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COchief 10-08-2012 08:45 AM

Peter King finally realizes Cassel sucks
 
This is fantastic that a writer with the exposure that King wields finally has called Cassel/Pioli/Romeo out. I didn't think he would ever do it due to his affiliation with Pioli and past worship of "The Patriot Way". I have been emailing him on a weekly basis telling him that Cassel is terrible as I am sure many of you also have, looks like somebody (I am not taking credit, he probably gets thousands) finally got him to pay attention.

Hearing "This is the end" by The Doors in my head and smiling ear-to-ear.

Link:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...k-5/index.html

Excerpts:

5. The story in Kansas City is the treatment of Matt Cassel as much as the play of Matt Cassel. No NFL quarterback is slumping quite as badly as Cassel, who has been rated lower than 84 (which is mediocrity) in all five games of the 1-4 Chiefs start. So when he went down with a concussion, felled by a hard hit from Baltimore defensive tackle Haloti Ngata in the second half Sunday, the Chiefs heard some fans cheering. That prompted this from K.C. right tackle Eric Winston:
"When you cheer someone getting knocked out ... it's sickening. It's 100 percent sickening. I've been in some rough times on some rough teams, and I've never been more embarrassed in my life to play football than in that moment right there ... We're not gladiators. This is not the Roman Coliseum. It is not OK [to cheer a player getting hurt]. It is not OK."
I'm glad to hear a teammate say that instead of robotically saying the fans pay their money and they can do what they want. But as for the football side, Cassel is playing shellshocked right now, and Romeo Crennel should start backup Brady Quinn, who was 3 of 3 in brief duty Sunday, when the Chiefs go to Tampa Bay Sunday. It's much for Cassel's mental as his physical health. The Chiefs need to see if they can get anything going on offense while their season has a glimmer of hope left.

Goats of the Week

Matt Cassel, QB, Kansas City. Thirteen turnovers in the first 19 quarters of the year, and the 13th was clearly the most damaging Sunday against Baltimore. In a 3-3 game in the third quarter, Kansas City had the ball at the Baltimore 1, and Cassel, hurrying to get the ball so he could make a quarterback sneak, mishandled the snap from new center Ryan Lilja. Baltimore recovered, and was up 6-3 five minutes later.
Kansas City was inches from taking its first lead in regulation time of the season, and Cassel coughed it up. You could see on the replay how Cassel misplayed the situation by leaning forward before the ball was snapped. Just a huge error.

h. Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, down 6-3 in the third quarter, with a 3rd-and-12, called a draw play to Jamaal Charles. Guys, if you have zero faith in your quarterback, pull him and play the backup.

Ace Gunner 10-08-2012 08:54 AM

he all but knocked Lilja off the ball and on his face. I bet matty c never touched it.

htismaqe 10-08-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 8991550)
he all but knocked Lilja off the ball and on his face. I bet matty c never touched it.

It hit him the hands, the replay was pretty clear.

BigMeatballDave 10-08-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 8991550)
he all but knocked Lilja off the ball and on his face. I bet matty c never touched it.

He clearly touched it.

100% on Matty.

TEX 10-08-2012 09:14 AM

Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, down 6-3 in the third quarter, with a 3rd-and-12, called a draw play to Jamaal Charles. Guys, if you have zero faith in your quarterback, pull him and play the backup.

Enough Said.

Deberg_1990 10-08-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8991600)
Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, down 6-3 in the third quarter, with a 3rd-and-12, called a draw play to Jamaal Charles. Guys, if you have zero faith in your quarterback, pull him and play the backup.

Enough Said.

Don Pioli hasn't given his blessing yet.
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BigRock 10-08-2012 09:23 AM

So a week ago in that Yahoo article, Pioli shakes the etch-a-sketch and transforms himself into a Cassel-doubter who always knew Matt was a career backup. Plunging his blade right into the backs of Cassel and Romeo in the process.

And now suddenly Peter King is anti-Cassel and criticizes the coaching staff. What a remarkable coincidence.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 09:34 AM

**** Peter King.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...93372267_o.jpg

htismaqe 10-08-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8991616)
So a week ago in that Yahoo article, Pioli shakes the etch-a-sketch and transforms himself into a Cassel-doubter who always knew Matt was a career backup. Plunging his blade right into the backs of Cassel and Romeo in the process.

And now suddenly Peter King is anti-Cassel and criticizes the coaching staff. What a remarkable coincidence.

He got the memo.

FringeNC 10-08-2012 09:41 AM

Can't believe it. Peter King gets it exactly right -- effectively discounts the booing by stating the real issue is Matt's play, which is so bad the coaching staff has no faith in guy.

L.A. Chieffan 10-08-2012 09:45 AM

Pioli planted the seed and now his buddies are starting to run with the whole "it's mental, not physical", thing. That way Pioli can still say "Well, Matt had all the tools that's why I brought him here but you can never tell when it comes to the mental part."

Well played Scott

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 09:49 AM

So a Patriot Way co-conspirator wants to hop on the bandwagon.

Really.

**** off, Fat Peter.

mcaj22 10-08-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 8991550)
he all but knocked Lilja off the ball and on his face. I bet matty c never touched it.

No Ed Reed came out and said he saw that audible coming from a mile away. Reed said its the exact same stuff that Tom Brady does to a T. But in this case it's Matt Cassel not Tom Brady, and Ed Reed was not only able to shoot the right gap but he jumped it. Ed Reed said hes seen that audible a million times playing the Patriots. The Ravens were 110% ready for that sneak. It's the Patriots Way and their schemes being the exact same pieces of shit that ****ed us. Not Ryan Lilja.

htismaqe 10-08-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8991674)
No Ed Reed came out and said he saw that audible coming from a mile away. Reed said its the exact same stuff that Tom Brady does to a T. But in this case it's Matt Cassel not Tom Brady, and Ed Reed was not only able to shoot the right gap but he jumped it. Ed Reed said hes seen that audible a million times playing the Patriots. The Ravens were 110% ready for that sneak. It's the Patriots Way and their schemes being the exact same pieces of shit that ****ed us. Not Ryan Lilja.

****ing brilliant.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8991674)
It's the Patriots Way and their schemes being the exact same pieces of shit that ****ed us. Not Ryan Lilja.

You mean talent trumped The Patriot Way?

I'M SHOCKED.

Ace Gunner 10-08-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8991591)
He clearly touched it.

100% on Matty.

I think you guys misunderstood my point. I'm saying Matt Cassel knocked Lilja over the ball before Lilja could even do the exchange.

Ultra Peanut 10-08-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 8991655)
Pioli planted the seed and now his buddies are starting to run with the whole "it's mental, not physical", thing. That way Pioli can still say "Well, Matt had all the tools that's why I brought him here but you can never tell when it comes to the mental part."

Well played Scott

If he's that smart, why didn't he do that two years ago?

Not saying it's implausible (it's definitely a thing powerful people do when they **** up), just hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh so sick of Cassel.

COchief 10-08-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8991616)
So a week ago in that Yahoo article, Pioli shakes the etch-a-sketch and transforms himself into a Cassel-doubter

I must have somehow missed this, can you provide a link? I searched but couldn't the article.

BigRock 10-08-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8991674)
No Ed Reed came out and said he saw that audible coming from a mile away. Reed said its the exact same stuff that Tom Brady does to a T. But in this case it's Matt Cassel not Tom Brady, and Ed Reed was not only able to shoot the right gap but he jumped it. Ed Reed said hes seen that audible a million times playing the Patriots. The Ravens were 110% ready for that sneak. It's the Patriots Way and their schemes being the exact same pieces of shit that ****ed us. Not Ryan Lilja.

Reed said he recognized the play, but he didn't cause the fumble. He basically said it would have worked, the gap was open to sneak it, and as he came up he saw the ball on the ground.

BigRock 10-08-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 8991870)
I must have somehow missed this, can you provide a link? I searched but couldn't the article.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--we...rting-job.html

"Sources familiar with Pioli's thinking" say why of course Matt's just a backup. Scotty knew that all along.

mcaj22 10-08-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8991901)
Reed said he recognized the play, but he didn't cause the fumble. He basically said it would have worked, the gap was open to sneak it, and as he came up he saw the ball on the ground.

yeah

"I knew it was a quarterback sneak," Reed said. "Me and Ray (Lewis) were yelling at each other, and I saw the ball come out. (The ball) hit his lineman, the center's leg, and I saw it come out."


They have seen it so many times that they were about to shoot that gap and punch him right in the mouth regardless of fumble, no fumble, etc. It's all about the scheme and play calling, and it's so bad that these guys saw it coming from a mile away.

tk13 10-08-2012 11:16 AM

I don't know... most of the time a defense knows a QB sneak is coming. Or is ready for it in that situation. That's probably not a big deal. I'd say the whole omaha thing is probably bigger than that. They need to mix up the audibles and actually fake it every once in a while.
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FringeNC 10-08-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8991915)
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--we...rting-job.html

"Sources familiar with Pioli's thinking" say why of course Matt's just a backup. Scotty knew that all along.

I saw that earlier. Preparing to throw Matt under the bus -- but why not pull Cassel earlier? It's obvious to me that Crennel and Daboll, like Haley, want no part of Matt Cassel. The game-plan yesterday, in my mind, was a big FU from Crennel and Daboll to Pioli. If Pioli knows Cassel is only a backup, why is he still forcing him on those guys? Pioli is one strange dude.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8991932)
The game-plan yesterday, in my mind, was a big FU from Crennel and Daboll to Pioli.

Good.

Divided, they will fall.

BigRock 10-08-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8991932)
If Pioli knows Cassel is only a backup, why is he still forcing him on those guys?

Why not? They're the ones getting blamed for it. Between the Yahoo article and Peter King, there's no mention at all of Pioli's role in this. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! The one who signed Cassel to the big contract and refused to bring in any competition."

The tone is "WTF's with Romeo and Daboll, why don't they bench Cassel already?" Like it's their fault.

Gameplans like Sunday might have been an FU to the old Scott Pioli. But this is the new Pioli, the one who knew all along that Cassel was a career backup. Exposing Cassel doesn't bother him. It just proves him right. He knew it all along. Gosh, what an eye for talent on that portly sumbitch.

Pioli's distancing himself from Cassel. His media pals are framing it where the coaches are to blame for Cassel still starting. It's everybody's fault but Pioli's. And according to Kent Babb, this is exactly the sort of stuff Scott rounds up and pleads his case to Clark with.

The zombie horde is approaching and Pioli's shooting everyone in the leg so that he can get away clean. He's got no loyalty to anyone but himself.

If this was The Sopranos, they'd find him out back by an Arrowhead dumpster with a dead rat in his mouth. Then the camera would zoom in and we'd see it was the same rat that Haley's wife had in her salad.

bishop_74 10-08-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8991932)
I saw that earlier. Preparing to throw Matt under the bus -- but why not pull Cassel earlier? It's obvious to me that Crennel and Daboll, like Haley, want no part of Matt Cassel. The game-plan yesterday, in my mind, was a big FU from Crennel and Daboll to Pioli. If Pioli knows Cassel is only a backup, why is he still forcing him on those guys? Pioli is one strange dude.

OR... just follow me for a sec on this one... OR, perhaps it wasn't a big FU to Pioli, and they just wanted to win the game so they eliminated Cassel from the equation. I would suggest the 3 amigos are far tighter than anyone suspects. Crennel and Dabol knew what was in their chilli before they started eating it.

FringeNC 10-08-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8992081)
Why not? They're the ones getting blamed for it. Between the Yahoo article and Peter King, there's no mention at all of Pioli's role in this. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! The one who signed Cassel to the big contract and refused to bring in any competition."

The tone is "WTF's with Romeo and Daboll, why don't they bench Cassel already?" Like it's their fault.

Gameplans like Sunday might have been an FU to the old Scott Pioli. But this is the new Pioli, the one who knew all along that Cassel was a career backup. Exposing Cassel doesn't bother him. It just proves him right. He knew it all along. Gosh, what an eye for talent on that portly sumbitch.

Pioli's distancing himself from Cassel. His media pals are framing it where the coaches are to blame for Cassel still starting. It's everybody's fault but Pioli's. And according to Kent Babb, this is exactly the sort of stuff Scott rounds up and pleads his case to Clark with.

The zombie horde is approaching and Pioli's shooting everyone in the leg so that he can get away clean. He's got no loyalty to anyone but himself.

If this was The Sopranos, they'd find him out back by an Arrowhead dumpster with a dead rat in his mouth. Then the camera would zoom in and we'd see it was the same rat that Haley's wife had in her salad.

CHunt would have to be one clueless MFer to not hold Pioli accountable for Cassel.

htismaqe 10-08-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishop_74 (Post 8992119)
OR... just follow me for a sec on this one... OR, perhaps it wasn't a big FU to Pioli, and they just wanted to win the game so they eliminated Cassel from the equation. I would suggest the 3 amigos are far tighter than anyone suspects. Crennel and Dabol knew what was in their chilli before they started eating it.

Yep.

BigRock 10-08-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8992128)
CHunt would have to be one clueless MFer to not hold Pioli accountable for Cassel.

I don't think for a second that Clark would buy it, which just makes it all the more delightful to see Pioli revealing his true colors as he desperately flails around to save himself.

BigChiefFan 10-08-2012 12:33 PM

So he pays a back-up, starting QB money and he gets a free pass? I don't think so.

milkman 10-10-2012 07:37 AM

Peter King doesn't realize shit.

Matt Cassel is not slumping right now.

He is playing exactly like he has every damn time he has faced a good team.

This has been a tough schedule to start the season, and Matt Cassel has simply been exposed as the hot garbage that he really is.

Micjones 10-10-2012 08:03 AM

Cassel is definitely slumping. This is the worst he's ever been in Kansas City.

It also doesn't matter that Baltimore saw the sneak coming.
If it had been executed properly we still score there.

Deberg_1990 10-10-2012 08:57 AM

Wonder if this is a CP member?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...uck/index.html



A CHIEFS FAN CHECKS IN ON THE BOOING. "I have been a life-long, die-hard Chiefs fan. On Sunday, I went to my first Chiefs game since the days of Trent Green handing the ball off to Larry Johnson. All my life I have taken pride in hearing about how great Kansas City Chiefs fans are and have been so happy to say that I am a part of that. I was so excited to witness it firsthand at Arrowhead, but what I witnessed at the game on Sunday was embarrassing. I have always liked Matt Cassel as a competitor and a person, even if I did not always like his play. I have become frustrated this year with him, but not to the point I would cheer his injury. Cassel doesn't deserve that.

If you want to be disgusted with anyone, be mad at Scott Pioli for not bringing in a different QB, not a guy who has week in and week out showed the passion of having that arrowhead on the side of his helmet. I was there, and can say that it was not everyone who cheered, but it was enough to leave a sour taste in my mouth. For the first time in my life, I am embarrassed to say that I am a Chiefs fan.''
-- From Justin Wiggins, of Mankato, Minn.

You are not alone, Justin. Thanks for writing.

Deberg_1990 10-10-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8998025)
Peter King doesn't realize shit.

Matt Cassel is not slumping right now.

He is playing exactly like he has every damn time he has faced a good team.

This has been a tough schedule to start the season, and Matt Cassel has simply been exposed as the hot garbage that he really is.

Hes always been mediorce to bad, but his turnovers are extrmemely high. Thats whats killing him. He doesnt have the arm to recover from mistakes.

Sofa King 10-10-2012 09:00 AM

Can you really call it a slump if his whole career has been shitty?

milkman 10-10-2012 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8998185)
Hes always been mediorce to bad, but his turnovers are extrmemely high. Thats whats killing him. He doesnt have the arm to recover from mistakes.

Go look at his game log.

He's always had a propensity to turn the ball over against good teams.

He's just never had a stretch of tough games to match this stretch.

boogblaster 10-10-2012 10:50 AM

well yea ..

beach tribe 10-10-2012 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8991584)
It hit him the hands, the replay was pretty clear.

Yup. And he took off before anyone else moved. It was CLEALY his fault.

lcarus 10-10-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8998025)
Peter King doesn't realize shit.

Matt Cassel is not slumping right now.

He is playing exactly like he has every damn time he has faced a good team.

This has been a tough schedule to start the season, and Matt Cassel has simply been exposed as the hot garbage that he really is.

Don't forget to mention that Cassel is 100% capable of shitting the bed against bad teams as well. I know you already know this, just putting it out there.

RINGLEADER 10-10-2012 11:07 AM

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h. Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, down 6-3 in the third quarter, with a 3rd-and-12, called a draw play to Jamaal Charles. Guys, if you have zero faith in your quarterback, pull him and play the backup.
This is the big one. But that goes back to the coaching. There are so many examples of bad clock management and playing scared coming out of Romeo it is really sad. Punting on 4th and 1 from the opponents 40? Seriously?

Ultra Peanut 10-10-2012 12:48 PM

He's always been ill-composed and bad at playing football, but "slump" is a fair description of this opening stretch of the season. His body language has gone from "oh shit what the **** to I do" to "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA," especially Sunday. It's embarrassing and it makes me feel awful for him (while wishing desperately to never see him play QB for the Chiefs ever again).

The only saving grace he has over Grbac is that he doesn't seem like a total dickhead irl

whoman69 10-10-2012 01:22 PM

Cassel has been, is, and will always be over his head as a starting QB in the NFL. It should have never come to this.

FAX 10-10-2012 01:31 PM

"Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, down 6-3 in the third quarter, with a 3rd-and-12, called a draw play to Jamaal Charles. Guys, if you have zero faith in your quarterback, pull him and play the backup."

Mr. GoChiefs, can you 'gif up' this play? I have to wonder if this wasn't an audible.

FAX


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