Chiefs agree to a one-year deal with veteran C/G Russ Hochstein,
 

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl

#Chiefs agree to a one-year deal with veteran C/G Russ Hochstein, per source. Obvious connection there with Pioli and Crennel.

Anybody know anything about this guy?

Before looking it up, I'm guessing former Patriot

Yup. 7 years, 2002-08.

I see our GM is leaving his comfort zone.

I'm good with lilja at center and Allen at LG until Hudson comes back.

The blocking seem to get better after Hudson left. :shrug:

Last three years with the Broncos, too.

From the Wiki:

Professional career

Tampa Bay BuccaneersHochstein was selected by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the fifth round of the 2001 NFL Draft.

New England Patriots

Hochstein signed with the New England Patriots in 2002. He started in 2003 after Damien Woody (who had moved from Center to fill in for the injured Mike Compton) was injured in the first round of the playoffs. After Joe Andruzzi left for Cleveland, Hochstein started the first two games of the 2004 season before filling in at Tight End, Offensive Tackle and Fullback in the remaining regular season games and Super Bowl XXXIX. Hochstein started the final seven games of the 2005 season at center when Dan Koppen was injured and started a career high eight games in 2007 at center and right guard for the New England Patriots. He has remained a special teams contributor and first choice backup interior offensive lineman for the New England Patriots.

Denver Broncos

Hochstein was traded to the Denver Broncos in exchange for a seventh-round selection (which the Patriots had sent with Le Kevin Smith in a prior trade) in the 2010 NFL Draft on August 25, 2009. The move reunited Hochstein with Broncos head coach and former Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels.

Hochstein started 10 of the 15 games in which he played for the Broncos in 2009. He was placed on season-ending injured reserve with a knee injury on December 28. He was re-signed by the Broncos on March 5, 2010.

Arizona Cardinals

On July 26, 2012, Hochstein signed a one-year contract with the Arizona Cardinals.

Have we heard anything about Hudson's injury?

I think we just did.

How ironic that the only decent player those ****ing scumbags have let go recently is the one that blocked the two field goals that kept us from winning the division. 4321

Pioli's like a ****ing 4 year old who won't eat anything but dinosaur chicken nuggets

Don't know if it was due to Hudson leaving or Lilja getting moved from guard. I would like to see Hudson and Allen next to each other at some point

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl
Hochstein gives the Chiefs insurance should Rodney Hudson, Lilja or Asamoah suffer an injury.


EDIT: Guess the guy doesn't know Hudson is already hurt.

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Hudson had his knee iced, IIRC, and wasn't on crutches. So it couldn't have been too terrible.

LMAO

The offense did better without him anyway.

Yeah, I noticed that, too.

Hudson is the center of the future. He needs to be playing, one way or another.

SUPER BOWL!!!

So, who got cut?

Yea, i dunno what it was either.

maybe Lilja's experience led to better Oline calls?

Hudson is the future but it sure seemed better with Lilja/Allen.

there were a couple of plays were i saw Lilja make some pretty good blocks at center too. I didn't look at all of them though.

Reeves to IR

Once again, I am lost amongst the weeds of life.

According to this guy's wiki page thing, he's still active with the Cardinals.

So ... did they cut him? Waive him? How did he happen to be available?

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All I know is he was -6.4 according to PFF vs the 49ers 2 years ago

agreed. I am surprised that we won with a banged up line. Maybe we should keep it.

Not sure. Wikipedia is a website that can be updated by anyone who knows how to use the internet, not exactly a reliable source.

Hochstein is not on the Cardinals roster according to nfl.com.

Looks like they released him when they made their final cuts in pre-season.

this^

IIRC, both his holding penalties were while he was at guard

Pioli is just as bad as Carl when it comes to the good ole boy network it seems. He probably never took the training wheels off his bike when he was a kid in fear of falling.

How much of that was the shitty Saints defense?

It's a guy signed as a precaution. Hopefully he doesn't see the field and will probably be cut when Hudson comes back.

It's too bad Dan Koppen signed with Denver and Casey Weigmann is retired.

Either guy would be a better fit IMO.

well considering that both combinations of players were going up against the same defense, not much.

Shame we didn't get koppen in here when we had a chance.

He was a pile of fail in Tampa.

yep, he sure seems to have a fear of the unknown.
he took the biggest gamble of his GM career when he traded for Cassel and he's gonna sink to the bottom with him.

Weigmann was done in 2010. He's a total liability at this point.

With signing, Pioli's out to prove everyone wrong.

LMAO

Why do you post in a size 2 font?

Pioli trade our first round pick for next year for him?

yea, i thought so i the time too but i just think they already had their backup center in Lilja.

This is just a temp backup for the backup situation.

jfc

Hey! It worked Robert Griffin.

My guess his ego didn't take the negative press about the Patriot Way too well and had to stoke his ego by deliberatly hiring another Ex-Patriot to prove to everyone he is still in charge

Even though I live here I don't pay much attention to them (other than to root against them very vocally). Was he their starting center last year? I read an article that said the donks starting center last year was the worst rated offensive lineman in the NFL (probably read it here).

He was a backup his entire time in Denver. He may have started a little bit in 2009 when McDaniels was experimenting with Beadles at RT.

He's a good depth guy. I think he can play both guard positions and center if need be. We even played him at TE and FB in goal line situations.

I'm wondering if we're better leaving Lilja at center after Hudson comes back and moving Hudson back to guard.

No.

Plus, the Chiefs would be stuck with two second round guards AND Asamoah.

God dammit Pioli! Out of all the great FA linemen, you got the one you had worked with before! How ****ing dare you! You could have had other great centers that are FAs like.... uh...um....

And you gotta buy 'em on double coupon days after the "best used by" date.....ROFL

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Well the point is the line was paper thin to begin with. time for adding quality depth is over. That is a ClearCase of choosing the wrong course of action to begin with. That is the job of the GM.

All we have to do is convince the Patriots to Cut Brady and release Belichick and we could make a playoff run.

More cronyism/"sphere of comfort" decisions from Pioli.

So glad to see they haven't messed with the formula...

Yeah, here's the formula - Kansas City - where New England dumps its trash. 4321

Meh, he's a backup for a week.

For once I'd like to see Pioli grab a backup for a week from New Orleans or San Francisco or the New York Giants or some other team whose coaches/players with whom he has ZERO connections. Just say, "I've never met this guy, but he played for a few years on a Super Bowl team... why the hell not? Bring him in."

Andre Gurode was/is out there available.

I do understand and feel the same way, but I do also understand bringing someone in you are familiar with.

He was signed by the Ravens 3 weeks ago.

That's the saddest shitshow about our method.

Teams only get 53 guys. The great ones consistently let go of solid veterans and promising prospects because they have better options. Those guys can hold a lot of value to other teams who need quick holes filled.

It makes sense to lure away waived players from good teams. ANY good team. But for the Chiefs the only good team they can take guys from is the ****ing Patriots.

Otherwise we can only bring in guys with a direct connection to our head coach's previous team. So, Arizona and Cleveland pretty much.

And before anybody chimes in about Eric Winston, just remember that he's the EXCEPTION, not the rule.

:spock: This happens all the time in the NFL. There's a reason for "Tryout Tuesday". The Chiefs aren't the only team that have brought in players because of injury.

If Hudson's injury is serious, Hochstein will stck with the Chiefs the rest of the year. Having a backup who can play 3 OL positions is huge. I know McDaniels loved Hochstein

So, what you are saying is that instead of signing Hochstein, the chiefs should have signed....?

Has McDaniels loved any player that was good?

Cassel
Tebow
...

I'm with SNR.

I don't mind the signing, and I think it's hilarious that everybody thinks this is a condemning move.

But I probably would have found the best center/guard on a practice squad somewhere and plucked him.

Lonnie Paxton was a decent long snapper I guess.

I think Tom Brady is pretty good at football.

Yeah, that's worked out well so far.

LMAO

Yep. McDaniels is responsible for NE drafting Brady. :rolleyes:

Demaryius Thomas

Anyone NOT from the "Tree".

Pioli continues to prove an he's uncreative, stupid mother****er. **** him with a 12 foot grounding rod.

1) In the middle of the season, you're looking for experienced depth.

2) If you sign a practice squad players, they HAVE to be on the active roster and HAVE to be on the team for at least 3 weeks.

That uncreative, stupid mother****er put an AFC championship game caliber team according to you.

Game?

I think you mean team.

It sure does seem like platonic nepotism when we only bring in guys who have shared history with Dr. Evil. Almost as though there's some secret handshake or ring ceremony or funky dance or something that takes place before you are allowed entrance into our candy-wrapper-free zone of powerful togetherness.

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