out" every player at every position, but there were enough plays to see that DJ is killing the defense by just guessing on plays (and guessing wrong). Eric Berry can't bring opponents down even when he's jumped on their back. Charles and Hillis can't get into the open field because they're being asked to run into the back of our weak ass line.

Personally, this is more of a coaching issue then a talent issue. Romeo is quickly proving that he's every bit the coach that Cassel is the QB -- he just can't win when it matters.

Chiefnj2 09-17-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 8920795)
Instead of trying to keep Cassel in a pocket that this line can't maintain, try rolling him out now and then.

He can't move and think at the same time.

RINGLEADER 09-17-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8920590)
Almost all the good teams in the NFL have a head coach and QB that are at the very least on the same page. With Cassel, I'm not even sure that Haley and/or Crennel WANT HIM TO BE THE STARTING QB. How is that supposed to work out for us? You think Crennel would rather have Cassel in there than his asspal Brady Quinn?

Then Romeo shouldn't have taken the job. He tied his horse to this hitch the second he accepted damaged goods at the top. Now he's screwed because he's never going to get a third shot (though I think the jury's in on whether he was ever deserving of a second).

Valiant 09-17-2012 12:16 PM

The problem with the lines sucking will not get better until we get talent.

They don't get to practice against nfl except on sundays. Our d lineman are garbage, our olineman do not get the work they need to get better. Then you have to protect cassel who wilts himself just as much if not more and blames everyone but himself.

Man, it has sucked to be a chiefs fan for decades now. Next stop is barkley casselesque period for the chiefs.

RINGLEADER 09-17-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8920802)
He can't move and think at the same time.

All the more evidence he shouldn't be playing then. We don't have the Ravens/Bucs kind of defenses that will let someone like Dilfer/Johnson (and Cassel) succeed. The point everyone else is making about the defense deflating when we're behind is probably valid, but don't get behind to begin with then.

RINGLEADER 09-17-2012 12:18 PM

We might see Quinn next week if things get out of hand. Or in the second half of week 4 when the boos finally choke the life out of Cassel...

TEX 09-17-2012 12:30 PM

Bla...bla...bla...I keep hearing year after year that "We have to figure out somehow a way to get better." It's so old...

TEX 09-17-2012 12:30 PM

Bla...bla...bla...I keep hearing year after year that "We have to figure out somehow a way to get better." It's so old...

Bump 09-17-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 8920817)
We might see Quinn next week if things get out of hand. Or in the second half of week 4 when the boos finally choke the life out of Cassel...

As long as Pioli is here, Cassel is our QB. It doesn't matter if he throws 10 interceptions per game, he will still have the job.


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