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DaneMcCloud 10-11-2012 11:35 AM

Babb on Twitter: Pioli controls game day lineups
 
@kentbabb

Romeo Crennel has found a humane way to bench Matt Cassel without offending Big Brother. KC has probably seen the end of the Cassel era.

Haley battled w/Pioli about Pioli's demand to control gameday lineup. GM wanted to be head coach too. Wonder if Romeo in same boat.


A HC can't succeed if he lacks unquestioned control over game-day moves. Crennel's concussion is unfortunate, but this is RAC's Bastille Day.

Oops a daisy. Meant Cassel's concussion, of course, though Crennel's coaching definitely has led to dizziness and nausea.

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Just more proof that Pioli needs to be shown the door.

L.A. Chieffan 10-11-2012 11:36 AM

You mean Pioli and Haley had disagreement over Cassell? Shocking.

Pioli should be forced to bang his father in law

MIAdragon 10-11-2012 11:39 AM

Polio cant even do his own damn job, its laughable he's trying to coach too.

siberian khatru 10-11-2012 11:39 AM

JFC

the Talking Can 10-11-2012 11:39 AM

wtf?

a gm setting lineups? fire his ass yesterday

King_Chief_Fan 10-11-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9001802)
@kentbabb

Romeo Crennel has found a humane way to bench Matt Cassel without offending Big Brother. KC has probably seen the end of the Cassel era.

Haley battled w/Pioli about Pioli's demand to control gameday lineup. GM wanted to be head coach too. Wonder if Romeo in same boat.

A HC can't succeed if he lacks unquestioned control over game-day moves. Crennel's concussion is unfortunate, but this is RAC's Bastille Day.

Oops a daisy. Meant Cassel's concussion, of course, though Crennel's coaching definitely has led to dizziness and nausea.

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Just more proof that Pioli needs to be shown the door.

oh man, we are the Raiders:banghead:

the Talking Can 10-11-2012 11:40 AM

pioli needs to be picked and taken home by pats fans...please come get your trash

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 11:40 AM

Was there ever any question of this? Come on.

I mean, McCluster, for one...

There was probably a ****ing mandate from Fuhrer Pioli to turn McCluster into a viable slot WR this offseason.

King_Chief_Fan 10-11-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9001808)
You mean Pioli and Haley had disagreement over Cassell? Shocking.

Pioli should be forced to bang his father in law

he already does

siberian khatru 10-11-2012 11:41 AM

"Oh yeah? I'll show you that Belichick didn't do SHIT to get the Pats to the Super Bowl!"

Rasputin 10-11-2012 11:41 AM

Clark needs to save face and fire Pioli like last year. This is getting obese with failure of a GM.

Easy 6 10-11-2012 11:42 AM

Even Jerruh Jones doesnt try to control game day starters.

Mr. Flopnuts 10-11-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9001818)
Was there ever any question of this? Come on.

I mean, McCluster, for one...

There was probably a ****ing mandate from Fuhrer Pioli to turn McCluster into a viable slot WR this offseason.

Seriously. This has been obvious for awhile. I mentioned in another thread he was gonna actually call the plays Sunday. I figured we all knew he was dictating who was on the field. Why else would Todd Haley pull that shit last year?

qabbaan 10-11-2012 11:45 AM

Pretty obvious that Crennel is a stooge.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 11:46 AM

Steve Breaston is a better NFL player than Dexter McCluster or Jon Baldwin are or will ever be...but he's been effectively rendered useless because he was basically a Haley guy.

Scott Pioli sucks donkey cocks.

kaplin42 10-11-2012 11:46 AM

If this is true, then I think we as a whole need to rethink our evaluations on coaches like Haley and RAC. If Pioli is so hamstringing his team this way, they he truly is the problem and should be let go this second.

What a fail of a GM. I'm really having a hard time understanding how someone can be in the position they are in, and be that F'ing stupid.

KCUnited 10-11-2012 11:46 AM

This is for the "I'll be ok with Pioli if he gets us a 1st round qb" crowd. This guy is a cancer.

mr. tegu 10-11-2012 11:46 AM

More evidence for my view that Cassel, though he got roughed up, is taking one for the team and basically saying, I can't start here anymore.

DaneMcCloud 10-11-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaplin42 (Post 9001838)
If this is true, then I think we as a whole need to rethink our evaluations on coaches like Haley and RAC. If Pioli is so hamstringing his team this way, they he truly is the problem and should be let go this second.

I think you're right.

It's quite possible that Todd Haley was "Crazy Like a Fox" last season.

lcarus 10-11-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9001814)
wtf?

a gm setting lineups? fire his ass yesterday

I figured Pioli was setting the lineup a couple years ago. I agree. Fire him.

bevischief 10-11-2012 11:48 AM

Take the garbage out Clark.

Ghost of Maslowski 10-11-2012 11:49 AM

"KC has probably seen the end of the Cassel era".

This won't really matter as much as it should, if the guy responsible for the Cassel era remains in power.

lcarus 10-11-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9001840)
This is for the "I'll be ok with Pioli if he gets us a 1st round qb" crowd. This guy is a cancer.

I sure as shit don't want Pioli selecting our QB. He'd pass up a Geno for a boy scout game manager QB.

lcarus 10-11-2012 11:50 AM

...assuming Pioli drafts a first round QB in the first place might be assuming too much

Omaha 10-11-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9001840)
This is for the "I'll be ok with Pioli if he gets us a 1st round qb" crowd. This guy is a cancer.

...and he's fat. /Omaha

Micjones 10-11-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9001836)
Steve Breaston is a better NFL player than Dexter McCluster or Jon Baldwin are or will ever be...but he's been effectively rendered useless because he was basically a Haley guy.

Scott Pioli sucks donkey cocks.

Four catches in five games.
It's like they have it in for the guy.

He was a productive WR just last year.

CoMoChief 10-11-2012 11:52 AM

I knew the concussion was a fluke.

But how does Babb know this?

Sofa King 10-11-2012 11:54 AM

Well, it looks like we'll have to double our Fire Pioli banners.

Reaper16 10-11-2012 11:54 AM

Hilarious that anyone could blame Haley for the team's problems.

Molitoth 10-11-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9001858)
Four catches in five games.
It's like they have it in for the guy.

He was a productive WR just last year.

The majority of Cassel's main reads are Bowe. The shithead never throws anywhere else except to McCluster.

The Franchise 10-11-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9001821)
"Oh yeah? I'll show you that Belichick didn't do SHIT to get the Pats to the Super Bowl!"

I honestly think it's this. He's trying like hell to prove that it was him and not Bill that engineered those Patriot teams. That's why he's refusing to fail any of his decisions.....Cassel....McCluster...Jackson.

The dude's ego is so big that he's effectively ****ing this entire franchise to prove that he's good at his job.

Jenson71 10-11-2012 11:56 AM

****ing clown show

Deberg_1990 10-11-2012 11:57 AM

Id like to see Pioli get a head coaching gig someday…

qabbaan 10-11-2012 11:57 AM

So who was picking Palko?

teedubya 10-11-2012 11:57 AM

JFC. If Pioli is extended we are ****ed.

DeezNutz 10-11-2012 11:59 AM

I assumed that Pioli was demanding that Cassel play, but if this extends to the entire roster...wow.

Easily the worst GM in the league, perhaps league history, and many of us would owe Haley an apology of some sort.

Dave Lane 10-11-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9001832)
Seriously. This has been obvious for awhile. I mentioned in another thread he was gonna actually call the plays Sunday. I figured we all knew he was dictating who was on the field. Why else would Todd Haley pull that shit last year?

I hope Haley left him a Cleveland Steamer on his desk on the way out the door. ****ing piece of shit.

T-post Tom 10-11-2012 12:00 PM

But wait...I thought Palko was Haley giving Pioli the finger. So Palko was Pioli's choice?

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9001802)
@kentbabb

Romeo Crennel has found a humane way to bench Matt Cassel without offending Big Brother. KC has probably seen the end of the Cassel era.

Haley battled w/Pioli about Pioli's demand to control gameday lineup. GM wanted to be head coach too. Wonder if Romeo in same boat.


A HC can't succeed if he lacks unquestioned control over game-day moves. Crennel's concussion is unfortunate, but this is RAC's Bastille Day.

Oops a daisy. Meant Cassel's concussion, of course, though Crennel's coaching definitely has led to dizziness and nausea.

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Just more proof that Pioli needs to be shown the door.

proof ... i see no proof?

i see a member of the media who hates the 'cone of silences' taking his shot.

where's the proof?

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 9001886)
But wait...I thought Palko was Haley giving Pioli the finger. So Palko was Pioli's choice?

It's quite clear Pioli gives no ****s about the backup quarterback position on this team.

Dave Lane 10-11-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 9001880)
So who was picking Palko?

Pioli is known to have told numerous people no way Stanzi plays 1st year. Which leaves?

Rasputin 10-11-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 9001880)
So who was picking Palko?

Good question. This whole franchise has been a lie with Pioli. Can't believe anything. Maybe it was Pisoli who made Haley bring out Palko and he did that to get him fired? What the hell is going on here? More conspiracy to ponder.

Easy 6 10-11-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9001890)
proof ... i see no proof?

i see a member of the media who hates the 'cone of silences' taking his shot.

where's the proof?

But is it really that hard to believe?

Add in the fact that a guy like Blabb is privy to a lot of insider talk & it seems very likely.

Dave Lane 10-11-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9001890)
proof ... i see no proof?

i see a member of the media who hates the 'cone of silences' taking his shot.

where's the proof?

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and shits like a duck, guess what it probably is a duck. This is just confirmation

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9001897)
Pioli is known to have told numerous people no way Stanzi plays 1st year. Which leaves?

link?

Rasputin 10-11-2012 12:05 PM

Palko starts the Bears game. Orton comes in for one play and hurts himself so Palko goes back in. So Haley was going to go with Orton from there. Must have been Pioli telling Haley to start Palko. **** this guy.

Chiefnj2 10-11-2012 12:06 PM

None of this leaked out in the middle of the Haley/Pioli feud?

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9001902)
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and shits like a duck, guess what it probably is a duck. This is just confirmation

again ... i see no confirmation.

I don't even see Babb claiming an anonymous source.

I see a media member, who moved to washington, talking shit.

:shrug:

T-post Tom 10-11-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9001896)
It's quite clear Pioli gives no ****s about the backup quarterback position on this team.

So he only intervenes on Cassel's behalf? If Cassel's out, then he lets the HC run the show? WTH? Has Cassel got nauhty pics of Scott doing bad things?

DeezNutz 10-11-2012 12:07 PM

Babb's source is almost certainly Haley, since the two were pretty close, apparently.

Rasputin 10-11-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9001908)
None of this leaked out in the middle of the Haley/Pioli feud?

Didn't Haley have a clause in his contract that he couldn't talk about anything or he would have to fork over $$$$?

DaneMcCloud 10-11-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9001890)
proof ... i see no proof?

i see a member of the media who hates the 'cone of silences' taking his shot.

where's the proof?

You're right, of course.

A respected journalist from the Kansas City Star, now with the Washington Post, is surely lying.

Just like Whitlock was lying in his "Egoli" column.

They're liars. All of them.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 12:11 PM

LMAO

The sheer separation, BY YEARS, between the criticism levied upon Pioli by Whitlock and Babb makes it almost impossible that it's not true.

The man is a ****ing waste of skin. He should be an offensive line coach or something, since that's the only above average part of the team he's assembled.

He's a fat, bald, insecure prick.

DeezNutz 10-11-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9001921)
Just like Whitlock was lying in his "Egoli" column.

They're liars. All of them.

He's just butt hurt over the lack of access. /CP '09

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9001921)
You're right, of course.

A respected journalist from the Kansas City Star, now with the Washington Post, is surely lying.

Just like Whitlock was lying in his "Egoli" column.

They're liars. All of them.

he is safe in washington.

if he had any credible proof he would absolutely bury Pioli and make his name nationality.

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9001926)
He's just butt hurt over the lack of access. /CP '09

Do you believe for a second that Babb wouldn't bury Pioli if he had any real proof?

DaneMcCloud 10-11-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9001927)
he is safe in washington.

if he had any credible proof he would absolutely bury Pioli and make his name nationality.

Right.

And no one reads or respects the Washington Post as one of the nation's best newspapers, if not the best.

KCUnited 10-11-2012 12:13 PM

I know if I had some information and wanted to stay anonymous I'd give it to the guy who had revealed his sources in the past.

DeezNutz 10-11-2012 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9001930)
Do you believe for a second that Babb wouldn't bury Pioli if he had any real proof?

I don't think he can because Haley is the source. Thus, he would be collateral damage because of the good-old-boy network in the league, hell present in all pro sports.

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9001931)
Right.

And no one reads or respects the Washington Post as one of the nation's best newspapers, if not the best.

He might as well work for Phobia.

what are you talking about?

You think Babb is worried about Pioli getting him fired from the Washington Post?

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9001936)
I don't think he can because Haley is the source. Thus, he would be collateral damage because of the good-old-boy network in the league, hell present in all pro sports.

You mean the same Haley that claimed Pioli was bugging his phone but then didn't send Pioli to federal prison for it?

DaneMcCloud 10-11-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9001930)
Do you believe for a second that Babb wouldn't bury Pioli if he had any real proof?

Yes, and I believe he's doing just that: Burying Pioli.

First off, no one knows the terms of Haley's dismissal. There clearly wasn't a non-compete clause because he was hired by the Steelers. But most likely, there was a clause in which Haley was "silenced" for a period of time after his dismissal.

For whatever reason, whether that clause is due to end sometime soon, or Babb and Haley got together, in which Haley said "**** it, let 'em sue me!", there has been more information slowly coming out of One Arrowhead Drive than the last 4 years combined.

Insinuating that Kent Babb is lying is ludicrous. The man is employed by the Washington Post. Journalistic integrity is required or the man won't work in that field, ever again.

Do you truly think that Kent Babb would take that risk?

Dave Lane 10-11-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9001890)
proof ... i see no proof?

i see a member of the media who hates the 'cone of silences' taking his shot.

where's the proof?

Laz is the new black...











Bob that is.

beach tribe 10-11-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaplin42 (Post 9001838)
If this is true, then I think we as a whole need to rethink our evaluations on coaches like Haley and RAC. If Pioli is so hamstringing his team this way, they he truly is the problem and should be let go this second.

What a fail of a GM. I'm really having a hard time understanding how someone can be in the position they are in, and be that F'ing stupid.

I never though Haley was the problem and actually wish he was still our coach, it's obvious that the bone headed shit he did was a big FU to Pioli, and nothing more. I would even bet that Weis left because of Pioli as much as Haley if not more, seeing how Pioli wouldn't have let Weis move on from Cassl.

T-post Tom 10-11-2012 12:18 PM

Babb "wonders" if Crennel is in the same boat.

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9001944)
Laz is the new black...

Bob that is.

why ... because i ask for ANY semblance of proof for wild claims?

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

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Kent Babb
Quote:

I don't know it's that way w/RAC and Pioli, but it'd make sense. That's why I said "I wonder." I do know it occurred w Haley/Pioli.

translation ... Haley bitched to the media and now Babb is insinuating that it's truth and 'wondering' if its the same with Crennel.



Mr. Flopnuts 10-11-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9001883)
I assumed that Pioli was demanding that Cassel play, but if this extends to the entire roster...wow.

Easily the worst GM in the league, perhaps league history, and many of us would owe Haley an apology of some sort.

McCluster over Breaston? No ****ing way.

Dave Lane 10-11-2012 12:20 PM

Crennel should change his name to Pinocchio

The Franchise 10-11-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9001951)
Kent Babb<s style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(187, 187, 187); ">@</s>kentbabb
I don't know it's that way w/RAC and Pioli, but it'd make sense. That's why I said "I wonder." I do know it occurred w Haley/Pioli.

And that makes perfect sense. Pioli forced that shit on Haley. The only reason it's different with Crennel is because Crennel is a ****ing yes man. He's just happy to have a ****ing job. He'll do whatever Pioli says.

Rasputin 10-11-2012 12:23 PM

True or not doesn't matter to me. What matters is Pioli is an embarrassment to this establisment and community. This just shows more of that even if it's just percieved as true the idea that this is plausible is another mark against Pioli. Pioli has absolute NO credibity left to his name in Kansas City. We fans are insulted time and time again by his arrogance. He needs to be removed ASAP. This isn't funny Pioli has been a disgrace to our Chiefs and to the fans to have to put up with him anymore.

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9001956)
And that makes perfect sense. Pioli forced that shit on Haley. The only reason it's different with Crennel is because Crennel is a ****ing yes man. He's just happy to have a ****ing job. He'll do whatever Pioli says.

could be true ... if you believe an insane ex-employee with an ax to grind that has already lied about illegal wire-tapping.

Ghost of Maslowski 10-11-2012 12:26 PM

the best proof that Babb is correct is inexplicably still wearing #7 for the Chiefs.

Molitoth 10-11-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

already lied about illegal wire-tapping.
I haven't followed up on that story. So it was proven that this story was all a lie?

BigMeatballDave 10-11-2012 12:27 PM

Laz still loves him some Scott Pioli.

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost of Maslowski (Post 9001961)
the best proof that Babb is correct is inexplicably still wearing #7 for the Chiefs.

That's just proves stupidity, not the rest of this fairy tale.

again ... give me any semblance of truth and i'm on board.



but Haley is not even close be being credible

Mr. Laz 10-11-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9001964)
Laz still loves him some Scott Pioli.

and Dave still believes whatever makes him happy ... proof be dammed.

Chiefnj2 10-11-2012 12:30 PM

Thanks for update from 12 months ago Babb. How does season 1 of Homeland end?

qabbaan 10-11-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9001921)
You're right, of course.

A respected journalist from the Kansas City Star, now with the Washington Post, is surely lying.

Just like Whitlock was lying in his "Egoli" column.

They're liars. All of them.

Laz loves Pioli and defends him like a jealous lover

BigRock 10-11-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9001959)
could be true ... if you believe an insane ex-employee with an ax to grind that has already lied about illegal wire-tapping.

Why are you so insistent that the story came from Haley? If the head coach and GM were bickering over the gameday roster, other people would know. Like, say, the position coaches who wondered why the guy they thought should be playing wasn't.

And Haley suspecting his phone was bugged is not a "lie". It's also too often forgotten that Haley was not the only former Chiefs employee who suspected that he was being monitored. He was just the most notable one.


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